cringeybydefault I know I'm late but I'm still making a joke. *sora opens door* "close it" "now I can't close it" *Sora yelling from the other side of the door* "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!!!"
I love how Utada Hikaru sings normally and then proceeds to play the song backwards. Her vocals and her creativity is astounding. She truly is an underrated singer.
The original comment is correct, people. Only those 3 lines are backmasked and revealed when played in reverse. They can clearly be heard in reverse when playing the song normally. The rest of the words are put to reverse gibberish to fool you. Nothing else is actually being said when in reverse outside of those 3 lines.
Naminé. That was Naminé singing about her life tough. 'I was him' = She was Sora 'My Hero was Ansem' = Riku/Ansem helped her with Sora 'And now you shall sleep' = She's saying that to Sora 'I hate emotion' = She didn't wanted to hurt feelings = Emotions but she had to (If you know what I mean) 'I need true Emotions' = She's a nobody and she probably knows that she only has a temporary heart so she has no true emotions orso Correct me If I'm wrong
I thought it was from Riku's perspective, talking to Sora. "I need more affection than you'll now" - A lot of KH1's story happened because Riku felt left alone by Sora. "I will destroy them" - Maybe Soras "new friends"? There are a couple more. I think both are possibilities since neither of the two hypothesises fits to everything. For example I can't imagine Namine saying "I will destroy them". Even if she would just be talking about memories or something like that she wouldn't use a word such as "destroy"
Sora is a little part of Namine. I'm not entirely sure anymore how exactly it was explained but when Sora opened his heart to save Kairi they got intertwined. Firstly that's why Kairi can have a Nobody overall, since Princesses of Heart can't lose their heart iirc, and secondly why Namine has the ability of altering memories but ONLY the ones of Sora and those affiliated with him.
Just noticed that some people pointed out that it sounds more like "I will NOT destroy them". If that's the case Namine really is more likely than Riku.
porp109 we knew riku was ansem in the first one wtf ?? But he wasn't the hero sora was and some how a princess because he shared pow pue fruit with kiri and we opened the and we couldn't close it that's were the darkness came from or riku opend it he told us to go thier hmmm.....
There’s a interview with Tetsuya Nomura in the Kingdom Hearts 2 Ultimania saying that he had Utada Hikaru write this song about Sora’s and Riku’s reunion. The English version and the Japanese version have different lyrics. Utada Hikaru wrote the English version first. Both songs are definitely from Riku’s point of view. These lyrics sung backwards are trying to tell us that he gave into darkness while he was under Ansems influence. His heart is a battleground when he battles with the light and the darkness. "We used to laugh we shall go back" meaning he misses the old days when they were friends and wants to go back to the destiny islands. "And now you shall sleep" Sora sleeps in chain of memories "I watch you fast asleep all I fear means nothing." "I need more affection than you know" and" I need true emotions" means he wants more attention from Sora and he wishes to face how he really feels about him.
Also Riku is very unsubtly in love with Sora and has been since the beginning. I always interpreted the paopu fruit scene where he says to Sora "C'mon I know you wanna try it" as a shy attempt to express his affection to Sora
Hmm.... so just the English versions? or the English and Japanese versions? because I translated the Japanese version of Simple and Clean with a Ray of Hope, and the lyrics are different from the English version so.... maybe it's just the English versions?
The secret messages is part of why Santuary is my favorite theme out of the 3 main console games. Adds to the song alot. Also the song sounds pretty dope in reverse
He was talking about when Riku was influenced by Ansem seeker of darkness when he took from and at that time he couldn't control himself so his hero was Ansem. That is what Riku is talking about.
Cristian Lucio I could see Sora, Donald and Goofy going to the world "Disney Town". It makes perfect sense on how they could implement Goofy's son in KH3.
Underestimated Usually But dont they sound the same in the second game? And aren't they technically the same person considering Roxas is Sora's nobody?
