We shouldn’t care more about a dress than human lives but this made news at one point and people still talk about it… but no fck the starving, sick, struggling and unwell to keep up with this cheap family
The Monroe dress was owned by Ripleys Believe it or Not after winning it in an auction and lent to Kim K after Kris called to complain. The worlds of collecting, selling, donating, and displaying art are so vast and complex with their own politics within each world. Unfortunately things of value gets lost throughout time due to lack of care or education, lack of finance and individual selfish agendas
@@maddylee5607 So Ripley's, Instead of standing their ground and tell Chris *WHY* Kim can't wear it, gave into the pressure. I pray that gown went to the hands of a skilled restoration person who can source the same crystal beads from that era, and can reinforce the seams that was stressed using conservator's techniques similar on how they reinforce Queen Victoria's gowns for display. (edit: Fix of Queen Victoria's name. Victorian? really?)
THANK YOU i was looking for this comment - looks hideous now like some torn rags not like the beautiful siren like way it looked on a thin model vs a curvy one - not every gown is made for a curvy figure and there’s nothing wrong with that it’s just a piece of art not something sold to the masses
@@crimberliesthe designer literally made Marilyn's dress according to Marilyn's body shape and size. It wasn't made to be worn by anyone else 🫤 Edit: MOM IM FAMOUS
@@sireniral9003 i’m just trying to understand, she wanted her goods and belongings to be destroyed and buried with her ? or was it specifically against other women so they don’t enjoy her stuff after she died ? aren’t both ways narcissistic a little bit anyway .. ?
Yeah, renting it when you had a perfect replica to fit you is incredibly disrespectful. She knew it wouldn’t fit. They both have very distinct figures but they don’t match. The oyster dress? Meh. She owns it AND there’s a better kept replica in the MOMA.
@@meowwww_06 well i disagree with this statement Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you can do that 😮💨 Especially ruined historical dresses
When you have the money to buy on, then you can talk she bought it, and she can do what she wants with it. You're just a person you could die for. All she cares about is not making a difference. You can't do anything about it, so let it go. It's not a big deal. Mm is dead, and her dress is fine. It's not like she can do anything about it either so stfu
Calm down it's just a dress it's supposed to be worn There are even 2 of them so one of them is just a copy. It's the design that makes it unique and the brand can make several more it's not like a piece of art made with the artist own hands that can never be reproduced dine his dead, the seamstress that made this 2 could make a few more but then they wouldn't be exclusive and worth so much.
Well, she was made an exact replica of the monroe dress that fit her, but she still wore the original. I dont think a replica wouldve worked, unfortunately
@@libelinhaa2079 YEA BUT VERY VALUABLE AND THE ONLY ONES IN THE WORLD ARE MORE LIKE PIECES OF ART, think of it as Mona Lisa, it's the only one and original in the world Same with starry night And other very valuable artwork, like statues etc!
@@kr1s.p_alt there are 2 actually and it's not exactly like that because fabric will not last has long has a painting even when not exposed to sunlight and protected from other elements. Also you can't restore it like a painting and even those can and have been destroyed by bad restoration jobs. Btw people can read fine without caps lock 😂
@@casper3791 that of which she can do because she legally owns the dress. If an expensive beautiful dress that I owned didn’t fit me I’d alter it too, wouldn’t you?
@@bizarrekimten it's not the issue that she altered it to fit her it's the issue that she's altering extremely beautiful dresses that have been worn by incredibly known people and iconic dresses that they've worn or created. Therefore ruining the beauty behind the dresses if you don't agree you don't have to but that is my opinion and you don't have to like it
It's both. How is she not at all a problem? EDIT: Since there are a lot of idiots in the comments replying the exact same "it's her dress" let me clear up some things 1. Yeah, it's her dress so she can be held responsible for what she does to it. 2. I don't have to respect or like what she did just because she can legally do it. I think it was distasteful and dumb. 3. My comment is a reply, in response to someone saying its entirely the museum's fault.
