Kickstarter/Crowdfunding Case Study: The Super Stove 

It would seem to me that rather than attempt to manufacture a wood stove with an integral thermoelectric generator, it might be more practical to develop a robust thermoelectric module that can be retrofitted to any wood stove.

I diligently watched the video, waiting for the moment the author tells us how it works. I think I noticed in one sentence only something about some thermocoupling plate, but this didn't help me understand. If the goal of the video was talking about possible uses, it was perhaps success for some. As for me, I don't get it.

Excellent idea, I live in the Highlands, and a system like this would change my life!

We tried to have wood burning stove. Sadly the regulations now covering soot & fumes have been made so strict that we need a unit attached to the back of the burner, which is larger than the burner has to be fitted. This won't work in our home without MAJOR & expensive alterations to rooms & building here in UK. V good idea he has provided your gov. Allows innovations like this.

4 months later there is still no update on product information. Is this being brought to market still?

Keep me updated. Go for it Howard😊

Would love to have this to retrofit to my existing wood stoves.

I'm interested in finding out more like electrical and BTU output.

This is AWESOME, I designed this Very stove 5 years ago, But Did Not Have the Time to Bring it to Fruition, and I am SOOOO HAPPY someone Else has Done it and Bringing it To Market , Thank -You for Your Work THIS IS FRICKIN AWESOME .....!

Would love to know more about the energy output specs. Is it available to test or purchase?

“Invented a new process” I am pretty sure thermocouples and similar devices have been around for a long time. There are also similar products already available on the market whereas this is still vaporware .

What a good idea to start with, I love it! To your critics eh… instead of making a big deal out of whatever negative aspect they can dream up… they should spend their precious time dreaming about applying some of the positive aspects of a very good idea and maybe improve their life or someone else’s….Power to those that strive to apply positive energy.

This is very interesting. I would like to learn more.

Need to charge my phone! Let me fire up my super stove because it's the middle of summer and a nice warm fire would be really good especially that the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing.... Perfect 👍

This is nothing new. 80 years ago they made thermocouple rings that you would put over the neck of an oil lamp to run your radio. Gas furnaces that switched the gas on and off using only the heat from the pilot light. Modern gas cookers that use this principle to turn off the gas in case the burner goes out, wood stove fans. Works OK, just not a lot of power. You can buy a solid state cooler that works on the reverse of this principle.

Beautiful video. How many watts, Ace?

I would like to learn more about the dimensions, wattage (VA) output, and any other operational and performance details. When is the projected date for availability for purchase or field testing? How much capital are you seeking to raise for this venture? All the best to you on this very worthwhile and exciting effort!

Very useful invention! I'm interesting! I'm waiting before you'll created a website and bring it to Ukraine!

Throughout the entire video, not once did he show how it actually works. No piping, or electrical lines. No example, other than repetitive nonsense that it's revaluationary. I call BS. "Patents Pending". Which means there's no schematics, blueprints, or anything to patent.

It would have been nice to hear some specs even if you said projected

The power it produces would be tiny

As a electronic engineer, this is very impressive, but the core problem is the current output, the idea to cool the peltier elements with a water pump is ingenius, because so the heat get removed from the heating elements towards a radiator.

Sounds great, being a forester over in Ireland this really appeals to me. I have been toying with a sterling engine... But would be surprised if a small stove like that could power a home, just simply on power in power out principles. Also the way governments are going burning anything will be outlawed soon. No new builds in Ireland have chimneys they are banned. If they cannot make money from it they will ban it. Tesla found that out. But I'm in, keep me posted, and if you have any figures that would be great. Keep it rolling 🙏

What a load of waffle. The video is more than 4 minutes in before it mentions thermoelectric generator. So this is not a new invention. All it seems to be is the packaging of widely used TEGs into the body of the stove itself, and some kind of water cooling pump, loop, and radiator. All the important info is not given - e.g. Typical power output (probably a few watts or less - enough to run a radio, charge a phone, or run some LED lights), but not much more. There are similar products out there (The Biolite camping stove - being one portable example). It makes me wonder if the film-makers know how un-original this is, or if they're just scientifically illiterate. Had the video been much less "smoke and mirrors" (pun intended), and said this is a product where someone's built in some peltier TEGs into a wood-burner, and it can generate X Watts, and it costs roughly Y (presumably a lot more expensive than a normal wood burner of a similar spec), then fair enough. If Mr Pym had editorial influence on this video, then he deserves criticisms for his delusions of grandeur. As it is, it's bloody annoying, misleading, and I hope it gets taken down and re-edited into something useful..

i will wait till the tooth fairy brings me one. a professional bait...wait till you hear the switch.

Amazing! This is wonderful

Wow what a brilliant idea.. love it. Have signed up on your website... Will be following your journey..

went to your domain and it forwarded me to another website, based on your email address, that had NOTHING to do with stoves or electricity... Sounds very interesting would love to know more about it...

