@@siddharthghosh1406You know Siddharth I really love Goldberg. I really do. Cause he never cheated. He always fought by his own. Helped others. He was undefeated and he is still the undisputed. Now you tell me, Am I wrong?
It should’ve been DDP. Sting was already established. Plus, the fans could believe that Sting could be a guy that could beat Goldberg. Let DDP be beat, dogged out, speared once, fights to his feet, drunkardly staggering ....is waving, “cmon!” Goldberg goes for another spear, misses! DDP falls from exhaustion, fights to his feet, DDP goes for the diamond cutter, Goldberg pushes him to the ropes, Goldberg hits the other ropes....spear! Both guys are laid out, Goldberg gets to his feet, does his jump with the neck slash, goes for the jackhammer, DDP reverses, DIAMOND CUTTER! Crowd goes BANANA 1...2.....3! New world champion DDP. You play him up as an underdog Rocky, specifially considering he was “The Peoples Champ.”
Wasn't that the mainevent that had to be shown on Nitro because the PPV cut out before it began? Such a good match and WCW found away to screw it up so many ways...DDP winning would have been huge.
I agree that with that wholeheartedly. That diamond cutter was RIGHT THERE. I mean Jesus. Jesus!!! It’s completely amazing how they couldn’t just audible. 😑
If Nash had a third quad he'd have 3 more times more money then anyone who gives him shit about his career. He already has twice the money, so keep on wishing him to have more. I love wrestling. I love the craft. But I'd rather have millions in my bank account after it all and everyone not respect me then have nothing in the bank and be more athletic.
I was at the MGM in Vegas for DDP vs Goldberg at Halloween Havoc and holy shit was it deafening! The crowd really wanted DDP to end it, and that would have taken WCW in a whole different direction.
DDP was the most over single wrestler in WCW for 1998. Wolfpack was cool, but as a group. Sad WCW,didn't know how to move on to a new era pushing new stars. Instead of Goldberg and DDP, they went back to Hogan and Flair.
I agree. Goldberg is a total mark. If you’re only over because you win then you’re not a good pro wrestler. The taser was to protect Goldberg in his loss and they could have built to a big a Hogan vs Goldberg rematch but wcw was incompetent
ImtheONE why would he brag about booking himself to end the streak? It’s scripted and Nash had sway. there’s no bragging rights about Nash billing himself to end the streak. In retrospect it was the wrong call.
Yeah, some fans were chanting “Goldberg sucks!” because Goldberg had heat with the NWO fans. It wasn’t go-away-heat. It was just regular old heat. They cheered against the guy they didn’t like, but it wasn’t like those fans were about to stop watching because of the streak.
People don't seem to realize that the nWo Hollywood and nWo Wolfpack had fairly rabid fan bases with WCW. Nash was the leader of Wolfpack. Of course, guys in black/red are going to chant Goldberg sucks.
Even Hogan said recently that Nash and Hall at their NWO peak complained about only wanting "to talk" and not wrestle. He said they would purposefully leave their gear at home. Hall had all the tools, and Nash had the great size, but they spent most of their careers coasting and drawing massive pay to do it.
I would just like to ask: If you felt that strongly about it Big Kev, why didn't you have Goldberg lose the strap clean to DDP at Halloween Havoc just a few months prior? NO ONE in the business was as over as DDP was at the time, not you, not Scott, not Goldberg, not anyone from New York, and no one would have thought that the streak ending at that time was terrible booking. The taser + the FPoD were instrumental to turning people off from the WCW product.
Cizzymac it doesnt matter how over ddp was..its unbelieveable for him to beat goldberg physically in a match...fuck the fans..and goldburg was atleast as over as he..its a no brainer..ddp diditn have the size and the physical build to defeat goldberg cleanly..only steiner had it at the time but it would break the goldberg char, thats why goldberg has never in his career been cleanly beaten..because it would defeat his whole purpose of unfuckwitability..bury it..
Cizzymac Because a clean loss would have hurt Goldberg more. The only way Goldberg could have lost and still be seen as he was, was by a dirty finish. Fucks sake man, if you're going to arm chair book at least don't have your mark showing.
i seem to remember a nitro when nash got in goldbergs face and screamed at him "you may have 173 wins but you got 1 loss and you're looking at it''..........
if they felt like they had to beat goldberg, I wish they just beat him clean and let kevin have a run as a babyface with the wolfpac, the fingerpoke was the turning point for me and a whole bunch of other people who gave up on the product.
