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KINGPIN & DAREDEVIL in MCU Confirmed! Netflix Crossover Explained! 

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Hawkeye Episode 5 confirms that Kingpin Wilson Fisk Vincent D'Onofrio has joined the MCU, along with Kevin Feige confirming Charlie Cox Daredevil will too! Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS/ANDROID/PC: pl.go-ga.me/qy... and get a special starter pack 💥 Available only for the next 30 days
Daredevil (Charlie Cox) and Kingpin (Vincent D'Onofrio) are confirmed to be joining the MCU in Hawkeye (and rumor has it, Spider-Man No Way Home), presenting a fascinating mystery as to how Kevin Feige's Marvel Studios multiverse is connecting to the world of the Netflix Marvel characters. Erik Voss explains the history of these previously separate universes and how much, exactly, they are now connected to each other. Are we now confirmed to also see Jessica Jones, Punisher, and Luke Cage in the MCU too? Do we have to have Iron Fist?
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@NewRockstars
@NewRockstars 2 года назад
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@raihan2370
@raihan2370 2 года назад
Nice
@midknight2115
@midknight2115 2 года назад
I m so hyped
@dinoman8677
@dinoman8677 2 года назад
i think it is the same people but not story
@diablo5617
@diablo5617 2 года назад
Oh boy oh boy are u guys gonna flip your lids when you see NWH
@qwertymonsta
@qwertymonsta 2 года назад
No, I don’t think I will.
@Rockky67
@Rockky67 2 года назад
One thing that often gets missed is that Matt Murdock is actually a really good lawyer.
@danielarcher1797
@danielarcher1797 2 года назад
I understood that reference
@patrickmaginnis7570
@patrickmaginnis7570 2 года назад
@@danielarcher1797 I also understood that reference
@ytnoach
@ytnoach 2 года назад
Nice brick catching
@javieracordova107
@javieracordova107 2 года назад
i understand the reference…
@JACBRG
@JACBRG 2 года назад
@@patrickmaginnis7570 I too, understood that reference
@domblue
@domblue 2 года назад
What a perfect way to reveal Kingpin. I was afraid we'd get the same kind of cliff hanger ending in the series finale, having him as a final minute cameo, but having him here in the 5th episode was great!
@Go-Jesse
@Go-Jesse 2 года назад
Right?! It really helps hype up the next episode 😅
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us 2 года назад
How can Daredevil be part of the mainline MCU, you ask? Well, he is a really good lawyer...
@MrDK0010
@MrDK0010 2 года назад
His series is canon... as are the other MCU shows...
@tombrooks9649
@tombrooks9649 2 года назад
;)
@robinsargeson
@robinsargeson 2 года назад
Really good lawyer ;)
@harleygog3156
@harleygog3156 2 года назад
i understand that reference
@nfktesting
@nfktesting 2 года назад
nice
@cave386
@cave386 2 года назад
To be fair, most of the Netflix shows take place BEFORE the blip chronologically. So they don’t really have to reference the blip and could easily soft reboot them.
@The_Babe
@The_Babe 2 года назад
I bet Kingpin was freed due to the Blip
@the_o_man
@the_o_man 2 года назад
Agreed
@chillin2906
@chillin2906 2 года назад
I personally don’t think they are from a different universe I think they’ve always been in the same one but since they are “street level heroes and mob bosses” they weren’t noticed by the big world saving heroes
@alexander_martinez6084
@alexander_martinez6084 2 года назад
Literally what Kevin feige said years back but people refuse to believe it still
@markd5727
@markd5727 2 года назад
@@alexander_martinez6084 Its just weird that Hawkeye would worry about Kingpin any when he has the Avengers on speed dial... but i guess that still doesnt matter when dealing with villains that dont care who will have your loved ones kidnapped.
@mr.gunslinger1860
@mr.gunslinger1860 2 года назад
Yea u right makes sense , hopefully they don’t do that I kinda personality think it would b kinda dumb /:
@mr.gunslinger1860
@mr.gunslinger1860 2 года назад
Or he could’ve probably took a brake from being daredevil n seen that there was more heroes n he let them deal whit it while he’s having a life being a lawyer
@Xsydo
@Xsydo 2 года назад
Yeah
@clovenspark2688
@clovenspark2688 2 года назад
I would explain it like this during the blip daredevil was erased and Fisk was acquitted of his charges. And since the world was grieving he was able to quick grow to power making him even more of problem to stop.
@StrangersFromTheMist
@StrangersFromTheMist 2 года назад
Right. I feel like you have to do either only Daredevil Season 1 is canon, or Daredevil Season 3 is canon, which means The Defenders and everyone else is.
