@@thomasneal9291 well, if they got everything, yeah. But it seems they only got the end so we didn’t really see them make the kill. Or they are not showing us.
It's possible to request footage, however they are using it for their research, so it wouldn't all be likely shared until they finished learning from it. I agree seeing all the footage would be interesting, but don't forget how much empty footage people have to sort through when filming wildlife :) No commentary though? I appreciate it, since it's hard to tell the orca apart, or know their research history.
@J C The Chinese finning of sharks for shark fin soup, just as every kinds of overfishing, is a threat to the Orcas population, along with it being a threat to the Orcas way of life.
@@jor-el1298 Not at all, since Orcas most of the time hunt only one shark, while Chinese fishermen's kill millions. That is having a big problem on the Transient Orcas way of life, since sharks are the prey of the Transient orca.
Humans are without a doubt and Giant Squids probably have something say about that as well along with full grown great whites and any other toothed whale. Orca's only real advantage is they hunt in packs but so do Dolphins.
@@LavitosExodius sperm whales eat giant squid so squid are definitely not top of the food chain. Orcas also have very high intelligence which makes them a formidable predator
@@LavitosExodius I think you’ll find that Orcas are now considered to be moving higher than the white shark, squid including the massive Humboldt don’t prey on Orca. Orca have also learned that if they get a white shark on its back it goes into tonic immobility, once other Orca learn how to do this the white shark will be in serious trouble
Wow, orcas are brutal, powerful hunters. There was this theory since 1997 (Farallon Islands incident) that orcas relied on tonic immobility to handle great white sharks. Not the case here. One orca just came up from underneath to a fully alert and moving great white and bit right into him, resulting in blood pouring out into the waters. This footage suggests that great whites may actually be an easy target for Killer Whales, posing little to no threat to their safety. Possibly a reason they hunt them. Other prey may be harder to catch or even fight back. Great whites are neither and it looks like orcas have discovered (and are transmitting culturally) that they are among the easiest low risk sources of energy rich nutrition.
@@asshat1607 Not that a GW shark isn't armed to defend itself. It just doesn't have the mind set and situational awareness to understand the threats posed by orcas. If Avatar like technology was available and a person commandeered GWS body, it could certainly make a better go at fending off the orcas --> I would just break off circling and tear right into one, opening my mouth as wide as possible and sinking into a fin or flank. Might be enough to deter their attack.
He is correct, it poses zero threat to an orca… Intelligence and nearly twice the weight. Come on man, that’s basic physics…think of the kinetic energy alone getting slam fucked by shamu
And its proof (as was also noted in two other witnesses encounters) that great white sharks have no inbuilt inherent fear of orcas and do not flee on sight, sound and scent of them.
I love the idea that Orcas discovered tonic immobility. How cool that if you turn a shark on it's back, it goes to sleep, you can make a slit in it's belly, suck out the liver, & be on your way, no sweat. Then I saw a video of an autopsy done on one of the Great Whites that washed up on our Cape beaches. When the 3 ton orca turned the 1 ton Orca upside down, it was not a gentle process. When it flipped the shark, it's entire pectoral girdle was torn dislocated, terribly damaged. That shark would have been in no condition to do anything purposeful to defend itself further. Perhaps you guys know this video & could review it
@@Zion66666 Oh they're definitely not pea brain. and Definitely, and I mean DEFINITELY nothing like how the media portrays them. They are very curious animals which why they tend to do taste bites on unfamiliar objects (humans included) to see if they are edible. They also have a complex social structure, with a matriarchal hierarchy determined by size. and while they're usually solitary creatures, they also would turn to socializing if needed.
When they were juveniles, they had to use those tactics. As full grown adults, they have little to fear. (White sharks are still pretty big juveniles though haha)
i watched a different report a couple of years ago about orcas being filmed for the first time preying on a great white shark off the coast of california. those orcas used very similar techniques as these orcas. and they also went for the shark's liver. after the attack, great white sharks weren't seen in the area for quite some time. i'm wondering if the widely separated groups of orcas learned this technique by being passed down across orca populations, or if each group learned it completely independently.
I believe it is the Farallon Islands, off the coast of San Francisco that has a USA Marine research place _(I can't honestly remember!)_ where the white sharks flee for a month or so when Orca appear.
