I currently have 190 banked hours here in Australia. Trying to get more than 2 weeks off in a row is damn near impossible and they still try to get me to come in when I'm away on holidays or outside my contract hours. Wish we had your worker laws
I work in an large industrial company in Germany and I have a 35 hours contract . I must work fixed 8,5 hours a day so I collect every month 3 days of. Plus 30 days holiday and 8 days t-Zug . Never worked less as in this big company. We’re only allowed to take 35 hours overtime to the next month… Pay 40 hours a week is not allowed to all employees …
My company used to get angry for unapproved overtime. They were writing people up for being 7 mins over or even clocking in early but still wright you up because you made a mispunch 1 sec to lo late
@@user-ju2bk9ut8bthey once thought, they could handle unions that way in Europe, but the unions won and several rights were given by law after unions fought for them.
@@franhunne8929unions are the reason Germany has no major economic growth. Also they’re better at focusing than we are. Americans work 10 hours to get 6 hours of work done. If germans can do 6 hours of work in 7-8 hours that’s more efficient
It's...complicated. the labour laws are moving towards the right direction, so companies can get into serious trouble if they overwork you. There are bullshit contracts out there that are like, you get paid with overtime salary included with the expectation you work overtime basically. It's really whack.
It's not like the Japanese don't have those labour laws. It's just that they don't use their vacation as "you leave the team hanging". When fitting in is the top priority you don't go against the grain and when the whole country is like that things go 10 times slower than in other countries.
working for a German company from abroad, same thing, they keep telling me I have PTO that needs to be used, is already July and I haven't taken any free days, they were really concerned about this!! hahahahah
What is not mentioned - Germans work very concentrated and hard, even if not to long. It's called efficiency. Sometimes I look at my American colleges and wonder how many hours per day they REALLY actually work
Here in India we have labor laws and labor union. I work as a software engineer in an IT company but here we work 12 hours a day even though 8hours is prescribed working hour . Taking more than 1 leave in a month is considered as too much 🤣.
@@marcjoelkoenigslavery doesn't involve shopping different professions, deciding who to apply to, and discussing your contract with them. 10 hours is also at most 9hrs as after 8hrs you must receive 2 15min breaks and a half hour of lunch legally. However all this is up to each company, and state, and federal laws. Americas first coin said "mind your business". We should get back to that.
I’ve never been expected to work more than 10 hour a day in a job. Maybe pick a different job. I’ve not even been expected to work more than 8 hours a day unless I work 4 days. Most jobs are max 40 hours a week unless there is specific voluntary overtime.
@@sugoiharris1348 Happy to hear that! Still, your personal experience cannot be generalized. If you are underpaid and live paycheck-to-paycheck you will struggle to find a better job, because it takes time, energies, money and luck. The US is merciless towards it citizens (you're sick? Pay. You want to educate yourself and aim for a better job? Pay. You want to just move from A to B? Not without a car ;)) Not by chance, it has the greatest share of homelessness across all 1st world countries, and is behind all of Europe. This despite being by a long margin the richest country on Earth. It is nice to see people finally pushing back a little bit. I don't see why anyone in good faith would be against that.
Dutch system is similar, but if you don't take a leave, you can lose some amount of hours at the end of the year without compensation. There is often a mentality that if you cannot do your job within the normal hours, you are not functioning properly. So having to work for 10 hours to do a job that should take 7 means you might need to be demoted.
Some Dutch people make arrangements to save up a certain amount for a few years, so they can go on paid leave a few months... And please don't tell the Americans that Dutch people don't have sickdays... you can stay home as long as you're ill and see a doc😂
@@tiamaria5862 happens often in America to go a couple weeks per year or save up to go for a couple months in some select professions. However if you think about it imagine saving 3-5 years with minimal to no off time or paid leave just to get 2 months maybe 3 at max. In America getting more than a month off with paid leave is near impossible usually. Which makes sense your paid leave isn't supposed to be for vacation. Then again many places have sick leave plus paid time off plus vacation plus emergency or whatever for different things. Paid time off is a bit weird to me still and yes i do understand the point of it however it wouldn't be needed if people were paid appropriately to survive without needing to take paid time off if they get sick for a couple of days or want a week of vacation. They should be protected without needing these stupid things. Of course economically I do not know the changes that would be needed to allow such a system it would need some pretty extreme changes.