@lt.pizzabox6712
@lt.pizzabox6712 2 года назад
I love how you always clearly enjoy what you're doing with this, it's always lovely to see when someones truly expressing their interest and excitement with this stuff. Keep up the great content :)
@ironicanimations
@ironicanimations 2 года назад
Yessss 👏
@LauraCourtneyette
@LauraCourtneyette 2 года назад
Gives me hope…
@tonybablony2041
@tonybablony2041 2 года назад
Let me know what’s up with you
@Prod.SEMAPHORE
@Prod.SEMAPHORE 2 года назад
Lemme know lemme know lemme know what’s up wit u
@Kyleswrld
@Kyleswrld 2 года назад
Fax and lljw
@dheerajsansanwal2815
@dheerajsansanwal2815 2 года назад
It's simple Daredevil got erased during the blip after Thanos used gauntlet. And during this time without Spiderman or Daredevil - Kingpin reached the comics book heights. They can use it to justify personality changes for all Netflix characters.
@luckyasmr1374
@luckyasmr1374 2 года назад
I’m really glad that people are starting to appreciate the Marvel-Netflix shows, they were great!
@luke.2005
@luke.2005 2 года назад
Well some of them are.
@luke.2005
@luke.2005 2 года назад
I’m not exactly desperate to see iron fist again.
@viswajithsaravanan4419
@viswajithsaravanan4419 2 года назад
@@luke.2005 no one is ...I mean no
@viswajithsaravanan4419
@viswajithsaravanan4419 2 года назад
They just make iron fist asian like in the comics
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 2 года назад
Everything on Netflix was decent but Iron Fist! Beyond the main character wasn’t asian, the martial arts was horrid. Why Netflix did a season 2 was beyond me.
@WTHFX
@WTHFX 2 года назад
Seeing Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio back in character is the only thing MCU-related that I've been remotely excited about. I loved how understated, realistic and gritty their performances were and I think it's where the MCU needs to go if it wants to evolve.
@rodrign007
@rodrign007 2 года назад
Well they killed him off so
@Benmedrano4000
@Benmedrano4000 2 года назад
@@rodrign007 He was shot off screen so he’s probably alive
@rodrign007
@rodrign007 2 года назад
@@Benmedrano4000 but he was shot in the face
@Benmedrano4000
@Benmedrano4000 2 года назад
@@rodrign007 Yeah off screen
@proph3t407
@proph3t407 2 года назад
@@rodrign007 in the comics apparently same thing happens and he returns. The damage left him blind, maybe they’re going that route🤷🏽‍♂️
@popcorn243
@popcorn243 2 года назад
I feel like these returning characters will be a soft reboot, not mentioning their backstory too much
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 года назад
Agreed
@eee270
@eee270 2 года назад
As long as I’m not forced to watch the whole Netflix marvel saga then I’m fine. Because I’m too lazy for that
@ironhorse3826
@ironhorse3826 2 года назад
@@eee270 daredevil is amazing
@carterkeith8369
@carterkeith8369 2 года назад
I agree, I don’t think all of the Netflix shows are worth making canon to be honest
@carterkeith8369
@carterkeith8369 2 года назад
@@ironhorse3826 Daredevil and Punisher were the only good ones
@BigBulge65
@BigBulge65 2 года назад
I've recently went back and watched all of the marvel Netflix series, and my two favorites were Punisher and Daredevil by far. My #1 being Punisher. I can see how it would be easier to adapt Daredevil than Punisher, but I think they should do Punisher like Deadpool and make him R because he deserves it. I think King Pin was a great villain who was also incredibly acted. I'm so excited to see these characters be brought over to the MCU, because the series' are all great and overlooked, especially those 2.
@eddysandland58
@eddysandland58 2 года назад
Asher H, I haven't got round to seeing all of them yet!? But I've seen some of Daredevil Punisher Something Jones n a little bit of Iron Fist! Which one should I start with and so on (coz of the timeliness!) Thanks
@mydavegabicycle
@mydavegabicycle 2 года назад
@Paraone Ngatai absolute best Punisher. The roof top scene was ahhh-mazing as well as the cemetery one.
@mydavegabicycle
@mydavegabicycle 2 года назад
@@eddysandland58 you could do them in chronological order. You can probably skip Iron Fist and Defenders even. Thoroughly enjoyed the other four.
@Jackn17_
@Jackn17_ 2 года назад
@@eddysandland58 start with daredevil seasons 1 and 2, then punisher (season 2 is optional, as in the order), then Jessica Jones seasons 1 and 2, Luke Cage season 1, defenders, DD S3, Jessica Jones season 3, Iron Fist season 2 and then Luke Cage season 2. Iron fist season 1 was awful with the second being slightly better which is why I didn’t put S1 there. But if you insist then ig watch iron fist S1 after Luke Cage
@islemisawesome6145
@islemisawesome6145 2 года назад
Unfortunately it will probably be PG
@zipobob1
@zipobob1 2 года назад
I'm hoping they go with the "always there" path for Netflix shows.
@chillbro4601
@chillbro4601 2 года назад
Except for ironfist
@smon4164
@smon4164 2 года назад
@@chillbro4601 Or "Ironfist was there too but then one day he wasn't".
@rayquan-c1n
@rayquan-c1n 2 года назад
@@chillbro4601 yep. Ironfist is awful. Can't say any better. Hah!
