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Kitchen Split Circuit Receptacles Explained 

Terry “The Internet Electrician” Peterman
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Split receptacles are examined in depth including the wiring of a 3-wire split receptacle circuit from the breaker to the device.
Check out this video that takes a deeper dive into replacing these, what to consider, and discuss if you can, or should change these receptacles out to GFCI?
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@hellboundgimp
@hellboundgimp 6 лет назад
Thank you - this was very useful and easy to follow. Clear concise instructions with steady camera work. Good job! Thank you again!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 6 лет назад
Thanks for the comment Charlie! Usually only the critics take the time to share their opinion! I appreciate it!
@peterkizer6163
@peterkizer6163 5 лет назад
Thank you for explaining what an "unbalanced" load is. Much appreciated.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Happy to help out Peter! Thanks for watching, commenting, and I hope you 'liked', subscribed, and clicked the notification bell?
@leonardrempel7583
@leonardrempel7583 4 года назад
Brilliant! Thanks so much as I never would have thought to break the tab. Thanks so much!
@shanehartley484
@shanehartley484 4 года назад
I think this is dangerous if the two hots are not tied together at the panels it's possible to have both hots the same leg and then you wouldn't cancel the load you would add then would be running 30 amps under full load on the neutral which would overheat as it's only 14 gauge. . Hypothetical question. If it is done properly what happens if the neutral is cut or not connected properly or comes loose? When two items are plugged into this outlet both with floating neutrals in contact. what heppens? Nothing? They run as long as there is two electrical items plugged? They run as long as thy have a balancd load? A short? They will run as a 240V AC circuit in series (is that even possible on AC LOL) , none of the above, something different? or all of the above depending on the type of the two electrical devices? Switch loops tied in with 3 way switches are fun. Especially if someone upgrades the switch and mixes up a neutral with the power being run from the light. I think it's called a borrowed neutral. I call it why did it almost feel like I was getting electrocuted when I turned off the light switch. It seems to cycle up and after turning off the breaker and checking for power at the switch, no signs of a live wire and you tell yourself you are imagining the slight shocks and feel confident your safe, then you get bit a good blast once your fully grounded on the ladder or the ground. .
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
You are correct, if the 2 hots are on the same leg of the panel, you will compound the load on the neutral. That's why the code required them to be on a 2-pole breaker. That doesn't stop someone down the road from juggling things around and creating this kind of issue however. Yes, if you get an open neutral, and have to devices plugged in to that split circuit, the voltage will bounce all over the place if they are not equal loads (highly unlikely). So you could have anything from 240V to 0 V and anywhere in between at each appliance depending on the situation.
@alisonsmithremax6655
@alisonsmithremax6655 3 года назад
I have a split receptacle within 3 feet of the kitchen sink, so need to replace with a GFCI. I know to split a regular receptacle by breaking the tab on the hot side, but how do I split top from bottom outlets on a GFCI? It is the only outlet in both circuits, so no ‘line’ requirement.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
My advice, why change it to a GFCI? It's complicated because the shared neutral can mess you up, and you don't need to go with GFCI as your installation is grandfathered to the code rules of the day. I personally like the splits better. But in answer to the question, you can't split a GFCI receptacle.
@selaxlife7621
@selaxlife7621 6 месяцев назад
IBEW Local 11 Los Angeles chapter here. Great video, fellow sparky!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 6 месяцев назад
Thank-you so much for taking the time to comment! And it's nice to get accolades from such a credible source as the IBEW!
@dlwaterloo2221
@dlwaterloo2221 3 года назад
Terry explained this so simply, and saved me the frustration when I saw red, black and white wires on a damaged receptacle. I also now know what the little hole on my wire stripper is for. I used to use my stripper, then my needle nose plier for the hook.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Happy to help out! I hope you gave it a 'like' and that you subscribed to my channel and clicked the notification bell? That way you'll know when I release a new video! Much appreciated!
@KarlHeinzofWpg
@KarlHeinzofWpg 5 лет назад
This was exactly the information I was looking for. Excellent video! Thank you.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the nice comment.
@Tamratj
@Tamratj 9 месяцев назад
Thank You Terry. You saved me at least a $100 for replacing a kitchen outlet. I replaced the outlet with no problem at all, it was easy enough, but the breaker kept tripping. I did NOT realize the two outlets are actually connected with a flat metal clip. After I watched your video, I broke the connection between the upper and lower outlet, now both outlets work like a charm. I have liked your video, and also subscribed. Thank you very much. Tom
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! Comments like these make it so worth the effort! Happy New Year to you and yours!
@applesbighatranch6906
@applesbighatranch6906 День назад
Not an electrician, but I've played one on TV. But! seriously... thank you for this demonstration of The Olde Wayes of doing things. It remains! a useful bit o' information to have stored on a shelf in the ol' cranial warehouse. I did have to laugh for a second when we witness your unsafe pliers handling. Yes, you know and I know you had the breaker switched off, but... Kids, don't try that at home! This man's a professional, and all that. Cheers.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician День назад
Thanks for watching! I had to watch it here myself to see what was you reference to unsafe plier handling? I assume using it as a pointer? Or did it appear that my hand was on the metal and not the insulated handles? Anyhow, regardless of that, with the power off as it should be, not a problem there that I saw! Incidentally, I am an electrician, and I have also been on network TV!
@applesbighatranch6906
@applesbighatranch6906 День назад
@@theinternetelectrician You're a good sport! my good man. At one point it appears as if you almost jamb the needlenose pliers' tips into the hot and neutral slots. lmao. "Unsafe pliers handling" - that's a riff on, you know... stuff we dare not speak of in this Utopia of ours. Cheers. Best to you!
@tgts
@tgts 4 года назад
You saved my sanity with this video!! Keep up the good work!
@IanAlexanderMusicCo
@IanAlexanderMusicCo Год назад
Another sanity saved up in Montreal
@sonnylloyd2899
@sonnylloyd2899 5 лет назад
wait, what!? you make the nice loop using that hole? dang...... so smooth!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Someone had to show me that too! Can't remember who, but it's good to know! I hope you gave it a 'like' and that you subscribed to my channel and clicked the notification bell? That way you'll know when I release a new video! Much appreciated!