Listening to Nash here he sounds like a real selfish jerk! Talking fans booing Goldberg. I don't know who gave Nash the idea that the fans like him alot. Mr tearquad!
to be fair all top guys are selfish jerks to one degree or another. I think they took for granted that wcw wasn't a guaranteed thing after Turner lost power of his own company.
I remember thinking someone had to end the streak they couldn,t keep counting wins forever , Nash was one of the few believable enough on the roster to do it, the finger poke the next night is what made it all a debacle.
@@ac8274 Yeah it worked so well that it killed the company and none of them were a big draw ever again. Honestly what the fuck were you thinking when you typed that comment?
NWO era Nash always booked himself to beat everyone then calls anyone who disagrees a mark. Also, in what universe was Nash ever a baby face on the level of Goldberg?
The fact that Nash is still so sensitive about the topic over a decade later implies to me that he knows he done f****d up with that decision, but he still can't completely swallow his ego and admit it.
Daniel Ryan Here's my two cents: I think Nash could have been the right guy to end the streak, it just wasn't time to do that. I like Nash a lot, and I think if they had built a proper feud between he and Goldberg (think the buildup for Hogan/Sting, another epic fuckup on WCW's part), it could have been one of the biggest matches of all time. The problem there was Goldberg was still hot, and they needed all the help they could get because they were starting to regularly lose in the ratings to WWF. Had they had Nash chase Goldberg and the title for a couple of months, have him lose to Bill at Starrcade, lose again at Spring Stampede and finally win at Bash at the Beach it could have been the stuff of legend. The problem was they were already starting to fall apart, and because of the awful backstage politics at WCW no one could really think past themselves and do what was best for the company. I also think you're right, he knows he screwed up and he realizes everyone else knows it too. That's why he gets so defensive about it. It's got to be hard to realize you're one of the nails in the coffin of your own company and live with that every day.
I am absolutely not a fan of Goldberg but when you're asking, "Who was hotter/ more popular/ who did the fans want to see" the answer to that can be found in who out butts in the seats. Who were the fans coming to see?
Sykopath BnG More to do with Goldberg and his stupid gimmick and streak to begin with rather than his streak ended... It should never have started to begin with.
+Tellthatruth The problem was that Goldberg was their last real major draw. At that point the NWO was done, as was wolf pack and hollywood. The Outsiders were undone because of Halls drinking, the Steiners were broken up (and having two real life brothers feud like that was stupid), Sting had been ruined by Starrcade '97, they axed the Goldberg/Jericho program, Rey and Juvie were dead in the water, Ultimo had wrecked his arm, they had completely mistreated the four horsemen, the list goes on and on. The fact was that WCW just didn't really have any major draws at that point and Goldberg was really all they had left. Had they ended the streak properly, it could have been the stuff of legend and would have helped propel the company into the next year.
WCW had a lot of missed chances, they should have had DDP beat Goldberg. It would have felt right, it wouldn't have hurt Goldberg's image at all and would have continued DDP's reign as a people's champ...
First of all, I think Goldberg should not have won the title form Hogan on a Monday Nitro. I think they should have had the NWO jump Goldberg and there be no match. Then Goldberg chase Hogan and run the gauntlet on the NWO while finally meeting Hogan at Starcade. Goldberg took the belt from Hogan in July. That would have been an awesome storyline.
Actually, I think a new champion should have ended Goldberg's streak, had it been done right. Build up Booker T and then do it in a huge feud. Unfortunately, by the time the streak ended it was all going down hill. To think Nash's title run after ending the streak ended with "the finger poke of doom" is pathetic.
Yeah, WCW did a lot of dumb shit during this time period--instead of putting the belt on DDP when he was red hot, they waited until he started getting booed and had him pin Flair at the rather shitty Spring Stampede '99. But--even with all their faults--I think I'd rather have clusterfuck Nitro compared to today's worthless "Monday Night Boredom,"....
Defiantone, are you saying that Nash, one of the very most most over, and biggest stars in WCW history, is not actually a legend? lol Some you new age marks should stop reading Meltzer's crap and lies, and watch wrestling from back than, to get a proper perspective, of what actually happened in the business back than.
Lakers fan, he had no charisma? He was one of the best guy's on the mike... As for no skill, what are you referring to? Using many fake moves and high spots in a fake match? He's a big man wrestler, that wrestled like a big man should.
