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Kingsbury Michell Aerodynamic Bearing Collaboration 

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The first teaser video of a really fun collaboration between the very clever Steve Mould a British science educator and myself. / steventhebrave Like all things this project started out simply but became something of a rabbit hole. Check out Steve's monster channel for all kinds of fascinating warrens to go down and his take on the Kingsbury tilting pad bearing. • The Self-Levitating Ki...
Steve also has a cool podcast called "A podcast of unnecessary detail" A series of construction videos will come out on this channel showing all the machining steps to create your own Kingsbury tilting pad air bearing. Send me an email and introduce yourself if your interested in the construction drawings.

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@SteveMould
@SteveMould 3 года назад
Great video! Can't wait for the build video.
@subhasarkar7465
@subhasarkar7465 3 года назад
Same
@flugschulerfluglehrer7139
@flugschulerfluglehrer7139 3 года назад
Where is the link?
@neur303
@neur303 3 года назад
Great collaboration! Never thought I would see you two combining your forces! 😅
@AlCapwndU
@AlCapwndU 3 года назад
Part 1 of the build videos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xpwtpCnh1R0.html
@Clough42
@Clough42 3 года назад
Incidentally, this is how hard drive heads 'fly' over the disk surface.
@mikepettengill2706
@mikepettengill2706 3 года назад
oh wow, I always wondered how they weren't constantly tapping and ruining the drives. Escpecially now that they have three servos on those arms for the super precise positioning needed for the high density of information. thanks for sharing that!
@Clough42
@Clough42 3 года назад
@@mikepettengill2706 this of course means that normal hard drives can't operate in a vacuum. Though there are now hard drives that are totally sealed and filled with helium.
@petergoodall6258
@petergoodall6258 3 года назад
Back in the day - we had a guy come in and wash the platters on our disk-pack. On. Another machine a CD Cyber something-or-other you could see the bits on the memory boards. They were wound torroids.
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 3 года назад
and they fly as low as 3 nm away from the surface according to some dude on wikipedia, which is even more amazing
@twobob
@twobob 3 года назад
you read my mind James. Top man
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 3 года назад
Oh SHIT this is a collab with Steve Mould, talk about worlds colliding, so cool man
@liesdamnlies3372
@liesdamnlies3372 3 года назад
The engineers and scientists of the world would be hopeless and helpless without people like you who can create the precision tools they need to do their work. Don't sell yourself short.
@FredFred-wy9jw
@FredFred-wy9jw 3 года назад
After working 43 years as a physicist, I still find this stuff fascinating.... I am now a amateur machinist .. great to see your skills combined with Steve’s
@humanistwriting5477
@humanistwriting5477 Год назад
Well I have learned as a machinist and amateur physicist (or is that arm chair physicist?) The two careers go together like peanut butter and jelly, white on rice, and chocolate covered everything. It's only a shame that the two are not intertwined at the university level.
@cragbot1
@cragbot1 3 года назад
Talk about a surprise collab. Love to see it
@TheLolbster
@TheLolbster 3 года назад
And a really great video from both sides! Wish it happened more often.
@crashfactory
@crashfactory 3 года назад
blew my mind. assumed it was a crazy coincidence to start with...
@4GibMe
@4GibMe Год назад
Thanks. The one thing I wished Steve would have done, was, spend more time on the unit. This you did for him. I love custom fabrication, and people with talented hands.
@DvirLevy
@DvirLevy Год назад
You know what, it is my first time here. Thank you for that introduction.
@MaxStax1
@MaxStax1 3 года назад
Linked here from Steve Mould's video, didn't realize I was already subscribed to this channel.
@mikepettengill2706
@mikepettengill2706 3 года назад
it's a good one. I subscribe and keep the bell on and then have to keep checking my subscriptions directly and occasionally go to Ox Tools page directly to check for stuff that I haven't seen. You can't rely on the algorithm to show you all of any channel, it is up to something or failing at something, I can never tell.