@dakotatrue12
@dakotatrue12 2 года назад
@@chillbro4601 why? The actor is actually really good, the writing wasnt the best but it can be improved under Feige.
@dabrolives804
@dabrolives804 2 года назад
Well they were. As much as Erik Voss would like to hide the truth, those shows have always been in the MCU. Can't say it too much or he'll block your comments.
@warlockgaming3651
@warlockgaming3651 2 года назад
The fact daredevil and king pin are back and with the same actors, makes me so hyped. I loved the performances of both actors and they definitely deserve to be apart of the bigger mcu playground
@monkeysandstormtroopers3816
@monkeysandstormtroopers3816 2 года назад
So, does that mean that the punisher is also able to join the MCU next? Cause if so that would be crazy.
@thefightinggod4728
@thefightinggod4728 2 года назад
All i want is Elektra is back
@domblue
@domblue 2 года назад
1) Kate and Yelena’s chemistry is incredible on screen 2) Daredevil is one of my favorite shows and I can’t believe Fisk is back!!! 3) I agree I love the way that actor plays Jack, I find him hilarious lol
@Cwronaga216
@Cwronaga216 2 года назад
In the MCU the Helicarrier Nick Fury receive during Age of Ultron was given to him by Agent Coulson and at that point in MCU timeline Agents of Shield was indeed still Cannon and was directly interconnected with the MCU
@zorenknick783
@zorenknick783 2 года назад
Literally came here to say this. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was definitely cannon for the first few seasons.
@rabbitinasnowstorm
@rabbitinasnowstorm 2 года назад
Yes but these shows were never explicitly mentioned in the mcu it's a pseudo canon i think
@TheDomilex
@TheDomilex 2 года назад
Like he said in the video, it was a one way connection.
@MegaLabman1
@MegaLabman1 2 года назад
the Theta Protocol!!
@jaywithani2753
@jaywithani2753 2 года назад
Kevin feige literally said they aren’t canon but he seems to say a lot of stuff so 🤷🏾‍♀️
@nazirhussain7171
@nazirhussain7171 2 года назад
Daredevil's hand is so strong, I feel like he'll catch a brick with ease
@TheLightUpMachine
@TheLightUpMachine 2 года назад
Of course, he is a pretty good lawyer, after all.
@nazirhussain7171
@nazirhussain7171 2 года назад
@@TheLightUpMachine He is a good lawyer
@alyaadriana8122
@alyaadriana8122 2 года назад
Matt Murdock is a good lawyer that he could catch a brick.
@SpotTheAussie
@SpotTheAussie 2 года назад
i see what you did there :)
@kapil6487
@kapil6487 2 года назад
Awesome scene
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 2 года назад
Considering that Daredevil was always explicitly set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I would actually assume that Kingpin was there all along but below the pay grade of the Avengers. (If Vanessa blipped that could be why he’s out of prison)
@ryno9677
@ryno9677 2 года назад
Seeing as how they are more localized heroes and villains, you could absolutely do the “always there”. They cleaned up the streets while the avengers level heroes cleaned up the world.
@Rich-qs6kn
@Rich-qs6kn 2 года назад
There are moments that I would have thought were "avengers level threat" though, such as Defenders or the big death cloud thing that happened in Agents of shield, things like the Inhumans in AOS would complicate things too! So the fact none of that got acknowledged by shield or the avengers wouldn't make a whole lot of sense
@DocsGamingLair
@DocsGamingLair 2 года назад
Matt Murdock is a really good lawyer though ;)
@Rich-qs6kn
@Rich-qs6kn 2 года назад
@@DocsGamingLair a REALLY good lawyer
@ytuser_3122
@ytuser_3122 2 года назад
@@Rich-qs6kn You could say they were set in between 2018-2023 as The Avengers weren’t around and all went on their separate ways after Thor went for the head.
@rokeYouuer
@rokeYouuer 2 года назад
@@Rich-qs6kn No one acknowledges Ego covering a city in blue glop, and that one is MCU cannon.
@LauraCourtneyette
@LauraCourtneyette 2 года назад
I’m having a great time rewatching Daredevil on Netflix. Kingpin is my favorite Marvel villain. It’s really hard not to feel empathy for his character.
@mytravelandscape
@mytravelandscape 2 года назад
"How you Do That?" "I'm a very Good Lawyer" 😁😁
@espiritu4755
@espiritu4755 2 года назад
I think the Loki series were key for the "Soft reboot" path: now every character could have "always been there" BUT with soft differences because they would actually be variants.
@pvp214
@pvp214 2 года назад
I don’t like the soft reboot idea
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 2 года назад
The Soft Reboot = we have written ourselves into a corner we need to get out of
@UnknownName5050
@UnknownName5050 2 года назад
It’s sooooooo wonderful. Those who think multiverse removes stakes should remind themselves they have variants and ask themselves if they can die and does it matter? Of course it does. Multiverse is the best thing since sliced bread.
