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Kitfox - So Safe It Will Barely Kill You 

Trent Palmer
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@TrentonPalmer
@TrentonPalmer Год назад
Sorry about the beeping from the AOA! I know it’s a bit annoying. Also, quick reminder that I’m not doing any giveaway and I’m not on telegram, so if you get a comment reply from me make sure it has a check mark next to it. If there’s no checkmark it’s not me!
@ianisbell500
@ianisbell500 Год назад
152 and 172 also drop the nose the instant you loose power in a Vx or Vy climb. It is a function of prop-wash over the tail. You instantly loose down force on the tail when prop wash ceases. With a CG forward of the center of lift, the nose will drop because the tail has to produce a down force to keep it up. With an aft CG, the tail produces up lift instead. An aft CG is unrecoverable in that scenario, as the nose would pitch up, and the pilot would likely not respond in time. I am an instructor. This lesson is on the house.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Год назад
Thanks again Trent....Old Navy flying Shoe🇺🇸
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
@cluelessbeekeeping1322 Год назад
You shouldn't have said that. I'm sure they're going to add a check mark. I JUST deleted a spam message from them. Even so, Gimme a prize, YO! Errrr, never mind
@glynnelectric
@glynnelectric Год назад
I just saw this now.... Hopefully I don’t get a boat load of spam!
@Azframer
@Azframer Год назад
The beeping only makes us understand your situation.
@462rob
@462rob Год назад
NOBODY is doing more approachable, accessible videos on aircraft, flying and adventure. Great work, once again, Trent.
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 Год назад
On that note, please check out Josh Flowers' youtube channel "Aviation101".....you will really enjoy his content.
@Raypatrick66
@Raypatrick66 Год назад
Exactly
@462rob
@462rob Год назад
@@easttexan2933 Seen it. Not impressed
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 Год назад
@@462rob to each his own opinion but his flights to Alaska and the Grand Canyon, his sea plane ratings, I mean, come on man. Doesn't get any better than that.
@charlesreid9337
@charlesreid9337 Год назад
Trent is why i bought my plane. Got hurt and in debt so couldnt get my license then but hopefully soon
@MegaBarefoot1
@MegaBarefoot1 Год назад
I grew up in my dad's 1946 Taylorcraft. He was a big proponent of stall and spin recovery and we did a ton of mountain flying. As he was teaching me to fly, and just all the time in general, we would often go up a couple thousand feet and just stall and spin for fun. By the time I was 15 I could put the plane into and get out of a power on and off stall, a high wing stall, and spin in both direction. He would just say, okay, spin it 2 complete rotations left or 3 rotations right or can you do 1 1/2 rotations. Just to practice being able to control the spin and take it out right where you wanted it. Loved that plane. He had it for almost 30 years and then sold it to buy the engine for his RV-8. The RV was a kick in the pants but I missed the old T-cart. Your Kitfox and flying remind me so much of him and that plane. He had an engine failure twice and was able to glide out to the airfield. The first time we just rebuilt the C-85. The second time he got and STC and replaced the C-85 with an O-200. That plane was a whole new animal with the 100 HP! I fully appreciate the difference you feel with the new engine. It's an awesome experience.
@moteroargentino7944
@moteroargentino7944 Год назад
I feel like I watched a 10 min Kitfox ad, and I loved every second of it.
@malcolmellis9654
@malcolmellis9654 Год назад
all of Trent's posts are an ad for kitfox..I wldn't buy anything else after watching them...lol..but I'm broke so I'm building a Legal Eagle...🤠
@diggitydaxton2872
@diggitydaxton2872 Год назад
I love your newer style of making documentaries on pilots and how they use flying in their lives, while also having a touch of your own flying shenanigans, while also showing us things from you personal life like building a house. Great work Trent!
@seanlannigan5109
@seanlannigan5109 Год назад
Almost 30 years ago, my grandfather had recently sold his Aeronca Chief, then got the itch again, and bought a Kitfox, and I, at 15, got to watch him build it from start to finish. He splurged and got a larger motor and put it on floats, so that obviously changed the stall characteristics and overall manoeuvrability slightly, but he still raved about how amazing and easy this plane was to fly. Cancer unfortunately got him shortly after building it, but every time I watch one of your videos I think of him, which puts a smile on my face 😊
@rogerguinn4619
@rogerguinn4619 Год назад
I can almost guarantee that it is intentional, speaking as someone who has spent a long career in aerospace design and analysis.