They can’t do anything about it after all she got the money and people are doing their job but none of them have respect, she has no respect as he buys and ruins the dresses and neither do the ones who gave her the dress and support her despite damaging such historical and meaningful pieces
@@staceyvitale So they are also responsible for not getting licensed to hold on historical pieces. Their workers probably didn't even know the damage that wearing it could do, they weren't trained. You can see it by the videos where they're wearing gloves to hold the dress, even if fashion historians say it's best to hold it with your hands to do less damage. Non licensed institutions shouldn't have such pieces in the first place
It was *NOT* the Smithsonian who cares for that dress. If it were it would have never been allowed out of the museum. It's Ripleys belive it or not who does
Honestly, she’s an icon. She surpassed Paris Hilton, became one of the biggest names in fashion, and she looks good asf in those dresses. She forever changed the way people see them and that’s fucking iconic.
does she have the rights to do whatever she wants with the dress once she has bought it? yes. Should she have been able to buy it in the first place? hell na
Yet ARTIFACTS need to be cherished! U act like it's something that they can just throw away and isn't an iconic piece of beauty. Oh sure yea let's just ruin authentic art because u know fuck everyone's dreams and hard work that they put their soul into.
I mean why are people selling these "timeless peices of art" to her? This one honestly i dont understand the significance. It was made by a designer and theres just 2. Thats its. Its rare sure but in the end its art thats meant to be worn. She had it altered to fit her its not destroyed
Why cant she just have a replica made instead of destroying iconic art pieces? You wouldn't buy the Mona Lisa and have someone paint your face over hers. Her narcissism is insane
Narcissists usually don’t care enough about art to do something like that. Preserving a piece of art would mean that they wouldn’t be able to rub it in everyone’s faces how filthy rich they are.
But people especially us,girls would make fun of her. Sure not everyone but MANY would! Don’t people try to find issues w/popular people? So, people would call her cheap and lame😐😓
It's like buying a painting (lets say Monets Haystacks) and then painting over it to make it match the aesthetic of your house. You simply don't do that.
@@pieiero3006it's true that you can do whatever to the things you own. But you should know there were lots of masterpiece was ruined before they can reach the museum. The museum can't "protect" the arts if their current owner doesn't sell them or donate them to the museum.
If you own it do what you want. What you simply don't do is tell others what to do And also, it's not like that at all. The owner of the dress wanted her to wear it. You don't get a say. Get over it
Lol. I know what you mean but there's reallly no need to run. For once, people just need to kindly but firmly use the word "NO" with Kim! It's that simple.
Yes, be upset with your first world problems. It's not like there's people out there who are still dying from tuberculosis and curable diseases. But yeah you put your foot down over us a piece of cloth. It's the under the world.
What is wrong with you people. She needs to think she can ruin whatever she wants she thinks she is special she only got famous for her Sex tape and being half naked and so much fake in her body....no respect
Its not even about kim anymore. If theres only 2 of these dresses and they're as histotic and precious as made out to be.. then they shouldn't be sold.
Its absolutely about kims nasty ass! She comes and waves her checkbook to these museums and borrows these iconic dresses because shes so lame and boring that cant stand out on her own. Why is kim even relevant these days? Because she has money!
Me too. She didn’t want to be the first playmate. He used her. And then buried himself next to her. It takes the term “do anything for clout” to a whole new level. He tied his name to hers and rode that wave into the afterlife. He was a predator.
PEOPLE It’s not about the clothes, it’s about the disrespect for the original artist. It’s like buying a famous painting to paint over it. Some clothes aren’t actually meant to be worn, some are specifically designed to be art pieces. And yea, Marilyn didn’t want anyone else to wear that dress, so we should respect her wishes. It was her property, and she should be able to control what happens to it.
If she didn't want it worn she should've put it on her will. Not being an asshole but being legit. Most famous people have wills early for these types of things
Okay maybe I'm wrong here but wouldn't that be plagiarism? Art theft? Like with this newest piece, idk how the designer would have felt about her knocking it off and then wearing it on the red carpet. I grasp the issue here, I'm just saying that idk if art theft is really the answer? Especially as a celebrity who can afford originals
I think she feels extremely special when she wears these dresses no one else can, that's why she is willing to destroy these pieces of history, just to feed her own ego and self-importance.