@MarkRichards966
@MarkRichards966 Год назад
Great presentation! How do you use this method for multiple outlets, just use pigtails?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Hi Mark. Yes, pigtailing is the way to go. Even though you have only 2 white wires and those terminals look tempting, I've had an inspector flag that and make me do pigtails even on the neutrals. The blacks and reds obviously need to be pig-tailed as there is only one terminal each for them to go on. Unless you use the terminal screw and the quick connects, but I never recommend using the push-in connections. So short answer, you are correct. Pigtails it is!
@YellowScubadiver
@YellowScubadiver 2 года назад
So, as you mentioned, I made this exact mistake. I now understand exactly how the circuit works. Unfortunately for me, my breaker was defective and didn’t pop and the main to the apartment triggered. Needed an electrician to come re reset it. Good lesson. A mistake I will never make again.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
All breakers are designed to trip on a short circuit condition, no matter if the branch circuit breaker is a 15A or 100A or 200A main. The main breaker was just quicker on the draw! The older FPE stab-lok breakers were notorious for not tripping when they should. I once accidentally cut through a live 14/2 cable on a 15A breaker, and the arcing and sparking that occurred behind the truss (where I couldn't see it) took a big bite out of my reciprocating saw blade and cut the cable right through, yet the breaker didn't trip! Thanks for watching!
@JimMcLaren1950
@JimMcLaren1950 4 года назад
Thank you just solved a problem. My daughter husband replaced old kitchen plugs with newer ones. There was no power to one of the split plugs. I noticed a red wire and black wire on the gold screws and a white wire on the silver screw. The breaker wont reset because he didn't remove the tab between the 2 gold screws. He said he wired it the exact same way as the previous plug but didn't break the tab. Does it make sense that the breaker wont reset because its 220 instead of 110 because the tab has not being removed.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
Yes, makes total sense. That is what is called a “dead short”, or a short circuit!
@JimMcLaren1950
@JimMcLaren1950 4 года назад
@@theinternetelectrician Just removed the tab on the gold screws and the breaker reset. The breaker panel was the exact panel in your video, Don't know why the had neutral wire marred and 2 jumper wires going to both silver screws, the tab was still intact on the silver screw terminal.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
@@JimMcLaren1950 Yeah, that is weird they pig-tailed the neutral, and to both terminals with the tab intact. Clearly did not understand what they were doing. Glad you have it all worked out!
@rebeccagflores4026
@rebeccagflores4026 3 года назад
Can’t thank you enough for the precise and practical instructions. This was exactly what I needed to replace my dishwasher/garbage disposal outlet. SO grateful for your expertise!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@raymondgarafano8604
@raymondgarafano8604 3 года назад
I like to take long nose and close the gap some, curling it back to the insulation, that way the wire can't come off the screw.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
A good practice for sure.
@ChrisKing-s2j
@ChrisKing-s2j 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Terry. New garage was wired when i was on holidays. I said i would install outlets etc. I didn't realize it was set up for split switches. I'll fix this very shortly. P.S I accidentally hit the dislike tab but hit the like tab twice to make up. Chris
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching! I hope you had a great Christmas, and all the best for 2024!
@badboy-kl8nb
@badboy-kl8nb 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this excellent video. I recently replaced all the outlets in my house and couldn’t understand why the kitchen ones would trip immediately. I can’t thank you enough for the clear and concise explanation!
@TroubleActual
@TroubleActual Год назад
#theinternetelectrician thank you for explaining 2phase. I am learning that whoever built my house, did not know what they were doing. Should i say, cut corners. I found 2 phase in my family room back stabbed and double wired. Makes me scared about what else is behind walls
@Speckled_Butterfly7206
@Speckled_Butterfly7206 Год назад
Me too! Both my kitchen ones were the old way and dones the speed wiring, and just now the kitchen one the ground was cut so short, like a 3 inch gap between and crimped with a metal crimp. I had to cut that off and pull it as tight as possible to get enough to connect to the ground prong. I am hoping it's ok.
@chases1083
@chases1083 4 года назад
Terry, If i were replacing a outlet wired just as you've shown us in your video with a new USB type recepticle which only has one stake for a hot wire would I just leave one wire not connected?? I certainly do not want both hooked in as that would be 240!
@eherring77
@eherring77 4 года назад
So I am doing this right now. Did you find out?
@chases1083
@chases1083 4 года назад
eherring77 Ya so I determined that in lots of kitchens they run 2 hot wires to one outlet(one per plug in). This is so you can use typically heavy drawing appliances in each outlet, with that in mind if you cap off one of the hots the outlet will only draw off one circuit. You can also confirm which configuration you have depending on weather the bridge is still on. Cheers
@eherring77
@eherring77 4 года назад
@@chases1083 thanks. Now hopefully the box is deep enough.
@CBrown07696
@CBrown07696 11 месяцев назад
The thing I screwed up on was both feeds on the same 120 leg. Works perfect but then the neutral was carrying the combined loads from both sides🤦
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 11 месяцев назад
One very important aspect of a circuit such as this is that you have to feed it with a 2-pole breaker. This assures that you can't have the feed from the same leg of the panel. The ONLY exception to that scenario is the wafer style FPE sta-blok breaker that enable connection to the same 'phase' of the buss bar. These have caused countless issues over the years.
@Eileen1319
@Eileen1319 3 года назад
Thank you so much. We live in a house built in the 70’s and we had no idea we were dealing with an old-school split receptacle. We looked everywhere to find a video with ‘red wire’ - then we found you. Thanks again 😊
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
It's not that rare! At least in Canada that is! I'm still a fan of them myself, but I'm "old school" :-) Thanks for watching, and for the nice comment. I hope that you 'like' it, and that you subscribed to my channel and clicked the bell?
