Kindle’s Secret Weapon? The Future of "Real" Color E-Ink (Gallery 3)

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E-Ink Gallery 3 is what I'd like to call real color E-Ink because, instead of using an RGB filter on top of a black-and-white ink screen, it uses colored E-Ink particles.
This is the holy grail for e-paper because it essentially works similarly to printing colors on a sheet of paper, resulting in a cleaner and more vibrant appearance than current color E-Ink technology.
With the 2022 announcement, E Ink named seven companies that would adopt this real color ink technology in 2023. But guess what? That didn't happen. So what's next?
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@ChalidRaqami 14 дней назад

Remarkable just announced the "Paper Pro", which has an E-Ink Gallery 3 screen: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FXlO9MaaW8g.html So I'd say at this point it's not a question of if, but when Amazon releases the Kindle Color with Gallery 3. Let's see if Amazon wants to take advantage of this year's Christmas sales.

@MarcelloBranca 6 дней назад

That screen flashes like its on drugs 😂😂

@anatolitrafimuk4987 29 дней назад

Thanks, Chalid. Really I was an owner of the Bigme Galy during a year, next I broke the screen. Just used for read, not the tablet purposes. I just bought Kaleido 3 Boox Go Color 7. Terrible ghosting even use full screen refresh in settings. Colors are pale, screen is extremely dark. The only annoying things is ghosting on static images, never fixed by boox still. The Bigme Galy have no one ghosting with full refresh, Kaleido 3 has.

@bellissimo4520 3 дня назад

Just give me some digital foto frames with gallery 3 already!! This technology is PERFECT for picture frames!! No more external power required as with all the stupid LCD frames. The little power it needs could easily be drawn from solar panels in the frame itself.

@skycloud4802 3 дня назад

That's a good use for it. Plus colour e-ink smartwatch displays.

@ChalidRaqami День назад

Hehe, it really would be great - I built a digital frame with a Pimeroni Impression panel (which is E-Ink ACeP) and a battery. Works really well, just very slow to refresh and not very high-res. I haven't managed to come around making a video about it, but it's still on the list.

@bellissimo4520 День назад

@@ChalidRaqami Well refresh doesn't have to be fast. I imagine a foto frame needs to change the picture maybe once a day. So you insert an SD card with your photo collection, and the frame shows a random one every day. Since only the actual change requires power, this could be done with the tiniest of solar cells.

@Change-1820 Месяц назад

As always, a great discussion and I think you hit it right on the head. Current color e-ink is not something I would consider, especially with the need for refresh technologies and battery performance. However, the clarity on the Galley was very nice once it was a stable image because of the color particles. Unfortunately, I am not sure what would be required from a hardware perspective to make it sustainable and usable. That being said, maybe readers are the best use to begin and experiment with. It seems that maybe Kobo and Amazon could make some real progress here. Thanks again for the video, I always enjoy them.

@litjellyfish Месяц назад

Color pixels? Or so you mean particles? Gallery uses particles while kaleidoscope uses more pixel based color filter

@Change-1820 Месяц назад

@@litjellyfish thank you for the correction, that is exactly what I meant. I edited my post so there are no misunderstandings.

@litjellyfish Месяц назад

@@Change-1820 great. Thanks for telling me. Have a great start of next week.

@DTPIIXART 13 дней назад

Amazon can't keep ignoring color screens, especially with Remarkable having just released it's new color tablet. I'm betting it won't be long before we see a color Kindle Scribe.

@ChalidRaqami 12 дней назад

I have the feeling something is coming ... :) Just from how Amazon discontinued the Kindle Oasis and now the Basic Kindle being out of stock in a couple of countries.

@DTPIIXART 12 дней назад

@@ChalidRaqami I hope so. Keeping my eyes peeled.

@TahirAhmed-lg8in 11 дней назад

It's actually coming this November 2024 , colour scribe and colour 7" kindle paperwhite

@MyLifeInTheDesert 2 дня назад

@@TahirAhmed-lg8inhow do you know

@dennisrogers6786 Месяц назад

Problem I'd everyone now wants a 7" reader or close to it. The 6" nowadays is becoming less popular, and to keep costs down would be a 6" reader. Have heard rumors maybe an 8" so not in the average person's pocket. Would be premium I think ar that, so maybe 2 models

@selforganisation Месяц назад

I have an 6" device, albeit not a color one. And while this size is good for books (at least re-flowable formats), it's too small for comic books. Certainly not easy to read if you have full-page or even fit-to-width. You can rotate the screen but then you see like 1/3 of page width at a time. And comic books are I think one of the main reasons to get a color device. I don't have an 7.8" device like inkpad color 3 or boox tab mini c, but my smartphone's screen has almost the exact same height as such a screen, and at this height comics are readable enough full-page. Though this is still a compromise, a typical physical copy of a western comic book is a bit larger than the 10.3" devices, so those would be perfect size-wise.