@winchesternathan
@winchesternathan Год назад
I worked for Dan Denney back in 1984 to 1985 when he was building KITFOX kits out of a warehouse near Curtis St and I-84 in Boise, ID. I made flaperons and put kits together in crates to ship all over the US. A basic kit back then was about 10 Grand. We had 3 engine options and were just starting to have floats as an option for people that wanted a KITFOX float plane. Good stuff.
@tulw2728
@tulw2728 Год назад
How much are the kitfox now?
@winchesternathan
@winchesternathan Год назад
Unsure. $20K to $40K depending on options ... that would be my guess.
@tulw2728
@tulw2728 Год назад
@@winchesternathan Tnx.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate Год назад
Love the technical stuff! I became aware of the "junkers-style" flaperons' unique characteristic shortly after getting our plane (not a Kitfox, but very similar). The other benefit of being able to "lift a stalled wing" - as you said - is it makes those very slow approaches just above stall speed safer, since you can actually use the ailerons to keep the wings level without fear of stalling a wing like on a Supercub for example where you can only use rudder. But I fear it might teach bad habits 😏
@TrentonPalmer
@TrentonPalmer Год назад
I do worry about the habits it teaches
@LonMoer
@LonMoer Год назад
@@TrentonPalmer Junkers = yeung kers ;)
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 Год назад
I inadvertently put myself into a spin during my PP training. I was doing solo practice power off stalls in a 172. I had done them several times with my instructor and solo just fine. However one time I didn’t recover and the plane dumped hard left after adding power. Within a second or two, I was nose straight down spinning what felt like an eternity. Two things saved me though…1) always do stall practice higher. I was close to 2500 AGL. And about a week earlier my instructor informally told me “PEAR” for spin recovery. P-Power down or Pull throttle. E-Elevators neutral. A-Ailerons neutral. R-Rudder hard to opposite side of spin. Having seen the Earth spin around a few times directly ahead of me, PEAR came into my head. I immediately pulled the throttle, yoke was straight, and smashed the right rudder pedal. Within a second, the plane stopped spinning and I was able to slowly raise the nose and level out around 2000’ AGL followed by adding power. I had lost close to 500’ within seconds. Scared the sh** out of me, but I was thankful my instructor took some time to explain spins during a lesson. Something I think should definitely be taught during training. Also thankful, the 172 is an easy plane to recover.
@valkyriesride129
@valkyriesride129 Год назад
Spin recovery was one of the first thing I was taught in the 172. Love practicing them. Such an easy recovery. But once again, always around 3000 agl. Yup, lose 500' in the blink of an eye, practicing gets that down.
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 Год назад
@@valkyriesride129 It's not really taught anymore since it isn't tested, at least for PP. I wish I had done it the first time with the instructor in the plane, but I know now I can get myself out if/when it happens again.
@sandyprice
@sandyprice Год назад
I went into a spin in a 172 power on stall also. My instructor yelled "my plane" and it didn't make a full rotation before he recovered. I didn't catch what he did, so I asked him what he did and he indicated "PEAR" as well. Unfortunately they can't teach (us in the U.S.) spins in a 172 as it's not rated as aerobatic. Jason Miller suggests going and finding someone to teach them to you in such a plane. I have not done so, but I am more careful in power-on stalls after that.
@thatstinsongirl
@thatstinsongirl Год назад
@@sandyprice 172s are approved for spins in the utility category. Unfortunately most flying clubs and flight schools prohibit spin instruction in their aircraft even though it can be done safely and legally. It’s hard on gyros but spin training is priceless (and has kept me out of trouble on more than one occasion).