@@AlexHellene that mark just wants to watch 5’10 fanboys turned wrestlers to do high spots in a bingo hall for a hotdog & a handshake. he don’t understand real pro wrestling & the glory days lol. & i’m not even a Nash fan but Nash was definitely over & a legend
The ONLY reason that Kevin Nash has a win over Goldberg, was because of outside interference from Scott Hall! Kevin Nash even said he didn't know that Scott was going to interfere in his match against Goldberg... which was an out-and-out lie! Kevin oughta be put on a Lie-Detector test in front of the entire World, and then let's see what he says!
If anything Goldberg is perfectly designed to destroy big stiff idiots...I think the more believable angle would be a smaller faster guy with super smart ring IQ and craft...
@@Roby-yx3jt Nash had a bad wheel and still had great matches throughout his career, he’s the best big man in the biz, I like Taker but Kev had more of an impact with Nwo.
@@jonathanramos5171 Yeah, I think this is pretty indisputable. Those Wolfpac shirts were everywhere. Shit, even kids in my school would go out and have their mom buy them the same FUBU shirt that Nash wore on Nitro the night before.
I don't know why Goldberg gets all the hate these days. That dude used to be the Stone Cold of WCW, and I loved him. His matches were very explosive and he was badass in every sense of the word.
+redroversk Yeah! He was just spear, jackhammer, 1,2,3 all the time. His enterances from the dressing room to the ring were longer than his matches. I loved when Nash and Hall finally took him out lol
+Coma Black Well he was made to be a powerhouse. Press Slams, Pump Handle Suplexes. O Soto Gaeshi's, Super Kick of Concussion, then the Spear & Jackhammer. That's all he needed. That was more moves than John Cena & Hulk Hogan
In response to what Nash says at 0:25, I actually recall he did a promo where he says something like "you may have a hundred and something wins but baby ya got one loss, and you're looking at it!"
Goldberg was just a modern day ultimate warrior. Cool entrance, big muscles and a limited move set. William regal embarrassed him way more than Kevin Nash.
signerleo snyder You know those letters, arrange them in a way that makes actual words so we know what you're saying, don't just bang the keyboard with your head.
Nate S Goldberg was never a modern day Ultimate Warrior, Warrior made shitloads more money than Goldberg & had a much bigger fan base & believe it or not Warrior was in the business alot longer...Yeah they were big guys, but i'd prolly put Goldberg as wcw's version of a Stone Cold lookalike but were nothing alike.
Regardless of what Kevin Nash has done his drawing power would never be anywhere near the level of what Goldberg did him breaking the streak was a terrible business decision.
@@danielsan8310 Watch the crowd’s reaction to WCW two years later, oh wait… The crowd was going to pop for literally anyone who broke Goldberg’s streak, it was the streak breaking that caused the pop, not Nash winning.
Nash knew that Goldberg wanted to be a positive role model, and what better position to do that from than as World Heavyweight Champion? So whatever he says, I'm sure that pissing Goldberg off was one of his objectives.
lmao when he says "Go to Salisbury. Watch that tape where he puts his hand through the fucking deal" it sounds exactly like Walter from The Big Lebowski.
Kevin Nash is the result of the Dude, Walter and Julianne Moore's character having a threesome and they all end up on Maury trying to find out who the father is.
+zegaboy098 going out on a limb here .. can we also agree that in this clip he is admitting he booked himself to beat Goldberg? I got marks arguing w me and I feel like a mark now. fuck man first ten seconds of this clip listen, Nash says it not me
Personally as a kid, I was waiting for the Stinger to take the strap from him. I honestly thought that it would go to Stinger or Dallas Paige, but that's WCW for ya.
Nash is given the book and the first thing he does is make himself world champion. Shocker. Nash was selfish no doubt, but he shouldn't have been given that kind of power in the first place.
Yo I was always a diesel fan. But DDP should have ended Goldberg's streak if they were gonna end it. The energy with that diamond cutter was wayyy better than the match w Nash. DDP was more of a WCW guy anyway, could have been the face for a good amount of time. Nash goes and loses to Macho Man? Another WWF guy.
People think Nash's ego lead to him booking himself to beat The Man, but I remember those days and going to a WCW show I think in Nc and yeah they were chanting Goldberg sucks, loudly
+Eric Frost DUDE IKR?????, I Live in Miami FL & when WCW came here in 1999 they were shouting "GOLDBERG SUX!!!" at the top of their voices, people don't understand how true that is!, Goldberg was starting to REALLY get hated.