Actually, the song in reverse most likely is about Riku's time during CoM because his story was called "Reverse/Rebirth" in which he also goes down the floors of Castle Oblivion, instead of going up, like Sora does, and the song is about Sora forward and, seemingly, Riku backward.
+Storm Wave you realize this is a separate song from kingdom hearts. this song isn't existing exclusively for the game. I think handsome makes more sense
+Zachary Pearce actually, you got Simple and Clean. I think this song WAS SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR THIS, but written cleverly to hide it unless if you play it backwards
For those who don't know, some parts were already backwards in the original song. "I need more affection then you know" "So many up and downs" "I need true emotions"
wargodspirit What do you say? I didn't understand. see this video ( watch?v=IXMGRcdn2Qo ) people in this village complain from magic, so it came reader to read for them from the Quran.
IKnowWhatYouDid UAE فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ Oh, people in this town smoke weed, shoot smack, snort coke, and complain why they don't have money. :D So I naturally be a complete and absolute dick around them. There is no relation between the topic we're on and the town I'm talking about! :3 I thought I'd share.
I'm guessing that "My hero was Ansem, My hero was Ansem, And it was real, and i never knew it" is saying that Sora thought of Riku as his hero and Ansem took over Riku's body and Sora never knew until he fought Ansem at the end of Kingdom Hearts 1
+Aidan Keogh I think its roxas due to "i need true emotions", "I hate Emotion", The whole miror thing at the end, and also "We used to laugh, we Shall be back"
Some serious Illuminati shit going on in the KH series (nothing unexpected coming from Disney)... =P In fact, the whole series is full of symbolism and I have to admit it is indeed scary to see my favorite videogames series with so many subliminal messages. The mysticism behind the entire franchise is simultaneously one of the things that also make it special for me (but it is spooky if you analyze it with the "right" perspective). Curious enough, the song is called "Sanctuary", as if you should praise an entity ("My hero was Ansem", aka the seeker of Darkness). "13", "7" and "3" are very important numbers in the entire series. These numbers alone have a strong symbolism associated to them. The Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key-D are also symbols similar to the "Keys of Heaven" from the Vatican (which also happen to be a strange allusion to the "X-Blade"). St. Peter's Square even as a Keyhole and stuff (Google it). Xehanort's Keyblade happen to be a Foreteller's Keyblade (which has a strange looking eye on it) but also a goat (aka Baphomet). The way they decided to symbolize the whole submission to Xehanort's thing is also a curious one (orange eyes). Even the intro of the games with Sora falling from the sky in a clear sunny day (like a "fallen angel") And I could go on with it... As I said, I love this series, but you can't deny that if you analyze it in a certain way, you'll realize there's a lot of hidden stuff (even more complexe than the storyline).
Or not because it has nothing to do with the illuminati it's referring to the organization be smarter than that instead of asuming its illuminati like I hate people that do that
dankiirving irving Wow, you must be fun at parties! I was being sarcastic in my first comment (in case you didn't notice), but anyway, here are some other things to "nurture" your thoughts... Why on earth would the Darkness inside the heart of a Old man (Master Xehanort) be splitted into "13" exact vessels (this is part of the Dream Drop Distance plot by the way)? Why choose "13" elements for a Organization that wants to capture the heart of people for themselves? "13 Darknesses" vs "7 Lights"? Why such exact numbers? Even the Organization's clothing is very similar to the kind you see in secret cults... Why is the idea of duality (light vs dark) such a part of the series? Why is this thought so defended throughout the franchise (Xehanort mentions many times that Light and Dark are "in Equilibrium")? Why are Xemnas' clothes black and white in the final battle of KH2? Again, duality symbolism all over the place which also happens to be something defended in the Illuminati ideology, not to mention the"white & black checkers symbols" (another symbol from FreeMasonry) that is in every KH-related artwork. I'm not trying to degrade the series (it's my favorite videogame series of all time), but I could do this all day. A lot of Illuminati symbolism is present in KH and denying it would be even more stupid.