She thinks of herself too highly there was this podcast in which Kanye says that Kim is modern day marilyn. Kim is absolutely vain yeah she’s a billionaire and really made her way but her attitude is horrible
@@capsnerd Why would you buy a dress to alter it mayorly if you have more then enough money to have that exact design outcome made on personalized size etc by any team of designers. It would similair to me Painting a Japanese anime girl on the Nachtwacht from Van Gogh if I would be able to pay for the said painting
Hell, if I had the money to afford that, you better believe I’m squeezing myself into that dress. Life is too short to be wondering about what makes other people angry
@@noladelrusso7614I'm a fan of Marilyn Monroe, and knew of the Diamond Dress. I grew up watching her old films and singing her old songs. I even have a blue dress similar to that in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (mine is much easier to walk in...lol). Many of her styles were used by dollmakers - Barbie being one - Bob Mackie has multiple limited editions with Barbie. If you look at the Jem and the Holograms line, there were many influences in colour palette, and designs. The Oyster dress is horrendously ugly. I know that McQueen "pushed boundaries" of fashion, but it's inelegant despite the meaning of it being a "female warrior emerging from beneath the battered shell". I also fail to see why no-one has mentioned the first owner, Angie Barrett, who wore the dress to The (Beaux) Art Ball at Cannes FF in 2003. Despite not being a fan of the Kardashians, WHY is everyone obsessing over a dress from the 2020 oscars? At the Met Gala, KK changed into the gown in a dressing room at the bottom of the steps, and then into a replica of the Diamond dress for the remainder of the event.
Exactly! Like, yeah Kim is acting hella weird by ruining massive pieces of recent history, but who the hell is selling these things to her or the person who bought these things for her, like… they’re enabling them to pull these sort of stunts!
She DID IN FACT have a recreation with her exact measurements of the Marilyn Monroe dress, but decided las minute to just wear the actual dress. The outrage is not just that the museum lent her the dress, but apparently they did so because she PROMISED them that she only wanted it to make a faithful replica, and obviously LIED.
She bought it, so it's within her own legal rights to do so, and many people should not really care THAT much about a stupid dress. After all, how would it even slightly affect ur life????
@@Thecouncil__1 Imagine dying. Imagine watching people take what you loved and wore, and then wearing it out, ruining it, and then calling you fat because they couldn't fit in YOUR clothes. Shall I just destroy a statue of Christopher Columbus? I mean, we would have found out about America anyways, so he wouldn't be that important, yeah? He just happened to stumble across it, and now we celebrate a day dedicated to him. Unlike Marilyn, his belongings were put in a museum. I've gone a bit far with this I have to admit, but I'm pretty damn sure you wouldn't want people messing with and breaking your stuff.
Why do people keep saying she ruined the Marilyn dress? How did she ruin it exactly? Because if you watch the episode where she wears it, you can see how meticulous she is about preserving it in its original state.
Not to Borrow is absolutely correct. Let them sell the piece. But they should not lend out museum pieces! Isn't that what a museum is for - preservation? Not ruination?
fr bro. i was mad at marilyn dress, who the hell landed it to her? they must’ve been the one who got blamed for her ruining the dress. however, this dress was her. different cases. she can do anything with this dress whether you like it or not.
@@TheLastEgg08 I get it tbh I didn't watch the end saying it was bought. But if it's something valuable like a collectors item or something historical, even if it's yours, it's not nice to destroy it. Or, as someone said, it's not ethical. (That's why museums just don't break historic pieces) I think of it as belonging to the society if when the owner (Kim) dies the item will be going to a museum. But again, she didn't ""destroy"" it, she wore it - with that giant butt of hers 😂. I still think ppl need to stop selling/lending/letting her breathe near iconic clothes.
She won't take no for an answer she's as entitled as it gets. With Marilyn's dress she said she made her mum go and demand it when they wouldn't give it to her. They use their connections
It’s honestly gross. She destroyed the Marilyn Monroe dress and and then altered another incredibly famous dress. The fact she thinks she has the right to do this is shocking to me
She shouldn't have been able to own the dress in the first place, it should have been in a museum or something. We need to stop letting rich people do whatever tf they want just because they can pay outrageous amounts to do it.
They do these outrageous and destructive things with tax money that they bilked the USA government out of. Now us normal citizens live with homelessness messes and crime because there isn’t money to take care of these sad vulnerable people. Every person in the bottom 50% of income pays a higher tax rate than her or any billionaire
😂😂 it’s a dress. Why shouldn’t she be able to own it? Its not like its stolen art from colonized countries Nor is it sacred burial grounds There’s already one in the museum. Ur focused on the wrong thing.
