Kilian Jornet  

Awesome video, Sage :) My cousin (Bjørnar S. Lillefosse, Hoka-sponsored athlete) got 3rd at hytteplanmila, ran 28:45 after coming back from a stress fracture april-may of 2020.

I am sure Killian Jornet can do an even faster 10k. End of August he posted pictures and a description of the workout on his instagram suggesting so. Starting with a vertical K in 29:57, easy down, then 10k flat in 29:42. Insane! 🙌🏼

Great video. I was surprised he raced a 10km after posting an 89km on the track! I can't see how running 89km on the track helps for a pb on a 10km. He is definitely some a special athlete. Sage you should not underestimate your podiums and all the experienced you shared as an elite athlete. I wishes I had the same level as yours and be able to share like you do.

Great discussion, Sage!!! I look forward to everyone returning to races here in the San Juan mountains!!

Your pronunciation of "Jakob Ingebrigtsen" was spot on. Henrik (Scandinavian)

Out of comfort zone: I used to run road races but stopped for several years and just ran for the love of it. But at the age 63 I became inspired to run trail and ultra races--partly because of you, Sage, and some others I'd watched and read about, including, of course, Killian. I trained myself up to trail race and cover the longer distances--which absolutely is a different muscle experience than road racing. Probably one of my better examples of how that has gone is a 4:31 and change for the 25 mile version of American River trail race here in California in 2019 at the age of 66. Unfortunately this pandemic has halted progress, as it has for most all of us. But I'm blessed and fortunate to love this sport and activity of running.

I am abstaining from alcohol until after a trail marathon next month. Every time I want an adult pop you come into my mind. I’m like Sage is great and he has beer. I should be fine. Great review, and very educational as always. ❤️

Good having a mix of views regarding different kinf of races.... Any surface any distance.. Love it!

Great video! Late to running. Weight lifted throughout all of twenties, sedentary from 30-38. Been running for two years and planning first ultra this fall. Speaking about getting out of comfort zones, running has been tougher & more rewarding. Mentally hard, physically demanding, and requires planning. Appreciate the informative content.

Big fan Sage with your any distance and race model. Never done anything but full marathon 14 plus Boston. Now I’m getting out my comfort zone and training for speed 5km for now.

Great episode

Interesting content on Jornet and his career! Have also always wondered about how the two worlds of Trail and Road running would collide. Both have incredible benefits/ offer different experiences.

Interesting discussion! I started running decades ago to stay fit for mountaineering/ski-mountaineering adventures and then it became it's own activity, most summers I run 2-3 50-70K mountain trail runs (not organized races) just for the challenge and enjoyment. When I was in my mid 40s I was putting down some pretty good running volume, 150K weeks consistently, all distances of 12K or more, and not fast, all on trails. Fast forward a bunch of years (Let's just say I'm well on the wrong side of 50) and my volume has decreased to 80-90K weeks (all trail running) and still not fast (5:00/km on flat sections) but age adjusted not terrible. I find that the muscles and skill for technical trails do not translate to fast-flat-road running. I've occasionally run with some fairly speedy roadies on combination routes and they slay me on the pavement and I go blasting past them on the trails.

No trails around me and no no road marathons coming anytime soon, I signed up for a 50 mile trail run on some fairly technical trails about 3 hours away. Have been up there x2 now to experience the vertical and try to get used to the rocks and roots. After a successful 16.5 and 14.5 miler, I'm not sure I want to BQ now. The 6 hour drive sucks but I'm excited to grind coming up and hope I can make the 12 hour cut-off time!

Killian's interview by Mario Fraioli is a great listen. They touch on some of his training going into road racing.