Take monday off instead. I don't know why, but it feels better. It's like waking up early in the morning, looking at the alarm clock and realizing you can sleep for another two hours.
The funny thing is that German productivity is pretty good, which goes to show that the American ‘flog them until they work harder’ approach isn’t necessary or helpful. In the UK, many employers have found that reducing people’s hours, without reducing pay(!) actually improved productivity quite a bit. People are happier with a better work-life balance, have more time with their families etc… It also has a side benefit, in that it reduces childcare costs, which can be a huge cost for families.
It really is a point. I'm german, lived and worked also in the US, UK and other places and the way they get things done is soooo complicated. They could be home earlier if they just would be more efficient!
I think the question of productivity is debatable. The German economy sells the products of German manufacturers, which have been produced in their subsidiaries around the world, but the final value added reaches the market in Germany and counts in German productivity in monetary terms and thus in GDP. This is not a criticism of German companies successfully investing around the world and building it up. Only German firms pay for hours of cheap labour and the final product goes to the market in Germany and is therefore reflected in German productivity, which workers all over the world have participated in.
@@sandraankenbrand I agree they're hight-tech. But I used to work in just such a hightek factory. We made products that were shipped to Germany for the price of labor. Where they were sold for a fair price and the value added ended up on the German mother's income statement. I am not criticizing this in any way the German investor brought the know how and invested in production. But I am a little bit sorry when people say that we have low labour productivity, which in physical terms is perhaps comparable, but if the value added is mostly realised on the German market it counts towards German labour productivity. The work itself was done in another country.
You can always find a different profession, a different state, or a different employer. Our first minted coin said "mind your business", you can always say that when someone asserts you should be working more.
@@coltonblake13 that just seems like ignoring the problem thats at hand. why not unionize and try to fix things that are broken. Some people can not move or find different professions, so should they be "enslaved" by terrible working conditions because of that, i dont think so. Unionize and make things better for everyone.
@@kiwichem4336 Yea I'm never really big on unions. Small ones or when they start usually works out but our huge ones just become like a business to the people who only work the union instead of for the average worker they represent. In America it's illegal to stop workers from unionizing. Do big corporations especially try and stop this, yes. Can they literally stop it, not in any business. So people are certainly free to do that.
In many European countries, not only Germany, there is an obligation to have an entry and exit record available to the labor authorities, sent periodically.
@@moi-rp5wq What do you mean by tracking, didn't you sign a contract with your employer? And can I ask which country? Edit: You completely debunked yourself in another comment, what a troll.
@@AltIng9154true! I used to live and work in Sweden- I have been forced to take vacation and asked not to work more than 7 hours 😂😂😂No I live in America- I have to fight with my manager to take 2 weeks of my poor vacation.😂😂😂
@@nonas6831 In Germany you are allowed to work 10 hours a day! 😊But it is true, that our managers fear you work 11 hours or so. That can be fined with 10.000€ each violation. .... but when I was young we worked, not on regular base.... illegally, voluntary..., a day and a night to get things done. In this case we made medical equipment running in a hospital. 😊 The boss did not tell us. Well mad, Germans, right?By the way, if you want to work in Germany Google Arbeitsagentur, they even have an English site.😊
I've lived in the US my whole life and can't even imagine living in a country where my life is respected and has meaning like this, to not just exist to make money for people who already have everything. I hope most people in countries like Germany realize how good they have it.
@@wlonsdale1 LOL you want germany to arm up ? even more ? we are supplieng half the world with tanks and artillery by now :D ....also its jsut bullshit....just becasue the US counts healthcare and retirment funds for military members as "military "expenidtures doest mean the rest of the world has to to the same braindead move...we have a functioning sopcial security and heathcaresystem :D so stop repeating the same BULLSHIT over and over again...also add the civil and traning funcings we do and did in eg afhanistan to the military budget (again whcih the US does because you guys have aparently no civilinfrastructure hel besides the military) and we are WELL over the 2% gdp you all keep crieng about....
My father worked in a mine in Germany, and the regular working hours were 6 hours. It took one hour to change clothes and get to the underground workplace, and one hour for the return journey and shower. Essentially, one worked only 4 hours with a break, and during the break, there was free beer. Haha, but those good old times are definitely over.
