Knife Testing Results Batch 9 Bestech,CIVIVI,Ganzo,NOC,Real Steel,BucknBear,Spyderco

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Knife Steel Testing Batch 9
Steel Testing Batch 9
BuckNBear Crocodile flipper D2
BucknBear Tracker Damascus
Bestech Ornetta M390
Bestech Paladin D2
Bestech Hornet D2
Bestech Shinkansen S35VN
CIVIVI Shard Chinese D2
Ganzo FH21 D2
Ganzo FH31 D2
NOC MT03 M390
Real Steel 3605 Control D2
Spyderco Military Rex 45
Spyderco Amalgam S30V
Spyderco Para 2 S110V
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@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Spreadsheet of knife testing results to date: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OepNr_D4lqbdTFqdqWl1rmAd4bOzPzJe6J0iEWrdJGU/edit?usp=drivesdk

@devonmacdonald7807 4 года назад

the tracker is a clone of the knife from call of duty ghost

@ruifans9954 3 года назад

Try JUFULE Design BearFly Real D2 Knife Dare to test hardness，Other sellers (ganzo, sanrenmu) dare not! www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021841470.html

@jeo1349 5 лет назад

GANZO GANZO GANZO..... That's a trip- 61-62 HRC. Doin right.....

@GutiTheJ 5 лет назад

I love the direction ganzo is taking now. Original designs, best bang for your buck"as always", and great steel treatment. Can't wait for more

@orangealien4014 5 лет назад

I have a FB7603-GR I carry at work, love that knife. I ordered the FH31 today can't wait to try it out

@ArenaAccessories 5 лет назад

Amen to that

@px7355 5 лет назад

original design???

@M240Bravo 5 лет назад

Pakistan made damascus sucks. What a surprise 🤣

@Outpost_76 5 лет назад

I already started a series of tests on an FH 31. I'm doing quite a few D2 blades and other steels will follow to show that burnt edges need multiple sharpenings to shine. I'll be sending what I've tested to Kurt to find out how the results compare to what you and others have tested.

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Thanks !

@Outpost_76 5 лет назад

@@LuvThemKnives I'm 2 tests in and the first one is posted on my channel already. With the higher hrc these are coming out at I'm curious what they will do. My FH21 will also be done after this FH31.

@wojtekimbier 5 лет назад

You mean that a machine-ground edge was overheated and needs to be resharpened a few times before it performs well?

@lucifermorningstar5401 5 лет назад

this is funny all the real so called big bucks knives 23 +31 bucks knives knocked them out of the park.

@donwilson1296 5 лет назад

Great video LTK. Hold em to the truth brother!! 🐴👍

@brianf9619 5 лет назад

LTK , Great Work . I'm So Happy we finally have way to pull the covers off these pretenders who have been screwing us for years. That Bestech Ornetta goes for $254 , and to find out the M390 HRC is only 57 is a big kick in the balls , that low hrc brings the edge retention wayyy down , to probably VG10 levels or something , and that sucks. And then the $199 Shinkansen's S35VN was 56 hrc , thats horrible . Thats 2 different model knives with LOW hrc , they can't say that was an accident. Everyone needs to send those knives back for a Full Refund , asap . And then they wonder why Chinese knives get a bad rap . Those D2 Ganzo's are the BOMB , definetly the best bang for buck knives on the market right now , the 61 hrc is unheard of for the $26 price tag .

@nitrorc4life1 5 лет назад

It will be very rare to to get near perfect hardness of steels in a "mass production" fashion, let alone slight variables in the steel itself having slight variations from batch to batch. 1-3 point variation has been and will continue to be normal for mass production. Some companies do a better job then others, yes. Exact hardness from batch to batch is just not going go happen from even the best. I also think it is funny about the stress put in hardness, especially with D2. Many say, I want 61-62, then thin the edge and complain on chipping....its NOT all about the hardness as the geometry plays as much of an important role as HT process, there is a compromise always and the no perfect magic number.

@nitrorc4life1 5 лет назад

@jcoolG19 I feel ya, but the steels you mentioned will still outperform lesser steels at same hardness. But yes, I do understand. I myself stopped caring about that years ago and just enjoy the hobby of collecting, and through use pick my favorite ones by using them. Like 1095, take esee, is it softer then others, yep, does it have its strong points because of it? Absolutely and I use it accordingly, especially on the property. One of my favorite is Kabar/Becker 1095 for mass production. I have some Shadow tech's that do a good job of HT their stuff as well (a bit harder then most by use). If is what it is, just enjoy and throw the duds in drawer or give away and lesson learned.