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 2 года назад
This would be an awesome science fair project for a kid!
@davidchang-yen1256
@davidchang-yen1256 3 года назад
That is an absolutely fantastic piece of very old engineering. As a point of reference, there has been a 2.25 ton K/M bearing in constant use... since 1912, with virtually no maintenance. It has an estimated life of 1300 YEARS. Amazing stuff.
@stiv3844
@stiv3844 3 года назад
Great stuff. I work in the Hydro Power industry, and we have similar bearings (oil not air, and 100x bigger) that support more that 600 tons while rotating 300+ rpm. Great to see this demo and teach others the power of hydrodynamic bearings. The machine shop guys get mad when you ask to get a 20 inch bearing pad to 100 micron flatness tolerance, but we get 150 (0.5 mil).
@devoid42
@devoid42 3 года назад
Thanks for continuing to educate people, this kind of work is required to keep a smart, engaged, and enthusiastic next generation.
@craigiedema1707
@craigiedema1707 3 года назад
My world of science channels meets my world of machining channels.
@Zmechanic
@Zmechanic 3 года назад
This is a cool demonstration of a hydrodynamic bearing. Same principle that prevents metal to metal contact in the rotating parts in an engine. It's NOT oil pressure that does it, it's the hydrodynamic bearing effect that keeps the metal from touching even with hundreds or thousands of pounds of force.
@LegoMan-cz4mn
@LegoMan-cz4mn 3 года назад
Well, talking about that intro.. I really do apreciate you sharing all of your knowledge! I have learnt a lot from purely observing what you do and how you do it, I don't do metal working, rather woodworking, but still I learn a lot about layout, measuring, cutting tools etc (a lot more as well!) Cheers :)
@njerurichard3581
@njerurichard3581 Год назад
Steve Mould says I can learn to make stuff in this channel, so here i am.
@patrickgreene330
@patrickgreene330 3 года назад
Thanks Steve Mould, I like this guy already!!!!!
@crashfactory
@crashfactory 3 года назад
Tom Lipton has forgotten more than most of us will ever know. Guy is a living legend.
@Barbarossa19
@Barbarossa19 3 года назад
Thanks! Over from Steve's channel
@NobodyImportant100
@NobodyImportant100 3 года назад
Really cool. I’m a machinist for Kingsbury. We use a very similar model to demonstrate the principles behind our thrust bearings to customers. It was nice to have this video to show my wife what these bearings do on a fundamental level.
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 3 года назад
I honestly have no clue what that would be used for but it is probably the coolest thing i have seen in awhile.
@zachell1991
@zachell1991 3 года назад
Here from Steve Mould's channel. I think I am really gonna enjoy your videos, I enjoy machining videos and science so this should be a great combination. Also sounds like you have an amazing job, building things for scientific test seems like it would be challenging and exiting.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 3 года назад
I have used some air lift rotary tables on the big HBM's before and you can move parts weighing 20tons or more with just your fingers. Pretty cool!
@railgap
@railgap 3 года назад
I have often been envious of those things... as well as envious of floors flat and smooth enough to use them on, even if i didn't have them! ;D
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 3 года назад
Absolutely love your videos. So much skill, and so much intelligence, and yet you remain down to earth and humble. Really awesome stuff.
@anoirbentanfous
@anoirbentanfous 3 года назад
amazing how the physics are so capable of impressioning us more than anything else.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 3 года назад
That is really super cool for sure.
@felipemldias
@felipemldias 3 года назад
I love your commitment to your ideals! Thank you for an awesome video!
@jvpommeren
@jvpommeren 3 года назад
Very nice video and I am impressed by the beautiful bearing and your craftsmanship. I look forward to seeing the rest of the series!
@fredgenius
@fredgenius 3 года назад
Fascinating! Thanks Tom.
@zodak9999b
@zodak9999b 3 года назад
I've been watching both of you for quite some time. It's great to see the collab!