Please quantify the amount of power. I have a trickle charger that will charge a phone, etc., but what can yours do?? Need numbers. Thank you.

Exactly how much power does it generate?

What price point are you attempting to meet?

Germany be like: Time to cut down trees and call it renewable green energy.

Very interested in knowing more about the super stove😊

Yea, I suspected that this would be another fake video with no real information that the title claims. Thankfully I realized this rather quickly, I just waisted 2 min and 37 seconds until I watched the other comments. I wonder what those who clicked the "thumb up" was expecting, or is it just a collab with bots?

Steam power is much better, a combination of thermoelectric and steam is even better (i.e. place the TEGs between the heat source and the boiler).

Ever try used oil or vegetable oil? Would love one in my off grid home

ready to see this at work

People lived for thousands of years without ANY electricity. We could do it again, and it would make it much more difficult for those who want to track us and control us.

I would LOVE to have one! WOW!! Thank you

I love this especially if combined with solar. My home community endures heavy snow and the highest temperatures in summer. Please keep me posted. Will it run the fridge consistently and can the power be stored? I absolutely want want this! Keep going!

Is it possible to commercialize this? I have a requirement for numerous units to generate power to drive a fan to improve combustion..

Thank you, Howard, for sharing your God-given talents with us. Spot on, keep up the good work! Many successes shortly. Let us know how you are getting on. Interested!

You could also get a paper shredder, and take old office documents, shred them, press them into paper bricks (which people already do) and burn them as logs if you live in a city or something. So you don't need 10 acres of woodland and a chainsaw to use one of these if you are creative.

'I imported manure from India...' LMAO and that was absolutely free ?

I can imagine a system like this that consists of a base unit, perhaps 2-3 different sizes, and then some modules to customize its function for end user. These modules could include powered ventilation (combustion chamber, or an air handler for the living space), alternatives on the energy side such as inverter and battery combos, start automation, pellet auto fill, damper control, convection loop cooling instead of pumped, hydronic heat exchanger & circ pump for hot water generation, cook surface accessories, just to name a few immediate thoughts off the top of my head... What sort of power yield could one expected from this? I wouldn't expect much, but I am not familiar with peltier thermo-generation. Of course, even a little electricity is much better than nothing. I'm a fan of rocket stoves. How do you get this one to burn cleanly, assuming it allows for modulating the rate of burn?

Hey Howard, Where I live firewood is not cheap. $400 a cord for soft wood and $580 a cord for hardwood. If you cut it yourself like I do, consider the time and effort it takes to gather the wood,most people don't want to go to the trouble of gathering wood. Great idea but firewood aint cheap.

Keep me updated for purchase. Howard.

❤ hello , how i can find you and products? Greetings

So much words to describe peliter effect.

How many watts per hour?

Thermocouples of existing semiconductors are very low output for the temperature difference and not that heat resistant further limiting output. A low pressure steam loop would probably be more effective and cheaper. Simply mass producing a versatile fuel stove using the firebox for heating, cooking and hot water would be a game changer and let solar or micro wind power your electronics.

Biolight camping stoves can recharge a phone. On a small scale in comparison to a Super Stove but additional proof of concept

This is very interesting Howard I'm interested in this.

This rings my scam bells because of the B reel, editing and repetitive delivery of the material. This configuration is not going to generate much power, but you don't need much for light. My concerns: 1) does the product exist, or is it "being developed" 2)how much power does it actually make; 3) with what reliability does it do this. If this thing can power a computer and a yurt full of LEDs for 8 hours on a load of wood, go for 5 years being used daily during winter without major repair, and cost under $1000 for the unit, it should be in every off-grid cabin in the world. (Well, most of them, there are places where one could have the best permanent dwelling in the village built for $1000). On the side bar, I see a title "45 watt wood burning stove, thermoelectric ..." so if this is the same, that might be enough power but for how long, and more importantly, how long until it requires parts replacement. In my experience, things that heat up and cool down a lot tend to break.

The ashes don't look like a very efficient combustion taking place.

There is probably a reason that he doesn't mention output power and that is because it will run some lights, but doubtful that it will run a refrigerator or anything on that scale.

I had been thinking about this for years and could not figure it out, ahh! The thermocupler.

This seems to be a version of a large peltier device... Not a great energy exchange,... But not "fake"... A cleaner enviromental , stronger energy product, would be a de-gasifier stove and a " normal" combustion generator.... Much more labor intensive, and complex system.... Rethinking our energy consumption problems,..... respect !!

A new and cool TEG. The newer technologies that make more efficient use of power allow this to be successful, in my opinion.

