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KOJIE SAN SKIN LIGHTENING VS. KOJIE SAN DREAM WHITE ANTI AGING (difference, similarities) | ARA G. 

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@aragalenzoga
@aragalenzoga 2 года назад
HOW TO LIGHTEN THE SKIN? HERE’S A VIDEO FOR YOU!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZUkHvkzGca8.html 🤍
@krichellemitch4764
@krichellemitch4764 2 года назад
Ate ask ko lang po If Okay ba sa 15 years old ang Kojie San Dream White? Thanks po
@tchalametspeach3026
@tchalametspeach3026 2 года назад
@@krichellemitch4764 you don’t need to change your skin color to be “conventionally attractive” luvv. All skin colors are beautiful
@krisdavis8405
@krisdavis8405 2 года назад
Thank you Ara for another Vid. I am not Filipino yet most of your vid made sense. I also like positive say, that background sound is way to loud then your voice. Maybe you can adjust for optimum sound quality. Again appricte your contents and thanks haaps from USA / Australia
@faithflora5522
@faithflora5522 2 года назад
@ARA G.please can you make a video on what product's you used with kojie san soap for skin lightening.
@Ai-leenCadenas-ui6un
@Ai-leenCadenas-ui6un 10 месяцев назад
ano po cream po gmit nyu s face
@aragalenzoga
@aragalenzoga 2 года назад
FINALLY!! KOJIE SAN FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PART 2 IS NOW UP! 😋 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NPcz3llkIvE.html see you in this vlog!!! 💯
@aragalenzoga
@aragalenzoga 2 года назад
to those who uses rejuvenating sets out there!! Here’s a do’s, don’ts, & tips video for YOU! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IVp4GHluD_o.html ❤️
@cherylsoso3694
@cherylsoso3694 2 года назад
The kojic classic makes my skin yellowish white and i noticed ive been using it for a month and only a little bit changes in my skin but when i used the dream white people started complimenting and saying i was glowing for a week
@valeriakalhia4015
@valeriakalhia4015 2 года назад
I agree with this. That's why I stopped using the classic. I don't like that yellowish look
@monicashanelucero3305
@monicashanelucero3305 2 года назад
May I know if you have dark skin or dark areas of your skin?
@eynjel15
@eynjel15 2 года назад
yes thats very true, actually im fair complexion na tlga.. pero nagtry ako ng classic pra maremove lng scars and darkspots pero naninilaw balat ko maybe bcoz of the orange colorant added sa soap.. so maybe ill try the dream white
@myday0623
@myday0623 2 года назад
Alright. Might as well use dream white this time now.. been using the classic for a long time & results were visible, noticeable talaga oldo medyo mapusyaw na ako pero lalong pumusyaw at naging mestisa kulayko na pinkish ang kulay ko esp sa cheeks , rosy... this time I want to renew my skin, naging dull siya dahil sa work sked ko.. I hope it works.
@danrosbelt7874
@danrosbelt7874 2 года назад
can I ask? please gladly answer, can a teen, 15yo use the dream white anti aging kojie san soap?
@ezralorenzo9629
@ezralorenzo9629 Год назад
proven q na ang DREAM WHITE ANTI-AGING SOAP, i used it for almost 4years na, it made my skin white, hydrated, moisturized & blemished free i used it together with kojiesan cleanser + toner, highly recommended ko xa 👍👍👍
@leeharuto9941
@leeharuto9941 2 года назад
I love your chanel because you speak English in ur whole video really great 🤗
@princessitta
@princessitta 3 года назад
My favorite one and yung pinaka subok ko na is the kojiesan classic. Dahil jan sobrang pumuti ako, andami din nakakapansin sa videos ko na pumuti ako and I'm proud to say na dahil yun sa classic na kojiesan sinabayan ko din ng kojic sa seol Korea na brand. 😊😍
@AbheepshaGhatakh
@AbheepshaGhatakh 2 года назад
Hi how did you use it. And how long did you use the soap
@monicashanelucero3305
@monicashanelucero3305 2 года назад
Anong lotion mo sis?