She should buy a dress that's been made to suit her body and not try to squeeze inside someone else's dress that's been made for their body type. RIP the Legendary dresses
I don't know why she bought the second oyster dress and then paid a 3rd party to alter it, rather than just getting in contact with the house of Alexander McQueen and getting them to make her one to her measurements. That's literally what couture is, and I can't imagine them refusing to do it for her (or do it for Kanye, on her behalf, seeing as it was a gift).
They wouldn’t have made it because the person who made it is no longer alive. It being archival I am surprised they let her have it. But fashion houses won’t just jump to remake an archival piece for anyone. They may have been okay to make something similar, but archival pieces hold their worth because they are never remade.
Ok I'm glad it wasn't just me. I was like 'That's not the Oyster Dress, the Oyster Dress is absolutely stunning...and that's a Mummy cosplay." But then it is. And I dont understand what she did.
Bro it's an dress calm down 🤓... Whyyy like whyyy everyone is so sad like someone who was owner of the dress sell this dress to her and as a owner she have fully right to do whatever she want...like why why everyone is so furious... it's just an dress😭
@@athena4658I get why your mad but if the original designer of the dress passes it down to someone, and THEY decide to sell it to Kim, it's not narcissistic... It feels wrong to you but at the same time, she didn't ruin it. She is gifted it. Just because it has a history doesn't mean it's untouchable. If you want to wear it, you have to pay for it. If Kanye gave you a dress to wear why would you not wear it? I know some people have possessions ripped away from them but Kim is not at fault. She literally just bought an expensive and historical dress. It's dumb to hate HER more than any of the resellers who want to give it away 💀
@@hueningpieim with you i dont get it either. Ohhh but the dress has a meaningful story and the designer... dude if the thing is so important why is it being sold to whoever 😅 if you made something that shouldnt be changed sell it to collectors. If i paid for something its my right to wear it to tear it to burn it if i want to thats the point of OWNING something, it gives you the right.
Nobody should be allowed to have these iconic dresses! Museum was stupid to allow KK to even wear Marilyn’s dress!!! That was one of a kind- she destroyed it! I don’t care how much $$ they paid to “ borrow” or buy that Oyster dress😮Hate me if you like - I could care less! RIP Marilyn ❤👵
Your statement is correct, however this is what rich people have done throughout all of history: plundering artifacts that do not belong to them and then act like they own or discovered them. Most of the British monarchy crown jewels were obtained in this fashion.
@@Kikobekillinit Lizzo was given permission *by* the owners of the crystal flute, and had the necessary background to treat the flute with respect and Did so. That's way different.
Marilyn Monroe said numerous times she didn't want anyone wearing her clothes after she died and that didn't stop Kim Kardashian because she fundamentally doesn't care
Well when people have enough money they can kinda basically have anything they want remember everyone has a right price and that museum probably did to 🤷
Fr like. Mf so what if only a couple were made. They were made to be worn. And if someone buys one, then it's yours. What? She's gonna buy a dress and store it away forever so it can slowly wither away? Leave her be
@@pfc_escalante …… excuse me.. are you I.. I can’t comprehend what you just said. Either you don’t give a crap about history of any kind or you’re outright stupid
What am I missing here???!!! People are mad because she altered her own property?? Really?? I can imagine, maybe that was the thought behind putting the other on display in a museum.. so that people could admire it as a piece of art.
I guess because it's such a timeless one of kind piece you wear it as it is you don't go alter it like it's just a random dress you just bought, maybe she should've made a replica her size bcs that dress took hours and hardwork to make and it's of great value, to just take/add pieces and modify it like that this is what I assume most people are referring which I partly agree with too but idk
@@anthonymcneil4238You could say that about anything that's stored in a museum, paintings being rotting wood and fabric, etc., so not an argument to me.
Maybe because the dress only became historical because of the celebrity who wore it? If the designer makes a dress then hangs it on a wall and declares it his master piece do you really think it will become "art" that has everyone talking.
No she didn't she lost 20 lbs to get into the dress. She knew she wouldn't fit in it so she lost the weight to do so. Marilyn wasn't a stick thin girl either.
Marilyn Monroe is a beautiful Hollywood actress who's influence will be around for generations to come. Kim Kardashian has permanently destroyed part of the actress's soul by selfishly slashing the dress and maker's legacy just to fit her silicone hips.
