Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss - New Shell, Same Solid Sound 

Hard to look at the graph and see what they did, but they did something right on this one. I think I like the more affordable sets that sound larger than the others which this one does well.

He does a great job, so does Tony/Akros 😊 these guys have given me quite the education

Glad the Wyvern fan club is turning out. Seems more now than with the original

Go back and take a look at the original Wyvern, it went under the radar but it was a nice set at the time. And a bit cheaper.

Mine wasn't good on WV Pro but the idea was right. Kinera always does nice shells..well maybe not that Pandamon 1 shell, but the rest are nice.

@@PaulWasabii yeah that one is a real WTF 🤔

IMO there's no question that the Q1 Pro sounds better. It's a tier or two ahead in sound. Fit is better on the Wyvern shell, though.

@Scorpioassmode have you actually heard them both? I have Wyvern and the sound is excelleny. I asked Akros/Tony and a couple other reviewers who all said they were equal. Q1P has a bit more treble energy, so if you prefer this you may think it sounds better.

Also Q1 Pro does not have better shells, they are nice but quite standard these days. KINERA shells are unique, pure art. Wyvern is chonky but quite comfortable and built solid as they come. I'm going to get Abyss just to have the set of art. They may not be your cup of tea but to say they are less than is not true.

@@someoneusa I own both. I find the Q1 Pro to have much tighter bass and a more sparkly treble presentation. The Wyvern sounds a bit too boosted in the upper mids. I don’t dislike the Wyvern, but like a lot of Kinera products, I think it is price is more based on the looks than the actual performance. I think the Wyvern sounds like a 15-20 USD IEM whereas the Q1 Pro competes with those 40USD and above. But everyone hears differently.

@@scorpioassmodeusgtx1811 Gotcha- Thanks for clarifying! Specifics as to what we personally see as good/bad are so much more helpful than just better/worse. Someone's trash is another's treasure as they say. Who the hell is they? Lol. I like Q1P tuning. I also like WV's upper mids and all 3 Conch nozzles, yet Waner's made my brain bleed. My ears canals are weird, thank God for tip rolling 😁 I feel the opposite, paid $14 for WV which I think is worthy of $30. That being said, I buy everything on sale with coupons and coins so I'm generally getting a ton of value. It's also hard for me to say its sound is worth x amount when I have $3-5 sets that I like as much as my Artti T10. I'd have massive issues making a ranking list based on better or worst. I like every set I have for different reasons. Plus I'm addicted to modding/Eq'ing. Valid point about looks but I didn't care for Waner $20 sound and it's a junk plastic shell w/crap cable. Build alone justifies WV price, IMHO, it's also beautiful, which adds value to many, drew me in! 2nd I didn't have any Harmon-ish sets at the time. I like air and sparkle but it's not always needed,nor is the lack of it necessarily bad. Treble is the most subjective out of all the frequencies. Not to mention genre specific. Tupac doesn't need sprinkles 😜 Being a basshead, initially felt it was lacking bass. Clearly a popular opinion since Abyss exists. My tastes have evolved and now can enjoy a lighter bass as long as it's good quality, not muddy, not killing the rest of the sound, quick or not, boomy or not, depends on my mood and music. Too much subBASS?! Grew up on 80s booty bass in Florida, haven't come across that yet 😎 bring on the rumble! Man I'm on a roll with my rants today 🙄

Abyss is the safer pick unless you want a bit more upper treble which Abyss has enough.

Not sure about soon but I have both. S08 is ok, they seem to have went a bit heavy on the foam. Someone said make it less bright and they did. S2 at first glance, balanced like a Harman set and bass annoyed me in the first few minutes.

They are close enough to each other. Pick the one the cheaper one or the one that looks better. Very similar sound signatures.

same

@@nathanlee8494 Are u sure?.. why does someone says Abyss and another says Black.. Why 2 name?..

Same. Its just alternative names

Yeah it is done. Basically $20 set that landed midpack. I would be on the side that hoped it was closer to Hola than it is.

Look for the Wyvern Pro. I believe that kit is this one: www.kineraaudio.com/product/celest-ruyi

Mine did not.

@@PaulWasabii interesting!

@@someoneusa yeah cuz many ppl who reviewed it, like akros, said they have upped the bass a lil bit compared to the wvern pro, qc issues?

@@prakharanand7012 seems that's the case, I've nevr seen it with same bass. Mine definitely has more bass. I covered the vents to regular WV which increases subbass to a nice level and added a filter to Abyss which tightened bass and lowered the mids. Now they sound different too each other. Really great IEMs.