@midgetofthemysticarts4936
@midgetofthemysticarts4936 2 года назад
Also the MCU films do reference the TV shows, The Helicarrier was repaired via the Theta Protocol from Agents of SHIELD and is indirectly mentioned by Fury. Loki’s Scepter was located because of info relayed by Coulson to Maria Hill who was then working for Stark.
@antonisssbtw400
@antonisssbtw400 2 года назад
crazy when you know this but others dont i feel priviliged
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 года назад
no the mcu didn't reference those. that was just agents of shield seeing an opening and taking it
@carterkeith8369
@carterkeith8369 2 года назад
@@user-km4lo8zz6z Yeah I thought so, Agents of Shield tried really hard to be canon but I don’t think it is.
@cozy4920
@cozy4920 2 года назад
@@carterkeith8369 I just like to think of agents of shield taking place in the universe where thanos went forward in time and died, thus no snap. probably not the case but it makes me happy anyways
@skywalkerlive1104
@skywalkerlive1104 2 года назад
@@user-km4lo8zz6z Well, The episode where the Theta protocol was activated(S2E19) was on Apr 28 2015. age of ultron released on (Apr 25 2015) so i guess there was some pre planning or maybe its just my wishful thinking
@trevormoffat4054
@trevormoffat4054 2 года назад
Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio were excellent in their respective roles in the Netflix shows - really excited to see them added to the MCU.
@roeboy8212
@roeboy8212 2 года назад
As long as they bring Jon Bernthal back as the Punisher, everything will be fine.
@yacinealimi7808
@yacinealimi7808 2 года назад
i dont think theyll reboot any daredevil stuff, maybe rebooting some of the other shows, but they can easily explain kingpins return with him surviving the blip and using the chaos to escape a prison transport or smth
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 2 года назад
Or all the guards in the prison transport got blipped, so he could escape.
@yacinealimi7808
@yacinealimi7808 2 года назад
@@nickdentoom1173 exactly, also theyd have to make matt blip to explain how kingpin was able to regain control without trouble
@adamwarren2821
@adamwarren2821 2 года назад
In Agents of Shield there was a direct connection between Thor The Dark World, where they have to clean up the debris left behind and it directly influences the start of that season
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 2 года назад
Excatly
@solvseus
@solvseus 2 года назад
But time travel and alt universes and wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Plus Avi Arad. And Iron Fist. Neither of those please.
@SkidmoreTx
@SkidmoreTx 2 года назад
Not to mention the only reason they knew the location of the Loki’s scepter location in age of Ultron was because of Coulson teams. And the Helicarrier Nick used
@ndirish7124
@ndirish7124 2 года назад
Also direct name drop of Thanos
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 года назад
yeah but what about the fact that non of them mentioned the snap and the time travel rules and stuff
@OneTakko
@OneTakko 2 года назад
WHY DOES NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGE CLOAK AND DAGGER
@shinraninja
@shinraninja 2 года назад
cause it was a flop
@callummackenzie9218
@callummackenzie9218 2 года назад
You won’t be disappointed with No way home, it’s genuinely amazing
@napoleon1289
@napoleon1289 2 года назад
How do you know
@napoleon1289
@napoleon1289 2 года назад
I’m kidding I know it will be amazing
@tombplayer6911
@tombplayer6911 2 года назад
@@napoleon1289 maybe he has watched it 🤡🤡🤡
@ethanbob3480
@ethanbob3480 2 года назад
@@napoleon1289 I watched it today, it’s the best movie ever made imo, Won’t disappoint
@Leon-ub8pe
@Leon-ub8pe 2 года назад
@@ethanbob3480 idk about ever made lmao definitely best marvel movie tho without a doubt
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 2 года назад
I watched No Way Home yesterday and it was seriously something else. Probably the best Marvel movie yet.
@lucqas6377
@lucqas6377 2 года назад
ikrrrr
@earlymorninganimations
@earlymorninganimations 2 года назад
Daredevil is my favorite marvel character so I'm very exited that he's in the MCU
@MrDK0010
@MrDK0010 2 года назад
Been in the MCU for like... six years.
@justonian_
@justonian_ 2 года назад
Daredevil your favorite marvel character, lame. Captain America would spank his a-es-es up and down Hell’s Kitchen.
@isaiahwatkins1502
@isaiahwatkins1502 2 года назад
@@justonian_ wouldn't be a fair fight considering Cap's juiced up
@mikha_six
@mikha_six 2 года назад
@@justonian_ favorite character doesn't have to be associated with powers and win/lose to other heroes.
@justonian_
@justonian_ 2 года назад
@@mikha_six Loki would murder Daredevil.
@jerseyhammer1951
@jerseyhammer1951 2 года назад
Not for nothing all of the Netflix series made references to at least the first Avengers movie. Calling the Chitauri fight "The Incident" so it is not entirely implausible that they could be in stuff then.
