Kill, Shigekix, Pocket vs Skill Methodz | Silverback Open 2015 | UDEFtour.org x Strife | Top 32 

+Dub sys At the end. Kill didn't land his airbaby clean, and lost a point. That's why Skill Methodz took it.

+Dub sys Pockets and Kills Toprocks of course xD

+Dub sys don't tell me u are a bboy

+Cheenou Vang well by that logic luigi should have lost his team several points with his first set crashing even on his footwork, skill methods were good but not near kill,shikegix,and pockets lvl

+Dub sys They lost because Kill ran his entire set the previous day. Did he think no one would remember?

LawkSam Thats facts. Wanna be friends?

Essence of a b boy ? Lol. All he does is mock people.... But his skill set can't back up his arrogance. Just relies in imitating old school style.

@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 long time ago Steadyrock crew has made a poster that said breaking is a war-like dance style and make ur opponent look bad. That is why burn is so important and flearock rocked it.

@@thanhhung8438 and ? Who cares, anybody can do burns . But you have to back it up with skill level.

@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 of course anybody can do burn. But how you phrase the burns to deliver context, meaning and battle attitude . Plus it is a part of culture and thats why lawksaw said flea is essence of a bboy. Skill is important but not always about the difficult moves, there are forms, creativity, concept, musicality too right?

+bboydrae ya Luigi lost the control like on 2010 against Knuckleheads-cali

+bboydrae Shit, I wonder what happened, that was really hard to watch. Maybe he got dizzy idk

+angelocal honestly, judging how he landed, he probably knocked the wind out of himself

+Cypher402 sure thing tough guy... Lol!!!!

+Cypher402 Same goes for you, if you're ever in LA.

+Michael Niven Okay, then let's say that Kill's round is even and Shigekix loses his round. Then we can work out that Pocket lost his round, hence the tiebreaker. I'm not for tiebreakers, but the decision for a tie isn't so ridiculous that I can't understand it.

But they lost tho.

+The Long Story lol we dont fuckin care, kill should have won

+Michael Niven 8 crashes by luigi and skill method still won...

It's not like it used to be right? Now its who is most popular who wins, not who is better.

Kill said ' 기주야(pocket) 내가 나가서 춤춰도 되겠니?' Kill's move best but judges fuck. Kill은 완벽했지만 심사가 문제다. + Pocket이 나가서 확실히 그 라운드를 가져왔으면 좋았겠다. 라는 인터뷰를 했음.

+Not Another Channel Name at first i think it shouldnt be judges from the land where one team comes from. the "old school" bboys can be judges as well in my opinion but they should know the new stuff. so if an old judge knows the new stuff, the old stuff, can feel the 'spirit' and motivation of the dancer and so on he can still judge in my opinion, but wtf why won skill methodz ?!

couldn't agree more, just started to bboy again about 2 years ago, and seeing all the favorites the judge give to others is just childish

Honestly, I think most bboy competitions are a joke. I just like to dance for the love of it. I'll take battling in a cypher over this.

Kaï MSQ You trying to say Pocket, Shigekix and Kill lost this because their opponents were better no chance?

+Kaï MSQ The fact that you think that your opinion is much more credible than his means you have a lot to learn about life.

You're telling me that these Korean bboys who are international winners in so many battles are WORSE than Skill Methodz simply because they lost 1 battle? You're telling me you know why the judges voted the way they do? If not than you probably shouldn't tell anyone who is worse or not.

+Kaï MSQ you talk about american bboys having fresh sets, which is false because Kid david is one of the most repetative bboy in the game, you know for sure that he will go into jackhammers in all of his sets. And SKMZ sets are pretty much the same as pre 2008 except for luigi who pretty much is the only one who is creative enough in that crew(besides cloud) to create new stuff from time to time. BTW i´m not saying SKMZ suck or anything like that what im trying to say is that american bboys are very hypocritical when it comes to originality/freshness and style. They act as if they are dope as fuck when in reality the rest of the world has taken bboying over and american bboys are left behind stagnating and become more and more irrelevant except for the 5%(vicious victor,gravity, moy etc......)