@BKHD8
@BKHD8 3 года назад
Thank you so much!! This was exactly the step I did not know I needed to do! I replaced an old receptacle and it kept shorting under load. Thank you again
@als1023
@als1023 2 года назад
same
@saboorsaboor704
@saboorsaboor704 4 года назад
thank you very much for the useful video. can I change this split outlet from 120 volt to 240 volt? I have a European made device that requires 240 volt line that i like to use. I was told that it is possible by using a dual volt outlet? please advice and if possible how to wire the new outlet..thank you in advance
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
Yes, absolutely! You just need to use the correct receptacle, and the matching cord cap on the appliances. 15A/240V and connect red,black, and ground. Just cap off the white wire. That’s another bonus with these split receptacle method of kitchen wiring.
@saboorsaboor704
@saboorsaboor704 4 года назад
@@theinternetelectrician Thank you so much for your kind and prompt reply. I thought I had s split outlet in my kitchen but i dont. What is have is that there are two outlet about 3 feet apart from each other and these outlets are out of phase. When I connect one lead of my volt meter to one outlet and the other lead to the second outlet I read 240 volt. Can I run wire from these outlets to a new outlet to provide me with 240 volt? I was thinking to take.two new wires connect each wire to the existing outlets so that I have two black wire along with my ground coming from the outlets into my new outlet and leave the neutral wire disconnect In the new outlet. This configuration will give me a 240 volt outlet that I can use. It is possible? And if it is then if I am using the 240 outlet can I use the existing outlet that I borrowed the power from at the same time? Hopefully my explanation is clear enough and make sense to you...thank you
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
@@saboorsaboor704 No, you can't do it this way. However there is a way to safely do this. You need to show me where your outlets in the kitchen are, what breakers controls them, and where you would like to place your 240V appliance(s). Draw me a rough sketch and then just take a photo of it and send to terry@electrical-online.com I will explain what can be done, and if it's out of your comfort level, you can hire it done, an easy and quick job for a good electrical contractor. There should be no more than 2 outlets on one circuit. If there is an odd number of receptacles, then one would be on a circuit by itself. That one will be the best candidate for the conversion. If not, then you will have to have 2 of your existing outlets changed over to 240V
@tracyharty6969
@tracyharty6969 2 года назад
OMG thank you so much! after replacing all my outlets in the kitchen and blowing the main power several times I am so glad you made this video! Excellent sharing of knowledge!
@XPsylocke
@XPsylocke Месяц назад
Darn it. I have this wiring in my kitchen. Two outlets wired like this. I need to replace them with gfci and wired them the same way. Now neither work.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Месяц назад
Watch it again. You’ll see that you can’t wire the GFI’s the same way, not possible. And then ask yourself the same question I posed, why change them? But if you really want to change them out, email me and I’ll help you out. internetelectrician@gmail.com
@armandodemichele1420
@armandodemichele1420 4 года назад
AH! Thanks, I forgot to remove the tab to split it. Thanks! I thought the breaker needed replacing, and I do not touch the breaker box stuff, so this saved me a service call and probably a couple hundred bucks. Thanks again sir!
@angelikamariae
@angelikamariae 3 года назад
Hi. I have a question for you.. as u said this is not in the code, and it was used long ago. Lets say I have a place with this kitchen configuration (double pole 15 amps breaker as you described, and I want to change it by a GFCI outlet to be in the code.. (the 14/3 wire will be still there) in this case I should just ignore one of the phases in the outlet box (putting a wire cover on it) and then use the other phase to be connected to the gfci outlet? Just wondering if a part of being a slot waste in the panel, the breaker will protect me in the same way since it is for 240V (2 poles as I mentioned before) and I will be technically using just 120V? Is it the 15Amps that it supports what really matters? I will be protected in the same way I was before on the breaker side? I know the gfci is supposed to protect but the breaker in the panel should be a backup protection in case the GfCI fails. Your advice will be much appreciated. What should be done in this case? Tks in advance.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Unless you are re-modelling and changing the kitchen entirely, these outlets don't need to be replaced as they are grandfathered in because they were installed when it met the code of the day. I personally like this system better, but you don't have the GFCI protection. You could replace the breaker supplying them with a 2-pole GFCI breaker (expensive) if you want that, but that's up to you. GFCI and over-current (what a standard breaker does) are two different things. One give you protection from ground faults, that is any leakage of current that isn't following the intended path, so is being "lost" through some other path to ground, be it moisture, or your body, etc. Over-current is to protect the wires from over-heating due to high current flow from overloading a circuit, or a short-circuit. A GFCI breaker gives you both that, and over-current protection. A GFCI receptacle only gives you ground fault protection. The breaker feeding it gives the overcurrent aspect.
@angelikamariae
@angelikamariae 3 года назад
Terry Peterman tks for the answer, just wondering why should I pay expensive for a GFCI breaker if I can have a GFCI outlet (for the ground) and the current breaker in the panel (for the current)? Is it any special reason?
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 4 года назад
Some living room outlets are wired for the top outlet to be controlled by a wall switch and the bottom one to be hot all the time. This setup also requires that tab to be removed.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
correcto! And when someone replaces one of those and forgets to split the tab, then suddenly the switch no longer works to control the 1/2 outlet, and all the receptacles are hot all the time! And ask any residential electrician if they've had a trouble call to a home because half the outlets in the living room don't work. Walk in, flip a switch, hand them a minimum call-out invoice, and walk away!
@JulianneWeinmann
@JulianneWeinmann 3 года назад
I can't remove the tab. There is metal under the tab that keeps the two connected! Impossible to separate! I don't get it.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 года назад
@@JulianneWeinmann -- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1EHYfD_nww.html Check this video out. Also, unlike his application, you normally only remove the tab on the Hot side and not the neutral side.
@lmt200ish
@lmt200ish 3 года назад
I bought GFCI plugs for the kitchen before realizing it has split receptacles. Would it be against code now if I just replace new plugs in the kitchen and split them or do I have to eliminate the red wire and wire in the GFCI's? I am in Canada so depending on where you are you may not know the code. Thanks.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Just replace with new receptacles. You aren't changing anything and the code is grandfathered so all good! Don't forget to split that tab! Oh, and the price of the new receptacles just dropped from $25 to $2! (estimated)
@chughekta
@chughekta 3 года назад
Hello Terry, I changed my plug in kitchen from old one to usb power. I connected all the wires but power is not coming :(
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Is it a split kitchen receptacle? Black, red, white, and ground?