All the information will be released when the stove launches on kickstarter. The stove will be produced by a world famous stove manufacturer. It passed all the up to date certification including the clean air strategy produced by the EU. Thermo electric generators were first invented in the 1850’s and did only make a tiny amount of power but that is then not now. Technology is moving at an enormous speed.

Hi, is this something like BioLife products where you can charge your phone and solar lights from the little fire-burning outdoor camp stove? I am looking into van life and am interested in a smaller version than what is shown in this video, something like the GRIZZLY Cubic Mini Wood Stove? Thank you.

With the use of thermoelectric generator plates, this seems to be a no brainer. I was going to do some experimenting on this tech but it seems someone beat me to the punch. Or perhaps you need some competition? ? ?

Old technology. Simply put, the reason why thermoelectric technology hasn't been already adopted in wood burning stationary applications is that it generates so little electricity. For every $100 in materials and electronics spent upfront might generate 10 watts. So for a $1000 upfront, you get 100 watts of surplus electricity when the stove is burning. Even in UK or other northern climates during the winter, solar + battery is more cost effective.

Yes please send information. Thank you!

It’s certainly nice to make an announcement about its existence, and that it could make a difference, but this could have certainly been a lot more informative. It would’ve actually been really nice to see exactly how it works. Unless I’m nodded off halfway through this and missed it, this was sadly lacking.

I'm afraid I need to know a bit of what you are presenting in the first half or it is a nogo.

Real power from wood is a gasifier to a conventional generator.

Neat idea, I hope you get the support you need

Howard... where do I order one? I too agree that a chimney stack module would really be innovative and millions will sell in months.

I'm definitely interested!

there's a lot of questions to ask here. first, the stove is not actually produced at this time, nor is there a decent web site showing anymore info on it. the site asks for your contact info and shows nothing else. i'm skeptical at best......

The plumbing for water would be the thing that would get me more than anything…..

Amazing 🎉. I would love to learn more about this

this video is the same as a recipe online. a lot of fluff with no real info.

it is a presser vessel it has to be super safe only leap I see, other than meeting emissions in some countries and then there is the technology barriers for some now as well , cant wait to see it on the market .

Could be good, idk. Need more about what it is and how it works and output, less about natural disasters & listing things-you-can-use-electricity-for. We're all pretty familiar with using electricity inside a home at this point.

very nice video and well put. Like to know more, Yes.

Thanks😊

Cool idea when heat is needed. Can we do the same with geothermal all year round?

Interesting , thank You . I hope it works

A stove that makes electric ⚡ to power a Tesla!🎉😮 Awesome 💯😎😍

Good luck, he's worked hard to get it this far, but the film ideally needs statistics to spark proper interest from backers.

We need a link to buy it!

This sound amazing, I have a off grid project and I would love to test drive this idea , please tell me how to find you and your stove

i need one where are they sold and do they come larger

I'm sorry, what exactly did you invent??? The reason I ask is because thermo electric power specifically generated from woodstoves has been around for 15+ years now.

Scam is written all over this video. I would be highly suspicious of this device.

Pretty rad

Hi Howard, very impressive video. Please keep me posted. I'm interested from the perspective of retrofitting existing wood heaters as I refurbish them for a living. Could such a device be fitted to fireboxes which have fire-bricks, say in the upper part of the firebox above the bricks? And could it work attached to the flue outlet or lower flue? One thing that concerns me is the durability of the electronics in close proximity to such extreme heat.

Increase the temperature differential of TEG with the current it produces, by releasing a heating source or even to supply a hot water tank. It's a very good idea, very well thought out: heating more than just one room in the house autonomously, and getting some extra charge or light. The low efficiency of thermometric recovery is not a problem at all for your application, it's just a question of fine tuning. But the TEG module is the wearing part that can break down if the heat rises too high. How do you optimise this parameter?

Whos to say the satellite for this won't be taken out with the grid? What's the price?

Amazing idea i am very curious about the specs of the electra how many watts can it generade? does the power go into a batterie? I live in Gallicia spain and a lots of people have a wood burner. will it create enough energy 4 exmpl a heater wich we can use in another room? so i warm 2 rooms in the house one in wood second on electricity.? cant wait 4 the specs get well soon.

How about using radiant sky cooling for the cold water side? The opening and closing of the tank could be automatic based on light.

Brilliant and timely? How many kilowatts so far?

I agree with you r . This will undoubtably be comming soon.

Sonds interesting . Whats the power output?. Keep me informed.

wow.... You were the one to invent the thermopile.... you dont look 200yrs old. Did you spend anytime with ole Tom Seebeck? You should have said... you took a few thermoelectric modules and shhoved them into a rather nice looking woodstove. It is a very nice stove by the way... Did you weld that up yourself ? If so good work. Looked again... looks more like a steel back plate addon. unit to an existing stove... People have been doing this for well over a hundred years. The problem is... as you will find out... time. All the single unit woodstove/fireplace 'units' degrade over time... they are over heated by persons that do not understand how they work... abused and destroyed. They have a very expensive ... but very nice looking woodstove that can still heat the room and provide hot water as needed. A lot of companies have startted just like this and have gone under so you dont see them now... but this is far from new. There was one called the Devil watt or something... put out by a survivalist supply company... There was another... like Hobbit stoves had a unit. Heck, they used to sell them on Alibaba... No kidding. Alibaba.