@jonseyjones321
@jonseyjones321 2 года назад
It's important to also remember Sony was co-producing the Netflix shows with Marvel Entertainment and ABC. It was a Sony production as well.
@SaveDareDevil-Mx
@SaveDareDevil-Mx 2 года назад
4:11 Single Exception: Agent Carter WAS one to have been actually worked on slightly by Kevin & some other MCU writers tho which facilitated it’s connection into the MCU with Jarvis’s character ( same Actor ) into Endgame
@kevinsmithfan37
@kevinsmithfan37 2 года назад
I think its a 4th option. Technically canon, but not acknowledged beyond basic character dynamics. Everything in daredevil happened, but they will shift the tone to a more mcu friendly and won't really take the daredevil plot backward other then general/broad things. I don't think they want to wipe it from Canon because there is such good character development in those 3 seasons that it would be a shame to just wipe it clean.
@avisingh5327
@avisingh5327 2 года назад
In that case what would viewers unfamiliar with these characters and character dynamics do?
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 2 года назад
If Kingpin is free from jail I think they are ignoring the canon of S3 at least.
@solvseus
@solvseus 2 года назад
Defenders had Iron Fist in it though. So it has to be a side universe. Because otherwise, you know... Iron Fist.
@ThisIsCool45
@ThisIsCool45 2 года назад
@@avisingh5327 watch the Netflix shows
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 2 года назад
@@solvseus True, Iron Fist is sadly the weakest link of the bunch and with Shang Chi debuted in the MCU, it's hard to see him make a comeback.
@johnrb0213
@johnrb0213 2 года назад
The easiest course with the Netflix shows is not to over explain. They were always there...their stories are Familia enough and work in the mcu...but maybe not the exact version we watched. Lightly mentioning their history but fresh stories that don't need to lean on the old. This honestly offers options for anything they want or don't want to use again.
@jaywithani2753
@jaywithani2753 2 года назад
That is lazy tho the MCU has never been that lazy and it would just be disappointing. They could just do it better instead of recycling old stuff that was mediocre at best and ones like iron fist were just downright awful.
@leerussell6400
@leerussell6400 2 года назад
@@jaywithani2753 Daredevil was mediocre at best? lol ok
@vengz2782
@vengz2782 2 года назад
@@leerussell6400 It is.
@vengz2782
@vengz2782 2 года назад
John Barrella Nahh the MCU has always been smart with these things. I think they would set the Netflix shows aside and let things flow without them. Besides, they can obviously choose to do a soft reboot which would be much better than trying to mix in the Netflix universe and the MCU universe. It would be too hard.
@leerussell6400
@leerussell6400 2 года назад
@@vengz2782 you definitely have questionable taste. You probably think Captain Marvel is a better product lol.
@FollyPlays
@FollyPlays 2 года назад
I think that all of the Netflix shows will be "Canon" but events from them just won't be talked about for legal reasons
@FollyPlays
@FollyPlays 2 года назад
All of the shows could also just be pre-blip in terms of timeline
@zachh6868
@zachh6868 2 года назад
They'll probably just imply that the shows are canon without confirming it. So we the audience who's watched the shows can hold it canon that they happened, and those who didn't can simultaneously hold it as not Canon. From there altering as little as possible so we know the characters from the shows at least have a very similar story.
@smashallpots1428
@smashallpots1428 2 года назад
i dont think actors playing multiple character is really all that bad like some people just kinda look like other people if we can have two different actor play the same character and just act like it never happened we can do the same on the inverse
@heroeus8173
@heroeus8173 2 года назад
Yeah these actors played really some different roles So it can pass
@mosmaniac
@mosmaniac 2 года назад
Love your enjoyment and enthusiasm in your posts. I thoroughly enjoy watching them and love the perspectives that you and your team provide. ALWAYS entertaining! Keep it up, please !
@michaelwilley65
@michaelwilley65 2 года назад
I don’t care how they do it, I’m just grateful that they are.
@joriei
@joriei 2 года назад
And the sad thing about all this is that if Disney takes these series they will immediately lose all the mojo that they made of these good series, the brutality of them. Daredevil and Kingppin smashing their faces like there's no tomorrow until they are almost defaced with furniture, Punisher killing 100 people for breakfast on a Sunday morning, Jessica throwing people off the roof of a building.
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
That's what I'm saying. Watch people catch on late and complain later. No way will ot be nearly as good. This is about to be hilarious.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 2 года назад
If the violence is all that made those shows good, they weren't good shows.
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
@@ShadowSonic2 it wasn't. Clearly, you missed out.
@joriei
@joriei 2 года назад
@@ShadowSonic2 thank you for showing that you did not understand absolutely anything
@aaronmauer7225
@aaronmauer7225 2 года назад
I would be okay with the actors from Netflix coming over except iron fist
@LauraCourtneyette
@LauraCourtneyette 2 года назад
Right??!