@davidrush4908
@davidrush4908 Год назад
During my PP training instructor had combined power on stalls with simulated instrumentt at about 4000 agl.I failed to maintain coordination and spun the plane.I recognized what was happening and recovered, but lost about 1500 ft in the process. Instructor sat there with his arms crossed and just said "Nice spin". Lesson learned: Proper coordination is critical, and had this happened during takeoff it would quite likely be fatal.
@nuvostef
@nuvostef Год назад
This was an excellent talk, Trent. I have never heard a better explanation of how a Junkers-style flaperon works. Thank you. Stay safe. 😊🤙🏼
@realulli
@realulli Год назад
Thanks for capitalizing the name. I was trying to remember on which vintage German aircraft I saw it. I thought they had it on the Fieseler Storch, but yeah, the Ju-52 also has these flaperons (I'm really not sure if they're flaperons or just ailerons, but I'll check if I get the chance. *thinks* I'm planning to visit a friend this week or next week, requiring me to go past Technikmuseum Sinsheim. I could just stop and check if the cockpit has a flaps handle... ;-)
@nuvostef
@nuvostef Год назад
@@realulli That would be fun to know! 😊
@aviatortrevor
@aviatortrevor Год назад
"Region of reverse command" I suppose could apply to how using ailerons to stop a spin is counter productive, but traditionally that phrase applies to the "back side of the power/drag curve" where you have to increase power to maintain a slower airspeed.
@jayski9410
@jayski9410 Год назад
Trent at the end where you picked up the camera and walked in front of the nose, did you notice what a magnificent silhouette on the ground the Kitfox was casting with it's shadow? You almost achieved the kind of visual drama that the old "film noir" directors used to strive for with their fancy lighting. Only you did it in bright sunlight, in the middle of a desert.
@cessnateur
@cessnateur Год назад
Great video! Loving this blend of adventure, education, and features of other pilots and the flying they do.
@PNH750
@PNH750 Год назад
During WW2, the Fairey Aircaft Company, in Great Britain, specialised in building planes where the flaps were set below the wing trailing edge. At the time these were called Youngman Flaps. On some of their aircraft these could be set to act as dive brakes.
@larrysanxter6343
@larrysanxter6343 Год назад
Trent, I so admire your aerodynamic explanations in this vid. They are prercise, correct and understandable. Thank you for your safe and correct description of this aerodynamic maneuver in the Kitfox. Good job man.
@briancollins8237
@briancollins8237 Год назад
Excellent teaching! Videos like this save lives! In approaching technical aspects of spin stalls and putting it in discussion, you are helping to build awareness for pilots of all aircraft.
@DanielSDiehl
@DanielSDiehl Год назад
Thanks for sharing. I just passed my checkride a week and a half ago, so still being a relatively new pilot, these exact problems are always in the back of my mind. Being prepared for a stall, knowing how they happen, and practicing is the best solution.
@martinmiller1087
@martinmiller1087 Год назад
Great video Trent. Brain fully fueled, fully engaged. Every time you fly, you become a better pilot. ... Pilots are my favorite people, bar none. ... I sorely miss those Flying Cowboy rendezvous. Low & Slow to Oshkosh was epic. I certainly hope you'll be instrumental in bringing the Flying Cowboys back together ASAP.
@walkercustoms
@walkercustoms Год назад
We have miniature Piper Cub, bought it a little damaged years ago. It was never flown just crow hopped but it's ground anchors gave way in a wind and flipped it over. Hope to fix and fly it someday. The engine is hardly used but I'm sure will need a full rebuild to be safe also.
@ushouldntjudgeme3683
@ushouldntjudgeme3683 Год назад
Is it a J-3 Kitten, N3 Pup?
@greglong2784
@greglong2784 Год назад
I like the safety orientation of this video. Keep them coming. Great for new pilots and the aviation community. Thanks.
@craigwhiting4255
@craigwhiting4255 Год назад
Very informative. With my CFI we were having a hard time with both power off and power on stalls. On power off stalls there was no need to firewall when recovering. So much different than the cubs I was in before. These videos are a big help, thank you for doing them. BTW your brother is awesome at helping all of us out on the 2 Kitfox FB pages.
@richardcollins3825
@richardcollins3825 Год назад
I love that we can pull the stick all the way back and just feel the buffet long before the stall (in straight and level flight). Great airplanes. Another great video Trent!!