Is there an expected release date for this stove. And what is the electrical output of the stove?

Picture won't come up in youtube. The Power Multiplier Device: Open sourced, gravity driven, free energy generator: Functions as follows: There are two large sprockets, one on the roof of the building, the other at ground level. A chain connects both so that when one side of the chain is pulled down it turns both sprockets. On the axle of the lower sprocket there is another sprocket that connects to a transmission that is connected to a generator. When the same side of the chain is pulled down it turns the lower sprocket and the second sprocket which turns the generator to produce energy. This requires a downward pull of 2,000 pounds to produce sufficient energy. On the inside of the chain that is pulled down there is a small drive sprocket that is kept in place by two heavy plates, one of each side of the small sprocket, having the axle of the small sprocket going through each weight. On the outside of the chain there are two idler wheels above and below where the small sprocket is on the other side to keep the chain on the small sprocket. Two more idler wheels at the top of each weight to keep it attached to the chain. Each axle of the idler sprocket has threads for a machine nut so they stay in place as connectors. The axle of the small sprocket goes through the weights on both sides and extends out. A large bicycle-type wheel is placed on this axle and has a diameter of 7 feet. At the top of the weight on the side of this bicycle-type wheel is a small motor that has a chain around its drive sprocket that goes around the circumference of the bicycle-type wheel. Small motor draws energy from the battery to turn a large bicycle-type wheel clockwise, turning the drive sprocket clockwise also because both share the same axle. This has the drive sprocket climb the chain, taking the whole assembly with its 2,000 pounds of weights. Three things now happen: 1) The motor takes the assembly to the top of the chain with its 400 pound pull, taking 1 hour to do so, requiring the energy amount from the battery. Energy Expended going up. EE/up= 1 hour pull of 400 pounds from the battery. 2) As the assembly is climbing the chain, it's heavy weight (2,000 lbs.) is still hanging/pulling on the chain, pulling the chain down which turns the transmission/generator, producing a full charge of energy going back into the battery. Energy generated going up, EG/Up = 1 hour of a 2,000 pound pull by the heavy mechanism. 3) When the assembly reaches the top the small motor shuts off and the assembly's weight slowly begins to descend, pulling the chain down with it. Since it climbed the chain faster than it pulled the chain down, its descent will take longer than 1 hour for its energy generated down charge into the battery. EG/Down = 1+ hour of a 2,000 pound pull charging into the battery. EE/Up 1 hour of a 400 pound pull < EG/UP (1 hour of a 2,000 pound pull charge into the battery) + EG/Down (1+ hours of the 2,000 pound pull charge into the battery) = FE, EE/up < (EG/UP + EG/Down) = FE. With a heavier weight: 1) The motor takes the assembly to the top of the chain, taking 3 minutes to do so, requiring the energy amount from the battery that is represented by the expression 1N. Energy expended going up. EE/up=1N. 2) As the assembly is climbing the chain, it's heavy weight is still hanging/pulling on the chain, pulling the chain down which turns the transmission/generator, producing a full charge of energy going back into the battery. Energy generated going up, EG/up=.4N. 3) When the assembly reaches the top, the small motor shuts off and the assembly's weight slowly begins to descend, pulling the chain down with it. This descent takes 10 times longer than the ascent due to the heavy weight of the assembly, and the low gearing of the transmission, it 'creeps' down. In 3 minutes going up, .4N was charged back into the battery. In 6 minutes going down .8N will be charged into the battery, replacing all of the energy the small motor expended. The remaining 24 minutes of the descent will charge 3.2N into the battery, Energy generated going down, EG/down=3.2N energy not needed for the mechanism's operation, free energy. EE/up < (EG/up + EG/down) = FE, or, 1N < (.4N + 4N) = 3.4N FE. Connecting another PMD with five times the weight, to the first one, having the lower sprocket be the small motor for the second one's larger bicycle-type wheel, will produce more energy.

I believe TEGMART has stand-alone thermoelectric generators for sitting on/near a wood stove surface. Kind of expensive though. I think ..... maybe about US $700 for a 100 watt version. Max. temp. is something like 800 deg. F. (Has water cooling) I believe the surface of a wood stove can get to about 400 deg.F. It would be neat if someone could make an efficient wood stove that had a phase change heat transfer material in a double wall that could effectively release heat during the night or early morning as the fire dies down.