Part of the VIP Experience in Phoenix on the End of the Road Tour. The first two songs of their soundcheck and Q&A. Plaster Caster and Hotter Than Hell
@Joe Manhas That's a horrible idea. Replacing Paul or Gene will be hugely noticeable, and drive away the casuals, who are the only people going to this tour. If Kiss loses anymore founding members, it'll just be a cover band.
@@IdontKnow-jt2oz You're right on everything. It won't be for us. It'll be a cash cow for younger generations who didn't get to experience the real thing. But, it's coming. Bet on it.
That's 1/2 of Kiss. I saw the real Kiss, the original Kiss in 1978. Now they have two guys, who ARE good musicians, playing the originals characters, but it's just not the same.
Cool !!! I was there for that show ..can u imagine if kiss played the concert in that clothing??? Instead of the costumes ...that would feel differently I bet..
@@annex4398 what a dick... he's giving what he can so that you get the best experience at the show...Props to the rest of the band for supporting him so we can get a full concert...
@@bryanplimer9671 after all they said their stuff about others using it, but then decided they weren’t done making money so they continued by using tracks and never announced it to paying customers, so calling them out on it is 100% justified.
Yep. I was there SOBER for the first time in MY Life to any concert. IT WAS THE BEST! I've only seen them like five times... But I was really amazed at the sound, the performance...Desert Sky has always been a great venue!!! (It will always be Desert Sky to Me) I grew up there for 25 years in the Rockin' 80's Paul had been sick. I believe he said so. He pummeled through anyway. Sorry about that. They Rocked the field and The neighborhood!!!
Um... I am certain Paul had had Corona or some sort of Sickness. He wasn't fully recovered yet. But, due to the fact the concert had been delayed for such a long time already, they were troopers and showed up. It was great!
Hi guys!! Come on Clair Bro's crew!! When Gene or Paul ask you, in a sound check... "What do you want to hear!?!?" I know this is a bit "old," but someone in the male part of the crew, grow some "testicular hair," or from the ladies on the crew... "churn up some "Estrogenic testicles" and yell out very confidently and succinctly.... **FREEBIRD!!!** The look on Gene's face will be "virtually priceless!!" I mean what the hell, I am pretty sure that Gene and Paul have plausibly "mellowed out" in the years, and with Wisdom, humility and hindsight they have done so way beyond their years!!! And not for nothing, I would imagine that Eric and Tommy will not mind!!!! And again, I don't think Gene, nor Paul will blow a gasket at that song request!!! I mean look around the venue, it is business as usual, but with a very relaxed atmosphere too, as everyone there is "firing on all cylinders!!" And just maybe that would kick start the remaining Tour dates!!!!
Remember back in the day when this kind of thing was just a bunch of roadies, techs, and a few locals? I was backstage at the 1990 Hot in the Shade show in Phoenix and I pay a dime for the privilege. I knew a guy who knew a few guys that worked in various capacities for shows like this - lighting, catering and whatnot - and ended hanging out with Gene’s bass tech for the show. What was seriously cool about it was that he thought it would be cool to sort of give me the Grand Tour of backstage experiences because I was a huge KISS fan. I’d been backstage to concerts before, met a bunch of rock stars on their way up, but never at a KISS show. So, he did stuff like setting me up on the soundboard to watch the headliner, taking me on the KISS tour bus, and hooking me up with some really special stuff to take away from the experience. You can’t buy that kind of insider experience. Yes, he offered to introduce me to Gene and the boys (would have been Paul, Bruce, and Eric Carr on his final tour) but I opted to have him get my HITS album cover autographed and passed on the face-to-face because I had met a number of big stars before and knew it was a crap shoot whether they were going to be cool or shit on you. This was before Gene Simmons’ Family Jewels, before KISS were really so engaged with fans, and I had no desire whatsoever to risk my childhood hero worship for a five-minute chat in a cinderblock dressing room down the echoing halls of an old coliseum in Phoenix, Arizona. Do I regret my decision now? I don’t think so. I got to say a quick, “Hi,” to Bruce and Paul as they wandered around