@49giants3 5 лет назад

Bestech doesn’t have the best heat treat looking at the read outs lol. Thanks LTK

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

I guarantee you that they’re getting these numbers up in future batches !

@Smokeone44 5 лет назад

How does artisan cutlery s35 vn checkout?

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Mark Reyes Just click on the link to the spreadsheet. The Artisan Immortal was real S35VN and tested 60.3 HRC.

@ramonversteeg9647 5 лет назад

Yup.. checked my boxes. Thanks ltk

@darshankumardave7485 5 лет назад

Chinese D2 is IMHO We's poke back to all the sarcasm surrounding Chinese D2. Especially in light of a knifenuts dedicated podcast on "China D2". Just my hunch.

@nottoosuckyreviews5211 5 лет назад

I was definitely one of the ones scoffing at these cheap knives having real D2, just 6 months ago. Color me informed (and pleased)!

@darshankumardave7485 5 лет назад

@@nottoosuckyreviews5211 IMHO the Chinese have only themselves to blame. Just see the number of Eafengrow and Fura knives labelled D2 and tested otherwise. Although properly labelled. They would have sold just as much I think.

@stevecoleman8737 3 года назад

Its like listening to Gilbert Gottfried read a phone book backward...ramble ramble. Ramble. Obviously a really bright guy but an advanced form of torture.

@rodneypearson6986 5 лет назад

Love this testing keep the knife company's squirmin on there QC your the man !!!

@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 3 года назад

You got a new sub I'd like to see tactical gearz knives tested

@LuvThemKnives 3 года назад

I’ll look into them.

@Chineseknives 5 лет назад

They are very interesting theese tests!.

@jtucci5711 5 лет назад

Shake your head brother, shake your head. Some of these knives you are featuring are knives I have recently purchased so make it real as I am already very fond of some of them ie. Bestech Paladin, but in black Bro,, Paladin was the man in black, ah shit buy all three I probably will eventually.Oh, Oh! and a day without LTK is a day without sunshine, Carry on friend and THANK YOU!

@southernshop8424 5 лет назад

quit smoking cigarettes 7/22/18 almost a year ago, been buying knives with the money ive saved, and your channel is really helping me know where my money gets the most value. thank you so much

@BraggFamily13 4 года назад

@southern shop, You quit smoking back in 2018? Dang that’s 👏 I’m retiring in the next few months from the Army and I can tell you; All the smokers, dippers, chewers, energy drinkers, supplementers and anyone relying on a what I call, crutches to get through have NEVER been able to understand where I as a leader and soldier derive my unending energy from. 1 word: SELF. Well done on quiting a “crutch” that saps from all of our natural inhibition, mental discipline and growth. My dad told me 1 thing and sticks true still to this day: I AM MY OWN WORST ENEMY. I MASTER MYSELF, THE WORLD BECOMES MY OYSTER. 🦪 That’s awesome on quiting! I love knives too but of course... I’m a BIG ADVOCATE of evolution of self and the proponent of adaptation and evolution. Anyways I’ll kill this message til the end, and people will hate transparency and the truth.

@southernshop8424 4 года назад

@@BraggFamily13 thank you for your encouragement

@SteveKluver 5 лет назад

Thank you LTK, and thank you Kurt! Another batch in the record books. That FH21, was a real nice surprise! I tested my REX 45 PM2, and it came out to 66.5. So Spyderco looks to be real consistent, when running that steel type through the oven too. I pray for a Manix 2 version of REX 45 also. Eric is well aware. of how much I want that to happen. : - ) I am really disappointed in that Bestech Shinkansen, as I own one. Make sure to give them a poke for me too, LTK. And to make matters worse. CPM-S35VN, is one of the easiest steel formulas to heat treat, unless complete carelessness is at hand. It's air hardened, and the tempering temperature would have to get all of the way up to 1,000°F, to achieve such a low hardness number. Which is a long ways off, from the target of 400-450°F. Failure, in a competent process, starts just after 600°F. Grrr . . .

@symonsaz 2 года назад

Wow, now that's what I call a knife review !!! Awesome, man!

@fujio001 5 лет назад

Thanks for what you are doing for the knife community

@blueman796 5 лет назад

It would be interesting to see the D2 blades used by ravencrest, cobratec and some of the other otf knife companies tested.