@schoolinstrat1566
@schoolinstrat1566 Год назад
Lol, I only blew up one receptacle , 3 fuses, and got me one heck of a shock before watching this tutorial ffs!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Then I trust that you 'liked', subscribed, and clicked the bell so that I can help you in advance of your next project? Thanks for watching!
@kitcit7435
@kitcit7435 2 года назад
Thanks alot, your video helped me alot, I leardned new trick from you, I really apprciate it.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I hope that you 'liked' it, and that you have subscribed to my channel? And click on the notifications bell so you'll know when I release a new video.
@derekmeyers8694
@derekmeyers8694 3 года назад
Thank you for the Video. Any advice on how to change the split rec. to a GFI?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Best advice would be to leave it as is. Personally I like the split kitchen receptacle method, and no need (code wise) to change it as it's grandfathered in to the code of the day. But if you would feel better with GFCI protection, I would change the supply breaker to a 2P 15A GFCI breaker and then leave the splits as they are.
@greggdoyle6757
@greggdoyle6757 3 года назад
What if you want to change a split outlet to a GFCI in the kitchen? There is no tab to break off on a GFCI? I actually have 2 separate outlets in the kitchen that are both split outlets and they are both on the same 2 circuits. Meaning both upper outlets are on the same fuse and both bottom outlets are on the same but different fuse. Help
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Hey Gregg. Yes, you have a split kitchen receptacle arrangement, and it is really difficult to achieve the requirements of the new code, which is a 20A #12/2 AWG circuit arrangement with GFCI protection on any receptacle within 1 M of the sink. You are correct, there is no way to split GFCI receptacles the way you can a regular receptacle. Trying to make this work with the shared neutrals is a challenge as well. The good news is, you don't have to! This system is grandfathered so no need to bring up to current code rules. Personally, I like the split 15A arrangement. You have 2 full 15A circuits in one outlet, and a maximum of 2 of these on one 15A, 2-pole breaker. To me, better than 1, 20A circuit for 2 duplex outlets. If you're concerned about not having GFCI protection, change the supply breaker to a 15A, 2-pole GFCI breaker (relatively expensive and requires some wiring changes in the panel in how they are connected).
@robblack6115
@robblack6115 Год назад
How do you wire this if you are continuing on to another receptacle? Also, we have a stablok panel, does it matter where the double breaker is located on the busbar to get the different phases?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Great comment! You have to pig-tail your conductors to continue the circuit to another outlet, and yes, good ol' FPE Sta-blok. The only panel that will enable the installation of a 2-pole wafer breaker on the same hot buss. So yes, you must ensure that it is installed across the barrier, otherwise the neutral current compounds instead of cancels out. Thanks for watching! I hope you have subscribed? And gave the video a 'like'!
@gelmera
@gelmera 2 года назад
damn this is close to what i'm looking for what if you want to wire a 12/3 from 20amp double pole breaker to power two areas i recently got a deck and by the door i want a sconce an outdoor outlet and indoor outlet on one side of the patio doors and then wire an outlet on the opposite side for a beverage fridge. What would that look like?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
Run the 12/3 to the first outlet (receptacle), and use a deep box there. Run a 2-wire to the other receptacle, then to switch, then to the sconce light. From the first box, also run a 2-wire over to the beverage fridge (saving at least 12 beer for me). Connect the convenience outlets to the black hot wire and shared neutral. Connect the red wire and shared neutral to the 2-wire going over to the fridge.
@michaelsantiago2630
@michaelsantiago2630 4 года назад
Thank you! I had to replace my old kitchen plugs and i keep tripping the breaker. That was the last step i forgot to take that fricking tab off!
@JuanCoolDad
@JuanCoolDad 3 года назад
What part of the tab you break off on a Leviton USB outlet? It doesn't look like the standard outlet you have.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
You won't be able to use that on a split circuit.
@dannyt.8447
@dannyt.8447 4 года назад
What happens when all first steps checks correctly until when you check for the 240 and don't have the 240?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
That would indicate that you have a stab-lok (FPE or Schneider) panel with a wafer breaker that is installed in the panel incorrectly and on the same leg instead of across the 2 hots. This needs to be corrected as the neutral load is now compounded instead of cancelled out. email me at terry@electrical-online.com and we can get this sorted out.
@VaamChao
@VaamChao Год назад
Thank you! Got everything myself, just didn't know I had to break the tab off.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
That tab has caused many a good men problems throughout the years, self included! When I've forgot, I usually remember the instant the breaker kicks back! Thanks for watching! And thanks for taking the time to comment!
@Eric-ys6xx
@Eric-ys6xx 2 года назад
Hi Terry, My Kitchen is wired that way ... but with all the new outlets that have USB connection for charging device, I would like too had one of those outlet, do I just condemn the red wire with a marrette and hook up my outlet with the black and white like usual ? Thanks
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
Yeah, that would work. However I've found those combination outlets to be way too expensive for the value added. Consider getting a plug in unit that has multiple outlets along with usb ports. Not as aesthetically pleasing, but usually have more ports, etc. Just make sure the one you use in the split receptacles has just one actual 'plug' that taps into the receiving outlet. I'm not sure if they make one that grabs both halves of the receptacle, but if they do, and aren't split inside the combo device you'd have a short circuit condition that would trip the breaker (at best) and likely destroy the device.
@Eric-ys6xx
@Eric-ys6xx 2 года назад
@@theinternetelectrician Thank’s for the response … very nice !
@torchx6449
@torchx6449 5 лет назад
HUGE THANKS! saved me tons of money. My breaker kept tripping. That tiny little bit of copper tab hint was priceless! It should tell you that on the package
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
Happy to have helped! That's what I'm here for!