True but it's the same dynamic the fans don't want to see a unbeatable champion there's no excitement in that if you know how the match will end what's the point of buying a ppv if you know the champ is always going to win and retain
+Eric Frost I like the way Nash described it, they turned Goldberg into the NY Yankees and a lot of people (myself included) got tired of it. I think Nash was the right guy to beat Goldberg (you needed somebody big and powerful, also a solid technical wrestler and Nash fit the bill) but it was the wrong time. They needed to have an actual feud leading up to Nash beating Goldberg (think Mankind/Rock or Austin/Michaels) and actually have Nash lose one or two times before beating Goldberg. That could have been epic. You have Nash lose a very tough match at Starrcade, then again at Spring Stampede (but make it even closer) and finally have Nash take the belt at Bash at the Beach (where some of their biggest moments were). Have him do what Stone Cold did with Big Show, have him execute multiple finishers on Goldberg before he finally wears him down enough to beat him. Think 5-6 powerbombs before Goldberg succumbs. Something along those lines could have been a classic.
***** I'm not 100% sure that you're right about DDP being the right guy to end the streak but I love your insult for Kevin Nash. Instant classic with two thumbs up!
I thought Nash said in other podcast that he didn't take the Book until February 1999 and the first thing he did was book Rey Mysterio to defeat him on Nitro.
Hey Cory, obviously while giving you that bogan name your mother also dropped you on your head. Re-read the garbage you just typed then delete it. Goon
Only too convenient for Nash to book himself to end Goldberg's streak as soon as he was given booking power. As much as I loved the very early NWO phase (the original Outsiders), WCW went to sh*t soon after when not knowing where to take the angle. Russo basically killed the whole thing.
Bischoff went through what tony khan is right now. The guys he hired are being nice and including him as a peer. Thats what killed wrestling. The guy running the show cant be buddies with the talent.
At that time Nash was leader of the nWo Wolfpac which had Luger, Savage, Sting, and Konnan in it and they were by far the most popular group in WCW so it made sense for Nash to beat Goldberg at the time since the nWo Wolfpac was the hottest thing going at the time.
@@chadzard4 Literally the next night he was a heel. And him fighting dirty should have been FORESHADOWING. A little knowledge about storytelling would have made all this obvious.
No he wasn't hot as Goldberg ! Goldberg has never been forgotten . Sorry Kevin ! Goldberg was that monster everyone waited on for years ! Who in history was as devastating as Goldberg ? Beating him was the worse decision WCW made ! They should've went with Goldberg until the wheels fell off ! Egos are something else but egos didn't improve ratings ! Goldberg did !
Goldberg was amazing. You watched wrestling just to see the spear and jackhammer. Goldberg was the clear superior athlete surrounded by a bunch of half-ass bodybuilders. What made him unique was that he DIDN'T speak. He just handled his biz
This is a bit of revisionist history. Yes Goldberg was the #1 guy in the company, but Nash was over as hell with the Wolfpack and a credible enough opponent to end the streak and he didn't do it cleanly. And there was indeed a significant portion of the WCW crowd that was getting bored with Goldberg as champion squashing everybody. Hence the "Goldberg Sucks" chants. Everything after Starrcade was a shit show tho.
Mick Thomassen How many times Warrior did something even close to being as impressive as Goldberg’s power maneuvers? Or was his splash (splash, man...) as good as Bill’s Spear and Jackhammer, especially on guys like the Giant?
The 1 thing that WCW had over WWF was the Goldberg streak that everyone switch the channel from WWF to see WCW. And Nash messed it up for the company. That was like when WWF had the Undertaker's streak over WCW in Wrestle mania. But Wrestle Mania had the Undertaker's match once a year. WWF dominated the ratings once a year, and Goldberg could have helped compete with the ratings weekly with his streak. Horrible move by WCW to allow this during the Monday night Wars competition.
Well Nash did say that he was the guy that stopped the streak multiple times over the years on Nitro. But I assume he is talking about behind the scenes where he never bragged.
@@emoboi311 lol all 3 of them used the same theme with very little difference, again their supposed to be instantly recognizable and cause excitement not confusion
@@GodyP Undertaker and Kane are far better in-ring big size workers, who are more entertaining to watch, while not being overrated. Far better than Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.