AirbagVII YES! You hit the nail right on the head! I replayed the entire series just to look for the symbols I missed as a kid. In KH2 the Organization is using Sora as a puppet of sorts. At least until he realizes the truth, he thinks he's saving the world by killing the heartless. This is kind of big when it comes to Illuminati and how they mask the masses into thinking they are "doing the right thing" by doing meaningless things for example, Like my status if you support [insert cause here]. People believe the right thing is being done, in reality we are not doing a damn thing about said issue. Same with Sora.
It's creepy listening to it but if you watch the video and you see Donald and Goofy you feel like 15 times more relaxed remembering this is a kids game.
Nathan Benitez It is technically a kid's game, but kids generally won't get the underlying tones and message of the series, and the second game has some stuff that kids probably won't like, such as the Pirates of the Caribbean world having realistic people and blood in some cutscenes.
It can also be about Roxas if you think about it: I need more affection than you'll know (Roxas is a nobody, he doesn't have a heart, nor can he feel) I need true emotions (Basically the above) My hero was Ansem (his leader is Xemnas, nobody of Ansem) I was him (Roxas was Sora) And now you shall sleep (he goes back into Sora in KH II) I may be just overthinking stuff, but hey, I still think it's more about Riku, but it can be Roxas as well
I think the song is talking about Organization 13, saying that they have no emotion. and saying that they desperately want too feel emotion, and have a heart.
Everybody this song was written by Utada Hikaru. It is a stand alone song. It was not created for Kingdom Hearts. There are parts that sound backwards when you play the song forwards. Those are the only lines that are legitimate secret messages because obviously if they are backwards when you play the song normally they will have a clear message when you play the song backwards. The secret messages are in no way relevant to Kingdom Hearts. The only lines that are backwards messages are "I need more affection than you'll know", "So many ups and downs", and "I need true emotions". The rest is completely made up.
I think its speaks to how masterfully crafted the song and the series as a whole is that this song makes sense and has relevance backwards as well as forwards. So many mind-blowing parallels you can draw between the words and the characters...
Wait so the theory that Riku is Ansem/Xehnort from the very start is true?... "HE WAS ANSEM, HE WAS ANSEM" man, it kind of creepy to hear songs backwards...
People have been playing songs backwards for a long time to try to get more meaning from them. it usually ends up being something random and creepy and our need for more drives us to interpret the sounds and give meaning when there was none to begin with. we need to stick to truth.
Sally Farb This is too much of a coincidence. It matches the tone of Kingdom Hearts way too much to not have truth to it. Besides, Riku was apart of Ansem for a long time. So the meaning of the song backwards makes a lot of sense.
I think it's based of of Riku I was him= Riku was ansem He was ansem= Ansem was the one who basically controlled Riku I need more affection than you know= Kairi likes sora, not Riku. And he wants affection. Closing hurry/Closing, now I can't close it= the realm of darkness I need true emotions= it's a cry for help because of the darkness in his heart
No man it said closing curry. The curry shop is closing and he's desperate to get there early because he's affectionate to the curry. He can't express his emotions in public when he says his favorite curry.
"I need more affection than you know" has never been a secret. Utada Hikaru (The singer/writer of this song) said in an interview said that she recorded parts of the song backwards.
KH, like a lot of other great fiction today, has a lot of esoteric meaning and occultic symbology, that's for sure... Most other KH fans don't realize it because they're just gamers and do not play the games to also analyze them.
The whole 'I need more affection than you know' part when the song was played normally killed the song for me. But when it was played backwards (when you could actually hear 'I need more affection than you know' clearly) I liked it. BACKWARDS MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER!!!!! XD
I listened tot his backwards before which is so cool, also Utada actually said those reversed lines backwards without any editing done to it which is cool! Also I never even thought about this it does sound like that's what its saying throughout the whole song!