Most Orcas that prey on sharks and rays, have worked out that they go into a catatonic state when turned upside down and are therefore defenceless, plus great white can also be downed, if held still for a certain period of time. If the sharks were smarter, their best strategy would be to dive as deep as possible and hug the sea floor and swim out to the open ocean.
@@lexuslfa4739 I agree, but the tactic is to ram the shark from underneath, grab it and turn it over. If your on the sea floor, this isn’t possible, plus Orcas can only hold their breath for about 10-15 minutes, although they would get around this by swapping out with each other. The sharks best hope is to just make it as much of a pain in the arse to kill it as possible in the hope that the Orcas will lose interest. It’s not going to happen however, sharks just don’t have the intelligence to outwit Orcas.
@@lexuslfa4739 , Orcas don't dive very deep. Sperm whales do though. I wonder if they also prey on sharks. They're certainly big enough and have serious teeth.
yeah that's what i don't get it ... such a solitude creature, but how do they broadcast this info among themself so quickly ... i couldnot call my family around with phone that quick
@@EMB3D There is so much we don't understand if the natural world . We as humans feel we are the only being sentient creature on the planet and that appears completely false . Even insects may grasp the concept.
there is another video here on youtube that shows sharks scamming when they smell shark liver after the kill. its the smell. a few drops in the water and they high tail it out of there.
@@lemonmoose5090 i read, that the smell of blood (therefor i assume the smell of liver) is overrated, and they don't sense it from many kilometers away (in fact half or a mile a mile max) ... still, all the neighbor capitulates. there must be something else beyond smell ... but anyway, i just speculate, i check out the video, thanks
That is an astonishing sight to behold! Let it sink in just how rare it is for us to see something like this in action. Orcas truly are the wolves of the sea.
Never in my life I thought a predator like the Great White shark would become prey. The Orca changed the all that by out smarting them being bigger faster and agile.
Oddly enough they seem to have a fear of the smaller Pilot Whale themselves. Seems as though everything has at least something to worry about our there....unless you're a Blue Whale or Sperm Whale I suppose.
Very interesting to see this behavior in both the white sharks and the orcas. The predatory nature of the orcas is amazing. The way the hunt in pods and take turns is very impressive and quite efficient. The hunter is being hunted. But both species are very intelligent and also misunderstood. I really enjoy learning about the both of them. Thanks for sharing this video!
This was fascinating footage. I liked how the article that this video was linked to, made it seem like this was something new. This has been happening for a while, but it seems to be the first time recorded, which I didn't know. Still, this was amazing to see.
@@Salman-Bin-Ahmed You don't know that. This may be novel behavior due to the complete collapse of the marine ecosystems now very deeply in progress. We now know *for a fact* that oceanic animal biomass is a fraction of what it used to be just a hundred years, even decades ago. In fact, apex predators preying on apex predators is NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR.
Waiting for the "First time recorded trans Killer Whales kill White Sharks" Followed by the converse "First time recorded Killer Whales kill trans White Sharks"
Intelligence is the answer they are self aware after all meaning they recognise themselves in a mirror just like dolphins because they are the ultimate dolphin. They probably know we are meant to be intelligent and we are not worth it for them
None of the above. While we might like to believe some myth about respect for our position in the food chain, the reality is simply that orcas don’t come into water shallow enough to encounter humans. While they’re famous for beaching themselves while hunting seals, that’s an unique behavior in isolated areas by specific pods. Otherwise in large part due to their size, they simply don’t come in close enough to run into swimmers, and likewise swimmers rarely swim in water deep enough to see orcas. Sharks are quite a different story - the vast majority of shark bites are by other than Great Whites and in shallow water.
@@Pupda I've seen plenty of videos of people getting into the ocean and swimming alongside orcas so your statement makes no sense at all. And orcas are one of the large predators that do come into the shallows 4-7ft deep to hunt seals near the Falkland Islands and they even beach themselves off the coast of South America to catch seals. Thought you would know all this and these are just the orcas we have documented doing this likely more with different hunting techniques we don't even know about.
Thanks -- good video. A similar phenomenon was reported off the Farallon Islands, 6 years ago. The orcas would attack sharks from behind, inverted, then seizing the sharks' pectoral fins. The orca would then right itself, causing the upside down shark to slip into a state of tonic immobility after about a minute. A few vigorous shakes would dislodge the liver. The liver is high in fat and quite nutritious, so why eat the rest? Some grizzly bears just eat the salmon roe, if they're already full.
i think its more like: surfer, "yeah, that's what you get! Team orca! Woo!" because orca is human friendly (except for rare incident when orca killed human accidentally in seaworld)
Amazing how they get together for their own benefit. Orcas are one of the greatest depredators that exist. They killed whales and white shark despite their size and ways of defense. Incredible!
