You need to make more tutorials - this is THE BEST waterstart video I’ve seen (by far) I’ve seen and changed my progress overnight! Keep it entertaining, makes the lesson very memorable!!
Nice tutorial. I've been learning waterstart and the first time was a pain. The second time was much fine. One important hint that was passed to me was to start with medium/low power and keep an eye on the board just just when the kite passes at 01 : 00 or 11 : 00 to have the feeling of the board and get up on a controlled manner. I wish someone told me that sooner. Also, to keep some power when you put the board on , you could just pull the bar (but eventually it will stall) or just lock on the middle with you right hand it at 11:00 which I find much easier. Anyway, great video ;)
gr8!... i 'loose' 6h of my kite lession for waterstart and it is still not perfect... hard work ;-))))) but i'm so keen on kiting ;-))). Good tutorial. Tx. I like very much this comparison to clutch and moving sails - good hit!
Don't use leg muscle to stand up... interesting. Usually I do submarine the board, like every time almost. Assumed it was just because I'm heavier than most, but your description makes sense. I will try this next time I try to ride and if I succeed I'll let you know. The physics seem really obvious now, warm, dry, and not being hurled through the air.
Can you please explain how to maintain speed right after getting on the board? I do manage to bring the kite down to nice angle to get me sliding, but after a few meters I don't know what the combination of sheethin/swinging the kite is 😬. Thanks in advance! 🙏❤️
Sounds like all you have to do is repeat the first dive. When getting up and sliding you feel you need more power, steer the kite back up high, while leaning back slightly and repeat the first dive to gain that speed that will keep you rolling. This you can do any time you losing speed or if you about to sink. hope that helps.
That is honestly the best waterstart tutorials ever!! Thank you so much. Pls more vids. Next step turn around. It is a big secret for beginners like me
This is a really helpful water-start edutainment with its necessary and vibrant explanations. Hope that I can reflect those into reality for myself. Really looking forward to:))
"Blame it on my ADD!".. The loud beat music is distracting, when you get to the juicy important parts.. -I get that this is a really good video. May need to watch it like twenty times. :P
Thanks mate for your comment, appreciated! I am not yet the master of the audio, something seems good on speaker and then on headphones on my pc, goes online and does all kind of funny stuff.. still mastering it... and yeah fast paced! so gonna watch it again, and again :D possibly thats why the views going up haha :D
Just extending the leg already in the water on the side i want to start made all the difference for me. You dont really need a lot of power to start and you will never owerpower the kite.
Thats true but i theach it this way for a good reason - If you do stretch your leg in the water already and you not quick enough to send the stroke you will start turning one way.. same if you ride stop - sink- and keep thenfront leg straight- you twist immediately. The start and the finish position therefore has to be the ball like one. Thats my experience with many students.
Thank you for this video! I did a few of the overpowered, driving a Lamborghini without first learning to drive launches, but have since learned this much more gentle, controlled technique.
This is the one and only Waterstart video any new kite surfer needs to see. I can say this from 1st hand experience having started in Egypt in Sept. Now, I have mastered the dark are of the waterstart. My problem however, being a long time windsurfer, is feeling the board. Getting the right amound of edge is something I am really struggling with. Either I edge so hard that I go nowhere fast or I am zooming of downwind at unbelivable speed. Trying to find the middle ground - well f*** me I am at a loss. Should I perhaps try a larger / different board? Any tips are welcome.
Thanks, Winkley! SHortly - despite what it looks like for you, your problem isn't the board. If you are able to create just enough power then with a bit of a balance, and body swing you up and riding. When you zoom downwind with the light of speed you used way too much power - obviously. i just run a free lesson section on my other video, go ahead apply, and I lead your through in detail!
Helpful. I waterski and understand getting the board up out of the water. This tutorial made me more confident about doing g it under my own (wind) power with a kite. Thanks
Thanks! If you need furher guidance which i recommend, i give free lessons till the end of 2021 online! go join me! Details, and application on the link: bit.ly/freekitelesson See Syou there :)
Hi guys im currently struggling with the water start , any advice or tips that the video did not talk about or forgot to mention.(Nice video by the way Huuuge Fan 🙏)
Agree mate! Once they stopped the ride, it is time to push the bar away, also once they gain speed. But something next step. I tried to focus on just waterstart. Oversheeting only possible if the lines are not in the right length or the wind is light.