@Quazar-e6f
@Quazar-e6f 9 месяцев назад
My question is what if you were installing a GFI outlet, can you still split it?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 9 месяцев назад
No, that won't work. Watch this one for more detail on why. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bLIPMLciKjk.html
@joseaguirre4169
@joseaguirre4169 5 лет назад
Thank you for your explanation in the comments of how each 120 AC phase is 180 degrees away. That explains how the one white neutral wire will carry only 2 amps difference instead of 10+12 @22A. Next, for me, to figure out how 120 volts - 120 volts = 240 AC volts.....??????
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
Jose Aguirre think of it as 120+120=240. The AC sine waves are 180 degrees out of phase so when one phase is above the 0 v line, the other is equidistant below the 0 v line making the distance between them double. Make sense? It would be easier to understand to see a diagram illustrating this. Google image an AC sine wave.
@DApolloS
@DApolloS 2 года назад
So if I had this set up and I was looking to install GFCI outlets, how would I go about installing those outlets?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
You have to abandon one of the hot wires. But I always ask "why" when people ask me this. I like the splits. Just don't drop the toaster in the sink!
@anthonytavormina2125
@anthonytavormina2125 3 года назад
You don't need to break the tab for the white wire? Only the tab connecting the red and black?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Correct!
@ronnor58
@ronnor58 2 месяца назад
Can I wire a multiwire branch circuit to 2 separate GFCI's using the same neutral. I have a kitchen that did not originally require GFCI's, but my receptacles are one separate 20 amp circuit breakers? I have already tried it and it seems to be working, but my concern is will it eventually, possibly give me problems in the future? It also raises the question, what if the incoming power shows 120 volts only not 240? Will that stress the neutral. The circuit breakers are not duplex, they are individual. I have wired it up, and the GFCI's are not tripping. I'm confused. Could this possibly cause my neutral to carry too much of a load?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 месяца назад
With what you are describing, the breakers are coming from the same hot leg of the panel, and your concerns are quite valid. Your shared neutral is carrying the compounded load of both circuits instead of the unbalanced load. So depending on how this is wired, it may be possible to make it work but you would need to juggle your breakers and put in a 2-pole breaker to safely feed this circuit. That ensures that you aren't compounding the neutral current. To have the shared neutral situation work now, you cannot have any feed-through the GFCI's The neutral would have to be pig-tailed and connected to the 'line' side terminals, and the hot wire from each breaker pole to the 'line' terminals only of each of the GFCI receptacles.
@ronnor58
@ronnor58 2 месяца назад
@@theinternetelectrician Thank you for your immediate response. From what I have learned so far, what you said is %100 in line with what I have watched on multiple channels. It confirms the circuit I currently have. I will make the necessary changes as needed, 2 seperate 120v circuit, on a set of breakers that are tied together. Mine are currently spaced apart from each other, they do however produce 240V when measured, that is a good thing at least. Thank you again for your time, and posting the videos, they're are much appreciated, I learned a ton in a very short time.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 месяца назад
@@ronnor58 One caveat on the 2-pole breaker. The old FPE stab-lok wafer breakers are the only brand that will allow them to be plugged into the same hot leg of the panel. You need to put them in so that the straddle the barrier. So see if that applies to your situation. Also the reason for the 2-pole breaker is safety. It ensures that both hots are de-energized when working on the circuit.
@ronnor58
@ronnor58 2 месяца назад
@@theinternetelectrician great point, thank you. I just checked the old system out, and both 110v did not give me 240V. I switched them to achieve my 240v, and it brought my amp draw from 20+ to 3 on the neutral. I was thrilled. Thank you for your awesome content it saved my bacon! Definitely liked and subbed! Have an awesome day!
@gary6137
@gary6137 3 года назад
Nice informative video. Thank you for not feeling the need to play annoying music like most others have.
@justincranford1
@justincranford1 10 дней назад
Good video, but one problem. 3:07: You started multitasking. You showed how to connect the ground wire, but talked about split receptacles. I found that confusing. I had to rewatch that section more than once, to ignore what you were showing and just focus on what you were saying.
@armindersidhu6946
@armindersidhu6946 4 года назад
Thank you for the reminder to split the tab, saved me an electrician call out.
@benson8686
@benson8686 4 года назад
This was incredibly helpful, saved me a lot of frustration and a call to an electrician. I never would have figured this out on my own.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Thanks Benjamin!
@J_J222
@J_J222 4 года назад
Can you add more receptacles two this setup.
@Somives
@Somives Год назад
All this time I've been over here trying to find why no one carries split duplex outlets. I just have to break the plate on the standard outlets!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
I'm glad I unlocked the mystery for you! I hope you liked, and have subscribed? Click the bell as I am working on another video that pertains to the subject of split kitchen receptacles.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Here's the new video I just released. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bLIPMLciKjk.htmlsi=tFBR_aGEvimXE5_h
@WoeUntoTheWicked
@WoeUntoTheWicked 5 лет назад
The wiring behind you looks terrible
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
That's my demonstration wall used for educational purposes / videos, etc.
@Hawk95969
@Hawk95969 4 года назад
Thank you saved my marriage
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
That's a big responsibility I feel now!
@ozzypozo
@ozzypozo 2 года назад
Isn't it recomended to use two neutral wires on this application?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
Not that I've heard of. With the neutral only carrying the unbalanced load, unless someone juggles breakers around, it's perfectly safe. Correct me if there's been a code update on that?
@danielhochohao
@danielhochohao 2 года назад
Thank u so much! U saved me from constantly tripping the breaker and spark fire the house down! On a more serious note, may i ask if its possible to add another receptacle from this set up on the same circuit of course. Basically, we need to add a receptacle in an area where the close by receptacle is a split receptacle... Can i do pigtails to create extra set of new wires from the original split receptacle circuit before it enters into the original split receptacle. Then connect to the 2 (old and new)split receptacles? Or is there a simple way to go about this since the new receptacle doesn't have to be a split receptacle. It could be a regular receptacle since very little power will be drawn from it. Maybe 30 watts at most. Thank you so much in advance for ur answer ☺️
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
The code rule (to ensure you have lots of circuit capacity in the kitchen) was to have no more than 2 split receptacles on one 2-pole circuit, and to alternate them so adjacent receptacles aren't on the same circuit. Having said that, there would be no concerns adding to these normally under-utilized circuits. You could make the additional one a split, or just pick one of the 2 hots to feed the duplex receptacle that you add. Just do it safely and correctly and you should be fine!