@redbaron0949
@redbaron0949 Год назад
Love your channel Trent, you always explain very well, always find interesting content even us old guys aren't aware of.
@Kwajdaddy1
@Kwajdaddy1 Год назад
Excellent topic and discussion Trent! Very well told and with great explanations. Keep up the good work!
@finnmaccool3385
@finnmaccool3385 Год назад
Cool video Trent. I have limited flight experience (solo circuits was my limit) and I love how you speak to that type of audience (and those with even less experience than me) in an informative yet understated manner. Appreciate your content.
@lurking0death
@lurking0death Год назад
You are a good communicator of flight. This and your tail wheel monster flick are really well done and easy to understand.
@marlynfps5835
@marlynfps5835 Год назад
Trent, i've been debating on getting my PPL just to get a KItfox to fly around my small town. This video just helped me make up my mind and fully pursue my dream hobby. Thanks for the very informational video!
@ronpalmer2u
@ronpalmer2u Год назад
Good video. I owned a Lance with retractable wheels and 7 seats. The 7th seat was an isle seat that could be removed. I flew it for 10 years. I am instrument rated and instrument panel had DME (Distance Measuring Equipment) which I could program the entire flight by moving all the VOR's into a straight line to my destination. The auto pilot flew the VOR and kept the needle centered. I could file instrument or visual flight plans direct. The Cabin was fairly quiet and very nice. I am now 84 with medical problems that prevent me flying. My wife and I flew to the Bahamas, Key West, New York Kennedy Airport, Flew over the Statue of Liberty, Space Shuttle and down the shuttle runway. Mountain certified at Lead Ville, Colorado. Anyway I loved to fly. Be Safe. Thank You.
@luke_atthat
@luke_atthat Год назад
Yes, a Gorgeous plane very safe! On FS2020 simulator with the Freedom Fox, I staled and crash few times at departure as I was so lazy to be careful. Normally you give full throttle and you get up quickly. But I was turning carelessly as I was getting higher. And one wing staled. But If you stay more focus, never a problem. So I agree, your Kitfox is one of the safest plane! Nice video again! Thanks!
@aaronseel9345
@aaronseel9345 Год назад
8:15-8:45: pure genius by Trent, because of his knowledge of the kitfox, and by Kitfox, because of the design. That's the best 30 seconds of instruction any student pilot will ever receive. Well done, sir!
@williamridgeway9988
@williamridgeway9988 Год назад
In Canada we train for spins to get out private pilots licence. Though I agree the kit fox is very hard to get to spin I think the training is crucial even though the scenario has to be forced. When on short final and someone unexpectedly get infront of you your low slow and sloppy things happen. Get an instructor to do it with you. It’s not scary when you learn how to recover. Take car fly safe and I love the videos. Keep it up !!
@microcolonel
@microcolonel Год назад
They used to focus on this in the U.S. but found that more people died training for spins than experiencing them unintentionally... At least that's the story as I've heard it.
@donady341
@donady341 Год назад
Great description of the spin and how to recover. Just finished my PPL and you were a great part of inspiring me to actually finish it. Thanks for that. It was challenging.
@notpoliticallycorrect
@notpoliticallycorrect 10 месяцев назад
Excellent channel! You articulate your information on your airplane, stalls, and spins, very well! Best of flying!
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 Год назад
I love that I recognize what you talk about from flying the MSFS addon of your plane! Always find that so cool... Keep up the amazing work!
@jb5-pct
@jb5-pct Год назад
Yes! Excellent discussion! Thank you, Trent.