Drooping dorsal fins can happen in the wild due to intestinal parasites , ingestion of plastic blocking food , old age, oil spills , injury, net entanglement & subsequent escape and genetic deformity etc
There's a company in Mosselbay that take tourists out to dive with sharks. The people dive in a cages and the sharks are fed to attract them so that the tourists can have the experience under water. This attracts sharks that would not necessarily be in the area.
To my understanding, a droopy dorsal fin means that they are depressed, and usually only occurs when held captive. I’ve never seen it in the wild before, and I think it’s strange, and interesting, in this specific context.
This is a pair of male Orcas preying on Great White sharks in this area. Both of them have collapsed dorsal fins, probably due to age. They are named Starboard and Port. The names refer to direction in which the dorsal fin is collapsed. Starboard is the one making a kill in this video. It's conjectured that they are older males which have trouble catching fast, intelligent sea mammals and have taken to hunting Great Whites instead
I believe it is the Farallon Islands, off the coast of San Francisco that has a USA Marine research place _(I can't honestly remember!)._ Regardless of the place, all year, researchers study the white shark and seal interactions. And every year, when the white sharks suddenly disappear _(And they do so for some months.),_ the researchers know that Orca is about.
No, they leave due to ORCAS being there. This is DOCUMENTED. The months they stay in the Farallons are September to November; but let just one orca happen to be in the vicinity and they all ghost the area….they vanish. Well ahead of their normal schedule. Educate yourself.
@@waynetables6414 Actually there was a report from a fisherman of San Francisco in the 1990s who witnessed a large great white shark attacking an estranged orca calf.
those orcas hunt great white sharks for a living it's a tough life. the limp fin happens in nature too just not nearly as frequently as in captivity and not for the same reasons
Thank you for the video, very interesting to see this behavior, especially since you would think a white shark would at least try to defend itself and not just try to avoid the Orca. The video mentions adult-to-adult learning between the Orcas. I just saw a story yesterday (I don't remember the exact area) about Orcas sinking boats and teaching other Orcas how they did it. That would really be amazing if true. I do have a question about the two main Orcas in this video, Port and Starboard. I was reading an article about this specific encounter that had this video in it. In the article, it was explained the names were given to these two Orcas because their dorsal fins droop to their sides, one to the Port, and one to the Starboard. If I remember correctly, when the Sea World debacle with their Orcas was making headlines, one of the things brought up about Orcas was their dorsal fins only drooped for Orcas in captivity. It was stated this did not happen in the wild. So, the obvious question here is why do these two wild Orcas have drooping dorsal fins?
Orcas are bigger, heavier and more intelligent than sharks. All they need to do is ram into the shark, overturn it and it is game over for the shark. Sharks aren't as intelligent as Orcas but they aren't that stupid to take an Orca on.
Now I know why I love orcas so much! Delphinidae, largest member of the dolphin family💕🐬 would love to read any findings on dolphin behaviour regarding defending the school from sharks.
Good. “Mistaking “ humans for food is a poor excuse for mindless killers (sharks). Orcas are capable of thought and assessment. Highly intelligent. Orcas also don’t attack humans. Orcas are the apex predators of the ocean . Glad to see they’re keeping the shark population in control.
Those Orcas are bad boys. Getting into a close-range staring match with a Great White before one of your buddies comes and jukes it from underneath, pops out the liver onto the surface for the alpha bad boy to scoop up. Awesome.
It really is. I grew up in that area and met many of the Great whites there over the years. Beautiful creatures and they are being destroyed by these two intruders.
Rare to see, but is it really all that surprising that three Orcas are able to easily kill what looks to be an 8 foot juvenile Great White shark with minimal effort?
Fascinating footage indeed. The crappiness of editing it’s also fascinating! Show the freaking footage and then do a detailed explanation or something but show the freaking thing!
They KNOW. Think about that. Imagine that there are things on earth that are way smarter than humans, we are just too stupid to understand just how smart they are. Image if whales ruled the earth as humans do, but the world was covered with water. Image the whales keeping us on tiny islands and making us do things like swim in water and play water volleyball. Image how whale families would come and watch us play while being amazed at how we were able to swim with no flippers. Imagine. We don't have the brain power to understand just how stupid we are in the scheme of earth. Imagine.