@danielhochohao
@danielhochohao 2 года назад
Thank you so much for ur quick answer. May i ask if u have a video showing how to convert a split receptacle with (red,black and white wires) to a regular receptacle without pulling a new line? And using the extra hot wire to make an additional outlet? Thank you so very much 🥰
@KaiWang-f4m
@KaiWang-f4m 12 дней назад
Just curious, is it fine if neutral goes to either of the silver terminal 3:51? I notice my kitchen one has neutral attached to the silver terminal close to the ground.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 12 дней назад
No, it doesn't matter. those 2 terminals are connected by a breakable tab just like there is on the hot terminal side, but with the tab intact, they are electrically joined.
@KaiWang-f4m
@KaiWang-f4m 12 дней назад
Thanks. I have a follow up question or suggestion. Maybe you can also post the receptacle you use and see they can pay you the advertisement. I like this video. My kitchen receptacle under the sink stops working. I consider to replace one. I am curious if any receptacle will work, or just the one you use. I also have 3 wires but not 4 wires.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 12 дней назад
@@KaiWang-f4m Thanks for the suggestion. Paid promotions or reviews are usually agreed upon and paid in advance. I get approached by many products looking for both paid and reviews in exchange for the products. To answer your question, if the receptacle you are referring to is under the sink, it is likely that one half is hot all the time (to plug in a built-in dishwasher) and the other is on a switch (for a kitchen garbage disposal or garbuerator (Canadian term). Check if you have a switch above the countertop and near the sink that if you turn on, the receptacle then works!
@touqirbutter9810
@touqirbutter9810 2 года назад
How to replace GFC in that kind of circuit ? As new code requires GFC on kitchen counter.
@andremaheu1
@andremaheu1 10 месяцев назад
I'm assuming i do the exact same if I'm putting a GFCI outlet? Also is a 20amp GFCI ok to use even if the breaker is a dual 15 like what your showing
@damienPJ20
@damienPJ20 2 года назад
Question.. I have a 240 outlet on my welding machine. I’d like to make a cord that goes 240 from machine into two 120 receptacles in a box. I have 4 wire 12gauge cord. Now on each 120 receptacle I have … red black neutral ground / red black neutral ground. Reds pigtailed with the red coming in. Blacks pigtailed with the black coming in. I have the tabs broken off on each hot receptacle. Would this configuration cause any issues to power tools? Grinders, lights, heaters etc… thanks!
@ScantPear
@ScantPear Год назад
My breaker is not labeled right… the so called gas dryer outlet breaker is tied to the washer outlet and when I flit the double breaker off it shuts all 110 outlets off in my laundry room… can you possibly come to my house and help me?
@jaydee3046
@jaydee3046 8 месяцев назад
I recently upgraded to a 200 amp panel. The elctrician installed split breakers where we had singles before. The expalnation given was a change in the code that requires shared neutrals for two circuits. The house was built in 1992, and I am in CA. So now if one circuit trips, another one goes down with it. So I asked if that happens, how do I troubleshoot each circuit to find the culprit. ) He said I can pry off the plastic bar connecting the 2 circuit breakers. Am I asking to get zapped when changing out recepticle later?
@surferdude642
@surferdude642 4 месяца назад
Why can't you use 2 GFCI receptacles in the kitchen and still use the Load side to feed regular receptacles in the normal fashion downstream? Clearly, you can't split a GFCI, but if you use 2, one powered by the black wire, and the other powered by the red. Create a joint for the neutral wire to connect to each one.
@spark6643
@spark6643 4 года назад
Thanks, Terry. After watching your video, it became clear to me for the first time after so long time of not understanding how a 3-wire split receptacle circuit works. I'll look at your other videos for more knowledge on home electrical wiring.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
Thanks for the kind words Egor. Please like and subscribe as I’m releasing a 6-part series of videos soon on the subject of helping out the DIY’er, and I’m working on a new course that will launch in August called “weekend wiring warrior”. Stay tuned!
@B_HarTz
@B_HarTz Год назад
So in 2023 , we’re still doing this aye.. I have yet to see /hear an electrician answer the “unanswered “ question of all time…. Can you do this using a gfci under the sink to run a disposal and washer in 1 plug?.??? (😂He’ll never answer this along with others that left him comments years ago )
@LARRYC1972
@LARRYC1972 5 лет назад
love the video! i do have a question, i removed a light in my garage and i place a 15 amp outlet thinking that my light switch would work, to turn off and on my two shop lights however when i remove the light fixture it had 7 wires 2 black 2 whites 2 grounds and 1 red wire. so test the line, one of the blacks was hot. i connect 1 back 1 white and ground to the outlet all work find , however light switch didn't turn on or off the lights also looks like the other 4 wires that i did not use are connected to my kitchen so had no lights there. grr. could you please give me any ideas how to make this work...
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
The red wire is the switched conductor. It should be connected to any lights that you want to control with the switch, along with a neutral. The splices should be all the grounds together (and pig-tails to the outlet box and receptacle green terminal), all the whites together with a pig-tail to the silver terminal (s) of the receptacle (I assume to plug shop lights into?), the red wire to the brass terminal (s) of the receptacle, and the black wires spliced together to restore power to your kitchen.
@markusdyer2173
@markusdyer2173 3 года назад
can you do this method with a gfci receptical?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
There are ways, but short answer is no, because you have to have a dedicated neutral for the circuit feeding a GFCI and the neutral cannot be shared because the unbalanced load will cause the GFCI to see that as a fault, and will trip.
@BC-yd6dl
@BC-yd6dl 3 года назад
Thanks Terry. I shorted out a plug in my kitchen and ran into this problem when I replaced it. Could not figure out why the breaker wouldn’t go back on. I disagree that it’s a good wiring style. I feel like it’s one of those little bombs that tradespeople use to obfuscate their, for the most part, simple and mundane work. In an attempt to keep the normals away from DIY. Sure appreciate people such as yourself making information freely available.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Once you understand though, it is a good system in my humble opinion. You have 2 full, 15A circuits in one outlet split top and bottom. Another over-looked benefit of this type of an outlet, is if you should move to North America from the European grid and bring some of your 220V appliances, change the receptacle to the 15A/250V, and put on the proper plug on the appliance, all set!