backstage during the performances of Slaughter and Winger, watched Kip Winger warming up while Slaughter was on, got mildly but loudly verbally accosted by Mark Slaughter when I wandered into an open door to what I assumed was catering, but quickly discovered was Mark’s dressing room… I don’t know. I came away with incredible memories, anyway, a copy of the tour itinerary (that show was the last in that itinerary and a new one would be issued the next day), some guitar picks, an autographed LP, a few minutes holding the famous Axe bass and chillin’ on the bus. If I have any real regret, it’s that I missed the opportunity to tell Eric Carr how much I felt his contribution to KISS meant to the music and the band because he passed away not long after that. In many ways, I miss that time in my life. Selling “Experiences” by any artist (KISS isn’t the only one by any means) feels like exploiting fans - but to be fair, it feels like cheating on the part of the buyers, too. It cheapens the experience. And instead of being impromptu, ad lib, sort of people just encountering each other on equal ground, it pushes that Rock Star - Fan separation that exists everywhere else. Even if I had thousands of dollars lying around doing nothing, I wouldn’t in a million years use them to buy time with any of my idols (many of whom I’ve met, anyway). It would be too much like paying someone to hang out with me. And how shitty would that be?
@@codacreator6162 Spot on. I met Ace and Eric, in make up (and gene and paul, Creatures signing) Then the 'Lick it up' line up and the 'Animalize'(Bruce) line up. Didn't cost me a penny. (UK, 82-84) and got lots of stuff signed. Not seen them since 99, original four. I'll take that memory to the grave. I would never tarnish those memories with the current 'Kiss'.
But here is the thing: its all economics. There is no such thing as making big money from selling music any more. Album sales are more or less non-existent compared to the 70s and 80s. Touring is the only way these bands make money, so they monetize that experience as much as possible. The only thing unique they can offer that can’t be duplicated or copied is their actual person. We live in a Capitalist society, and I have no issue with Gene and Paul getting paid. This access is cool if you can afford it. And for those that say “they are rich and don’t need the money”, that is true; However, they aren’t a charity and should not be in the business of losing money just because some fans may get butt hurt. They also employ a lot of people who depend on those paychecks. The beauty of freedom: go or don’t. Don’t like the product? Don’t buy it. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to see a Kiss show. These guys are pushing 70. I don’t expect them to be like they were when they were 25. But if you think its fun, then its worth it. But can we just lose the evil Gene/Paul rap about making money? Good for them. Who cares?
@@eelecurb I understand that. But if you put yourself on the stage and say in interviews, " the band has never sounded better," and then sing like you swallowed glass and need a nap... I think it is fair to judge that for what it is. I still like them, but I am glad to see the end of the road tour be their last.
I'd love to get the chance to go see KISS playing a casual show like this, with no makeup, no backing tracks, no click tracks, *nothing*. Just the four band members playing their own instruments, and singing with their own voices.
Paul's voice isn't as bad here as it is halfway through a performance after he spends 30 minutes screaming at the audience and blowing it out. I know his "thing" has always been "rock-and-roll preacher", but I honestly think he'd be much longer lasting onstage if he cut out half the jibber-jabber between songs.
The problem with relying on upper head voice, when it’s gone, you have no foundation to fall back upon. Paul started signing with his chest and not his diaphragm years ago, even going up from Eflat to standard, in the 80’s/90’s. He’s like almost 70 now? You have to keep that foundation, if you want to maintain your voice. Look at Plant. He’s keeps his foundation, and while his high stuff and head voice is not strong, he can do it on demand. I hope this tour really ends kiss for Paul. He can focus on healing his voice, and maybe coming back like Stave Perry has, with a different take on singing.
@@paulharding706 I'd pay to see them. Afterall, I just saw the Stones in St. Louis...how many original members were on stage? Two. But it was the Stones.