+Kaï MSQ Yes comparing to kills vast arsenal of moves that he uses and kid davids 5 moves and maybe 3 freezes that he repeats by mixing in footwork and the same toprock then yes kid david is more repetitive then kill,pocket and shigekix. what makes kid david dope is his style and musicality not his "vast array of moves" that is why he did not go any further in redbull bc one 2012 because he ran out of moves in the quarter finals and started repeating.

And he didn't even get rewarded for it 😒

Lol what are you talking about. Skill methodz was better in originality. Asian team just powermove and no footwork.

+Kanklesisgod "First we need to stop having oldschool bboys judge battles like this. No disrespect but they aren't up to date with new shit transitions moves styles etc. You need only pro level bboys judging big battles I'm sorry" Okay. I see your point, but that was a little stupid. The right thing would be a complete bboy, no need to be a new school bboy, old school bboys know the essence and foundation, powermoevs too. What makes me cringe is seeing bboys commenting like "yo Kill won he did the dopest and hardest moves" it's not about what what you do, but how you do, it's a dance. Nothing against Kill, massive respect cause he is mad fucking dope, and i agree that Shigekix, Pocket and Kill won but saying that old school bboys don't know shit is absolutely stupid.

THIS IS WAR !

Yes.. I was thinking same thing

Nah just Pocket. Kill is from a korean crew called Gamblerz and Shigekix is from Japan. They're not as dope as MoO but they're still an incredibly stacked team

Marce D'Amato Mntgr its a battle, he can shake his hand after

Moses Mbemba A battle must have respect as well.

I know im late but thats the thing in bboying battle mentality and respect in the end of the battle

Ritchy Bad Eff yea so um how’s that theory been working out for you last year? The only USA bboys who really won anything were victor, thesis and monster energy crew. I think it’s you who are the biased piece of shit (btw not American)

Go call out the judges then talk shit in front of them

+bboykiddblack Never that. Where was the robbery ???

All over luigis crashes and short rounds, all over that dope 90 kill banged in the tie breakers against luigis very messy round, all over the clearly higher difficulty of the asians moves while they were still clean. Im a stylish bboy but neither side was killin it with flava or musicality so in this case you give it to the harder and cleaner moves, skillmethodz got smooooooked badly, i was sitting right there this was robbery

bboykiddblack Nah !!! You're being a bit delusional. Luigi was the only sloppy one. Did you notice that the only one's synching their moves to the music we're venum, Flea, and Shigekix ??? Pocket had difficult moves but was never on beat nor did he end his sets with a clean freeze ( on beat ) like he usually does. Off of one round where Kill did one consecutive move clean ( threading 90 )and ended his set with a sloppy freeze and you still think they deserved the win afterwards ?? The way I saw it it shouldn't have even gotten to tie breaker. And the tie breaker should have gone at least another round. At this point in time where the level of difficulty is at the highest there is no room for any small mistakes or, give the victory to another group simply because they did the harder, flashy moves. Thats a judging format of the 90's era where everybody was creating and innovating. It doesn't necessary work on this level of competition. Salaam !

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the best bit ever 5:30=ying yang technique

because kill knows it's useless to reply with something agressive, especially to flea rock... actually , i agree with him! he knows talking to flea rock is not necessary u know? see that hand signal around 1:00, he was more like "u'll get smoked", and that's happened i mean he prefered acting than talking. kill is not someone like "bla bla bla,biter,bla bla bla,middle finger,bla bla bla.."

damn u racist!!! jp lol yea they killed it

Антон Топорихин The crowd didn’t peep at his comment...he was being a dick

He crashed, not as badly as his first round, but he crashed lol. And when you compare that with Kill's critical air chair variation (original AND powerful) and banging out those 90s like that, no way tiebreaker goes to SKMZ

@@iancrane5705 still, my point is Luigi's round was not weak. It really can go both way depending on what criteria each judge focus.

​@@iancrane5705 and I don't spot where luigi crashed in the last round, the round wasn't his smoothest but really didn't have a crash I guess? but I mean if u have to say he crashed, then Kill also messed up that airbaby.

i know only this. BOMB THE BASS -Megablast (Hip Hop On Precinct 13)

@@bboysj797 thank you man

+Boom Hayer Flea rock: "he did the same thing yesterday"