Khedoori’s height drops explained [Capstone Australia analysis 1] 

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@Flipssss Yeah but you can't really dissipate ALL of the impact, only mitigate it. I'd like to know how bones and joints hold up to this kind of movement over time. Still this video is super useful as it is showing how to handle these forces in the extreme. Not everyone wants to take huge drops, but that doesn't make the knowledge of good technique less beneficial.

ya you still have to learn the movements like everyone else. i am not sure what you are getting at with the "perfect repetition" thing, some people need those slow reps doing things like walking or standing with good body mechanics(me), if they hope to do it them during a jump or a landing. also correct me if im wrong but you seem to be implying there is no such thing as optimal mechanics for things such running for example, but i would hate to attacks such a weak argument so please.

@@joeyshouse6405 Cheers Joey, I definitely agree that there is better form and worse form. But how we go about deciding what is better and what is worse form is a big question - one that it is tough to find a valid answer to that holds up over time. We could try to measure torque detected at an arthrokinematic level and say high forces of torque are not good. But that doesn’t say anything about the athletes ability to solve a movement problem yet - so we’re probably looking for low torque + improvement in efficiency towards the goal. But that is for the short term motor coordination - how about long term adaptations in the right direction? We would need to include some level of understanding of optimal flexibility + optimal strength for all muscles groups, then detect if there is a specific weakness and after that include arthrokinematic values and performance measures in our chart towards finding ‘optimal form’. Now we run into the next problem: It would need a person, who knows all these details about someone else, including things that are impossible to detect without MRI like femoral angle of torsion that will have a direct influence on proper mechanics for the individual. Let’s say we have this enlightened practitioner who facilitates test after test to finally understand what exactly would make the athlete a better athlete - then the question is, does that practitioner also know which parts need to be addressed first? The body is a complex system and changing any one part of its system is going to affect others. Where do you start? At the level of the feet because these are the first points of contact in running sports? Or at the level of the hip because most force gets generated there? Or should it be the core - after all if the core isn’t working properly force doesn’t get transferred from the arms to the ground and a huge part of power generation is missing. Or should we first work on restoration of the function of the rib cage, which many practitioners globally are specialising in - after all if our breathing is affected, our whole autonomous nervous system will be disregulated and how could we then imagine to express high amounts of forces? So now let’s say we have our magical practitioner who has all the knowledge possible and all the wisdom to see which part to first work on - the next problem is a big one: Can he communicate with his client in a way that works? Who is to say the client understands what is asked of him. Maybe he has preferences that prohibit the practitioner from teaching things in the right order. Maybe he has trauma patterns in his body that don’t allow him to easily access certain ranges of motion from a purely psychological level and he just doesn’t feel safe because the practitioner is an elitist dick who thinks he has the perfect plan for everything. People aren’t machines where simple input-output scripts work. To come back to your straw man of my points: Yes, I do think there is a perfect running form. But I think it exists at the level of the individual and one needs to take the whole bio-psycho-social environment into account in order to approach the perfect running form. The information processing approach of motor learning, where there is one right solution to a movement and all others are false or not as good, is being disproven very clearly. So going about and saying ‘this athlete doesn’t move perfectly in this video’ is just not a very useful way of learning about movement in my opinion - it is misleading and giving false certainty that understanding ‘good mechanics’ in movement is straight forward. A great example is how Dom has completely different patterns compared to Khedoori yet he continuously takes the same or bigger drops. According to this video here it shouldn’t be possible, no? After all Dom doesn’t have ‘good form’. But is that really true? How would you know? Looking forward to your reply Joey, I hope your tone can change a little bit after I’ve clearly taken time to make my argument and don’t come with any ill-intent.

One thing I'll take issue with is the whole "collapsing is always worse than staying upright". In my personal experience doing high drops the more you can draw out the impact the softer it becomes. Now I'm sure he means just having to your neck or back sling around unintentionally. But a forward collapse into the hands assisting with the drop is really good for me. And while I don't think I've done some heights like kehdori has. I know I've hit a few 15ft or so drops in my years. That being said I do have a slight overuse injury in my right knee. However that occurred after doing to much Wallrun practice without alternating the foot I use. And without giving my leg enough rest. I can still do Parkhurst as good as ever I just have to make sure to give my legs decent rest now. The injury is getting ever so incrementally better as time goes on. I'm sure in about a year I won't even feel it even after harsh training.

Taking a straight drop to a roll is really hard, and rolling gets more effective with forward momentum. Almost all of Khedoori's drops being discussed here are nearly straight down which is likely why you don't see much rolling going on.

Yeah he isn't too big/chunky so to me he always looked somewhat slim/gangly so I assumed he was tall. He's at a very good bodyweight to take such huge drops

167cm is 5'6

Maybe start with 4.5 metres 😬👍

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@@deanosaur808 you liking your own comments again? :)

@@ethnicalbert yep! Good innit? 😂😂😂 You still a w⚓ At least this guy got respect from the athletes featured! 😉

Definitely keen to talk about some fighters, not sure who to pick though. So many interesting movers out there.

Mike Tyson in his prime had some next level body dynamics! That would be cool if you are interested.

@@TheoTanchak Maybe make a poll and people can vote?

@@TheoTanchak Francis Ngannou, the current UFC Heavyweight champ, and world record holder for the hardest punch; might be a good start.

​@@zachparade2791​israel adesanya, ciryl gane, or Francis Ngannou are all good choices I think! Israel moves so much in the octagon and Ciryl is one of the best moves in UFC heavy Weight history!