@@drgwhatsthetruth3783 people act like others wearing the make up, that it's identity theft. It's just make up. A whole generation of KISS fans only know Bruce or Tommy as the lead guitarist. Or, just Carr or Singer.
Ok...name a Band that still have all original members after all these Years! Metallica? Stones? AC/DC? Maiden? Priest? Scorpions? Kiss is still a great Band.... Thommy and Eric deserve more respect than Ace and Peter because they hold Kiss together.
Paul is almost 70 and still singers better than I ever could. Would you rather have a replacement singer. The tunes are solid and the show is fun. KISS Army 4 Ever
Paul is Lypsyncin' about 4 years cause his voice is toasted. You can hear it cleary singing Hotter in this vídeo. He sings live only in a few parts of the show and its very easy to notice it. Im a big Kiss fan and i believe that Paul was one of the best singers of all time, but now they are stealing our money
Cool vid, but I was bummed when it ended just as a fan started to ask a question. Woulda been great to hear a little Q & A with KISS. Their answers here may have differed a little from their usual answers, due to few reasons- only a few people were there, and not the millions of a TV audience, where Paul and Gene are usually quite careful, guarded and specific with their answers. This was a more casual setting, right before a concert, they were relaxed, in their element, in their comfort zone, and we may have heard a few questions and answers that were off the cuff, spontaneous, interesting and different, ESPECIALLY since it was a FAN asking, and not the usual dumb TV/media questions they always get (money, their history, longevity, makeup, Ace, Peter, etc. - YAWN!) Note to RU-vid posters- if KISS takes questions, post THAT on RU-vid, in addition to the soundcheck tunes.
I was bummed I had to stop it too. I was lucky to get that much. My battery ran low and I wanted to save a bit for the show. To be honest there weren't any questions that you, as a fan, haven't heard. "How did you come up with your makeup?" "How did you meet?" etc... The most interesting question was mine, which was, "Why do all the studio albums begin with a "Paul" song except for Revenge and Carnival of Souls?" The answer was that Paul was trying to set a mood for each album and his songs just happened to do that. It wasn't an ego thing or a long-ago decided thing that he would do that.
I know! This is one of my biggest pet peeves with KISS.. Not enough song variety in the shows. Too many overplayed songs. Even after all these years, they never seemed to understand that people who show up to their shows are people who know ALL the KISS music. So they could have made their career that much better by playing music, either from a particular era or even from one or two albums etc. Wish they would have done that. It's true that they've played a lot of the deep cuts on the KISS Kruises, and I get how they would think that the fans who pay to go on the Kruises would get a special treat, but still.. they really could have capitalized on this. They could have even brought Ace and Peter back just for a part of the show.. and make that part, the last part of the show and put all deep cuts on it. The KISS Army would have gone NUTS on something like this.
Because you’re not paying these greedy fucks enough money for a regular ticket. Buy the “special” VIP tickets and you can hear some of their obscure songs for about 2500 bucks.
Kiss is great but I think out of respect for the fans, Gene should sing all songs. Paul had one of the most amazing voices in Rock'n Roll but that time is long gone.
"He's lip synching but he sounds terrible!" One, don't you think that if he was lip synching he would have used a track that didn't have as many mistakes and didn't show his age as much? And two, I mean come on, he sounds the same during the show as he does here. He doesn't sound bad at all with all things considered, some people complain just to complain.
Ppl don’t realize how many years show after show and how many times songs are sang …over and over the voice has to give or weaken eventually..as fans we are spoiled and selfish expecting them to sound like the original record and when we first started hearing them….
They don't have a vocal track for Hotter Than Hell because it's not in the set. Vocals here are pure torture, in the show he's lip syncing more than half the time. It's at the point where they're not really even trying to fool adults, just kids, because that's a significant chunk of the audience.