@lem1874
@lem1874 2 года назад
OMG your skin is glowing and beautiful!!!
@milenapuckett4873
@milenapuckett4873 2 года назад
Wow, watching how my skin transformed before my eyes within a month was admittedly unexpected, I just applied what I wrote about (although actually took about 6 weeks for my skin to whiten completely) I just go’ogled Kandy Lumizore, and noticed the difference the first 2 days.
@sparksprint_975
@sparksprint_975 Год назад
Which one did you used??
@shahul8222
@shahul8222 Год назад
​@@sparksprint_975its a scam
@laken1804
@laken1804 2 года назад
Thank you for the review. Very clear and concise comparison. It is very helpful.❤
@moviesozone8113
@moviesozone8113 2 года назад
I have use the kojic San dream white oh my gosh it sooo good if u use this soap u will never want to leave it again but some how expensive and also resolve fast I also try the other base on the fact that I didn't see my dream white but not that good
@njan6160
@njan6160 2 года назад
Can we apply on face
@moviesozone8113
@moviesozone8113 2 года назад
@@njan6160 yes
@sadiajahantina6783
@sadiajahantina6783 2 года назад
Does it whitens skin please reply?
@njan6160
@njan6160 2 года назад
@@sadiajahantina6783 embrace ur natural color
@moviesozone8113
@moviesozone8113 2 года назад
@@sadiajahantina6783 yes very well
@namrakainat491
@namrakainat491 2 года назад
Can u make a video on like the difference btw thw original and fake kojie san soap or just make a video on the packaging and wht exactly the original soap look like tht would be helpful for us to compare
@sachikalycaira1895
@sachikalycaira1895 3 года назад
Learned a lot! Thank you for this!
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 2 года назад
Collagen on products doesn't really add collagen to your skin
@marymarparzuelo9713
@marymarparzuelo9713 3 года назад
Always watching your vlogs po 🥰🥰 I love the way you explained it. 9 years using koijie san 🥰
@sakshitiwari8148
@sakshitiwari8148 3 года назад
Hey does it work?
@vaniaaakkk7243
@vaniaaakkk7243 3 года назад
Did it lighten up ur skin tone?
@RAIZU958
@RAIZU958 Год назад
I have been using it for 3 years...yes It does work
@iambewitched.
@iambewitched. Год назад
We have the same observation that's why I am using Dream White instead. Not a fan of putting lotion 😅
@aldrinrivas8673
@aldrinrivas8673 5 месяцев назад
The right one "dream white" , I used ever since and helps me cure my minimal acne, . although di nmn tlga ko nagkaka acne madalas, thanks to my genes hehe but I never switch after that.
@victorinaavila1542
@victorinaavila1542 Месяц назад
What if i used classic kojic for my body, and the other one for my face ??
@User-jc4zu
@User-jc4zu 3 года назад
Atee can you talk about how to lighten underarms?
@yaok248
@yaok248 3 года назад
And knees!❤️
@cherryy.yyyyysenu5149
@cherryy.yyyyysenu5149 2 года назад
Is that okay if we apply ponds cream after washed face with this soap????