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Blueman 79 Great idea. I’ll add it to the list. Thanks

@ArenaAccessories 5 лет назад

Kev - you and Kurt are doing awesome things with these tests - thank you so much for this insight! Keep up the great work, fellas👍🗡

@bobhere5825 5 лет назад

Looks like I'm giving Gano a try

@eddiespectral 5 лет назад

Please test the CH 3504 D2

@tukiyemmma7261 4 года назад

Like watching testing result

@Zelrick42 5 лет назад

Hey guys, I had a long discussion, several months ago, with the owner of WE on steel and what to call it. In the end he went with full transparency. The WE knives that are labeled D2 have steel that comes from the US or Europe. The Civivi knives D2 is sourced from China. He wanted everyone to know and not hide anything. The reality is that both sources have D2 that meets the standards for the steel, the country of origin is just different.

@eh7378 2 года назад

"Lay down the chutzpah"

@petemidwest1071 5 лет назад

So. I bought a a Ganzo Fh11 bout two months ago on the heels of it being tested by you I got the carbon fiber model. It never saw hard use. I like the blade shape but the handle was a little thick for my liking. Then they came out with the FH 12 ... I had to have it. It’s much thinner with the steel handles and pretty much unbreakable... I put a 20 degree bevel on it and used it for a whole day today! What a dream... I cut about 60 boxes in to tiny pieces.... cut awesome with not 1 hot spot. I found the perfect EDC!

@DrummingTmate 5 лет назад

HRC 57.3 M390. There must be Chinese AUS8 hardened higher than that. It's like paying for a porcelain vase and then spray painting it black.

@majergens 5 лет назад

Impressive performance on the Spydie Military! Ganzo once again showing what a great value they are. I looked on the spreadsheet and saw that an LAPG knife did test as S35VN, but had a dismal HRC. Seems Bestech is having similar problems. Why opt to use a decent steel but do a poor heat treat? That is baffling!

@TheLostKoz 5 лет назад

Please test a Quartermaster knife!

@TheScottyp1 5 лет назад

i wont buy any high end bếtchs untill they pull old stock amd fix the issue. sũ cuz they are awsome

@MrWoodyBalto 5 лет назад

2 points to make... About that BucknBear fixed blade, I really doubt that anyone would buy that as a user knife. It's more like a fantasy knife. So (while interesting) it's not a factor. The other point is... Doesn't harder mean more brittle if stressed? I don't think it's smart to look for the highest HRC. There is a sweet spot and it's not at the top.

@jerrycrowe8448 5 лет назад

I have a fh11cf and it's not holding a edge as well as my bestech knives in d2 but it's still rather new and didn't have the best edge out the box I will keep you updated as my fh21 has a better edge and seems to be holding it. I just haven't the time with it.Love everything you do for our knife COMMUNITY and us looking for a decent deal knowing what and where to get

@bele28 5 лет назад

Great job, but please don't explain every video why it doesn't read as m390 and how it don't have it in software etc.. we got it by now!! :D

@larryrosen2984 5 лет назад

Thank you.. there’s some wonderful values.. for D2. The Ganzo, for value and Civivi , for design and value . We must do better I The USA , if we want to complete, with these Knives from China. Yes We Can.

@jjrossitee 4 года назад

Thank you very much for the work you do testing knives for everyone to know the HRC, that's really cool man.

@gnomersy1087 5 лет назад

Love the hornet but I'm still mad they don't have black and yellow scales.

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

That’s actually a great idea !!

@ocomegashadowstacking5886 5 лет назад

Really awesome video reviews.

@Алексей-д9и6т 5 лет назад

Thank you Luv, you are doing an excellent job of testing steel, with respect from Russia.

@karlizen4990 5 лет назад

also that Rex45 heat treat.. jesus christ that's up there w/ maxamet, k390 and russian carbide steels

@southerndiscomfort2412 5 лет назад

The difference in prices of knives is not only due to the cost price of the blade steel used ie S30V /M390 being premium 'super' steels will be more expensive than 8cr13MoV/440C for example..... but what really adds to the difference in knife prices is due to the blade steel processing costs. Forming & sharpening modern hard steel types like S30V /M390 are much more time consuming and more demanding on the production machinery than the forming & sharpening of 8cr13MoV/440C. So how are knife companies reducing costs and therefore making more profit? Easy...by reducing the heat treatment to produce hardness between HRC52.3 (LAPG TBFK S30V) and HRC57.3 (Bestech M390). Lower HRC results in lower steel processing costs as the softer blade steel is easier to form and sharpen BUT STILL the company can sell the knife at a premium price as it is still a premium 'super' steel.