@@jesusgonzales8621 in truth, the voice doesn’t have to give or weaken, if the foundation is sound. Paul has been singing in his head voice, and not his diaphragm for decades, and has allowed his foundation to suffer as a result. Look at Halford. Same thing. His voice has suffered from years and years of head voice and mixed falsetto singing. Now look at King Diamond. Still killing it live, because his foundation is strong. His falsetto and head voice comes from his strong diaphragm. Also, look at Glenn Hughes. Strong foundational singer. Robert Plant, same thing. I hope kiss really ends, and Paul can relearn, unlearn, and come back like Steve Perry has.
You aren't really proving a point. I agree with you but the millenials with political shit in their pfps won't listen, they'll just complain on and on about a show they probably didn't even see.
Plaster Caster may not have the greatest lyrics in the world, but it has always been one of my favorite KISS tunes if only for the energy of the opening…
Yes, ‘Plaster’ is fun & catchy! Easy to play, too. All major chords- verse is A, D, F, G, D. Pre-chorus is G, D, F, G, A. Chorus is D, G, F, C, G. Never thought of playing it until I saw KISS UNPLUGGED on MTV. Great close-ups of their left hands on the guitar necks.
Im a huge fan of kiss. And Im in my late 50’s . Sorry to say, this is not kiss. Anyway for me kiss die the day they split their original formation. That thing “ You want the best? “ was never the same without Paul, Gene, Ace , and Peter. all together. For me that sound was unique
I'm 54 and embraced all incarnations of the band. I couldn't give two shits about Ace and Peter. Ungrateful members. They don't appreciate the opportunities they had. They had that lightening in a bottle of about 5 years. They blew it.
@@paulharding706 that's if you only listen to Gene and Paul's side. Aside from that, replacing half a band, it becomes a different band and I don't care what they call it. I saw Kiss when they were all original, Before Ace and Peter left and I hear and see the difference. There is nothing wrong with people enjoying their shows for the last 20 years, but it's just not the same for me and many other fans from the original days.
Give paul a break him and gene are dam near 70 yrs old and still playing and signing paul in the past was great but when you sign your heart out for nearly 50yrs you may have vocal issues ,there will never be another band as kiss no one can take there place in rock and roll history, yeah near 70 and still rocking I'd say they are doing pretty dam good hell when I get 70 I'll be lucky probably to even pick up my guitar
The point is Paul's voice is so bad he has to lip sync on some of the songs to recordings (I was Made for loving you... it's the same recording since 2019 at each concert!)... that mean's it's time to retire.
@@40colby oh I realize that for sure no paul voice pretty much sucks ,he blew his voice box out long ago ,I know he uses back tracks ,i guess what I'm trying to say is ,I think he cares alittle about what his vocals sound like but in a sense I think he dosnt care either hes like caught in the middle another thing is I think mostly they are just having fun at this point they've made millions I think they are just giving the fans one blast before they call it quits, I guess if you're having fun rockin out at near 70 more power to ya ,ted nugent is near 70 also he still sounds ok though ,I wish I could have made the big time so to speak ,but kiss most likely has the end drawing near I guess why they do the tracks is because one paul cant do it anymore and they want the fans to have thier monies worth I guess to go out in style maybe ,take it easy stay safe
@@allenwebster6329 .....Allen, ........you don't think it would have been going out in style back in 2001 when they announced it on VH1 as the Farewell Tour? To go out with dignity and preserve the legacy? Think about it. Original band reunites, is together for 5+ years, rides out in the sunset and ends the makeup lineup permenently. There is no bickering about Ace and Peter, the replacement members or staying at the party too long with Paul's vocal issues. In fact he could have saved his voice. No hypocrisy making comments on other bands using tracks and then this. And........... not a lot of people would have been upset of having the non makeup lineup come back together and make some more music. However, things have gone the way they have because the makeup and costumes sell tickets. And there you have it.
@@allenwebster6329 Yo Allen, you stay safe too.... but I don't think Kiss(Paul) is giving their fans their money's worth when Paul isn't actually singing... fans are paying to hear them all perform and they are not fully performing... so the fans are not getting their money's worth... if fans want to see bombs and fireworks (which in and of themselves don't make it worth their money), they can go to a 4th of July Fireworks show.... Take care.