Industrial or mining jobs in Germany are insanely good if you land one. You'll have great pay, great benefits and good working conditions while working 35 hours a week. That's what happens when you have strong Labour unions, the union of industrial workers (IG Metall) is so strong in negotiations that industry workers can still live the 50s dream-life of supporting a family and their own house and car with only one salary and still having enough for multiple vacations, dinner at restaurants and some luxuries.
This experience depends very much on which industry you're working in and whether you're working for a subsidiary or not. But yes, in general German have much greater protection from overwork than in many other countries, especially the US, which can only be described as a workers rights hellscape, if you as me.
Yes it really depends on the field! In child / medical care, it's not like depicted, because we have few people for too much work, so everybody gets overworked and sometimes you do 9 or 10 days in a row, have hundreds of hours overtime and still they ask you to come in and stay longer...
So how come I had to do 40 hours unpaid overtime per week fort 6 months until I quit? And how come at another job my colleagues ands me were forced by our superior to stamp out before continuing with unregistered overtime?
There's this saying i learned in Middle School French class "Europeans work to live and Americans live to work" it really fits in this scenario. I'm so glad I moved to France lol
Funny, today i got a letter from the company. They just want me to remember how much days off I have left and they want me to plan the next vacation. 😂
If I was employed I would appreciate the option to get overtime pay. I can easily work 12 hours per day, that's a lot extra in my pay cheque. I'm not a fan of the nanny state. I'm an adult, and very much want to be treated as one.
On of my coworkers had 100 hours+ and shit was on fire when that came out. I work at one the biggest supermarket chains in the office in austria and it was an actual meeting with the biggest chef presiding on how to never do that again and instantly eather pay the hours out or take the time off. Its no joke here, except tge important places like a hospital its absolutly a nogo to have so much overtime. Ps fun fact the bigger the company the stronger its enforced cause the fine is based on the yearly percantage of the money they make and it hurts to pay hundrets of thousands of euros for one fuck up.
Mexican here, that's a crazy concept to me. As an employee what do you do if you need more money? I would just request more hours at my work. In my country overtime is paid double until a certain amount of hours then its paid 3x per hour. Overtime is optional ( with some exceptions in dangerous fields like powerplants).
@@josechavez2521en España tenemos un límite de horas extra que podemos hacer al año. Y por ley tenemos que fichar hora de entrada y de salida del trabajo, así que está controlado. Obvio que hay empresas que son unos piratas y se saltan la ley, como en todas partes, sobretodo en sectores como hostelería. Si necesitas más dinero buscas un trabajo que pague más, pero nunca vas a encontrar una empresa que contrate por más de 40 horas semanales porque es ilegal. Y tampoco puedes tener varios trabajos que en total sobrepasen ese límite de horas en conjunto. Para eso está el salario mínimo interprofesional, que es el mínimo que deben de pagarte, sea cual sea el trabajo.
@@SweetSallyRadio ¡Interesante! Y el pueblo de España me imagino que están en acuerdo? Yo puedo trabajar entre 60 - 72 horas la semana, lo hago cuando voy a comprar un coche, comprar terreno, etc. No me puedo imaginar ser limitado en mis ingresos por el gobierno. Horas extras son opcional y un acuerdo entre la compañía y el empleado.
@@josechavez2521 no conozco a nadie que no esté de acuerdo. De hecho, se está barajando la posibilidad de hacer semanas laborales de 36 horas o trabajar solo de lunes a jueves, como se hace en algunos países nórdicos, cobrando lo mismo que con las 40. Porque la gente valora muchísimo su vida personal y su tiempo libre. Entre los ciudadanos hay todo tipo de nivel económico, aunque la gran mayoría es "mileurista", lo que quiere decir que no vas sobrado pero (a menos que vivas en una gran ciudad donde los alquileres son imposibles) tampoco haces sacrificios para comer. La parte de la población que tiene más dificultades económicas tiene ayudas del estado para comida, facturas de electricidad, etc. Y ahí sí que puede ser que haya gente que cobre "en negro" por trabajos no regulados, pero no es lo habitual. Ojo, hay muchísimas cosas que se podrían mejorar, muchísimas! Pero en general, al tener muy buena sanidad pública, educación pública, etc, los servicios básicos están cubiertos en la mayor parte de los casos.
Hah! In the US, we were forced to work a minimum of 10 hours for 8 hours pay. I lost vacation time every year. One year I lost over 2 & 1/2weeks. You weren't paid for vacation not used and there was no carry over. It was 34 years of a hell hole.