@vinjeigh6296
@vinjeigh6296 3 года назад
I will Apply what i have learned from you Bes Ara! 😍 nhahawa ako sa smile mo.. Goodvibes talaga 😊😊😊
@blaxblax2163
@blaxblax2163 3 года назад
ara g plz tell a different between real and fake kojie san soap...😅
@StudyandDanceMotivation
@StudyandDanceMotivation 3 года назад
New subscriber💕Please make video for whitening teeth permanently.By the way love your video 💕
@kathyflorendo7077
@kathyflorendo7077 3 года назад
Your so pretty! Omg
@candycanemissy8878
@candycanemissy8878 3 года назад
I lovee uuu sister!!My favourite!!❤️❤️
@aquaestheticssonglyrics6357
@aquaestheticssonglyrics6357 3 года назад
Another helpful information 💕
@lynsnavaja5619
@lynsnavaja5619 4 месяца назад
yes totoo talaga c kojie san nkaka puti talaga...❤
@snowmin3725
@snowmin3725 2 года назад
I have dry skin can i still used kojie San skin lightening soap .❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@kaede1_346
@kaede1_346 2 года назад
You can use it but you must always moisturise after even if your skin is oily or dry 😙
@princessitta
@princessitta 3 года назад
Very informative and sobrang helpful nung video. 😍❤️
@Anonymouss_99
@Anonymouss_99 3 года назад
Ara, do you cut your soap before using them? 😊 I'm so happy that you always posting now. Love watching your daily vlogs, routine, skincare tips ❤
@kibikino7553
@kibikino7553 3 года назад
I personally cut my soap into little cubes, as of now I’ve been using one cube for 3 weeks and it’s still lasting!!
@Anonymouss_99
@Anonymouss_99 3 года назад
@@kibikino7553 thank you.. 😊
@jadebeaut4463
@jadebeaut4463 2 года назад
@@kibikino7553 where do you put the cubes is it okay if they get wet
@YdkmeL
@YdkmeL 2 года назад
I do hotel cuts on my soaps it lasts long aswell :))
@stantreasureandbp1798
@stantreasureandbp1798 Год назад
@@jadebeaut4463 i set aside the cubes in a ziplock and i don’t recommend getting it wet if you’re gonna store it
@leeharuto9941
@leeharuto9941 2 года назад
Can I use it on my face too?
@peachesnhose5884
@peachesnhose5884 Год назад
You need more subscribers!
@realyncastanosramos4270
@realyncastanosramos4270 2 года назад
Dream white is safety than kojic classic hnd na stress yung balat natin and hnd natin kelangan mag tago sa araw pag naka dream white tayo kasi dahil sa mga ingredients na pinag halo hanggang sa makabuo ng kunting protection para sa araw at tsaka dream whte may coconut oil moisturizer and buhok ng balat natin maayus kikinis din ang balat natin at hnd mahapdi sa balat pag naarawan
@janedelacruz1313
@janedelacruz1313 Год назад
San makakabili ng K san dream white?
@Kiera12656
@Kiera12656 10 месяцев назад
@@janedelacruz1313watson or 7/11 sis merun po
@neiljohndacuma9987
@neiljohndacuma9987 3 года назад
is it okay to use kojic anti aging soap at the age of 17?
@jro3057
@jro3057 3 года назад
Yah 10yrs old pataas pwede,ayon sa box ng kojie
@neiljohndacuma9987
@neiljohndacuma9987 3 года назад
@@jro3057 U sure?
@neiljohndacuma9987
@neiljohndacuma9987 3 года назад
@@jro3057 Wala naman naka lagay dun
@hetaeramancer
@hetaeramancer 3 года назад
@@neiljohndacuma9987 okay lang yun sayo 17 years old, hindi edad yung tignan u kundi ung reaksyon ng balat mo sa sabon. Kung di maganda yung epekto ng sabon sayo, ibahin mo nalang yung sabon.
@user-dx5bn4yk4f
@user-dx5bn4yk4f 2 года назад
Nope, wait until you're 18 or 20. Don't damage your skin that early, but if you have acne on your face at that age, you could use it, but please consult a dermatologist first. Hope that helps, don't listen to these careless adults.
@zeahrhon9201
@zeahrhon9201 2 года назад
Napaka soft spoken ☺️ Hindi masakit sa tainga yung boses and sooo pretty sissy😍
@Madeinh
@Madeinh 2 года назад
Thank you so much
@sheenlopez-quintos5376
@sheenlopez-quintos5376 3 года назад
Can we use it alternate so we can get the collagen effect too? 😁
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 2 года назад
Use retinol if you really want to look youthful, collagen products dont really boost your collagen
@Craftsmanbloxyyt
@Craftsmanbloxyyt Год назад
@@nenabunena what is retinol
@hazelasmr15
@hazelasmr15 3 года назад
Can we use this soap in face??