Loved this video, Sage! I started running back in the 70s. I ran cross country in college and after that did mainly road races for the next few decades. I did 5ks all the way to marathon distance. To get out of my comfort zone, I did my first triathlon (sprint) when I was 42. It was hilarious. I had not been on a bike since I was about 12. I bought a road bike the month before the race and had to learn how to ride and use gears all at the same time. I've done a few more. I also went back to running trail races in my 50s. I actually got to meet you at the Speedgoat in 2015. I did the Vertical "Mile". I think it was about seven miles. I finished! That was quite a challenge considering I had no elevation training and traveled from Texas just two days before. I'm always finding new ways to get out of my comfort zone, even in my 60s. Right now, during this pandemic, I'm doing virtual distance races and strength training. Oh yes, I keep working on balance, too! I enjoy seeing the mountain trails in your videos. Do you think you could do a video about compression socks/calf sleeves? I'm curious if those make any difference, especially for long distances. Thanks so much for your time and effort you put into your videos.

Great video! There are some references on the web which claim that Kilian even has a vo2max of 92...

On Sunday I was out of my comfort zone when I put the treadmill on 12% incline :p

Found this channel today and loving the content!

Great video Sage and a good effort by Kilian, a runner I've seen a number of times. I've often wondered how a great flat marathon runner like Kipchoge would perform, at say, Western States or even UTMB. Maybe a better question would be how Kipchoge would perform at Comrades? Would the record fall?

I live in France in the mountains so trail running most of the time but also road cycling 🚵‍♀️ !

The T-Shirt made it to Germany - I love it :) Thank you!

Hi Sage, even us Non Elite runners can enjoy mixing things up to accomplish running goals at different ends of the spectrum. Last year I did a 50 mile run on my 50th birthday and this year I ran a sub 20 5k. I think having a goal to work for helps a lot. I doesn’t do your running any harm either, a bit of speed work to try and get your 5k PB is a good addition to your training, even if you like building up for a long distance.

The hoody is nice

That was fun to watch him....relaxed and like....on cruze cotrol....gliding. Nice! Maybe it was just sort of like an outdoor treadmill...to him. His Mother was also very impressive to meet in a video...I only mention that because I could see the fire and determination in her eyes, also. Take good care of...all. Wish you and yours WELL!

Very interesting Sage! Jakob has the course record at Hytteplanmila 27:54 in 2019, Norwegian record road 10 K. 🇧🇻👍

Nice video. I admire Kilian for his approach to the sport: he likes to test out things out and does nog say ’no’ from the start. When the ultra world was ’challenged’ by Jim Walmsley on the ’slow’-liness, many thought Jim was a guy with a big mouth. But Kilian took up the challenge and started focussing much more on speed. Pretty sure this 10k is a result of that. Same story for Zinal: I think he mentioned he could improve on uphill speed, and focused on that. It’s what I rally love about him: he considers weaknesses as challenges to improve.

*Hytteplanmila* Hytte = Cottage Plan = Flat (like a flat ground) Mila = Metric mile (10km)

Hi. I'm a subscriber! I've been following Kilian's career for a good 10 years. He's just AMAZING! He's like a human gazelle! 🏔🏃‍♂️ I remember he eats lots of Nutella 🍞🌰; don't think that helped. However, it at least led to me trying it; not bad!😊 Anyway, I really like you content. Take care!😁

Great video Sage ! its cool to see Kilian take on new challenges ! what are your thoughts on Tom Evens running a 13.41 5k and a 63.15? half marathon? cool to see the range on some top runners these days !

Great talk as usual, thanks. As road runner aged 50, I personally took the challenge of a sprint triathlon last year. That was fun even if I am really bad swimmer. But I have a question for you Sage: has Kilian's 10k inspired you to perhaps for a road 10k or marathon in 2021? Earlier this year I know you had plans to run Chicago, and I really hope you will reconsider that next year. I really enjoy watching your road and track workouts. Good luck!

Great video Sage! Jakob ran 3:28, which is insane! 😵😵😵

Also check out what Tom Evans is up to, just did 1:03 at the World Champs Half Marathon, not bad considering he got 3rd at Western States

I like mountain and trails, and okay with flat roads. My pet peeves are damaged / trashed sidewalks, which are inevitable in metropolitan areas of Southeast Asia, I had to endure those when stationed in Bangkok, Manila, and Ho Chi Minh city for a few weeks each time.