I think that the song forward is like Sora and Kairi becoming nobodys. Then backwards is Riku and Roxas talking about emotions and Ansem. Specificly the song, the ending is something else.
I still think this is pretty creepy, but I just looked up the lyrics because I still have no idea what the fuck she is saying in the song, and it shows a line "I need more affection than you know (reversed)" so I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say it was intentional. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (It's still gives me nightmares tho)
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Yeah, considering Hikaru Utada made her songs focusing on the Japanese version, I would have to doubt that she found a way to make it so that it has a hidden message when translating it to the English version.
It is soooo much easier to make hidden messages while playing a song backwards in Japanese, just because of how the language works. I wouldn't doubt that you could find something in the Japanese version.
The backwards lines I think were intentional are "I need more affection than you know" "So many ups and downs" and "I need true emotions". You can also hear clearly "I hate emotion" and "I will not destroy them" because those parts are actually backwards in the original as well. Basically the whole Marluxia stairway part until the end of Namine drawing it is backwards intentionally besides the line, "My heart's a battle ground" because that's obviously forwards lol.
C'mon, we all know the 'secret messages' are all *wrong* ! Except a few sentences like "I need more affection then you'll know", "so many ups and downs", "I need true emotions" of course. But the rest is fake. Anyway some wrong sentences like "Naminé, I'm sorry" is an interesting interpretation of the song in reverse. But seriously Utada Hikaru wrote this song and sang it without thinking about some hidden messages when the songs plays backward, except of course the sentences in reverse in the 'normal' song. But she didn't choose the other lyrics (My Sancturay, where fear and lies melt away etc) because they sounds like "He was Ansem" backward. Even if some of the lyrics of the song doesn't make sense. Please, now try to find more hidden messages with the Spanish opening :D and the Japanese one
Wow! I knew there was that "I need more affection than you'll ever know" message, but the entire song and beginning words!? Yeah, this just blew my mind.
The line "I need more affection then you know" is actually her singing exactly that reversed in the song when played normally, anybody who looked up the lyrics since this song has been out would know that :)
Organization 13... Illuminati has 3 sides and 1 eye... Roxas, a member of the organization, fought Riku once, and Riku wore an organization jacket also... Roxas is Sora's nobody... Sora... Sora and Riku share a bond that makes them identical to brothers... The Kingdom Key, the main keyblade, has 3 points, and both Sora and Riku can wield them... Now, even Kairi can...completing not only the trio but the keyblade warrior one... Kingdom Hearts? More like, Kingdom Eye!
Instead of it being Illuminati, (like everyone wants it to be.) I think its both Ansem's declaration of vengeance against Organization XIII and Mickey saying his hero/friend was Ansem the Wise, Xemnas declaring he stole Ansem's name, Sora saying that the friendship he experienced as Roxas was real and the Nobodies wanting to experience true emotions.
This song always seemed like Roxas' song. His sanctuary in Sora'a heart. Where he's safe. But backwards was about Riku. But hearing it again, it's still Roxas. It's about his tragedy fighting Riku after being in organization 13. The heartbreaking part "I need more affection them you know" Roxas crying out because he was growing a heart before death.
i bet it takes some incredible planning to come up with something that fits both ways total props to them, that was incredible! thanks for doing this for us :)
most of these "lyrics" are the result of the human brain finding words where there isn't any, like how people see lincolns face in bran flakes. Sanctuary does have a few back masked areas, these are the "I need more affection than you know" lines. the rest of it is gibberish. subtitles can make you believe anything.
+Lonelle P maybe for the "i need more affection than you know" part, since that's the only line that is clearly reversed in the normal version. But for the rest to be reversed? Mmmm.....not feeling it.
What about “so many ups and downs”, the fact that phrase is there both when reversed and normal leads me to believe the entire song was meant to be played forward and backwards.
