This movie ages so well, you cant believe the awards shows ignored it. Thurman was deserving of an Oscar for this role. All supporting characters played to perfection. Q.T.'s finest hour, both 1 & 2.
It is. Especially Tarantino's astounding craftsmanship to create a REAL strong female character. In the same manner, he created Django as an astounding anti-racist movie. Everything that modern Hollywood constantly fails.
I read that the reason she did not get the Oscar was because it was a 2 part movie. And as entries go, by the time submitted, it was not finished? QT said this scene was an homage to an older movie. Almost identical to it when she runs past the divider..
@@stellamarisvillarreal3712meiko kaji - shura no hana, from the soundtrack of lady snowblood. the film where Quentin Tarantino drew inspiration from for Lucy Liu's character :)
Even without subtitles you can feel the strength of the words, the dialogues and of course the wind blowing, the snow falling and that sound of fountain again and again. This scene is a Masterpiece.
After watching this scene so many times, i still cannot get over Lucy Liu's beauty serenity and and gentle poised movements, yet the lurking deadlyness of it all. This scene is trule mesmerizing
That's why I love Japanese stories dating back to the samurais era...the way they fight...with respect and such coordination and gentle style plus more. .it really amazing Mua💯🫶 The style. Their sweet movements is a real typical Samurai STYLE...AND EVEN IN JAPAN THEY STILL PRACTICE SAMURAI WAYS BUT NOT TO KILL..BUT TO LEARN THEIR HISTORY....LIKE GEISHAS...CANT BE COMPATE WITH THE LADIES OF THE NIGHT HERE IN USA... TO BE RESPECTFUL...GEISHAS FOLLOW RULES...A SEXY TECHNIQUE TO ATTRACT MEN BACK THEN AND STILL KNOW...WITHOUT SHIWING SKIN...THE WAY THEY PRACTICE THE TEA CEREMONY TO PLEASE MEN...THATS FIR ME...CLASSIC AND SEXY.
The contrast of the white snow against red blood, the black hair flying against the white snow makes this scene so palpable...Tarantino is a genius director
@@psychandson6337 Pai mei only taught Uma, hand to hand combat styles, not fighting with blades, she alrdy knew about that, he did also make her wielding arm strong since, it belonged to Pai mei, he also understood that Uma wasnt gonna use her ability to do more harm then what her revenge needed, thats why she got to learn the pai meis secret moves
Lucy is all over it, and the symbolism of when Uma hits her leg and she hobbles off then the water fountain pours out as so does Lucy's life flows, great correlation
You only see the significance once you've seen the whole story, but O-Ren was the only one Beatrix was visibly afraid of. She didn't show that much caution or wariness for anyone else on her list. Not even Bill. She single-handedly faced down a literal army with nothing but grim resolve on her face. But a single O-Ren set her on her back foot. Adds such a later of tension to the whole scene. This scene is all-time-cinema great.
What I love about this scene is how frightened Uma Thurman looks. It goes against every action movie staple as that's not the face of someone who knows they're going to win.
@asava17 That "extra" was revenge on the people she once worked with who left her for dead, and the baby she thought she lost and her friends...That's what kept her going, that's what gave her the slight edge.
@@xemnas9098that’s true I agree. However we also have to take note that even before those atrocities that they have done to Beatrix she already was an exceptional warrior to begin with. Pai Mei could have seen something in her, enough for her to be worthy of being his student. And the one who inherited the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. Plus, Bill loves her. And yes when they did those things, that made her become unstoppable.
B really chose to kill O-Ren first to send a message to the other assassins. That no matter how skilled and protected you are with money and gangs, she will still get to finish you.
To be honest I have only Watched snippets of this movie and I just don’t get the masterpiece part. I consider myself a movie buff but I don’t see the brilliance the masterpiece the goosebumps. Unless it’s in the campy-ness of the style it’s filmed in.
This fight was probably Beatriz least favorite because she and O-Ren had the closest relationship. You could even say, O-Ren apologized for taking part in her beating/"execution" when she apologized for ridiculing her. You can feel they cared about each other but it had to end this way....
@@venusfoo9667I don’t think she cared as much having to kill Vernita as much she did O’Ren. B and Vernita did seem really mutual like they were in good terms when they were in the deadly vipers, but in the end she told Vern’s daughter she had it coming. With O’Ren, you got a mutual respect until the end, even with her narrating the whole thing.