@paulostyles9484
@paulostyles9484 2 года назад
​@@theinternetelectrician hi Terry can I use 20,30 or 40 amps too
@domingoblanquera5064
@domingoblanquera5064 Год назад
I agree its good idea the wiring but people they don’t know its a puzzle like me when i change mine the orange and yellow wire ire connected to the gold but here you sir you told us to cut the small thing si that it come out only 120v coz if they together it will be 240v… anyway thank you so much for your video 😂
@SteveStowell
@SteveStowell 7 месяцев назад
A way to save money
@TheGregWallace
@TheGregWallace 2 года назад
Question........can you do the same thing by using two completely different breakers in the panel with two sets of wires coming into the receptacle box. 2 hots, 2 neutrals, 2 grounds?
@AdamMT1618
@AdamMT1618 5 лет назад
My kitchen is wired this way for the outlets and the dishwasher. I have no idea now how to add GFCI protection. Any ideas on how i'd do that?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
To meet the new code it would require re-wiring the kitchen with #12 wire and 20A circuits. To add GFCI protection to your existing is complicated by the shared neutrals and you'd have to have an electrician look at your particular installation to advise on how best to go about that. My advise would be to leave it as is. It is grandfathered as it was the code of the day, and unless you feel that you really would like the added protection that GFCI provides?
@tianamartin3905
@tianamartin3905 2 года назад
Hi terry, I have a multi wire multi circuit on a receptacle, it’s bees nest, 1 split circuit R B N & G, the other into the box is 2 B wires, no N no G ? The 2 blacks from each circuit are joined by pigtail, But now I have this lone black, that I think is a N. Because that’s all that makes sense. Any suggestions? Going to test. It’s been working for years p, the pigtail starting arching. So I have not reworded the box.
@franklawrence8845
@franklawrence8845 4 года назад
My kitchen plugs are fused independitly, can I add a circuit to it?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
I'm not sure what you mean Frank? Each receptacle is on it's own circuit? And fuses, or did you mean breaker?
@almason253
@almason253 4 года назад
Isn't it dangerous having the two 120v circuits so close to each other in the same box enclosure?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
Not really. Granted, they are close, only separated by the split tab, but it would need something conductive to come between them resulting in the breaker going to work to do its job of immediately tripping and turning off the source. Any 240V equipment has the same situation, for example, an air compressor receptacle in a garage or shop that runs on 240v. And in the European grid, 220V / 50 Hz is all they use in household outlets, no 120v systems utilized there.
@almason253
@almason253 4 года назад
@@theinternetelectrician Thanks
@corym2513
@corym2513 Год назад
Why the neutral on that side?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
That is to standardize how connections are made to devices. That is the side that is designated as neutral by the NEMA standard configuration for wiring devices.
@corym2513
@corym2513 Год назад
Oh.
@djkraus68
@djkraus68 2 года назад
Terry, you've solved my problem with my son's condo ... thank you so much. Why this video did not ranked higher behoves me ... it was the only video (out of 20) to provide a solution ... keep up the great work.
@davido8043
@davido8043 2 года назад
Hello. I really hope you see this because I just switched 7 of them without even seeing if the first one worked. The way mine works is red and black are on the right and two whites on the left instead of one like this video. This is all in my bedroom too. Would it be a problem if connect both the white instead of the one like you did? Thank you.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
What you have there are a little different than the split kitchen receptacle circuit as in this video. You have switched receptacles, where half of the receptacle is on a switch, and the other half is hot all the time. Hook them up as they were, just split the tab on the right side between the red and black wires. If you don't split the tab then the switch will no longer control one half, even if you miss just one of them.
@davido8043
@davido8043 2 года назад
@@theinternetelectrician you are the man!! This worked right away and you saved me time and money!! Thank you very much. Imagine doing these things without the internet? We're so lucky. I just subscribed.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 2 года назад
@@davido8043 Happy to help out! Thanks for watching!
@Seb325is
@Seb325is 3 года назад
That friggin split thing... man you’re a lifesaver 😂
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Glad to help out! I hope you gave it a 'like' and that you subscribed to my channel and clicked the notification bell? That way you'll know when I release a new video! Much appreciated!
@a_cool_daddy2918
@a_cool_daddy2918 Год назад
Thanks for the video. It is a good example of 3 wires Edison circuit right there.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Yes it is! Thanks for watching!
@heliandme
@heliandme Год назад
Very clear installation., but what happens in the white neutral white line when both receptacles are used at 15 amps each which then equals 30 amps for the single neutral line, when each line is only rated at 15 amps?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
That explanation is in the video, but here it is. The neutral in this correctly connected circuit (a properly installed 2-pole breaker) ensures that the neutral only carries the unbalanced load. So if there is 10A being drawn on one half of an outlet, and 8A on the other, then the neutral only has 2A on it. So the maximum is whatever one half may draw, even with nothing on the other. With AC power, and the sine wave structure of current / voltage, when one leg of the power is on the top side of the curve, the other leg is 180 degrees opposite. Thus 240V between them, but each referenced to neutral is 120V each
@heliandme
@heliandme Год назад
@@theinternetelectrician Hi Terry. Thank you for your written reply. Getting old I always do better reading instructions rather than listening to them. Much appreciated!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
@@heliandme My wife says I don't listen to, read, or follow instructions very well!
@Speckled_Butterfly7206
@Speckled_Butterfly7206 Год назад
**edit** so i just redid the kitchen fridge outlet and the plug in tester is showing its wired correct but the sniffer is not showing power on the neutral side. Do I need to be worried? Ok, this is one is better. I am trying to replace my moms 1990 trailer kitchen plugs and every other video starts with 3 that cuts into 5 but this one only has 3 and only 3 a hot, neutral, and a ground. And i got so worried till i found this one. Thank goodness. So i guess the hot and neutrals will just be split between the two plugs. Good thing she doesnt use alot of appliances. *The only difference i have found is the counter one went to split the tab and it refuses to split all the way down. And i found the fridge plug does have the 5 wires. So hopefully things will work.