@roberts4406
@roberts4406 2 года назад
Yeah the actor that played the main character cole in mortal combat would've been a much better choice. He auditioned for it and even got an appearance as the drunk fighter that almost whooped danny. Its cool he got a major role in MK though
@matthewflores4183
@matthewflores4183 2 года назад
What? I liked iornfist ahhh
@DneilB007
@DneilB007 2 года назад
I’m sorry. Who? I don’t remember a Netflix adaptation of Iron First. Did they hire a real martial artist (or at least a trained dancer)? Did they try a cross-casting trick to deal with the ‘white saviour’ trope?
@aaronmauer7225
@aaronmauer7225 2 года назад
@@roberts4406 the actor who played Cole was terrible also
@ross4452
@ross4452 2 года назад
I dunno, I like to think that the kingpin and daredevil, as well as the other netflix marvel shows were all from another universe, much like Andrew and Tobeys spidermen were from other universes. Even though its the same looking Kingpin and Daredevil now in the MCU universe, its really different versions of them. Im happy with that.
@3dcharacterartist649
@3dcharacterartist649 2 года назад
So happy to have Daredevil and Kingpin incorporated into the MCU. The whole universe has grown so much since I worked on Age of Ultron. Never could have guessed. So awesome to be a fan.
@doctorboots1604
@doctorboots1604 2 года назад
I feel like the easiest explanation is to just treat the Netflix series as an alternate universe from the main MCU. Allowing for the inclusion of characters like Kingpin and Daredevil (with their established actors) to appear without having to to any narrative gymnastics about how nobody seems to remember the very public outing of Wilson Fisk as Kingpin, or the existence of the Devil of Hell's Kitchen. Also it gives them a big opportunity to do some repair work on characters like Iron Fist and Hellcat who were done dirty by their respective Netflix series.
@BeatdownGG
@BeatdownGG 2 года назад
not Alternate, Loeb and Feige didn't like each other, so they kept the connections between the versions of media loose. Now that Feige has full reign, he can do whatever, and with Murdock and Fisk showing up in the MCU, its tying everything together. When Barton was Ronin, he went after street level threats and criminal organizations, the Avengers wouldn't waste their time with that considering they spent most o their time trying to stomp out Hydra then cosmic level shit. The only reason the netflix shows got cancelled was a power move from Netflix due to clauses in contracts. if they canned the shows disney/marvel couldn't use those characters in certain medias for a few years. This was caused by the emergence of Disney+ since at the time, Netflix housed most of disneys animated film catalog, Marvel movies etc. Smart play by Netflix.
@cryoon_520
@cryoon_520 2 года назад
matt murdock is a really good lawyer👀 🕷
@henryascott1207
@henryascott1207 2 года назад
I feel like the netflix shows (especially daredevil) are just so good that I don't think they could make something as good as seasons 1-3, I think it would be much better to say that they've been there this whole time and to expand their stories rather than reboot them
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
Yeah. There's no way in cold hell will they be able to top that series. It was just too good. It was the sole reason I got Netflix.
@omegajoex
@omegajoex 2 года назад
100% agree.
@cesaralejandro7725
@cesaralejandro7725 2 года назад
Daredevil and the other street level heroes exist in the mcu they just aren’t noticed.
@DONGLE_66
@DONGLE_66 2 года назад
Hawkeye and dare devil would be a sick duo
@midgetofthemysticarts4936
@midgetofthemysticarts4936 2 года назад
I think we’re going in circles when one of the only clear and simplest reasons are that they are and WERE always CANON. Agents of SHIELD needs to be next, Quake and Robbie Reyes need to come back.
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 2 года назад
Say that again for the people in the back.
@captainmarvelous1221
@captainmarvelous1221 2 года назад
Yes I want the Ghost Rider back
@toomuch535
@toomuch535 2 года назад
Exactly.marvel never came out and said they wasn't canon.people just try to make things harder than what it really is.but you know your going to get the you need explain this and that people.
@jeremyjackson5367
@jeremyjackson5367 2 года назад
@@toomuch535 Right? People always say “Kevin said they’re not canon,” but they NEVER provide a source. Why would he confirm they aren’t canon when it leaves the possibility open to bring them back in future MCU productions?
@SlowWinterNuts
@SlowWinterNuts 2 года назад
That's not simple though. There's elements in the shows' continuity that contradict MCU canon, such as the Inhumans existing despite not actually existing in the MCU, Thanos' Snap happening despite never actually happening in Agents of Shield, as well as Shield publicly coming back despite having never came back in the MCU. The Marvel Television shows can't _fully_ mesh with the MCU, because it's always been distinct from the MCU despite trying to say and act otherwise.
@harsheevnaik3830
@harsheevnaik3830 2 года назад
Maybe like Sony showed in Spiderman : Into The Spiderverse, the characters might have been pushed into the past or the future, we also saw it in Loki that from one point it all happens together so if the multiverse opened and the other people spread out they would end up in different years.