Kim is becoming irrelevant so she wore M Monroe’s dress for clout and she destroyed it. Then she purchased and wore the Alexander M dress this only caused people to dislike her, for example the most iconic person in fashion…Anna Wintor. Kim’s MET GALA invitation should be revoked.
@THEWEIRDOGOTHVAMPYREWITCH Except it wasn’t her dress. It was Marilyn Monroe’s she altered the ICONIC dress of a deceased woman, and if I’m not mistaken Marilyn explicitly didn’t want anyone to wear that dress. Because Kim had it in her possession suddenly her words don’t matter? Or is it because Marilyn’s dead?
It sickens me that she desecrated Marilyn’s dress!!! How disrespectful and disgusting! Then after her fans were outraged, she does it again with another dress!!! She has enough money to have any dress designed for her and only her, but she continues to ruin iconic dresses for others!!!😡
We as a society need to stop making these people famous. Don’t watch their shows, don’t buy their merchandise. Don’t buy magazines with them in it, don’t click on articles about them. They will eventually go away and stop being a cold sore on society.
Yep I totally agree. Marilyn Monroe unlike her had true talent and had an enormous IQ (which sadly is not that well known about her.) Kim K is a self absorbed talentless reality star who is only famous for inherited wealth, a sex tape, and a failed marriage to a rapping Nazi lover. You only need money and a night vision nudie to get famous in the country.
It's unfortunate that in America our attention span is getting smaller and smaller that thoughtless and talentless people can be famous for no true merit.
I think it's because she's shirt and curvy. I don't know what the alteration is. Seems like it was just altered to fit her body. I'm not defending anyone.
@@chicka-chickaslimcheyney2914 don't give it to em then,everyone here is giving them what they want, then telling me im defending them cause i told them to stop caring for what ppl do with the shit the bought. everyone doesn't realize their the reason to why they are this way, quit giving them attention.
I watched their show. She didn't do anything to it. She couldn't zip it up, so she altered her own spanx and jazzed it up to blend in with the dress, so the dress was open at the back what we were actually seeing at the back was a modified spanx!
I don't like Kim but I'm going to be fair with my opinion. she literally owns it. She has the right to do anything to this dress now because it's HER dress now.
@mistybollinger3312 lol Kim will NEVER be as beautiful,classy,and iconic as Marilyn was and it kills her!!!! I love it. Marilyn is queen forever and always
Your body is good , but not good for wearing the original petite dress. 😊 Just like the Marilyn Monroe dress...😊 Go to the fashion designer ,dresssmaker and make you a similar design ,measure your body and make it fit.....i hope its good on you...
@@jab20243 But that dress isnt even made for an hour glass figure. Its made to drape, not be snug tight. The whole effect is lost on Kim Kardashian. She makes an exquisite couture dress look like its off the rack from Top Shop. 🤮
Bro they shouldn't be selling these dresses anyway they should be places in museums or in a safe area where they can be viewed by others. Also the reason why kim doesn’t have respect and doesn't care is because she has money and lost of it. She gonna do whatever the hell she wants and doesn’t care about the consequences or how others will feel. But the only ones to blame are her fans and everyone that helped her get famous and rich. If ya'll wouldn't have given her family so much attention or money from the get go we wouldn’t be having these issues. But ya'll love making people who don't deserve to be famous, famous. Also im disappointed in kanye. He should've saved his money instead of buying her that dress. He could've used it for something better instead of spending it on someone who didn’t take that long to find someone else after they divorced.
This woman is rich enough to commission an exact replica of these dresses so that they can be preserved and would actually flatter her, but instead she is so full of herself she thinks she deserves to wear the exact originals. This is so ridiculous.
exactly. her body is very different from the measurements of these dresses. She couldn't of been comfortable squeezing in Marilyn Monroe's gown. Nor she would of been comfortable with this one. She could of had her own "Swan dress" moment and have something made that fits her perfectly, and steal the show with how drop dead gorgeous it is.
she didn't "allegedly" ruin the marilyn monroe dress, she DID ruin it. theres photos of ripped seams and missing crystals and hanging threads you can easily find online. the disrespect she consistently shows to people and items with deep cultural history is disgusting. she consistently claims creation of things black women have been doing for years, wears cultural hair pieces, jewelry, makeup, ANYTHING she can get her hands on to stay being talked about in the media. i despise this family so much and feel so bad for their children.