This is one of my favorite duel scenes in any film. Previously, O-Ren draws a shorter knife when Beatrix defeats Gogo. She knows Beatrix is the greater warrior and is considering seppuku, or ritual suicide, rather than letting Beatrix kill her. She sticks her knife in a wood railing and abandons it when the Crazy 88 arrive, deciding that she will fight to the death if Beatrix is still alive after facing her private army. In this scene, the camera at 1:02 mirrors its previous angle when she draws her weapon, but emphasizes the slower draw of a much longer weapon. It's clear she now intends to fight. She fights Beatrix asymmetrically, using her katana offensively and her scabbard as a parrying tool and blunt secondary weapon. Usually in a sporting duel, warriors would use the same tools, but since this is to the death they each just fight how they prefer. This dual-wielding style doesn't work out for her, though. Just a few seconds into their opening exchange, Beatrix makes a powerful swing and slices a foot or so of her scabbard clean off. You can see O-Ren stop and think for several seconds, realizing that her shield is useless. It kept her opponent at a bit of range, but would just get her killed if it couldn't stop her opponent's blade. Previously, she had called Beatrix a liar when she said her sword was made by Hattori Hanzo, but this display of insane sharpness and power gives her reason to suspect that the sword is as incredible as Beatrix claimed. To her credit, she doesn't panic. She tosses away the broken scabbard and switches to a two-handed grip of her sword. Katanas, by design, can be swung more powerfully with both hands, so O-Ren is putting her full faith and power into her weapon. The intense disco music lasts until O-Ren cuts Beatrix during their second exchange, beyond which point the music goes silent and we can instead her her ragged breathing. O-Ren insults Beatrix at this point, and Beatrix replies politely but defiantly. In their third exchange, Beatrix gives O-Ren a comparably serious wound, such that they are both bleeding badly and comparably disadvantaged. Sensing the danger she's in, O-Ren takes the opportunity to apologize, and address her opponent with mutual respect. Finally, in their fourth exchange, Beatrix kills O-Ren with a brutal slash to the head. The whole fight is a beautifully choreographed dance of mutual desperation. Both fighters are pushed to their limits, but Beatrix perseveres due to both her unbreaking will, and the Okinawan katana she took pains to acquire. IMHO, O-Ren is the most dangerous person she faces before Bill.
It's a great movie fight but it's definitely not on The Duelist level for duels or even The Deluge for fights... a fencer would rip through them just like Portuguese sailors (not even soliders or swordmasters/duelists) using Smallswords did to the Samurai. Smallswords are perfect for 1v1 fights over all other swords... it's why military officers usually had a "dress" sword with a Smallsword blade with a regulation hilt but kept the standard Saber blade with a regulation hilt for actual combat use.
"Ain't no one badder then a double dose of rock salt to the tits." - Budd It depends on what you consider dangerous. A good trap can be more dangerous then a hundred men.
@@brettzforeman Yeah well Elle was right about one thing. Budd bushwacked the shit out of Beatrice. He knew better then to cross blades it a person who's revenge had the personal stamp of Hattori Hanzo himself. And honestly ORen was a coward. She let all her men fight Beatrice first to wear her down and then decided to throw down after there were was no one left to throw at her. I will say the fight was well shot and choreographed and very memorable. But if we are talking most dangerous Deadly Viper only Budd managed to defeat Beatrice. Had he "Performed the coup de grace with a rock." He would have killed her clean.
Actually, I don't know that the shorter weapon was her considering suicide, considering that was Gogo's knife. She pulled it out earlier when Bea was almost discovered and you can tell it was Gogo's with the childish beads wrapped around the scabbard, what I don't know is why Gogo left it with O'ren rather than carrying it into her fight with Bea as a back-up weapon.
I'm pretty sure that the only reason O-ren did as well as she did was because Beatrice had had to fight her way through a couple dozen assassins including Gogo.
@5:25 the way the frame cuts off Orens forehead. The look in her eyes as she realizes she is about to die and the framing foreshadowing exactly the way it’ll happen. Perfect.
It’s incredibly peaceful for a death scene all I hear in the fountain flow, it’s set in a Japanese garden, which are meant to be tranquil, so for the setting to be done in this environment was brilliant
Ultra violent action classic, created by Tarantino, which surpasses most of it's genre. Uma Thurman is on fire. The background score just added to the mood. The unrealistic fight scene of one against hundreds is phenomenal.
This was such an exquisite fight. Lucy Liu is such a bad ass. Epic. Her movements, poise, expressions, movements with the sword....yes!!! Uma Thurman!!! Yesssss!!! What a power match. I noticed so much influence from The Crow in her movement...especially that wingspan.... Incredible poetry. Bravo!! #LightsCameraCatharsis!
The accuracy of the song playi n during the entire secne is a masterpiece. The little movments slowley climaxing with the soundtrack is hands down the best i have watched. Trantino should have one oscars just for this scene alone not even talking about.the entire movie that was brliiant.
Everything about this movie is pure art! Just watched this masterpiece again last night for how many time I lost count. Kill Bill is by far my most favourite movie of all time❤❤❤❤❤
I love this movie special way. I have such deep feelings watching it.. All job is done pretty good - music, actors, chapters, scenes, everything is in a top.
@@kellyvaters1689 that's correct. it would've been a river of blood going down to her foot plus the arterial blood has a much higher pressure, si it would've also sprayed all over her kimono, not just dripped down her leg...what we saw was clearly not a wound to an artery.
Well, if you believe in Mickey mouse. I can think of 5 better theatrical duel scenes in 8 seconds, with at least some real fencing involved. Ridley Scott's the Duel, Rob Roy, Mask of Zorro, Achilles vs. Hector, Kurosawa's Rashomon. Here you are. 8 seconds net.