I’m impressed they can play tuned down a whole step. I’d be reaching for what the chord “should” sound like instead of where it is. KISS for me ended with Dynasty but it’s cool to see them still at it.
I attended the farewell concert in The Gorge at George Washington in July of the year 2000. That was the last tour that you saw Ace Frehley and Peter Criss in the band. That really was Kiss saying farewell. What this video is depicting is a revenue-generating circus act that Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley want to use and abuse for as long as they possibly can. I first saw Kiss August 12th 1977 in the Seattle Center Coliseum on their love gun tour, with Cheap Trick as the opening act. That was a rock and roll show, and then some. What this video is to me is nothing like what I saw, and shouldn't be happening in the first place. I still have my KISS farewell tour t-shirt from that show. I have VHS videos of every show on the American tour.
Kisstory: Paul: Hey Gene, let’s go on another end of the road tour and charge a shit-load of money for tickets and charge double for VIP tickets so these dumbass general public idiots will buy them. Gene: Great idea Paul. Lemme get back with you. I used to drive a Ford when I was 25 so I’m trying to get the word Ford copyrighted. Paul: Great idea Gene. I’ll call Eric and Tommy and get them on board. Paul: Hey Eric, Gene and I want to go on another end of the road tour. We talked and we’ll give you an 1/8 of what we make. Eric: Great idea Paul. I’m in. I’ll call Tommy. Paul: Ok Eric, thanks. Eric: Hey Tommy, Paul called and said he and Gene wanna go back out on another end of the road tour and charge a shit-ton of money for tickets and the VIP experience. I’m really excited because this time they’re giving us an 1/8 of the profits. Tommy: Wow!! I’m in Eric. There’s only one thing. I don’t think we should tell Gene and Paul that we’ve been trying to get in touch with Vinnie V. 😳
Plaster Caster 1977 ! Can we expect Peter and Ace would play this song well just like Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer ? I can't though I'm an Ace worshipper.
Paul has been shot since the mid 90' s really. Ace saying he & Peter cld be in there helping out on background vocals, etc. Anyone who saw them in the day knows the difference. Saw them in 79' & 85"
@@The_Original_Alex_Channel maybe. It gets worse. More u use it. How much they rest their voice. If they have done 5 shows in a row it is understandable.
Paul's voice has picked up a bit. Man, most of you guys have not sang rock for the years that Paul has. I think he had some hip pain issues that were really bad and had to take pain meds for it. Some people's voices do NOT act very kindly to them while taking opium. I've seen a few singers voices dry completely out from just a couple tabs a day nevermind that harder types of opium based pain meds. I was very lucky, they didn't affect me but a very good friend of mine can't sing a lick if he takes even the weakest prescribed.
I've seen these guys more times than I can remember. Paul voice is completely Shot here. I've never heard him this completely washed out before. It's past time for them to throw in the towel
"Enough" would be the band's call, not yours. They'll go on as long as they want, and you bet for as long as they go there'll be people to see and hear them. So you lose, get out.
@@martimdesouzajunior7585 only they’re hearing a recording and when it’s not, it sounds bad. If people want to waste their money on a fake, has been group, power to them. But, they’re suckers.
@@martimdesouzajunior7585 some people settle for lip-syncing I settle for live musicians as I am I'm true musician myself. If I couldn't do it any longer and had to fake it I would stop taking money from fans.
@@beatmet2355 You're the sucker! Unless you have a lot of time to waste arguing with die-hard fans. We know the facts, you don't. So you suck anyway. Gene Simmons is up there playing his bass, Eric Singer is right behind him, playing his drums, and Tommy Thayer is to his left -- guess what... playing his guitar! So is Paul Stanley, center stage. What recording are you talking about? Paul's voice? Damn, why doesn't he lip sync to his original 70s and 80s studio tracks? That would be awesome! Just what we've been listening to all aour lives! I mean the man has given us enough, let him rest his old pipes! You must be a Lil Wayne devotee, buddy. LoL