@@leahwhiteley5164In Germany the employers must point out that vacation is still to be taken. Otherwise there is an entitlement to payment of the days. There are also around 30 days of vacation per year.
What people don't understand is they expect you to do focused work for those hours and not waste time. A lof of people I know take 10 hours to complete work that can easily be completed in 6-7 hours because they are distracted, not organized etc.
Nonsense. I hardly have any time to drink and if so of course while continuing my work. I cannot even remember the last time I had a normal break. This is idiotic.
@@Celisar1 its Factual. After 6h of continued work, youre required to have your break (in a job with a 8,5h workday - the 0,5h is your break). It can happen that you didnt had a good time to have your break before that, but in a good company, your coworkers or your superior will remind you of your break. Some split their break and make 2 smaller breaks. Oh... and in jobs with 12h workday, its 1h break.
@@smaragdwolf1also people under 18. At my company half an hour will be automatically subtracted of your time, when 6 hours have passed. You are expected to take your break.
That is mandatory in the US as well. One time in LA suburbs, at a very nice restaurant the waitress would not take the order when we asked her as she was on her lunch break. She said Mark will serve you for the 30 minutes she would be outside eating and smoking. We still gave her some tip when we were done with the company-lunch, but I felt she did not deserve our gratuity.
But these are unpaid breaks. So it makes no sense for me as a worker to make those brakes from economical point of view. I’d rather work less efficient than make breakes, these are almost 4 hours lost per week. Tho I have amazing boss in Germany and he wills to pay our break time even if he’s no entitled to do so
This is why I love working in transportation in America. It's illegal to work over 14 hours per shift and no more than 70 hours per week. Hardly know what to do with all this free time!
As an intern in a factory, I didn't know about this. I had overworked everyday while my boss was in holiday for a week. He was shocked, but the speech was in a very similar manner.
35 hour week is becoming standard in the EU. With no reduction in wage/Salary. More annual leave Public holiday Bank Holiday and you cant work more than 48 hours for all work. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
I can attest to that thiy is accurate for an engineering job at Bosch. But there are other employers that do not care about the law as much. 35hour work week implies that Zach works in a company with IGM tariff. I do not think this is common elsewhere, but 40 is the legal maximum for a 5 day week.
42h or 43h are normal in Switzerland. The "city" closest to me, wants to introduce a 38h week for city employees. You can't imagine the outrage of all the political parties. 4h hours less, that's simply not possible. I'm sure there does not happen so much "working" in an office on a friday afternoon anymore. I
@@Leenapantherhumans have a pretty hard cap on what they can achieve in a work week. 40h is the maximum amount of actual quality work most people can put in. And that is not due to discipline, that is physically and psychologically more or less hardwired. Any work above that 40h line usually isn’t effective and doenst generate nearly as much as the prior hours to a companies profit or the GDP. Of course, occasional work overtime is sometimes necessary and creates value, but overtime being the norm and not the exception is a long term detriment to the worker and the economy
In practice this only really applies to medium sized companies and larger. Those with an actual HR and possibly a legal department. My daily work hours for example swing between 3h and 18h because I work as a courier driver for a small company that does contract work for for the German Mail Service during weekdays which pay out just enough to pay the bills, if that, and contract work for local weekly newspapers which tends to cluster toward the end of the week, so roughly 80% of my weekly hours are concentrated on Thursday, Friday and Saturday morning and unless someone can tell all those Sunday newspapers to please not all print their shit on the same two days of the week that's just not gonna change and since "Courier Driver" is one of the few industry niches that isn't unionized there's no voice loud enough to point out the madness.
It is illegal to work off the clock in the US. I was pressured to reprimand one employee for working less than ten minutes without clicking in her time.
This is correct, as long as we're not talking about healthcare. For some reason, in almost every country, when it comes to healthcare, labor laws suddenly cease to exist.
Concepts like "burnout", "overworked", "too stressed at work" are all American concepts. The only concept in Europe, especially Germany is high efficiency and productivity.
This is what I really like about german companies. I once worked a little on week ends and my boss told me I can't do this. Then I worked overtime and even sometimes as I work from home work evenings as well just to get my job done. My supervisor told me explicitly I shouldn't do that multiple times and I just work the numbers I should and if it doesnt get done within that time there isn't anything that can be done about it. This kind of work ethic is really amazing and makes me even more motivated to work
35 isnt really the standard in Germany. Only in the big well-paying companies. Working anywhere else? 38,5 might be generous, but there is a high chance that one will work 39 or 40h a week.