I'm actually working on speed after only doing trails. This week or the next I want to go the track for the first time in my life!

Kilian always said he is not a runner.. Just love to be in a great outdoors and challenging Himself! Not bad 😁

Thanks man. Out of comfort zone

Will deffo get a hoodie once my october paycheck gets in. I love the design!

3 years ago I opted for my first real trail race (24km with 1800m of vert) instead of my standard Fall half marathon. Training was great, the race was great and I have made sure to include some trail work in all my training. I still prefer the shorter distance stuff of half marathons or maybe up to 3 hours on the trail though. I've also gone back to 5Ks a lot as well thanks to our local parkrun.

Very informative video Sage. It is definitely very intersting to see the crossover between road running and trail/mountain running. I think Jim Walmsley performance in the Olympic trials (2h15' on a rather lumpy course) can give us an idea of what a runner like Killian could do in a flat marathon on the road. Personally, I've been trying to run with more vertical gain to get out of my comfort zone- still struggling to find the sweet spot of pacing when it gets very steep.

I’m currently a High School Senior. I hope to run in college. This quarantine season, I’ve been doing a lot more trail running compared to my previous year of training. I feel that this is really helping me with my uphill running which I consider to be a weakness of mine

As a former powerlifter running at all has been out of my comfort zone so far.

Some extra info after seeing the race on Facebook. The commentators said Killian had said he was aiming for 29 minutes low which might explain the 14:30 on the first 5k.

I'm going to be running my first MUT race in about 3 weeks. It's a 55k with 6,500' of climbing, and fairly technical. I'm mostly from a flat running background, with XC in high school being the hilliest stuff I've done. It'll be interesting for sure, I'm just trying to break 7 hours.

Great analysis Sage! Also, nice hoodie!

this was informative and really good to understand. is there a link for the hoodie?

Cool vid. Thanks, Sage!

Great vid. My comfort zone is HM 21k, other 10k and 42.2K marathon are out of my CZ.

More of such analysis!

I actually am planning on getting out of my comfort zone a bit. I’m a high school senior running XC, but after my season ends I’m planning to do some marathon training. If all goes according to plan, I’ll get in a 20-miler two weeks after state.

Hi! I like a lot the idea of running well on any kind of surfaces. I do mountain running but i enjoy running xc and road races too. What are your advices to plan a week or even a season to be competitive in road races in the spring and be competitive in summer mountain races as well? How can i periodize it? Have a nice day guys!

Great insight!

Hey Sage, I have been wondering about this race and whether or not it was respectable for a guy like Jornet. I am no stranger to his exploits. I certainly follow pro running but have also been interested in technical climbing for most of my life. I've climbed a lot of walls in Yosemite as well as ice and glacier routes in Canada. Being aware of both, Killing caught my eye years ago andI have to say this guy sort of spans a couple worlds. Outside magazine said not too many years ago "It's not even mildly hyperbolic to call him the world's greatest living athlete." All that said, it seemed as though LRC considered this a flop. I wasn't so sure, so I turned to a true expert (you know pro road racing and mountain ultras) to put this in perspective. I enjoyed the analysis and am happy to see that you appreciate the accomplishment as do I.

So, I haven't run a half marathon since 2013 pretty much fresh out of college running track & cross country. I had a decent time (for me) in the half, but not a really great endurance background. I now have a much stronger base, but have been doing 50k-50 mile races over the past handful of years with less focus on speed. A couple of weeks ago something in the back of my head told me I should try the half again and see what I am made of now. I am scared! Trying to decide if I go for a virtual race that has a deadline of December 31st or if I should take more time to train and potentially just create a race of one depending on if there are more virtual races in the new year.

The guy is 32yo and ran a split time conistent with a boys high school xc time. Amazing! Most ultra runners do not do well in shorter races, just like K.J. said in his interview, the training and focus are different. Sage, when is your next crit race?