@resaca5367
@resaca5367 Год назад
Hi Trent! I fly gliders and motorgliders but some things apply to all aircraft. I learned about stalls and spins the same way most people do - training up high and straight and level. An accident in my flying club where a member most likely tried to turn back to a field for an outlanding while low and slow ended in an inadvertent stall/spin too low to recover. After the accident we started to train differently, stalling and spinning gliders from 30, 45 and sometimes 60 degrees angle of bank and many of us were absolutely shocked at how especially high performance gliders handled under these conditions. I had one experience were a glider rolled to inverted and started spinning. I lost almost 1000 feet before I recovered - easily twice of what you would loose entering a spin straight and level in the same glider. Other club members experienced secondary stalls as a result of applying standard recovery procedures under these conditions. Long story short: You nailed it when you said that the way stalls are teached does not reflect the situations likely to kill you. It will be misjudging your turn to final resulting in steeper angle of bank combined with pulling and flying uncoordinated, the "impossible turn" or your unexpected engine failure on climb out (e.g. winch launch or tug failure for gliders...). So thank you for explaining this in your video and it would be really great if you kept exploring this in some way or another!
@wild_lee_coyote
@wild_lee_coyote Год назад
Trent, the best salesman Kitfox has ever had. Especially for those who have never heard about bush planes, experimental aircraft, or STOL planes. I just wish that they would open up a second factory so that production can double and and there wouldn’t be such a long wait list and high prices.
@macwizmiami
@macwizmiami Год назад
Love your videos, Trent! Super-inspirational stuff.
@timhaynie4768
@timhaynie4768 Год назад
As a newly minted private pilot with my eyes on the STOL world, I really like and appreciate this conversational tutorial. Nice work.
@garyburns9628
@garyburns9628 Год назад
Great job Trent on describing how the wing works alone with the Flaperons. I really like your videos I have probably watcher all of them at least twice.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite Год назад
That's one NICE aircraft in so many ways, Trent! Perfect for the type of flying you do. Very impressive slow flight / high AOA characteristics!
@danielmoss2394
@danielmoss2394 Год назад
Another great video. Thanks Trent.
@williamearle3893
@williamearle3893 Год назад
Thank you Trent, your explanation was well delivered.
@n539rv
@n539rv Год назад
Best explanation of why countering wing drop in a spin with aileron will make the wing drop even worse. Well done!
@amytaylor2673
@amytaylor2673 Год назад
Hello there 👋👋, how are you doing today?hope you’re having a good day?God bless you!!!❤️
@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145
Just one amazing aviation video. Thamks Trent.
@m118lr
@m118lr Год назад
A Phenomenally well-produced and thought-out video, although heavy on your Kit Fox..great info getting back to the basics of stalls/stall-spins Trent. Even for those who might not be current or active pilots for whatever reason, you’ve gone a long way in detailing the ‘what & whys’ of the GA-leading accident cause. Great work!
@ferebeefamily
@ferebeefamily Год назад
Thank you Trent for the information.
@theclephane2914
@theclephane2914 Год назад
Excellent video Trent! Thank you!
@vargapa101
@vargapa101 Год назад
Thanks for this insightful video. Makes me want to get a Kitfox even more. As a suggestion for the next video: your take on pros and cons of tail dragger vs tricycle
@patrickheavirland3599
@patrickheavirland3599 Год назад
Hello from Minnesota! Great episode!!
@gregpopp4847
@gregpopp4847 Год назад
You're a very effective teacher Trent - very enlightening tutorial on aerodynamics.
@_skyyskater
@_skyyskater Год назад
I love this video sooo hard! It's so heartwarming to see a guy who really loves his aircraft
@coryanderson2371
@coryanderson2371 Год назад
Hey glad to see you out there again sorry I've been busy working a lot I'll get to see you again and watch you hope you're doing good glad you still got your license yet take care I'll keep washing for you
@robstanton9215
@robstanton9215 Год назад
Terrific job describing the workings of a flaperon wing vs a conventional wing. I liked your “Kitfox has your back” too!! I also greatly appreciate you humbly admitting you aren’t trained in spins therefore it wouldn’t be wise to engage in that maneuver for the purpose of content. You’re a great example for all up and coming pilots as well as those who’ve been around a while. Keep up the good work Trent!!! I look forward to the next adventure!! 🤠👍
@TrentonPalmer
@TrentonPalmer Год назад
Thanks Rob!