@miklov
@miklov 3 года назад
Beautiful! Love all the details that went into the rod with the flags, knurled tightener and everything. Looks like an interesting cross between modern tech and vintage science.
@redCrambler
@redCrambler 3 года назад
Absolutely mesmerising. What fantastic workmanship. I unfortunately have the hands of a bling elephant so construction of such an obviously versatile device will for ever be beyond me. But I will watch this again and again. As soon as I saw it working a million different ideas flashed in my head. I am in awe of your skill. My father used to be just like you. If he were here I’d give him the plans and he’d make it for me. Even just from the point of view if a classroom demonstration tool, I can tell it’s one of those things that would kindle the imagination of a teenager, or anyone really, to the point of choosing a career in hand machining tools. It’s a craft that is under appreciated and in danger of vanishing. Everyone just thinks that some autonomous robot in Japan is the only what’s such precision can be achieved. I’ll be sharing this video with my students. Just brilliant. Thank you.
@blackbear92201
@blackbear92201 3 года назад
Outstanding! Thanks for posting!
@thienvu4503
@thienvu4503 3 года назад
This is a perfect bearing to build a pulse motor.
@kentvandervelden
@kentvandervelden 3 года назад
That's pretty cool!
@moeszyslack4676
@moeszyslack4676 3 года назад
Tom, you and Robin never cease to amaze me.
@das250250
@das250250 3 года назад
wow 10lbs of force and still spinning ..amazing
@JorsMalan
@JorsMalan 3 года назад
Great collaboration
@0ADVISOR0
@0ADVISOR0 3 года назад
That's so awesome. Love the collab!
@MeiGunner
@MeiGunner 2 года назад
5:30 That so cool . Well done!
@maherzad
@maherzad 3 года назад
I was so confused when I saw your and Steve's video about the same thing in my notifications. Great collab
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 3 года назад
Thanks Tom!!! Wow that works way slower thin I thought it would. Thanks for sharing.
@5tr41ghtGuy
@5tr41ghtGuy 3 года назад
Tom, thanks for posting all of your videos! I have been able to learn so much from you and other RU-vid creators who are passionate about metal working :-)
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d 3 года назад
I can't wait for the build series.
@MazeFrame
@MazeFrame Год назад
This may be the way to make the perfect record player.
@billjohnson5793
@billjohnson5793 3 года назад
Thanks Tom👍
@davesalzer3220
@davesalzer3220 3 года назад
That’s how they hang hydroelectric generator/turbine units. Most often submerged in oil with jacking ports in the pads to get the film started. Cool stuff.
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 3 года назад
Supervideo. Fascinating doesn't even start to describe it... :)
@n1elkyfan
@n1elkyfan 3 года назад
I had to subscribe to see the build video. Thank you Steve Mould for showing me this channel.
@Ujeb08
@Ujeb08 3 года назад
thats a pretty cool demo!
@ewantheboat
@ewantheboat 3 года назад
I came from Steve ! This is cool
@tohtorizorro
@tohtorizorro 3 года назад
gathering from your brief introduction, You are an exemplary awesome human specimen, sir!
@woodenhead8887
@woodenhead8887 3 года назад
My career has revolved around tilting pad and fluid film bearings from design, to manufacturing and installation. The first one of these air bearing models I saw was one made by Kingsbury and given to Westinghouse when Westinghouse was still an empire, my boss had it in his office at that time. The other one I saw was a few years ago in a display case at Kingsbury in Philadelphia. They were used as demonstrations and educational pieces almost 100yrs ago. I’ve been fascinated by these bearings for decades, do some reading on the history of Albert Kingsbury.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 3 года назад
I would love to see some of the early Kingsbury stuff. Cheers, Tom
@woodenhead8887
@woodenhead8887 3 года назад
@@oxtoolco I can share a few cool pictures with you. Most of the photos from inside suppliers shops I can’t though. Bearings we’re making right now are 10’ diameter.
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 3 года назад
Very nicely done Tom! I love rabbit holes please keep them coming! The engraved OxTools logo is awesome ATB, Robin
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 3 года назад
now that is cool, thanks for the video and lesson..