@tomcurl8034
@tomcurl8034 2 года назад
I think it would be cool to see an iron fist Shang Chi crossover
@jamesysy5477
@jamesysy5477 2 года назад
"When you catch a flying brick" Matt: im a really good lawyer
@ndirish7124
@ndirish7124 2 года назад
I think the easiest explanation would be that these characters were always in the MCU just out of sight. All the defenders/X-men could be in the MCU just not in the spotlight until now
@yeahboy5297
@yeahboy5297 2 года назад
Better explanation is they're all variants of main mcu timeline. Soft reboot for daredevil
@tommuinnit
@tommuinnit 2 года назад
A good villain and a good lawyer... nice
@Mackw0w
@Mackw0w 2 года назад
They we're always in the main MCU universe, there are references of the avengers in Luke Cage if I'm not mistaken.
@cptsteele91
@cptsteele91 2 года назад
They mention the avengers in Daredevil as well, the aftermath of the first avengers is talked about a fair bit
@ayeecee2631
@ayeecee2631 2 года назад
LMAO the Charlie whoooo babyyy got me💀💀
@jessicastrike5640
@jessicastrike5640 2 года назад
Really hope we’re getting Jessica Jones soon too!
@jjonahjameson8934
@jjonahjameson8934 2 года назад
I like that yelana referenced the updates to the Statue of Liberty
@rojobroko5979
@rojobroko5979 2 года назад
Daredevil and Kingpin in the mcu, it’s nice to be a comic-book fan
@MrDK0010
@MrDK0010 2 года назад
It is, but I would like to point out that we've had then in the MCU since 2015.
@solvseus
@solvseus 2 года назад
And Iron Fist! I'm just kidding.
@NavarinoDC
@NavarinoDC 2 года назад
Agents of Shield also had a major cross reference to Captain America: Winter Soldier (The destruction of Shield)
@averagejoe2402
@averagejoe2402 2 года назад
I'm excited to see Punished again. Hopefully
@pashkodreshaj2558
@pashkodreshaj2558 2 года назад
My 2 favourite youtubers Charlie and Erik in one video, the real crossover we didn’t know we wanted bit was the one we needed 😂
@curtisslememusic3493
@curtisslememusic3493 2 года назад
Soft reboot doesn’t mean to contradict the continuity before it. It means the exact opposite. Accept the continuity but soft reboot the character so that anyone can jump in and understand what’s happening at this point in time. Example: God of War 2018
@eekenny
@eekenny 2 года назад
I love Matt Murdox "Peter Tingle" LOL
@kingab9959
@kingab9959 2 года назад
Despite everyone hating, i liked Netflix's Iron Fist, i hope they make it also cannon
@yeweston1411
@yeweston1411 2 года назад
Ye it wasn’t that bad
@captainobvious90
@captainobvious90 2 года назад
People said he was redeemed in season 2, but i have yet to watch it 😅
@bigmansloth6764
@bigmansloth6764 2 года назад
“I’m a really good lawyer”
@dutchplanderlinde2779
@dutchplanderlinde2779 2 года назад
As much as I miss the Netflix series, a soft reboot would make more sense than the "always there but unseen" scenario because it'd be really weird seeing characters like Wilson Fisk suddenly acting all PG for no reason.
@emank03
@emank03 2 года назад
*The GOAT’S are back!!!!!!!!* 🔥🔥🔥 Daredevil (and now NWH) is the best piece of media I’ve ever laid me eyes upon fam💯🔥
@memeguider5559
@memeguider5559 2 года назад
to me, i really am not that fond of the soft reboot path. i feel like what we got from the netflix daredevil, as well as jessica jones and luke cage, was extremely well done. i would love to see those characters continue on. they were so developed and well fleshed out that i feel like a soft reboot would just mean retreading old stories, and honestly probably doing them worse than they were done on netflix (save for iron fist). i think the best path would be for them to continue the characters set up by the netflix shows.
@nisargvaishnav7609
@nisargvaishnav7609 2 года назад
Did not expect good old Charlie there lol...
@AngryBeachTowel
@AngryBeachTowel 2 года назад
I screamed when he was revealed😆
@zinalabddinmohieddin7342
@zinalabddinmohieddin7342 2 года назад
00:40 that was litrally my reaction just now after the episode ended
@billy_24_87
@billy_24_87 2 года назад
So Netflix shows was cannon all along…. And so as agents of shield confirmed as well, mcu is getting so much bigger like So so so so much bigger
@tombplayer6911
@tombplayer6911 2 года назад
Maybe 👀👀👀👀
@jarrodedson5441
@jarrodedson5441 2 года назад
Are u correct or u guessing
@heroeus8173
@heroeus8173 2 года назад
Unless kevin feige validates it The netflix shows aren't canon in the same universe of the MCU And agent of shield is partly canon A soft reboot is more wise
@nathanpeach5721
@nathanpeach5721 2 года назад
Can you please do a video on the cinematic order of the marvel movies and Disney plus tv shows? Cause with anything after the infinity saga I am completely lost!