@@jonistan9268Obviously. As far as I have seen, many companies offer contracts between 80 and 100 percent nowadays. If that's not what you'd like to do: Move to Germany or France. You'll earn way less and you'll likely have a way lower savings rate. But with the savings you have right now, you might stand a good chance to build up something anyway.
Honestly, working in Germany is a Blessing! Okay i was born and raised here and i hardly ever worked in another Country, but all the Working Conditions here are just soooo good compared to other Countries. 😊 It depends on YOUR Contract, but i do have 30 consecutive Vacation-Days/Year, alot of Bonus-Fees like Weekend-Presence Fee (25% at Day, 50% at Night [Percentage of your hourly Wage], Christmas Bonus [at the end of the Year] , 13th Salary [once a Year], Vacation Bonus [twice a Year ,500€]...etc For me those are wonderful Working-Conditions! The Work-Life Quality is, thanks to Laws like no longer than 10h Shifts, is also much better compared to other Countries. Working here in Germany is just awesome for me and i would never change that for another Country.
I am working as an on-site supervisor for multiple Deutsche Bahn projects parallel to each other.. Last year I had like approximately 500 hours of over time. Was working on 42 weekend days / holidays and didn't take holidays for replacing this working days because we had huge deadline coming up. There is a huge shortage in personal in field of civil, electrical engineering along with hospital staffs. In these fields, over time is common.
This is also why workers are productive in Germany. They are in the top 10, as are other counties who insist that their workers take proper time off and holidays. Getting burnt out from working long days without rest is counterproductive in the long term.
In the 70s (as a grocery cashier) if someone called in sick it was talked about for a week like a scandal. We were all full time employees and highly regarded.
Workers and unions have long fighted for such laws. In Germany its the work time is gapped at 10h per day and 6 days per week. So its legal up to 60h/week. Anything more is against law, although many do it anyways.
It might sound strange that you're not allowed to work more than the normal hours; but it would not actually work if an employee could freely choose to work more; because then the employer could easily pressure you to "freely" work more.
In America your Boss hopes you forget about labor laws and just lets stuff slide until you go to a lawer and realize you can't afford it on what you are paid then just quit the job any way
Naive thinking!The judge determins whether this applies to you,and whetheryour filing has reasonable chances!If you loose,you are still in for the other parties legal costs!!!!!@@Creative-Play
@@pe.bo.5038 Wenn die Kosten übernommen werden, zahlst du deinen Anwalt nicht, auch wenn du am Ende verlierst, da der Antrag dazu lange vorher genehmigt oder abgelehnt wird. Ja, er kann abgelehnt werden aber das passiert in der Regel nur dann, wenn du selber Mist gebaut hast wie zb bei nicht zahlen von Unterhalt, dann kann es zb sein, dass die Kosten von Beginn an nicht übernommen werden. Prinzipiell aber hat jeder der ein zu kleines Einkommen hat, Anspruch auf die Übernahme der Kosten.
I used to work for a German company that had a presence in the US. They had no problem underpaying, firing, minimal PTO, demanding overtime, etc in a country where they could.
In Poland, the labour code mandates you to take a 10-business-day vacation (14 calendar days) once a year. Employees, depending on the seniority, have from 20 up to 26 days of paid vacation. Plus most of the corporations here provide so-called "vacation allowance" that adds up to you salary after a completed vacation. Weekly, there must be at least a 2-day break from work and it's illegal to have less than 11 hours between work shifts, so your work day (8h) with overtime can't exceed 13 hours. My friend works for an American corpo, but under Polish labour contract. His manager is furious that he doesn't work overtime for free and just logs off when the clock hits 8 hours of work. Even if the manager wants to fire him, there must be a justifiable reason to do so, so the employee doesn't sue the employer for breaking labour code. And even if they fire him, depending on the time worked, the notice period varies from 2 weeks (employee worked up to 3 months) up to 3 months (over 3 years with the employer).
@@thelostlight.For sure I can! At the 39th second, the boss asks "Does number 69 means anything to you?" which confuses the employee cause he thought it was sexual and his boss wanted him to do it. So he said "What do you mean by that?" which his boss replied by a totally different topic and said it's about the working hours. Hope this helped. Have a great day!💕
As a German this isn’t the truth everywhere. Counting hours only became a law last year and it doesn’t mean the hours you work more get paid or added to your holiday.