@pi.actual
@pi.actual Год назад
"Region of reverse command" has to do with speed and power, there is a speed at which, if you want to go slower, you need to ADD power rather than reduce it. I've never heard it used in the context of stall/spin situations. In regards to stall/spin the emphasis needs to be on ground proximity, when your attention is diverted to objects on the ground and your track across the ground in relation to them. At those times it is very easy to get uncoordinated without realizing it. In addition to the base to final scenario there is also the infamous "moose stall" that has been happening to even seasoned pilots for over 100 years.
@Zalaniar
@Zalaniar Год назад
Came here to say this. Region of reverse command really has nothing to do with ailerons at all.
@alk672
@alk672 Год назад
@@Zalaniar at a deeper level, the region of reverse command exists due to the fact that beyond the critical angle of attack the relationship between AOA and lift becomes inverted. That phenomenon causes both the inverted speed/power relationship (which "region of reverse command" usually refers to) as well as the reverse aileron effect the author is talking about in this video.
@ronniemackinnon3237
@ronniemackinnon3237 Год назад
I too believe this to be a better explanation of reverse command. Not that Trent hasn't done a fine job for us with this production He has and thanks for that. Perhaps u can explain a moose stall? New term to me.
@srviejo2298
@srviejo2298 Год назад
Use rudder to pick up a dropping wing rather than aileron (which increases angle of attack and exacerbates the stall). Using rudder increases the lift by accelerating the wing tip and decreasing the angle of attack by increasing the relative wind.
@FinbarSheehy
@FinbarSheehy Год назад
@@srviejo2298 Use elevator, not rudder, when a wing drops in slow flight. Nose down, reduce the AOA, to assure normal aileron functioning - because, without intensive and recent training your reflexes will already have rolled in normal aileron to pick up the dropped wing. And, if you use rudder to pick up the wing, while still holding the stick back, you may well just spin the other way - there are lots of examples of it happening, and it can happen fast. "Use rudder" does work, but it's a maneuver that requires training and proficiency to avoid the instinctive application of aileron and to feather the elevator so it doesn't go very wrong.
@robertsprague853
@robertsprague853 Год назад
I like that pitch over, an unloaded wing cannot stall, great design 👍
@coppi60
@coppi60 Год назад
Thanks Trent!
@NovackNGoode
@NovackNGoode Год назад
It was not the “tail stalling.” It was you running out of elevator authority.
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Год назад
I downloaded the Trent Palmer Kitfox off the MSFS 2020 store and have been really enjoying it. With the failure turned on I recreated the engine out scenario over the exact range where you're really happened just to see if there were any other alternatives. I tried to copy every condition I could come up with. Wind, time, temp for the density altitude, etc. Not much else you could have done.
@jonhayes9223
@jonhayes9223 Год назад
That was one of the best explanations of stall I’ve ever heard. Great video
@davidrobins4025
@davidrobins4025 Год назад
Great explanation, Trent. Thank you.
@strepsal6957
@strepsal6957 Год назад
Amazing Trent. Keep it up!
@barrysimmons5489
@barrysimmons5489 Год назад
Trent, Thanks for sharing...
@nworbydnar
@nworbydnar Год назад
What an amazing design on your plane. Excellent flying and video.
@bradarmstrong1656
@bradarmstrong1656 Год назад
This is extremely valuable information! Thank You!
@ravichandrareddyare8118
@ravichandrareddyare8118 Год назад
Hi Trent, Love your video's, you are one of the persons who inspired me in gettig into aviation and got my PPL recently. This is very educational. Building a kitfox is one of my dreams and this video even gave me more confidence in getting one. Hope one day I will be able to fulfill my dream. You have such an insight and knowledge on kitfox and you will be my first go to person to get more insights and advice for my build. Thanks for the video.
@sevenravens
@sevenravens Год назад
Very good topic to cover. Thanks.
@alexchasewilliams
@alexchasewilliams Год назад
Hey Trent, excellent observations. On the downside of the thrust line/tail plane inclination, going full power during a go-around can cause a significant pitch up, and stall if not caught fast enough. Although I never spun the kitfox, I had one instance where the wing dropped when I tried to pick it up. Could be even more dangerous if your not expecting it, and may only happen at aft cgs (or with the stock wing that stalls before the tail). At the end of the day I think “just fast enough to kill you” is a plea to not become complacent when aircraft are “safe”.