@cosmic733
@cosmic733 2 года назад
They could do an even narrower line between soft reboot and always there with up to viewers imagination basically what the suicide squad did if u didn’t like the old suicide squad you can just pretend it never happened and those who enjoyed the old one they give a small hint the fact it does exist. They could just have a very small nod to the Netflix shows but never actually confirming or denying that the Netflix shows ever in the mcu
@calebrosenboom3568
@calebrosenboom3568 2 года назад
Daredevil might be one of the only netflix shows that could go with the always there path and easily pull it off. None of it's events are major enough to interfere with the MCU as a whole at all.
@BenTheBeanYT
@BenTheBeanYT 2 года назад
Just so that we have the timeline straight, No Way Home MUST take place before Hawkeye, considering Yelena is considering visiting the renovated Statue of Liberty, implying it is finished. So yes, It is easy to explain the defenders coming into the main MCU.
@dellcoc
@dellcoc 2 года назад
It is obvious when you see that SP picks up directly from the Far From Home.
@bruceleroy02
@bruceleroy02 2 года назад
Youuuuurrrrrre a mean one….. mister Fisk…..
@prod.2733
@prod.2733 2 года назад
I think the Netflix series were so well made that they can easily cross-over in the main MCU without any issues at all, really hope they didn't retcon the characters past experiences and history because it'd be such a waste of time.
@StrangersFromTheMist
@StrangersFromTheMist 2 года назад
I feel like Daredevil Season 1 is now MCU canon, but not other stuff.
@racdude01
@racdude01 2 года назад
WOOO @0:40 can’t believe you included a clip of Charlie aka Crit1cal he’s of my favourite RU-vidrs
@jamesjerk5538
@jamesjerk5538 2 года назад
Agent Carter was confirmed to be 100% Canon in the "story of marvel studios" book, so I'd say it's likely that they could just make the Netflix shows canon aswell rather than some weird multiverse thing
@heroeus8173
@heroeus8173 2 года назад
Yes agent Carter is 100%canon The agents of shield is considered partly canon And the Marvel netflix series are.... not really canon They do make reference to the movies They were intended to be canon but then they changed plans So yeah they will do a soft reboot
@hazard1319
@hazard1319 2 года назад
I don’t know tho maybe only daredevil so kingpin aswell but defenders I don’t think they would include
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
It's been canon. It was confirmed years ago. The shows reference the films.
@bladergaming9844
@bladergaming9844 2 года назад
The "WOOOO YEAH BABY!!" caught me off guard
@tekkenrulez97
@tekkenrulez97 2 года назад
I honestly really want Jon Bernthal back as Frank Castle in a multi picture deal. Or another TV series cause he was phenomenal.
@ytuser_3122
@ytuser_3122 2 года назад
0:40 My favorite cameo ever 😂
@GlassJoe1337
@GlassJoe1337 2 года назад
I agree with what some people said. It's going to be a soft reboot. They have always been there but just overlooked by most people. I think someone like Galactus needs a huge multiverse change
@SMToonSurprise
@SMToonSurprise 2 года назад
"We are literally strong" "Let's believe in ourselves"
@callumsmith5295
@callumsmith5295 2 года назад
No way home was absolutely insane.
@marinaschober2418
@marinaschober2418 2 года назад
I'm actually currently watching all the netflix shows after I finsihed Agents of Shield. Because of all the rumors and daredevil joining the mcu and I'm really enjoying it.
@DannyPageOfLight
@DannyPageOfLight 2 года назад
Whether they go the hard reboot, soft reboot, or "always there" route, I would love to see characters such as Melinda May, Daisy Johnson, and FitzSimmons make MCU Proper appearances. (Grant Ward can stay dead.)
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 2 года назад
Soft reboot and always there are the same paths.
@Alex-bs4md
@Alex-bs4md 2 года назад
Katy's grandma(I think) in Shang Chi also played May's mom in Agents of Shield as well
@joeexotic8905
@joeexotic8905 2 года назад
Just seen no way home matt murdock is in first 10 mins
@domblue
@domblue 2 года назад
Hands down my favourite moment from the episode apart from the obvious cameo was the interaction between Kate and Yelena. Definitely love their dynamic! Looking forward to seeing more of Yelena
@Thisguythisguys
@Thisguythisguys 2 года назад
Cmon - can’t put this pic & title up the same day this comes out
@MrDK0010
@MrDK0010 2 года назад
The old MCU series were always canon... They were made to be in the same universe and marketed as such, while Feige and others have confirmed this many times. Why so many MCU fans and RU-vidrs still have trouble wrapping their heads around this is a mystery to me.
@colinray4186
@colinray4186 2 года назад
Didn't Feige attempt to walk that back at one point?
@SFNDMK
@SFNDMK 2 года назад
@@colinray4186 No, I remember there was a recent article that reiterated his stanch on the tv shows
@krizzazz6051
@krizzazz6051 2 года назад
I legit WAIT for these videos! I love Erik's videos and basically are my weekly highlights!
@tombplayer6911
@tombplayer6911 2 года назад
I need my agents of shield 🥺🥺🥺🥺
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