Not just the best waterstart video, but the best music/video/editing/attention-grabbing-video tutorial ever ... this should be a case study for other youtubers on how to grab your audience’s attention and turn on a fire in their hearts!
Every video always ends just a few moments after they get up, exactly when I need further instruction because I just sink like the guy does when he says to do multiple short water starts. I can do water starts now but soon as I start riding I lose all that pull from the down loop!! I zig zag it all over the damn place but it won't keep pulling once I get up! I'm using a 12m kite in 13 mph winds. I've tried in 23 mph winds but it's just too dangerous and that 12 meter tries to take me airborne! I aint ready for that yet. I just want to know why I can't continue! Initially after getting up it feels perfect and the board carries me well and it's popping across the water but then it quits pulling. I try to ride crosswind as best I can but doesn't help much. If I edge hard it seems to make it worse.. any advice will be appreciated!
Hey James! well we all been there done that, yet if you do every step correctly from the video, you should be able to ride longer. It looks suspicious to me that you are edging it out straight befoer getting any speed or putting your bodywight on the harness straight away. but can be literally anything else too. I can coach you to success even online! In case you keen: Send me a mail to zolty@epicgust.com All the best!
Excellent waterstart tutorial.... cant wait to try it... I'm a teacher and student...and I'm looking to buy my very own kite ... do you know if anybody is selling a used good beginners kite?
I tell you. because it depends on a LOT. wind speed, your kite size, etc. the reason I am teaching this way cos conditions are changing. And I want to give you useful knowledge that you can apply in different situations, instead of telling you to do a dive like this or that! you might be overpowered, or under, using the same method you will get there safely. hope that makes sense. if any further questions you have you know where to find me :) happy kiting mate :)
@@IIIIIHAlloIIIII sometimes they will tell you do this or that exactly, and that's not a great idea in a changing environment. it is more important to learn the principle than a fact. facts are changing - as a light wind fact doesn't apply in strong wind. with this method you will be able to find the right power and get going! :) enjoy your ride :)
Last lesson I made little overall progression and at the end of training my instructor let me try 2 waterstarts and i failed obviously. tomorrow iam going to make it, thanks in advance. :P
Appreciated! Right now I am in Costa Rica! Later summer Lake Como Italy. Sept to Dec Brazil! Hit me up with a message in case you need more info! Zolty@epicgust.com
great tutorial Gust! it is a good thing to compare with car driving, as a fresh newbie in this sport (10h lessons so far and few waterstarts) I myself compared it with motorbike riding as I am a rider for over 20 years. Yes we all see them do wheelies and knee down... but it aint like that. you have to approach with finesse and learn how to achieve skills and mainly get used and familiar to your gear. Take the time and follow the right and good advice... As I have seen many hours of tutorials already this one was special and got me on a point none of the others did. seen it more than once now and will surely see it again before I get back in the water, being from belgium is to cold now to get out there... keep on the good (and funny) work and enjoy this great sport
I just love your tecnic, i uset but in spanish jeje, i like more the bar in 3/4 for dive, tks for your video i hope more techers see it. Good wind and waves
Thanks for making waterstarts fun. It has always disappointed me that even though I spend 10 years windsurfing, I couldn’t get the hang of kiteboarding. After looking at my gear in the garage for a few years I’m going back out on the water. 🍻
at 8:18 in your video, when you mentioned that stop the kite first, then sheet out, at what kite position shall I sheet out or it doesn't matter? Shall I sheet the bar out and hold it until the kite reaches 12 o'clock? then I sheet in the bar, dive the kite and repeat it again? Thanks for your advise.
stopping the dive reqires tension, so until the kite is not paralelly movng with the ground and not towards the ground, you better hold some tension, when the kite is stabilised, THEN sheet out IF needed!
If I can make a suggestion to beginners, I believe that the most difficult thing about kite is conciliate the two motion, kite and board... So before starting, if you really whant to try kite, start with wakeboard (is better with cable instead of behind the ship because there are no waves) , it is very easy in comparison, you just need to concentrate on your balance over the water, and you need so little time to learn riding, I am talking about 10 20 min and you go. Instead in kite new riders have to learn 2 things at once kite (that btw is very difficult if you don't have experience) and balance on the board, and so it is very slow to learn because you sum the errors of both. I did like this (and I am not a pro wakeboarder, I went only 2 times, couple ours in total), and when i started kite the only thing I had to worry about was learning how to control the kite, result: at the second our I was riding, 4th our I was going upwind, so I did not waste a lesson. I am speaking about 2 weeks ago, now I have my stuff and I am riding "solo".
