Know the Rules 4 - t.23, t.33, and t.35

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This is the fourth in a series of videos I made to discuss the growing divide between the rules and conventions in sabre fencing. These rules discuss when a riposte is and isn't allowed as well as how that relates to stepping off the strip.
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@chizzmaster Месяц назад

Alshamlan making burner accounts to dislike this video as we speak

@Dd-ue4ct Месяц назад

The thing I love about your suggestion is it would massively reduce the problem of certain people trying to force a halt by "accidentally" stepping off the side. Off and on just let it go. Anything longer and without a clear reason like losing balance it's a lot easier to call it deliberate and punish them. Right now I feel like certain fencers are definitely doing it deliberately but good luck proving it when every step off the side is meant to be a halt

@archardor3392 Месяц назад

Just do yellow card by subsequent red cards for going off the piste regardless if intentional or not. The piste is there for a reason. You either stay on it or get carded. If you lose your balance and go out, well tough luck.

@bigbearfencing Месяц назад

For the t.33 interpretation, the rules refers to the crossing of the lateral boundaries. From what I understand, as written it means you are “off” as soon as your foot crosses the line (even if its still in the air), not when it touches the ground. If your foot is still floating and you score, points are given but as soon as your foot lands no point. I have never seen refs give a point after a foot lands off strip, only disallow them. The problem is refs cannot easily or consistently judge when someone crosses the lines vertical airspace, so they just do a hard no point on anything after the foot touching off strip. Its not even reliant on them calling halt, the better ones will let it play out, then call the off strip no point call. My experience is in epee, so it may be different, but this is how I’ve seen it called.

@valentinmacht3836 Месяц назад

isnt going off the strip (sideways) in middle of the bout a card of category 1 (yellow, red, red...) though?

@valentinmacht3836 Месяц назад

intentionally

@CyrusofChaos Месяц назад

... to avoid a touch is illegal. You can fill in the ... with a lot of things: leaving the strip, falling, dropping your weapon, etc

@learningtofightfruit9515 Месяц назад

While moving forward as an attacker what advantage would you gain by stepping one foot off the pieste?

@CyrusofChaos Месяц назад

You don't gain any advantage. And I strongly believe you should lose your right of way for that mistake

@learningtofightfruit9515 Месяц назад

@CyrusofChaos I absolutely agree that there is no advantage, so it's just a matter of principal from your side?

@CyrusofChaos Месяц назад

@@learningtofightfruit9515 the rules say that stepping off the side of the strip should be a halt. I think it should only be a halt when it doesn't gain you an advantage. In sabre, someone going off the side is an advantage for the defender because the attacker loses their right of way. So if the defender does this they should either get back on strip immediately or they should be penalized. If the attacker does this then of course they should lose their right of way

@learningtofightfruit9515 Месяц назад

@CyrusofChaos ah yes. I see what you mean, great point ! Thank you for letting me think in a different direction. I got the defender part but not the former.✌️

@christianbaptiste243 Месяц назад

🤺🤺🤺🙏🙏🙏🙏🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺

@oldschooljeremy8124 Месяц назад

However, in the first example, when you turn to follow the opponent and hit him you appear to cross your front foot past your back foot, isn't this an illegal paste avant? ; )

@CyrusofChaos Месяц назад

That's a really good question! Turning to track the other fencer doesn't count as crossing the feet because the rules explicitly say "any FORWARD movement in which the rear foot completely passes the front foot is forbidden". But this isn't a forward motion, it's more of a sideways one and without it, tracking him would be impossible