@redblack8414
@redblack8414 7 месяцев назад
Excellent explanation. Couldn't be better.
@sniping12
@sniping12 Год назад
Trent : “the kitfox can barely kill you” Nick : “am I a joke to you?” 😂
@Farmnflyin
@Farmnflyin Год назад
That was my thought...
@HeeHawHighlander
@HeeHawHighlander Год назад
I was thinking of Nick during this entire video! Don’t get to confident in your KF bailing you out.
@pontier09
@pontier09 Год назад
I was wondering if Trent would address Nick's crash as for such a safe airplane that he has made it out to be his friend got himself into a situation with one that almost killed him!
@johnreed5253
@johnreed5253 Год назад
That's exactly what I thought! ' ol Nick just barely got killed ' !
@malcolmellis9654
@malcolmellis9654 Год назад
my thoughts exactly..😏 what did cause Nick's unfortunate accident bearing all this in mind..his was an earlier type wing without the flaperons ? hope to see more of Nick's posts soon ..🙂
@susannewilliams
@susannewilliams Год назад
I love this thinking and explanation. Thank you!
@kevinphillips9408
@kevinphillips9408 Год назад
Great educational video. Thanks Trent.
@alexthai4957
@alexthai4957 Год назад
Excellent video as always. I've been fling over 40 years, military, ultralights, gliders, etc. In my opinion, keeping surprises and unknowns to a minimum is key to safe and confident flying. Don't let the spin in your aircraft remain an unknown. Get an "unusual attitude" instructor to go up with you to experience and recover from all types of spins, normal, accelerated, and flat, including their inverted counterparts.
@tompinnef6331
@tompinnef6331 Год назад
Thank you for the video - hope everyone is doing well. Take care - Be safe.
@kenmier9789
@kenmier9789 Год назад
Great explanation of the Kitfox flaperons! Not a pilot, yet. Awesome video….thank you!
@Raypatrick66
@Raypatrick66 Год назад
As always great information in a great way of showing it!!! Amazing again Trent!!
@Raypatrick66
@Raypatrick66 Год назад
You just have this amazing ability, to explain the Dynamics of your flying and make clear YOUR plane!!! Love your videos! And so can a car Motocycle kill you etc… respect everything you drive or fly!!! Still think you should have been at that meeting with all the great flyers!!( my opinion)!👍👍👍👍 cover your six as always……RS.
@TrentonPalmer
@TrentonPalmer Год назад
Thanks Ray!
@danielruff4632
@danielruff4632 Год назад
Great video, Trent! If I get low and slow in the future, you’ve convinced me in looking at a Kit Fox! The inherent stability is also built into my Mooney. Very interesting discussion about the flaperons too!!
@salut438
@salut438 Год назад
Trent, i wasnt sure about you content, i first watched Jonas Marcinko and fell on your channel, im happy to say you and him are the ones that got me into aviation !!
@TrentonPalmer
@TrentonPalmer Год назад
Wow, thank you 🙏🏻
@sebastienmichel3561
@sebastienmichel3561 Год назад
The ICP Savannah has the same flaperon feature and design, and it behaves exactly like you say about the Kitfox (no spin, no big drop when you stall, and nose down "automatically" after engine loss)... It's such a blast to fly!!!
@lorendjones
@lorendjones Год назад
Great video, with the exception of the “region of reverse command” discussion which others have pointed out. Kit fox is on my short list for my next fun plane.
@timhowell6929
@timhowell6929 Год назад
Hi Trent, love the kit Fox info thanks. When I was training for my private license years ago, a pilot friend told me I should get my instructor to teach me how to get my into and out of spins. We practiced them a lot even tho the curriculum didn’t require it at that time. They are actually pretty fun. If you haven’t done them, I recommend getting an instructor pilot to show you in a plane that will spin. Flat spins are incredibly rare in small private aircraft because the engines are far forward. I don’t think that’s much of a risk. Anyway, thanks again.
