Killing Joke - European Super State 

"everything" - 'outside the gate' ?, KJ (2005)?, ' Hosannas...'? .....

Yes@@andchat6241

​​@@andchat6241 outside the gate and hosannas are both masterpieces, back to front. The only subpar KJ albums are Fire Dances, the selftitled and MMXII. Paul Ferguson is an amazing drummer but I will forever see him as an imbecile for his comments about Outside the Gate.

@@andchat6241 The only one I can do without is Brighter Than A Thousand Suns. The rest range from amazing to decent.

Ben parceque tout simplement il sont-ils les fondateur de la démocratie il faut leur faire Payer

If Ukraine had been in NATO Russia would never have attacked them. Now all of Europe is having to re-arm and even Finland and Sweden chose to join. NATO is not wonderful, but clearly group protection is sadly necessary. Plato can't protect anyone. Fuck Putin.

@@richardhoyau936 réponse très pertinente ! en effet ...

Born in 1955 ... best band in world history ....

Born in 62 - the best band in 1980-81 and still incredible. Makes my spine tingle every time.

Europe is more unite now, demanding respect is something you will wait long. I was against EU, simply because corruption. Where is democracy, it nurses corruption. Still between Yankees and Russia, China, we are "caretakers of democracy". Everywhere are funds for armsrace, still I feel apathy cos we don't avoid future as dystopian hell. This kind of naive attitude is dangerous. War is possible, 10 points for Putin waking up our politicians, sleepwalkers. Foreigners cheers worlds happiest nation. Finland. Happy finn is impossible thing. I had truckloads of medicine, and I felt once happyness for while, to tell doctors fuck off. That kind of thinking cost me lot. Enemies from Doctors and many social workers are next to god, and I have balls to tell what I think of my medication. As I don't have right to decide about that. In Finland we have long history of blindly acceptance and newer asking why. It is taken as insult. Asking why in school made me trouble child, whitch punk-attitude made me of its nature. Some people feared wearing and listen Kaaos, Riistetyt, Terveet Kädet. Fearing to be independent also keeps you close authorities, and they are rulers and ruled by choosing be that. I once thought that resistance is futile in finnish politics simply because lack of people who really understand what you are saying. Anti-depressants for teenagers, amphetamines for child who wants to shake these mummys up and scream: I see Finland as "yesmen" paradise, I want to do what makes noise and raises debat Finland have doping program for happiness. Medicine to individualism and this is big but false by forced medication. Lobotomy is nowdays out of ammunitions arsenal. You can't even defend youself when you are doped to false sensation of democracy, and cannot feel difference of apathy and wisdom. TV upholds racism and fear. Fear of Russians and psychiatry bills, medication. If I have guts to be drug and medicine reseller, Finland. State is giving wealth away. And how much here remember Winter War.. those men died for this?? Nobody talks veterans no more, it stopped like knive cut. 1 alive can ruin career of medicalisation, socialworkerfasists, but seems every veteran is dead. Idiocy is rampant, I have by this great enemies. But they waits you fear and respect them. That is not gonna happen. Finland is good country but leaders are something to resist by listening interwievs of Jaz Coleman. Nothing so new, words of wisdom!! I quess here it is politics who claim, it's a terrorist. My quess, neo-nazi party is now opposition, but this is gonna change. This must be stopped, last time 50 million people died of by lies. We need another, and last conflict? It will force itself to power, simply fear of been laughed at. To debatting about discrimination, there is nothing to afraid. Now you say something... Discrimination of political thoughts is way more hard to defend. So I tell our middle-class children first time, I quess? It stands UN human rights, Finland is Belarus state, knowing human rights first place. Common question in school was: do I have those rights too? In suburb where I was born mid-70, revolution was the policy. Punk was counter-revolutionist individualism and it must stopped. It was facism by some puppet state of CCCP, and saying that is near trason. Welcome worlds happiest corner, by doping methods, just add for I beeing speakin true when it is even not necessary. Authority loves me to silencing as they inustry depends from. Medicines!!!

I think you are right. Europa becomes a super state, trying to imitate the USA and in this they completely fail.

a spiritual teacher called Robert Powell described the flag as being stars without the sun....there is a sense of it subverting the synarchic ideal by negating/omitting what should be the spiritual underpinnings of such a union, ie, betraying the spiritual ideal of a united Europe by making it primarily political/industrial/financial rather than spiritual/cultural/intellectual -

What we got was an antidemocratic, neoliberal nightmare. These artificial centralised power structures never work out

yes countries genuinely collaborating

synth pop is not an easy genre to nail, respect

Not saying they're ripping anything off, but that synth sound is very similar to the German band Escape with Romeo.

arse

sounds like a good wine

Not a patch on their Early 80s output.