@D00MTR33 5 лет назад

The thing is m390 at 57hrc isn't that much easier on belts and machining than m390 at 61-62hrc. It's still a high carbide stainless steel that's very wear resistant. It might perform worse in a cutting test than say a D2 at 60-62hrc but it'll still be harder to grind. M390 NEEDS cryo for a proper heat treat, if you don't use it then you get results like 57hrc. But since it's pricey and to be consuming, lesser brands tend to skip that step and you end up with a sub par heat treat. But to them it still says m390 on the blade which is a buzz steel so if it's priced right people who don't know any better will buy it. They should be using cts xhp instead, that steel is much easier to heat treat, it can be oil, plate or even air quenched and doesn't need cryo to be decent(thought it will benefit from a cryo cycle).

@matthirn7858 5 лет назад

When it comes to utility it is hard to beat the value of the latest Ganzo knives. Quite impressive.

@wojtekimbier 5 лет назад

You just cannot say Ganzo isn't worth twice the price

@Foxrock321 5 лет назад

Man I love this video...you are rockin it LTK

@bobb.9917 5 лет назад

Question: I have an Artisan Cutlery Small Orthodox with "Damascus" steel? Is it possible to test that? Is the Damascus just a coating over mystery steel? LOL! So if the steel is coated, you could not test it...right?

@bobb.9917 5 лет назад

jcoolG19 oI guess that I have some serious confusion about Damascus and Damasteel....

@mickkeim4142 5 лет назад

I might have to sell a couple knives if I’m going to buy a few of these...lol. I’m a bit new to this EDC, folding carry knives...where is a good place to pass on used knives, or like new, knives?

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Put your knives on my Traders Corner Video. It’s published on the 10th of every month. Just send me a list with pricing.

@rilukebo 5 лет назад

Love these tests!

@Lukasrb76 5 лет назад

Hi. Can you test knife Free wolf asymmetric, you did review on that knife and i got one. Great folder. Thanks for hard work. I love your chanell

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

You could send it to me to test. Email me. Thanks

@Lukasrb76 5 лет назад

@@LuvThemKnives Sorry i cant send it, i am from Europe. You had a knife, here is ur review on it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvGW83b3w54.html If you could check chemical composition and hardness if u still have it. Because of u i got mine

@hootenknives153 5 лет назад

that rex is insane 67 almost 1095 before tempering.

@D00MTR33 5 лет назад

I have a 1095 paring knife from Alvin Johnson and it's at 66hrc. Not a looker but man does it perform.

@hootenknives153 5 лет назад

@@D00MTR33 dont tap that edge on anything lol 1095 is usally around 68hrc after quenching and if dropped it has the tendency to shatter

@D00MTR33 5 лет назад

@@hootenknives153 It's a steel not ceramic. Sure I would not pry with it or cut through bones but that's mainly due to geometry. It's a thin stock at about 0.090 ground to 0.008 behind the edge. But I cut a bunch of cardboard and rope with it and widdled wood and it held up fine. It's not as tough as 1095 at 58-60hrc but for it's intended purpose it's plenty tough.

@karlizen4990 5 лет назад

Knew bestech's heattreat's not up to par.

@pldavis53 5 лет назад

Are you going to review the tuya hive?

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Absolutely going to review the Tuyaknife Hive !!

@bp-hx9ts 5 лет назад

Bestech is really unimpressive

@bp-hx9ts 5 лет назад

jcoolG19 yeah that sucks at least the spydercos were at a decent hrc and the ganzos surprised me damm wish the s110v was more around 62 it can go to 65 but 60.9 or 61 is pretty nice

@bp-hx9ts 5 лет назад

jcoolG19 with some steels yeah and with others no I wonder what the difference would be from factory to factory ie Taichung vs golden Colorado vs seki city I would say on most steels seki city is the worst but they do good with some things

@bp-hx9ts 5 лет назад

jcoolG19 definitely would be

@jace1873 5 лет назад

What asking for the shankensen

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

j ace187 Already traded it off.

@slkknifelover 5 лет назад

Love this!! Thanks

@BMfins 5 лет назад

Spyderco has great heat treating.

@LuvThemKnives 5 лет назад

Check out the spreadsheet. A few have been a bit soft.

@D00MTR33 5 лет назад

Their m390/20cv needs work. Benchmade does that class of steel better as well as cpm m4. This is coming from a spydie fan, I love that they use different steels and on most their heat treat is good for a production knife. But a few steels could be a lil harder.