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Knowing God (1) : the Potter & the Clay‧Rev. Edmund Chan‧ Eng. Version 

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What is your image of God?
Definition of theology? The chief aim: to think godlier about God in order to know and love God
This conference is about theology, not making to know god. Not only intelligent
What this conference seeks to do?
1. Seeks to provoke thinking
2. Seeks to provide perspective
3. Seeks to promote the pursuit of knowing GOD!
Hothouse of God (is so fragile, need to be protected in the greenhouse)
1. Just exist between the pages of bible and inside four walls of a church
Many people regard God to Emergency
Our priority of God is determined by our perspective of God
What comes into our mind when we think about God is the most important thing about us
3 fundamental things:
1. Knowing god does not begin with a clever mind
God reveals himself to us for our benefit
*** God is knowable
Book of Ezekiel : know that I am the LORD.
Apophatic theology: (denial) what He is not
Cataphatic theology: What God is like.
Theology made relevant in discipleship
Transcendence of God -- he is other worldly, over and above
Immanence of God -- He dwelled among us and is with us
2. It cannot happen with a stubborn will (cannot know God)
(Fove movement in knowing God)
1. Self will -- I am going to do what I want and I don't care what God wants.
2. If God gives me what I want, I will do what He wants. (exchange of good will)
3. I will give God what he wants -- and believe by faith He will give what I want (performance trap/bargain/ blackmail)
4. I will give God wants - in full surrender(not give up is give into the love of god)- because he knows best and desires the best for me!
Surrender is the key of discipleship
True Biblical Discipleship
I will give God what he wants because he knows the best and desires the best for His Glory.
3. It will not deepen with a presumption heart
Potter and Clay:
God is the potter : the second chance
The clay is mud, god does not give up on us
We are spoiled we are mug but the potter uses us, reshape us, redeems for his glory
That is the kind of God we have
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@redeemedbreathling8406
@redeemedbreathling8406 5 лет назад
Right theology gave me PEACE me during my operation and chemo journey in an almost death bed. I realize one can be in a christian church and yet held on wrong teachings, which can bring a lot of anxiiety, worry or fear. I was honestly asking “ Where is the miracle now?” or “What have i done wrong ?” Or “Maybe i need to sacrifice more” and lastly wnen in exhaustion I will say “Maybe i just need to neglect myself or be numb about circumstances and routinely go on what I do in church”. Its soooo much different to have right biblical theology. Peace, love and joy is what Im experiencing now though im in a difficult cancer journey now. If you read this do pray for me, my young children and my husband.
@dinegerri9416
@dinegerri9416 2 года назад
Praise God for your life Ptr. Edmund Chan. I am from the Philippines. I am sooo blessed with this message. To God be the glory
@damascusroad07
@damascusroad07 10 лет назад
Thanks to Rev. Edmund Chan (and to all Christian leaders and pastors) for sharing God's word in Singapore. There are many Singaporeans who are materially wealthy but until now do not know who Christ is. I pray that Rev. Chan and the other Christian pastors, leaders and non-leaders will never tire in sharing the gospel.
@dinegerri9416
@dinegerri9416 2 года назад
Salamat po O Dios
@jamesvallespin3998
@jamesvallespin3998 6 лет назад
Im just thankful to God that he use you pastor Ed specially your book "Growing deep in God" leads me in the right path ..I'm growing in prayer!
@johnerwinchan7279
@johnerwinchan7279 7 лет назад
Praise God for this...it made me realize that my theology I thought is right is really not right especially the part of movement in knowing God
@Seethwin
@Seethwin 9 лет назад
Thank you for uploading!
@serenesein8925
@serenesein8925 8 лет назад
That main things the main things by ps Edmund Chan
@marias1208
@marias1208 4 года назад
Thank you for putting this conference online. It has truly blessed me.
@Aaronllll
@Aaronllll Месяц назад
57:40 poem is amazing! Is thia original poem from Edmund Chan?
@cschristan1
@cschristan1 9 лет назад
Goodness gracious! What a horrible explanation of the potter and the clay that this pastor have given. Does he not know what the true teachings of the potter and the clay is really all about? Didn't the apostle Paul give us a sobering explanation about the potter and the clay in his epistle? Romans 9:14-24 - "For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?" Did God make a mistake when He created Pharaoh to be a "vessel of dishonour"? Did the potter (who's God in this context) accidentally "spoiled the clay" while He was fashioning the pot? If one simply sticks to Jeremiah 18 and skips Romans 9, they are not doing justice to the Sovereignty of God. Did God needed to tell us the reason why He declared, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated."? All the Scriptures say is, "for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls" (Romans 9:11) Meaning to say, God's love for Jacob was unconditional and so too was His election. And vice-versa can be said of Esau in His hate. One piece of advice, Reverand Edmund, stick to the Word and not your own understanding. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil. It will be health to your flesh, And strength to your bones."
@chuaseahhui
@chuaseahhui 8 лет назад
+Chris Tan What talking you?
@cschristan1
@cschristan1 8 лет назад
Sunny Chua What's your problem in not understanding what i have wrote with regards to this false teaching posted on this channel? What is it that you do not believe, let alone understand the Sovereignty of God in Romans 9? So, what you want to talk?
@spiritedtruth3490
@spiritedtruth3490 6 лет назад
Chris Tan, your response show an arrogance of yr own understanding rather than that of Edmund Chan. The Potter can only shapes us to His perfection if we allow it. That is the dichotomy of our freewill given freely too by our Sovereign God.
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