@@mariaz.-k.3546 It is a famous position in "romantic" relations ... if you want to find out more, google it - at a private device and place (not safe for work)
I remember refusing to work longer than asked at my job one day. Next week my employer cut my hours in half in retaliation. We also have "at will" law saying a job can fire you for any or no reason unless you can prove it was discrimination, but good luck on that. Beautiful Land of Opportunitie.
Yes and no. If you are employed, you can't work over 10 hours. In reality it is 10:45 because you have to make two breaks. But if you aren't employee or working in shift work it's more normal to work longer than 10 hours, you will get more free time between the shifts 😂 Not to forget the 24 to 30 days of a year and you have to take them, the boss will insist on that.
I am British and I was a contractor in Germany in the early 2000's and I worked 12hr days 7days a week for 8 months, loved doing it, and Germans are great works.
To work Germany is not even a bit like that easy. Some Jokes were funny but its no realistic picture of how its to work here in Germany. The most bosses in Germany dont give a shit about there workers lmao.
They give “a shit”, otherwise there will be consequences for the employer… but overall if you don’t work in the low payed sector… the bosses will be nice to you, because we Germans have these laws not without reasons… it also profits the mental and overall health of the employee… and if the employee gets sick the employer have to pay six weeks the normal salary, just after that the employee get the sick leave from the health insurance…
If you notice them doing anything illegal, go to the union responsible for your field of work and make a complaint. Even if you're not a member (and you should be one!) they'll sort it out for you and mostly even provide a free lawyer for labour laws.
They might act like they don't give a shit but trust me they will follow the law or go bankrupt because the fines for not doing so are designed to absolutely destroy them if its happens repeatedly, in order to make room for employers who follow those laws.
I could introduce you to two dozen US citizens right now that commonly work more than 66 mandatory hours a week. They did an 84hr week last month. 84hrs. Mandatory. (It's legal in the Proud South) Close to retirement, needing the insurance, unable to keep up with rent increases, they can't "just quit".
I'm so glad my current job forces us to work 8 hour days. Overtime is very rarely approved. I've mostly worked jobs where excessive overtime was the norm, and if you weren't willing to work 10+ hours of overtime weekly, then you weren't working hard enough
I can't believe this. My regular working day was 12 hours. Once there was a trainee and two fully trained people called in sick from his shift. I couldn't believe it but they asked me to work 24 hours. 24 hours on a double time Sunday. That day I made as much as some other people in my city make in a full week. When I left work fortunately I was still Wide Awake. I didn't have to ask the bus driver to make sure I was off the bus at a certain stop.
As indonesia, i laugh so hard when germany said "konto", especially when they said "your konto", thats why one of germany company "kon-tool" is so hype in indonesia.
I worked in Germany sometimes Day and Night. To help the company in urgent situations. Without any payment for this. Later I got fired. Because I don´t wanted to work more hours without any payment. In my last job I got paid only 19 hours per week. All more = without any payment. But I needed 20 % more hours, to do my work best. After six monthes I got my best Employer reference. And i worked very hard for this. But I lost my job. Only limited for six monthes. Time over = go home.
Not only is working over 10 hours illegal in Germany, it's the employer that's liable if you work longer than that. This is to ensure that the employer will enforce the ≤10 hour rule out of self-protection.
Been a chef for nearly a decade in Germany and according to my boss having nearly 1200hours overtime is perfectly fine and doesn't need extra payment or time off
As an Indian I feel that the work environment has a huge difference between both countries. Germany is really a great place to work where a person's personal life is valued
I’ve been working in Germany since forever and I’ve been mostly forced into 12 hour days up to 6 days a week for most of it. Never had a boss like this. I wished. And ofc, I always got paid for 7 to 8 hours. I’m in media production
What they don't mention: 40% of your monthly income gets taxed off, 19% VAT and 2€/L gas prices. Oh and we pay SHIT-TIER wages on the global avg. But at least you get time off to wallow in despair and financial destitution. Regards, an actual german
its crazy how american employers will try and drill into your brain that this is completely unreasonable while other countries have had it like this for years
This is like the reason I even consider leaving the us. It’s not that I necessarily think it’s bad what the us has but it’s a lot better in other places.