@bh-lk7il
@bh-lk7il Год назад
Thx. Why is it important to tie both breakers together?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Год назад
Excellent question. And one that I should produce a short video on, and I will! The reason is so that you can't shut off just one of the breakers, and then think the wires in an outlet box are off as the other breaker is still on. When they are mechanically tied together, both must be off or both on. And if one trips, both will shut off as well.
@phobos_miner4288
@phobos_miner4288 Месяц назад
Marry me !!! Thank you so much. I was wondering what the heck was this red wire. It all make sense now.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Месяц назад
I'm happy to help out. Now, to the Marriage proposal, I'm going to need some more information. Maybe a short Bio, some photos, likes and dislikes, age, gender (is it even allowed to ask that anymore?!?), things like that before I can make an informed decision 🙂
@phobos_miner4288
@phobos_miner4288 Месяц назад
@@theinternetelectrician 🤣 I never thought that you will read it. Now that I catch your attention, may I ask you a question ? I have one of those split circuits receptacles in my kitchen [ In an out to a second outlet] and I would like to add in this double gag: 1) a new GFCI/AFGI - 15 Amp and 2) a double switch [ two pole ] that control two receptacles above the cabinets for LED lights [ above cabinets and below]. I already wire the LED receptacles to the gag box. How can I do that without burning the house ? Happy to pay for the advise. :)
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician Месяц назад
@@phobos_miner4288 I'd need to have more information. And a diagram of what you are planning would be very helpful as well with as much detail as you can provide. email internetelectrician@gmail.com and I'll have a look.
@rayfalcone6897
@rayfalcone6897 6 лет назад
great videoTerry.thank you sir.
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 6 лет назад
Thank-you Ray!
@ronm2099
@ronm2099 4 года назад
Would it be better to change the split circuit with a GFI outlet in the kitchen? Would this be difficult? Thanks again!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 4 года назад
Personally, I would just leave it as it is.
@naomihales5430
@naomihales5430 2 месяца назад
Can you add a light switch and light after this? Previous receptacle was 1 plug and light switch in 1 unit. I want to take that out and have and outlet and add a switch to the light. Thanks!
@clem4061
@clem4061 3 года назад
I should of watched this before !!
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@ironmike55128
@ironmike55128 9 месяцев назад
I have a kitchen switch for turning a celing light on/off. It is only using red and black plus ground, with the white unused not even stripped. How do I add a new switch to this location.
@khanswat2003
@khanswat2003 3 года назад
Quick question, answer ASAP! I have the red, white and black wire that’s it?
@adams.1945
@adams.1945 4 месяца назад
Do you have to use the quad breaker or could you donthis with just a regular double pole? And if so, do you just leave the top and bottom terminals unused?
@Star-twins100
@Star-twins100 4 года назад
I appreciate that I learned some thing from you and I did exact connections but I have no power/current on bottom one. Pls help me thanks
@damienbender213
@damienbender213 Год назад
I did everything you said here,broke the tab but only the bottom half works the top of the receptical doesn't work when switched on ,I also have two red wires that connects to the switch,I a tandem 15 amp circuit, please help.
@rcmcguyver7561
@rcmcguyver7561 5 лет назад
I have 2 110v lines going into my garage both are on a 15A seperate breakers on one 15 amp breaker is two plugin receptacle boxes on the other 15A breaker line is an outlet and light switch box is there a way to wire both 15Amp lines to a seperate plugin receptacle box to give me 110v with 30Amps without changing out a 15Amp breaker for a 30Amp?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
No, that is called parallel feeders, and is only allowed in much larger ampacity circuits such as main feed supply to larger commercial or industrial applications.
@rcmcguyver7561
@rcmcguyver7561 5 лет назад
@@theinternetelectrician ok thank you
@bonaminhrasmey42
@bonaminhrasmey42 10 месяцев назад
On separate plug 120v can you still use kettle on 120v??😊
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 10 месяцев назад
I'm not sure that I understand the question. Can you elaborate please?
@bonaminhrasmey42
@bonaminhrasmey42 10 месяцев назад
@theinternetelectrician at 120v separated circuit can still be used kettle without tripping the MCB ???
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 10 месяцев назад
@@bonaminhrasmey42 In the wiring method described here, you have 2 separate 15A, 120V circuits so unless an appliance (s) draws more than the rated current current, you can use that kettle. I hope that answers your question?
@pmarquisYT
@pmarquisYT 5 лет назад
After years of daily use, the dual breaker tripped during the night. After unplugging everything, it would instantly trip off again when i tried to turn it on. I checked the plug and saw this red-black-white configuration I didn't know of. Looked at your video and thought to myself there is no way this tab between red and black is there after 15+ years of use! Well there it was! I know it doesn't make any sense but I swear it was there. So I broke the tab like you showed and voilà, I turned on the breakers and it stayed on. How it that possible?
@theinternetelectrician
@theinternetelectrician 5 лет назад
That is weird. The only thing I can think of, was it wired using the "push-in" connections at the back of the receptacle? Or could the connection at one of the terminals have been loose? The theory being that it was never a good connection and after the 15+ years, something got shifted or bumped and the connection was completed and then tripped the breaker.
@pmarquisYT
@pmarquisYT 5 лет назад
@@theinternetelectrician The three wires are tightly connected with the screws. But you are right, one of the live wires had to be cut somewhere. Maybe one of the breakers is intermittently opened, or something. Hopefully one day I'll find out what happened. ;)
@camsmax1209
@camsmax1209 3 месяца назад
thank you so much for the lesson on breaking the tab. Awesome and solved my problem
@adsxdaz
@adsxdaz 9 месяцев назад
I tried this, and now the bottom plug doesn’t work anymore. Ha ha.
@19993gt
@19993gt Год назад
Help! I have this exact receptacle with both red and black conductors… the isn’t split and it doesn’t trip at the service. Does that mean it’s a 220?
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