@noahcarver1707
@noahcarver1707 3 года назад
Came here from Steve Mould. intro was a great idea, because this sounds *fascinating*!!! so excited to learn from you! +sub!
@FesixGermany
@FesixGermany 3 года назад
This is super cool.
@ct8350
@ct8350 3 года назад
Hi, Steve sent me over great work on the bearing!
@davidogle9247
@davidogle9247 3 года назад
I always knew about engine bearings working on this principle and is amazing in itself. But I'd never, ever, thought this was possible with just natural air. Wow... Thanks for sharing!
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 3 года назад
The read/write head on a hard drive floats on a film of air that's dragged around by the disc.
@1boobtube
@1boobtube 3 года назад
@@massimookissed1023 haven't watched the whole video yet but that looks a lot like a hard drive platter.
@Sixpot48
@Sixpot48 3 года назад
Got to love an air bearing!
@TheKoodus
@TheKoodus Год назад
amazing thank you!
@PatGilliland
@PatGilliland 3 года назад
Cool stuff
@GoCreateHobbyMachineShop
@GoCreateHobbyMachineShop 3 года назад
Fascinating!
@pikaraportti
@pikaraportti 3 года назад
Mind blowing!
@A3Kr0n
@A3Kr0n 3 года назад
You guy's videos are separated by one other video in my feed. Good timing
@DeXoDeD
@DeXoDeD 3 года назад
So cool!
@lepompier132
@lepompier132 3 года назад
Tom, One of the best example I could compare that, would be the heads of an Hard Drive, they float above the surface of the platters where the data is saved. Thes platters turns at 5400, 7000 or 10000 rpm to make the heard floats above each of the surfaces. And if the platters slow down or stop with the lost of power and the heads are not in the park position, the head will land on the surfaces and create a lock, in some cases, that could prevent the platter to turn in some cases. In the past with those big computers the hard drive platters were between 18 to 24 inche in diameter and when the heads would land on them they crash and leave gauge on the surfaces. That's why parking the heads was important then with those monster computer drives and in the early days of the PC hard dirves.
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo 3 года назад
that was great work.. very nice demonstration kit.. mr Mould also does a great job in educating us :} stay safe everyone, have fun when possible
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 3 года назад
Wait don't you mean have fun, stay safe whenever possible? I think I would enjoy my take a bit more :)
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo 3 года назад
@@skizzik121 :}
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 3 года назад
Fascinating
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 3 года назад
Hi Tom, An interesting video... thanks for sharing, I am off to checkout Steve's channel now. Take care Paul,,
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 3 года назад
Interesting - thanks.
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 3 года назад
My issue is to watch the build vids next or Steve's vid next. EDIT: I watched Steve's video and I should have watched the build video. Perhaps some learned something from the other but for me it was pretty elementary. I do however think I will enjoy Steve's presentation style, seems like a great host with a fair bit of knowledge
@dizzolve
@dizzolve 3 года назад
8:45 beautiful tool Tom. Hey those stones have a wonderfully soothing sound when you rub em together don't they
@nathan87
@nathan87 2 года назад
as soothing as nails on a chalkboard...
@mikepettengill2706
@mikepettengill2706 3 года назад
that was amazing. I have to watch that again until I understand what is going on.
@philallen9650
@philallen9650 3 года назад
The company i work for make the pads out of Carbon Fiber reinforced PEEK for use in large vertical pumps. The pads don't need to be lapped as the "woven" surface of the carbon fiber creates 100s of air pockets. Plus the ductile nature of the PEEK means that once the rotary motion stops the shock loading of the disc/shaft/pump impeller etc is absorbed.
@camelcaseco
@camelcaseco 2 года назад
i think it would be super cool to graph the total amount of time that the light has been on over time. might have a cool result!
@PatrickPoet
@PatrickPoet 3 года назад
You say that if it is my first visit to your channel, you are Tom, the host. That leads to the obvious question, for those of us who have been here many times, who are you?