COngrats yu riding solo! Cool stuff :) In my experience, wakeboard helps but not that much as we would think. And the reason is the following - on wakeboard you are on the board pretty much till you follow the cable. Slight edging, so you follow the pull. If you do this in the kite you either will lose power and get slack on the lines or (if you keep moving the kite consistently to don't make the first stated mistake) you end up going downwind. In kitesurf basically, you consistently "brake" or edge. If you able to get enough power doing just standup and short braked rides, once you stand with a slightly stretched leg you will almost go crosswind if not upwind - as you started the whole thing with feeling the need for leaning back. Wakeboarders tend to lean back towards the end of the board, not towards the heelside edge- they do that only in turns or before raleys. It is not easy to make them unlearn this habit! The so called balance need to created here by creating power + get up and lean on your harness (brake/edge with the board and that will make you do that). For some people - i do suggest to go to wakeboard, but fairly this is less than 10%! If you use the kite right and you do the same with your body i suggest you will get there in 10-15 tries! It is all about your instructor actually. Proper guidance will take you there without the wake experience. Keep riding, and if u like give a go to this method(or tell to a waterstarting friend), you might will understand my point too :) Enjoy the powerzone!
@@EpicGust Nice to see your response :) I agree with you about the movement, of course is completley different in the 2 disciplines, infact I did not say learn to wake very good, my point was that if you try just a few times wakeboard to get the balance, at least you have the feeling of water below you, that is a completley new sensation for a lot of beginner...when you start to kite I notice that your main focus is on the kite, so it is difficult to understand what you are doing wrong with your lower body part. Of course I just started so I can not teach anything, my opinion it's based on my personal experience, but for me the balance over the board wasn't a problem at all :) ....instead I saw a lot of people (on my spot or on youtube) unable to stand up and being thrown directly downwind (the direction of the pull) exacly what happens the first time you try wake, when you have no balance. Surely this is just my opinion :) In conclusion I believe that having just a little idea of what the balance over water is going to be, can lead you to faster improvement, because you can focus more on the kite...I mean, for me was easy to change my posture and adapt from wake to kite, but as I said I am not a pro wakeboarder, I don't have any particular habit. A really good suggestion for any beginner about any activity is: don't do what it works for you at the moment, follow the right tecnique, always ...so for example you learn wake, pay attention to the differences between wake and kite, ask your instructor, and apply the right tecnique, even if you are able to go anyway (probably you are less smoother than what you think you are). I will enjoy the powerzone thx, nice videos btw, I am from Italy, maybe I will try Como or Garda, I saw your rewiew!!! Ciao!
@@leonardo8461 Of course i reply :D this topic is my life i love to change ideas! In fairness - i did exactly the same, went to wakeboarding like 10 times before dared to take my kite skills on the water. i was a land kiter and waaay afraid of water back in time. I was a self-taught guy too so that might be the reason :D LEt me know if you around! :) Have a good one!
I bet it is! Well just a short tip, let the kite drift off a bit to the opposite site (like left if you plan to go right) Dive it hard, and as the kite goes down get up and get some speed, as you turned the kite for the upwards move start edging/leaning back gradually, and repeat this like 3 times till you get speed. Very briefly this is how you do it :)
Mate, you far.from be old. Keep rocking! Met a guy not so long ago. He was 75yrs old independent kiter, jumping and all... Told me he started it 20 years ago! Both knees replaced, he was limping and walking slow. But once he was on the water he got wings. 20years ago kites were well ... Different, least to say! So you have a great career in front. Enjoy!
yeah, thats when you have spastics all over the place. I seen them enough so rather educate then just go and "send it". We agree on that that the practice is important tho! But wont work without proper understanding!
Had to make a Google search to get you, probably you are right. Very interested! Do you know why is it quadratic instead of exponential? Just cos of the kite movement? Or the way the power build up?
I appreciate the effort that went into trying to teach me. Unfortunately the music, unrelated verbal and visual made it hard to extract what really matters. I’m sorry to say, it’s not the last tutorial I need.
Thanks for your appreciation! I hope you will get there someday tho! If none of these make sense to you, I suggest a one-on-one kite lesson! Much love, All the best!