Since Tarrantino adores the old school films and Western movies I think it is no coinsidence that the the sound of the the little ramp in the well reminds of the squeaking wind mill in Once upon a time in the West - just great!!
Beatrix was just on another level...she was very tired and injured after fighting the crazy 88 and Gogo ( she spit blood after getting hit in the chest by her iron ball, meaning the hit caused damage to her internal organs), yet she still came out on top..
I think after all these years What I start to observe is the expression on uma Thurman's face She genuinely didn't want to kill any of them She had to..
@GaribaldiBiscuit Yeah, and what I especially like about this scene is how scared Oren looks when Uma gets back up after being cut. It's almost as if Oren under-estimated the fact that Beatrix had been shot in the head and, on top of surviving that, had completed Pai Mei's training program (hence he taught her the eye-ball gouge!). Uma was the true warrior in this movie, but I will admit that Oren is pretty badass and her fucked-up past turned her into a sadistically dangerous sword-fighter.
Oren should have been nervous before that. After all, Beatrix had just dispatched GoGo and the Crazy 88 by herself. Left behind a pile of mismatched body parts in the process.
Tarantino should have been given some sort of lifetime achievement award for his selection of the music/songs in these two movies. The intro to a disco version of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood????" How the hell did he come up with that!?!?
What breaks my heart, is how these women were sexually harassed by Weinstein, and abused by Tarantino to protect his monster of a mentor. Absolutely DESTROYED Uma and her career, and gave her PTSD after her biggest success 🤦♀️
She got as well several million dollars in paychecks. An actress, if molested, can walk away and reject the pressure. If she gives in to the offered intercourse and takes the money, it's just an exchange qui pro quo. Literally any worker gets abusive behaviour from their bosses. It's rare the contrary. I had to quit my job more than once. And I am not a woman. But if you stay, perform the blow job, get the part and the millions, then you cannot say you have been raped. All you can say is it did not taste good. You took the money, it's square and even. Soldiers on the frontline gets PTSD. Do not dare comparing highly paid prostitution with losing your limbs while defending your country for 15 dollars / hour. Any honest woman would have refused to perform what requested and just walked away. Enough with this woke absurd victimism. Exploited women are in Somalia, Iran, Afghanistan. In America, it's just overpaid, entitled, privileged drama queens. Often, as we have seen in court recently, they are the real abusers.
I agree!! Every women in this movies career suffered due to Harvey and they played AMAZING!! Literally Uma, Lucy and Daryl fucking outshined the male stars and carried the movie and made it what it was. Shit, even Vivica was memorable and they only appeared in the beginning
@snicker576 yeah. She was in a car accident because of him, and almsot died. Besides he blamed Roman Polanski victim of a rape 13 year old girl saying she wanted to have it. And he hang out with Harvey
This is one of the most famous Movies in history.. Dont think its underrated ^^ Nearly everyone knows it Ive seen all of his Movies and in my opinion its right behind PF
I love how O-Ren Ishii disrespects Beatrix by unsheathing her katana before the fight begins. A sheathed blade allows an element of surprise, because it hides which style the swordsman will use. An unsheathed katana is called a "dead blade" because it has lost that advantage. What O-Ren did was the equivalent of fighting an enemy with a hand tied behind your back. I don't know if they did that intentionally or if they just did it for the visuals, but the diss felt real! 😆
The photography in this scene should have been a lot better. This scene deserves the very best. It still has its own merits thou. Our very fine director wasn't trained as a photographer of course like Stanley Kubrick was. I still love his movies. I have both their movie posters on my walls. Two different sensibilities.
@diddymuck Watch the Tarantino interviews. He didn't steal anything - the entire point of the film is that literally everything is a reference to another classic (or less than classic!) film. Tarantino's the biggest film nerd in history & he specifically wanted to pay homage to all the films he grew up with. Hatori Hanzo is actually a character from a japanese TV show and if I remember right that's the same actor in the film playing him!! There's a world of difference between theft and homage.
@@brianmerritt5410 I take your point, but no, homage isn't stealing, it's a small reference to pay thanks to the people whose work influenced this new work. There's no attempt or intention to pass it off as an original idea, in fact, the very point of homage is to be a signal to anyone that knows that this intentionally there to make you think of someone the creator admires. If it were stealing it would be like leaving an IOU behind with all your contact info on it. All creative endeavours are derivative, we all stand on the shoulders of giants, as the saying goes. Homage is no more than a tip of the hat to those that came before. I'll admit, there's a big grey area around Fair Use of which homage is a part, but there's FAR better discussions on this all over RU-vid, so I'll let the experts take it from here...
Its a shirasaya, used to contain the blade for storage. Not for fighting. The fact that she is using a sword with a slippery handle and no guard implies that she is very good with her swordplay
@@thisisme2476 also I love the fact that she could have just run away while Beatrix is busy with the guards, but being someone who had her revenge, Oren knew she deserved to die at the end and she kinda accepted her fate.
@@user-ft3ul5lp6z Indeed. No one would use a blade without a guard unless the one using it had perfected the art of swordplay. A true testament to how skilled and deadly she was