@ronwesilen4536
@ronwesilen4536 3 года назад
Very cool stuf
@ShaheenGhiassy
@ShaheenGhiassy 3 года назад
Coming from Steve’s channels
@jackheath8184
@jackheath8184 3 года назад
i work at a waste water treatment facility. as part of our treatment process we have large industrial blowers. they consist of basically a giant centrifugal supercharger that spins at roughly 15k rpms. they supposedly spin on an air bearing. one example of a real world application. cool video.
@x0urce942
@x0urce942 3 года назад
Machine Tech also has a video about hydrodynamic bearing. Defininetly worth checking out.
@flatrangeoperator6718
@flatrangeoperator6718 3 года назад
I work at kinsbury bearing, making these every day. Quite interesting to see other peoples experiences.
@bkoholliston
@bkoholliston 3 года назад
Very cool! You probably could have a surplus silicon wafer polishing machine near you with a very similar air bearing.
@hkkhgffh3613
@hkkhgffh3613 3 года назад
From da uk! Freakin exciting!
@ericmartin5720
@ericmartin5720 3 года назад
Not a physicist but have stayed in a Holiday Inn, this whole enchilada has a very Tesla Turbine feel to it. What would happen if you lapped the pivot/contact areas to the same precision.. Enlarging the center pivot diameter might allow that surface to function as a bearing surface as well, reducing drag and extending the spin time.
@hdheuejhzbsnnaj
@hdheuejhzbsnnaj 3 года назад
Sweet.
@jjoonathan7178
@jjoonathan7178 3 года назад
Wow, that's an amazingly non-obnoxious continuity checker! The air bearing is pretty cool too :) (Ok, the air bearing is way cooler, but I can put the idea of a non-obnoxious continuity checker to immediate use)
@heateslier
@heateslier 3 года назад
oh why didn't me think of that, a gyroscope for demonstrating the gliding effect of scraped metal surfaces 😁👍
@kjellhar
@kjellhar 3 года назад
I love your channel and watch everything with joy. You have got me started on precision lapping in ways I didn't know existed before. For that I am grateful. But do you really need to do the full resume at the beginning of each episode.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 3 года назад
So when you do a collaboration with a big RU-vid channel like Steve's the potential for attracting new viewers is high. Regards, Tom
@rkalle66
@rkalle66 3 года назад
Reminds me on the internal disks in a hard drive. If you have an old one maybe you can convert the disks into air bearings avoiding polishing to the nano meters.
@mehdik348
@mehdik348 3 года назад
great
@07Stylist
@07Stylist 3 года назад
wish there was a build video
@chevystuffs5971
@chevystuffs5971 3 года назад
Would it be possible to have a rip cord wound around that brass shaft so you could really get it spinning? Does a higher RPM affect the load the bearing can take? Thanks for all the cool vids and knowledge sharing Tom.
@matttradie1341
@matttradie1341 3 года назад
Very very cool. This reminds me of the lathe on Dan Gelbarts channel built with air bearings. Fascinating stuff. They never wear out because they dont touch. How people on YT get 27million views rubbing sticks together to make fire compared to people like Tom demonstrating these sort of scientific oddities is beyond me.
@pillowedhead4489
@pillowedhead4489 3 года назад
steve mould brought me here
@kevinreardon2558
@kevinreardon2558 3 года назад
When it comes to precision, no one can match your tolerance.
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 3 года назад
lovely gizmo What's it do? I mean besides spin on air ; what applications can it be put to?
@mikeysgarage3697
@mikeysgarage3697 3 года назад
Couldn't stop that song going off in my head, duh duhh de duh duh.
@mackk123
@mackk123 3 года назад
_Drill a tiny hole through the spindle to fit a pull string_
@robertboumansour6992
@robertboumansour6992 3 года назад
Thank you very much for that video and sharing with us thank(rabbit hole) experience! Can you please tell me what the stone grit number ? Thank you!
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