@dennisrogers6786 Месяц назад

I often read comics on my Clara colour, its possible, just need to zoom

@jredlamar 12 часов назад

So recently picked up my old Kindle Paperwhite. It's a 7th gen. I want to upgrade to the latest 11th gen. Is it worth upgrading now? Or should I wait for a color Kindle?

@Big-Chungus21 Месяц назад

I always use my E-reader without the backlight / frontlight on, with few exceptions. There are currently no studies that i’m aware of that prove an E-reader with frontlight is any better than a phone or tablet screen. Because of this, I won’t be getting a colour E-reader until it can be used with no frontlight.

@baltgames1 28 дней назад

I don't see the point to use e-ink with light on as well. I want eink to be natural.

@DayaMcCarthy 26 дней назад

I've been trying to look for eink color displays that have no back or front light

@Big-Chungus21 26 дней назад

@@DayaMcCarthy Your best bet is waiting for Gallery 3. Most E-ink colour displays at the moment are incredibly slow, if they’re not using some kind of filter display (which is hard to use without frontlight). Might just have to stick for black and white displays for now.

@MyLifeInTheDesert 2 дня назад

Sorry but I read with the kindle scribe with a light and there is no issue when the light is on or off. It’s a great feature for those of us reading in bed who don’t want to disturb others

@dennisrogers6786 Месяц назад

Trouble is will make devices 2X as pricy and amazon may have something like this next year, but would think near double the price, so will be several more years before the tech gets cheaper and widely adopted

@ChalidRaqami Месяц назад

Yes, it'll definitely be more expensive unfortunately. I just hope in case Amazon really releases a Kindle Color, they'll do the same as with previous Kindle generations and cross-finance it to push (comic-)ebook sales.

@roiking2740 Месяц назад

@@ChalidRaqami Its possible that Gallery 3 is simply isn't feasible for the consumer market. The technology maybe to complex to manufacture or code.

@ajwalker4416 Месяц назад

Thanks for this update but I'm going to be honest, I follow your channel because you are a hard-core Star Trek fan! I'm going to have to start reading those Star Trek comics, any recommendations where to start? I would love to see a Star Trek Legacy comic since Paramount seems determined to keep recycling nostalgia instead of "boldly" going forward with new stories, new crews, and new ships.

@ChalidRaqami Месяц назад

Thanks :D I'd recommend starting with Lower Decks if you like the show. I found that comic especially easy to get into because it looks and feels the same as the show. Next, I'd go for SNW (even if that's a bit recycled nostalgia, I actually was pleasantly surprised at how well it works; would still like to see a continuation of the 24/25th century timeline), as the show is still running, and I also found that makes it easier to get into. Also the artwork is very well done and close to the RL characters and style.

@ajwalker4416 Месяц назад

@@ChalidRaqami Thanks for that. I'm not a Lower Decks fan or SNW fan (neither show "clicked" for me) so I'll look into other titles but I appreciate your feedback. Keep up the good work on your channel and I'll keep watching.

@evilphuk Месяц назад

@@ChalidRaqamican you make a series of content dedicated to Star trek 😅 I enjoy what you produce but also interested in what you can contribute to Star trek

@valeriopastore7310 Месяц назад

Much as i love the idea of a crispier color eink device, all those flickering between one page and the other? Just no

@jay_cadiramen Месяц назад

So would you suggest holding off buying a Kobo Libra Color in anticipation of new (bigger) ereaders coming out in the next few months?

@ChalidRaqami Месяц назад

I suspect another Kobo color ereader will just have a bigger screen but will use the exact same technology used as in the Libra Colour. So I wouldn't wait for an improved screen tech in this case and only hold off buying the Libra Color if you want the bigger screen itself. But that larger Kobo device will definitely be more expensive (I expect something around 400 USD - same as the Elipsa 2E).

@bkddop Месяц назад

amazing

@mcavity Месяц назад

so the smaller they can make the particles the better they can make the filter..

@litjellyfish Месяц назад

Yes but it’s still a filter. Also as a filter I doesn’t really use particle. It’s a static filter. But the smaller they can make the CMYK particles then of course the better crispness and color vibrancy they can make. I just assume that speed and energy will still be and issue. With filter you still just have your black particles to control. With real CMYK it’s a lot more physical movement complexity. Also with filter I assume it’s as now possible to have a different resultion of the color separated from the black resolution. Which has performance benefits. This is not possible with real color particles. But that also makes it more real color. I think there will in the end by two parallel tracks. The quick and dirty dilrrr based color for many consumers that just want a bit of color and are not so picky. They want to have a cheap and snappy experience And then are those who want really good quality sharp color images. Even if it’s slower. For sure for digital screens / ads / art etc. the gallery (hence its name) is still the way to go

@mcavity Месяц назад

@@litjellyfish I ment the epaper particles which on this one is black and white. The more they can shrink those and still control them the finer they can make the static color filter..