@throughmylens5127
@throughmylens5127 Год назад
Almost put a Cessna 152 into a spin but plane straightened out by itself
@copcuffs9973
@copcuffs9973 Год назад
@@throughmylens5127 👍 lesson number two via flight club was spin recovery in a C-152. I annoyed the club trainer with the unending stall horn until he put us into the first spin, and demonstrated the recovery. He then said "I bet you can't do that again" he lost, he said I'm going to put us into our second spin, and you recover. more fun (and💸🛩️ expensive) than a roller coaster.✌️
@dmc8078
@dmc8078 Год назад
Great job resisting showing us spins. Very informative video, fly safe Trent.
@alanbranch851
@alanbranch851 Год назад
Trent definitely one of the best at articulating things and is oh so entertaining
@route66radioW1WMT
@route66radioW1WMT Год назад
Very informative video for a guy like myself, very new. Thank you and keep up the amazing "work!"
@bmuns6445
@bmuns6445 Год назад
Great video and nice plane. My dad is retired Navy flying C-130s with jato jets in Antarctica , P-3 sub hunters and retired 37 yr B-777 United pilot and line check airman. My younger brother was F-15E WISO and had a beer with a 3 star general about that. I took flight lessons and pussed out. I was confident and comfortable in my take offs and landings, but totally freaked out in my C152 stall - never even been on a roller coaster. I know better now. Maybe try again in the future. Your video is inspiring. I really like the Cub inspired plane is so SLOW but also so SAFE.
@jmkulikowski
@jmkulikowski Год назад
@trentpalmer the phenomena you describe of the nose dropping when you pull the power has to do with the way trim works. Trim establishes a "balancing point" for a given AOA. In small, low powered airplanes like most in GA, this coordinates very closely to an airspeed. That's why we learn "stall airspeed" in primary training, and not "stall AOA" (and why most GA airplanes aren't equipped with an AOA indicator. This means that when power is lost, the airplane will naturally seek the AOA for which it is trimmed. In most GA airplanes Vx is very close to Best Glide, so a pilot's best option, in this case, is generally to relax.
@frankb518
@frankb518 Год назад
Great Video! Thanks for the info! Have never flown myself but have always had an interest in flying!
@schnellguitars6128
@schnellguitars6128 Год назад
Great video, Trent.
@bbt95762
@bbt95762 Год назад
Love the thoughtful approach
@matthewmc4363
@matthewmc4363 Год назад
Nice to see you again.
@andrewsmall6568
@andrewsmall6568 Год назад
That's the best explanation of reverse control i've heard, especially against the Junkers style alternative config.
@read_old_books4351
@read_old_books4351 Год назад
Welcome back to the skies, Trent!
@Jagrrr
@Jagrrr Год назад
Well done. Very clear explanations.
@SkyGizmmo
@SkyGizmmo Год назад
Best Kit Fox advertisement Intentional or Unintentional LOVE your content. Glad FAA fiasco is behind ya.
@navion1946
@navion1946 Год назад
An upset recovery school hears that Trent hasn’t had spin/upset recovery training. They offer a free course and in the process Trent gets into aerobatics and takes us along. Aerobatic training and aircraft shoot up in demand like kit foxes. Aviation lives happily ever after.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz Год назад
My plane doesn't want to spin and its not cleared for spinning because it wont recover. Its very benign but if you do have engine failure on take off I don't think most people realise how quick and how far down the nose needs to go. When you demonstrated the forward push that's good because if you feel weightless then you're not asking anything of the wing so it will not stall. You can do that manoeuvre below the stall "speed" and it will work. However, its always best to assume the plane will bit you; and you're right it'll never be straight and level. Power on stalls are really dramatic. Love these videos keep up the good work!
@stevemyers2092
@stevemyers2092 Год назад
one of your best "information" videos - you did a very good job on this Trent. Kudos man. SteveInSuperNaturalBC
@karsonbranham3900
@karsonbranham3900 Год назад
Very well stated Instructional video. Interesting factoids I did not know about the kitfox design. Very interesting indeed !
@mobtek
@mobtek Год назад
Stall practice is always good fun, the lessons I had in the Piper Warrior the stall always dipped the left wing down and to the left but as soon as you nosed over it was fine. I could imagine that happening on turning left to final would be a joy ;)
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