Well to be honest it’s kinda hard not to in these instances since the liver of a great white just about takes up half of its insides soo it’s not like fining the pineal gland in a brain or something
@@giuliana6290 yeah that's true, livers in general are huge. But from other footage I've seen there are usually open wounds right where a liver would be and just big enough to remove it. They seem to know to go for just the liver.
There’s nothing brutal about them, I’m fairly sure they aren’t thinking about punishing a shark or conscious about how it might feel getting chased and eaten.
@Savvyforcrypto Sharks are other times known to kill humans when they smell them urinating, or bleeding underwater, while not once has an Orca kill a Human in the wild.
@@ShiningGalaxy01 yea I know that lol. I know orcas haven’t killed humans in the wild from what I know. Only in captivity but I’d probably kill if I was held in a tank. I understand sharks have killed people. Just saying most people only see the orcas from places like sea world or from movies like free Willy lol. I understand they gotta eat and what not but damn the way they play with seals and pups is just insane. I’m sure their are other species out there that do that but I always though ah they just go and kill and eat. I thought I read or seen a vid somewhere that they play up to 30 min with the pups/seals. I guess brutal wasn’t the word to use. Ferocious maybe 🤔
This phenomenon could explain the extinction of the Megalodon. Eating the small fry of the big fish who couldn't expect teamwork like this . Excellent stuff ! Great knowledge factoid !
NOT "The world's first aerial footage of killer whales pursuing white sharks" as the video reads... The first time was in the mid 90's when the LA pod member CA-2 was filmed killing a great white off the coast of California (which was assumed as defensive/ protective of a possible calf nearby). It was later confirmed that there had been no calf present, and the orca was feeding... Specifically on the shark's liver. It was unique as the pod was a transient pod only known for hunting mammals, unlike offshores, which do eat sharks. This orca became well known for her feeding maneuvers and may have been responsible for a mass exodus of sharks from the seal-hunting grounds off the coast of California with some sharks venturing as far away as Hawaii and for as long as 4+ years.
Question about the data... with the exception of 2022-05-22 the drone flew much further distances before the predation, which should increase the odds of identifying more sharks per flight. Was the distance/area flown controlled in some manner? If not, the observed drop in sharks per flight after predation is misleading.
Hi John - the drone flights were a little random by a hobbyist plot - not systematic scientific surveys. So indeed the effort is a little variable - in the paper we address this effort difference in effort. But even with that variation there is a striking lack of sharks, which his further supported by shark- boats chumming and the movements of a satellite tagged shark away from the area which had been resident for weeks prior.
Thanks for the comment - it’s a common misconception that bent dorsal fins only happen in captivity. It is seen in the wild also - but not often. Port and starboard , the two killer whales which are known to feed in shark in South Africa have not previously been in captivity but are unusual in that both have bent dorsals. It’s possible this is related to injury or diet , but we can only speculate at this stage. To keep up with our findings on these and many more marine animals , please do subscribe to the sea search channel!
My understanding is that they are eating livers for the minerals and not the calories. This is also why they kill something like one-third of grey whale calves and only eat their tongues.
I do not think that he was trying to avoid them. On the contrary, this shark did not see killer whales before, and the evidence for that is that he did not feel afraid of them, and this explains his slow rotation around them, as if he was trying to prey on them. If he was really trying to avoid them, we would have seen him running away from them very quickly.
Orcas are amazing. You can see them quite a lot up here in the Puget Sound. They have been called the wolves of the sea as they behave in a similar manner. More importantly, a Great White is a threat to a human while an Orca is not.
For now, but when Orca's run out of Great Whites, we may be next on the menu.... Don't kid yourself, Orcas are wild, smart and have no allegiance to humans.
Hmmm... I wouldn't want to be in close proximity to killer whales in water. There aren't a lot of cases where orcas have attacked humans - I think because orcas have better eye-sight, but hey \😒/ who knows. The point is that mammals are on the menu of both great white sharks as well as killer whales, which means both could potentially kill a human.
The first video I saw about this a year or so ago? it was 2 brother orcas teaming up together to kill the shark. Only one had a curved fin. One flipped the shark in the air while the other caught it.