@litjellyfish Месяц назад

@@mcavity yes and I mean it’s a win win. Better resolution of the black is great. Still even with finer filter it will always darken the screen. And never get saturation. But it means that at least we will not have to color downgrade the black sharpness and remove the grain. And a bit front light removes the grey. But at the cost of color saturation and blackness = less intense color and contrast

@fcf8269 Месяц назад

BTW you should keep an eye on the postproduction you put on your videos when talking about color eink because these devices colors are amazing and does not look anything like the washout pastel tone that you see in real life. People may see this video and think that actually color eink using Kaleido 3 tech is actually that good... While in reality it is just your video post production color curve that make it look good.

@ChalidRaqami Месяц назад

Thanks, I'll keep it in mind - though I'm not doing any special color grading for the colors to pop more. I'd say it's mostly the lightling. But I always point out the muted colors when talking about Color E-Ink and sometimes also show a comparison to LCDs just to not give a wrong impression.

@fcf8269 Месяц назад

@@ChalidRaqami Thanks; it is not something you are doing on purpose of course; but in some videos those screen really pop. Only when compared to something like an Ipad you can see the difference in color brightness, but on their own, they appear to be quite bright

@ameliabuns4058 Месяц назад

Honestly, call me crazy but I couldn't notice the darkness of the color e-inks myself compared to b and w.

@bellissimo4520 3 дня назад

With the frontlight, you can compensate it. Then the color screens basically look the same as the b/w screens. The obvious drawback of this is power usage - the frontlight will drain the battery a lot faster. Oh, and of course whenever you are actually in bright, direct sunlight, then these color screens look perfectly fine too, without any frontlight. So if you read mostly outside, than they are fine anyway.

@whiteglitch Месяц назад

Gallery 3 is bad , black is not real black , I hope they can improve on Kaleido 3 or find another solution

@satchillananda Месяц назад

I think Kaleido is a dead end

@whiteglitch Месяц назад

@@satchillananda I think there is room for small improvement in reflectivity and dpi. That would be enough for a Kaleido 4 release considering eink has almost zero competition in the epd market .

@ChalidRaqami Месяц назад

Gallery 3 - as it was released in the Bigme Galy - was the first-gen end-consumer version of Advanced Color ePaper (ACeP). I suspect there's a lot more room for improvement than with E-Ink Kaleido. Kaleido with its passive RGB filter will always have the problem of the darker screen's background. Someone on reddit found the Himax/E-Ink press release for a new ACeP controller: markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/e-ink-and-himax-unveil-advanced-color-epaper-timing-controller-asic-t2000-1033615924

@Thrall256 Месяц назад

Printing on paper uses CMYK (with K = Key = Black) to get around the somewhat lacklustre black produced by combining Cyan, Magenta and Yellow inks (In addition to a number of other benefits to using black ink in addition to CMY). Perhaps they should make an e-ink screen with five pigments: White, Black, Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow.

@litjellyfish Месяц назад

@@satchillanandaI mean it really can change how it works. It will always be darker. And alwjas a bit muted. But the speed and resolution might be better. I actually thing it will due to sales etc be the main color to evolve. So for sure it’s hair the start of it. Sadly also I fear that might delay other solutions like gallery that is more real color. Things move forward where the money is

@user-jt5vm3mi1w Месяц назад

Just use phone

@Femfemio Месяц назад

Am I the only one who doesnt like this e-ink color screen trend? They are trying to resemble regular phones and tablets more and more. Black ink is great, it has a purpose. If you want color why not just settle for LCD? I just dont really see the point.

@worri3db3ar Месяц назад

students might like colour e-ink over their 3 inch thick textbooks they have to lug around all day long...i don't think ud like to use ur phone for studying college textbooks also the longevity of the batteries in the devices...(before the USB-c standardisation you had to carry a bunch of cords for each device but now almost everything uses USB-c ports) can you imagine how many times ud need to charge ur mobile phone/tablet with LCD screens in one day if you were say an university student. Also e-ink screens don't have glare as an issue currently right out the box.

@Femfemio Месяц назад

@@worri3db3ar Students carry laptops or ipads anyway as is though. They are obligatory by now and get charged either way. You can use matte screen protectors.

@worri3db3ar Месяц назад

@@Femfemio I didn't know students can afford to get ipads nowadays (I haven't bought any apple products as they felt very expensive). But still you do make a good point...as I just viewed colour e-ink as a cheap alternative to tablets and phones since u don't have to keep the screen active thus saving on battery life.

@mariu_sh2439 Месяц назад

I would love to have reader with color screen. Comics, graphics in books etc. And it is easier on eyes. For my evening/nightly sessions i would love to have it instead od staring into another glowing screen

@evilphuk Месяц назад

@@Femfemio*tablets