Since the 80s they are relevant....always political sarcasm....

Ma stai zitto 🤔

Δυστυχώς ακόμα εκκλησία και κράτος δεν έχουν διαχωριστεί. Το χειρότερο απ΄όλα είναι ότι κανείς δεν τολμά να το επιχειρήσει. Άρα αυτή η εικόνα είναι πέρα για πέρα αληθινή και όντως λυπηρή.

Been relevant for more than 40 years. 😁

Just find out who you can't criticize

@@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 I can tell by your grammar that you're actually English lol. And if you haven't noticed, Trump has been giving fellatio to your Supreme Leader Putin for 3 years. And To Mr. Lunev, sarcasm is a thing.

Richard Sauve you can tell by my grammar I’m English? I’m Welsh.

Gotta love a bit of Novachik hey Johnny. Very democratic, mills everyone.

Kills, not mills

@@andrewmcdonald5704 you're talking about Novichok? I wonder how a military-grade mass poison weapon fails to kill Skripal and Navalny. Best real-world guess - it was a hoax.

I totally agree....my discovery of them was about 41 years ago. And they still are perfect.

new twist, they're FOR it

@@marshmallowbudgie I wouldn't say they're for globalism. More for a sort of European empire.

"It doesn’t really matter about Trump because the Deep State, which is the Pentagon and the geo-political strategy of America, it’s still being run by neo-conservatives. You know, they promised Gorbachev they would not expand NATO - they have expanded NATO. We’re getting ready to take over the world (the West), you know, by controlling the weather, by spraying the air. By basically pushing countries into debt and taking away all their wealth. Giving them loans - the IMF and the rest of it. It’s being done, it’s one big global takeover. You know TPP - the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. These were thirty-five chapters of trade agreements that no-one was allowed to see. You’d never be able to take any corporation to court after this - you’d never be able to sue any corporation after this huge ‘trade deal’. But it’s not a trade deal - it’s a takeover. Once you take over a country’s food and water supplies, basically you’ve taken over that country. If you corporatize everything, then you have the corporations controlling everything and that’s the state we’re in. If that’s OK with you, well then, those are your views. The other alternative is to put your life on the line and be prepared to die for an alternative. Silence gives consent." - Jaz Coleman

正しい

Punk rock New wave et techno

Maior banda de todos os tempos.

Influenciaram monstros como Nine Inch Nails e até Metallica... Os Nirvana fizeram um rip off descarado no seu hit "come as you are" da musica "80s"... Algo falhou no marketing deles... Terem tido problemas com a editora acho que ajudou a nao serem reconhecidos...

you damn right mate i tell you

Nope. No Yanks in sight, see, all the tropes are in the scope of WWI, silly, silly son, with chlorine gas and men in masks, and that was done for the divisi-ons, and the council of wealth in fight and fright, acting in their stealth, until war is right for those who worship Might while optioning to get to the choppa...[I leave it for wiser folks to finish while I drink my imported grappa...]

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I think it is much better than love like blood.

True, however mainstream radio stations wouldnt dare play this, particularly in the UK for fear of people taking it as an anti EU anthem via Brexit. Anyone whom voted for Brexit, no matter how sound their reasoning was imediately labeled racist.

This one is indeed better

Europe becomes a super state, don't worry.

It means what the lyrics say. I don't see any ambiguity.

I went ahead and read an interview from 2010 about their album in which they say they they're all "supporters of the eurpean ideal". So yeh song is pro EU.

You have no idea who Kalergi was, do you?

Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi (1894-1972) was an Austrian-Japanese politician, philosopher, and writer. He is known for his role in advocating for European integration and is considered one of the early pioneers of the idea of a united Europe. In 1922, he founded the Pan-European Union, an organization aimed at promoting European unity and cooperation. Coudenhove-Kalergi believed that a unified Europe was necessary to maintain peace and prevent future conflicts. He envisioned a Europe that transcended national boundaries and promoted cultural exchange and understanding. His ideas gained attention and support from various political and intellectual figures of the time. Coudenhove-Kalergi laid out his vision for a united Europe in his book "Pan-Europa" published in 1923. He received the first-ever Charlemagne Prize in 1950, recognized for his contribution to European unity and peace.

Kick rocks, pinko@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts

@@extramedium3920 And everything you just wrote is supposed to be a bad thing because...?

do you understand this is a pro EU song?

@@bonaz11 How can that be if the EU is dominated by lobbyists, financial institutions and big corporations? That is everything that KJ stand against.

@@jeroenarends5234 Because you can both love the idea of something but despise the reality of it.

brexit still so great? Only because the EU is far from perfect leaving is a bad idea imo it would be better to reform it because imo the eu right now is little more then a free trading zone.

Yes, we can!!!