Yeah I think giving any distance race a go 5k 10k 21k Marathon makes the sport way more fun & interesting, never thought I’d ever do a marathon, but did my first marathon two weeks ago on a hard coarse Rotorua Marathon here in New Zealand once around Rotorua lake, got first in my age group 55-59 😀 did It in 3 hours & 23 min, who knows maybe sub 3 hours next one 😀👍🍀☘️🏃🏼‍♂️🌳✌️👍🏼

Are the hoodies true to size? Thank you.

Makes me think of a discussion I had with friends (we're XC runners), we came to the conclusion that speed on mountains/trails generally translates to speed on road, but the reverse not as much. Thoughts on this?

Technical downhills. And, in the near future, trying to make myself do any amount of track/speed work. Both ends of the running spectrum, I suppose.

Where is the hoodie link, I don’t see it? Checked your website and found only t-shirt and tank...

Hey sage, what's that watch on your wrist at 3:19? is that your current favorite?

Great video!

Would love to see what Kilian can do at Mt. Washington

transitioned from NCAA XC to 50k trail running... went from okay D2 runner to course records!

right now im the opposite: my skeletalmuscular system feels beat up after technical trails but right now pavement feels great

I stepped up to the Half Marathon after being able to do 10k. So yeah I kind of try to push myself a lot.

I got into running by originally wanting to run ultras, but ended up really wanting to run a fast road marathon. Currently going after a BQ and hoping to run even faster than it if possible. Running a fast 10k worries me more than finishing a 100k. I really like the challenge though. Also, I still believe you can win WS100. I don't think it's your ability at 100 miles distances but more so your approach. I hope you give that race another shot one day, with undivided attention. I'm almost positive you'd surprise yourself and a lot of other people too.

6:55 Jakob Ingebrigtsen... I feel like I've heard that name before... signed, 2022.

Does trail running help with half to full marathon training?

I ran 100k in the last 8 days and feel fresh! I've been swinging 1 week high/1 week low millage for a few months now to build up which helps a lot.

Lillian is probably the GOAT. And Jim is probably the 2nd GOAT.

Interesting that sage didn't say much about killian personally. He seems like a genuinely cool dude. A gracious winner and someone who loves the sport. Can anyone speak to this?

Hey so if "any surface any distance" when you running a 200 homie?

His Vo2 max is 92

Are the merchandise are shipable to India ? If so any other charges applicable ??

Make tank tops with nice mesh materials / shorts!

I think Kilian has a lot more left in the tank! 2:48 first k and 3:00 the last two might indicate going out way too hard

I can’t find the teespring link

I'm pretty sure KJ has only been beaten once at UTMB ;)

Who do you think is the best flat out climber? Probably Joe Gray, I'd say.

His vo2 max is 92.

Shout out to Jono Wyatt 🇳🇿

Killian was injured I think... Knee...

as the author of THE OUTDOOR ATHLETE (1985/Johnson Press) et. al, creator/founder of Wholistic Fitness®, and 2x cover athlete of OUTSIDE Magazine? feeble ilg will go on record to say, that, without doubt, Kilian is the most wholistic/versatile mountain athlete ever. how about him dislocating his shoulder at Hardrock 100, and kept racing...and won?! re: comfort zone! ha! that's why i created Wholistic Fitness®! the MOMENT we begin to feel comfortable or successful at a sport or discipline? it's to time find a NEW Dance, baby! specialization is for insect, my first Wholistic Fitness® t-shirt read! when we specialize in something, we tend to get better at it. even successful. with success comes egoic attachment. we don't want to change. for we don't want to look like a nube after we have tasted success. yet? the definition of an athlete is capability across the physiologic spectrum; versatility. so yeah, we Wholistic Fitness® athletes are all-ways changing sports and dancing among the physiologic spectrum. great Vlog again! Dewa is racing MS State XC Championships this Saturday in Denver! come watch! :-) head bowed,

29:59 for a runner with 90 vo2 isnt great at all

Do you think he could have gone faster with Nike Vaporfly or something carbon plated? Not sure if his new looking Salomon has a plate.

Great video!