whats so deeply cultural about a marilyn monroe dress? If you base your culture around the elite and the clothes they wear then you have NO CULTURE. Why do you care what the elite does or wears? it holds absolutely no history to it, they are just dresses
Plus she had kids with a dude who obviously has devastating mental issues. As a child born to a parent with bipolar disorder and npd (and I have a PhD in human development) I feel so bad for her kids. We won’t know until they hit puberty if they will be as bad off as their dad or if they got lucky and missed the bipolar gene (thank god I don’t have either disorder). She could have had any man she wanted but chose clout and gold digging (Kanye pays $200k a month child support) over actually caring about her kids health.
You know the next Met is Karl Lagerfeld themed so let’s see what timeless and irreplaceable Chanel dress she’ll slaughter for that occasion. I can hear Karl turning in his grave just thinking about it.
looking at this comments section i think we need to put the word Narcissist on a high shelf until yall learn to not chuck around medical diagnoses when there are plenty of perfectly fine insults out there. self-absorbed, disrespectful, and selfish are all words that can describe damaging a piece of art and Aren't actual mental disorders that you're trying to diagnose strangers with! hope this helps
@@donatella5409 yeah, so its just a dress. The other one is still in a museum so get over it, its not even your dress. And the "damage" has already been done so unless u wanna hire someone to steal the damn dress from her...
After "someone" buys the "famous painting," it's then their property. They literally can do whatever the f*** they want to do with that. They bought it with their money
What pisses me off more is that Kim already had a replica of Marilyn's dress made. Yet she still chose to wear the original that was too small on her and completely stretch it out. If Kim's rich enough to have someone make a replica of Marilyn's dress for her. She can also have a replica oyster dress made specially for her, there's no reason for her to be wearing/ruining historical pieces when she can have a replica made.
She didn't Ruin the real thing and he wore the replica a majority of the night. She o lying wore the real thing to walk up the stairs. Also the owners of the dress recently had it on display at a convention in Florida and publicly said Kim DIDN'T RUIN the dress.
@@andrerwhaag2734 its still disrespectful af. Marilyn specifically said she didn’t want anyone else to wear it but for some reason these celebrities have a hard time staying behind the boundary.
Don't feed the media, the more you give attention, the more of Hollywood archive people that keep those dresses lend her the dress. So don't encourage this attention beggars. ❌
Fair point. I wish she had just commissioned a replica but sadly, yes, she is within her rights to alter something she owns. Marilyn's dress was unfortunate.
First of all, she didn’t purchase it. And people are saying that, instead of ruining an original dress, she could commission one to look exactly like it with all the changes and style she wants instead of changing an original masterpiece.
@소봉찬열 [Ji] Only two versions of the dress were ever made, one sits in the gallery of the MET and the other now belongs to Kim - a Christmas gift from husband Kayne. "Kayne actually got me this for Christmas," Kim told Vanity Fair at the Oscars afterparty.Feb 11, 2020
@@tracierequena8667 they lied. I saw the dress on display a couple of months prior to them lending it to her and after it went back on display. There’s obvious new damage.
They think the future generations going care about this or other dress because our generation for sure going make some dress or whatever famous things as this dress They will never care about this dress
Money bought the ruination of those dresses. Kim doesn’t have the same smaller hips and butt that the dresses were designed for. Nothing against Kim, but what is her point? To flaunt her money or to get attention?
I'm so disappointed... How is it possible that you can destroy history just because you have money. I'm really mad at the people who agreed giving her the dress...
They bought it. It’s the sellers fault for selling it to them. She owns the dress it’s hers to destroy. Marilyn’s dress is a completely different story though. She’s absolutely wrong for that. Wholly.
@@jayde_884 It definitely is an asshole move. I feel like the seller was desperate for the money. I just think I’m more upset about the Marilyn Monroe dress than this one. (Plus I lowkey think the oyster dress is ugly so like another reason why I don’t care but I do care at the same time.)
@@shylapollard5165 That’s the thing though, they can and do. Kim isn’t the only celebrity who’s bought something historically important and ruined it. The (probable) reason it’s being sold is that museums are financially struggling and donations aren’t enough to keep them afloat anymore. It’s sad, but it’s out of anybody’s hands. They shouldn’t but they can.