@mohammadnaeemmohammadsalim5366
@mohammadnaeemmohammadsalim5366 2 года назад
Hey Ara Hii, Thanks, I was Asked About Kojie San Soap, That Can We Use This Soap On My Head is There Any Harm to Hair, When I am Getting Shower, Or Only Face And Body, Please Answer Dear, 👍😘
@angcobmontia4106
@angcobmontia4106 2 года назад
, its only face and body.
@Mahiyamahi12344
@Mahiyamahi12344 Год назад
Please tell me which app you are using to edit the video🥺🥺
@julianacortes2396
@julianacortes2396 2 года назад
Ate ara pwede po bang mag gamit ng lotion ibang brand pagkatapos mong iapply ang Sunflower Oil at A bonne?
@imnobody8458
@imnobody8458 3 года назад
Yoooo! Welcome Back Princess ❤️❤️
@ricodineyanto2552
@ricodineyanto2552 2 года назад
Ano pong mas effective kojie san soap or skin white with kojic soap+retinol?
@adonisgraza9595
@adonisgraza9595 3 года назад
Can someone put the link to authentic soap for the US pls !!
@lem1874
@lem1874 2 года назад
BHealthy on amazon. Sweet Suzy on ebay. I've been buying from both for years. And theirs is the real deal!
@mervilssanchez
@mervilssanchez 3 года назад
Anong brand ng lipstick mo and anong shade? Thanksss
@mariaafrin9141
@mariaafrin9141 Год назад
Hi ara ❤️.. Which is best ?kojie san Classic / hydromoist ??
@aljyiipojv
@aljyiipojv Год назад
You look very beautiful ❤❤ Ask some questions 1-Can I use my own skin cleanser when using Kojie San soap? 2-Can I use hyaluronic acid serum, vitamin C serum When using Kojie San soap?
@mdjaved8321
@mdjaved8321 3 года назад
What u use?
@realyncastanosramos4270
@realyncastanosramos4270 2 года назад
Hindi porket hnd amoy matapang eh hnd mabilis tumalab thats wrong 🤣wrong wrong kojic classic hindi magamit ng karamihan dahil sa subrang tamang at ang karamihan sa puro pampaputi lang ang kojic acid na classic pero yung dream white andaming ingredients na mabuti para sa skin natin may vitamic C nga yung dream white eh
@rtnamsayn8090
@rtnamsayn8090 3 года назад
GALING GALING NAMARN BABYYY YARN? ❤️ MORE POWER
@ArvindKumar-je7iw
@ArvindKumar-je7iw 3 года назад
Glutathione and college soap's are effect or not? ( Like kojie San soap ) Please reply..🥺
@Heisy888
@Heisy888 2 года назад
Alin ang pwede jan for pimples?? Pleasee anyone can answer my question?
@dusklightyt9054
@dusklightyt9054 2 года назад
HI Po ask lng kung nangaling ako sa kojie san at nag switch ako sa uni kojic pwede ko bang ibabad ang uni kojic ng 3-5 min?
@laodicean8653
@laodicean8653 4 дня назад
Where to get them
@TanjiroKamado-iw7dg
@TanjiroKamado-iw7dg 4 месяца назад
Dream white is better trust me
@laken1804
@laken1804 2 года назад
What's up with the sound effects? They are distracting.
@scrodge_reaper
@scrodge_reaper 6 месяцев назад
Filipinos love that sound
@satakhisaha
@satakhisaha 2 года назад
I have many questions in my mind? Is it ok to use this soap with hands or do I need to use loofah n all? can I use this soap on my lips too along with face? Is it okay to use skincare products like face wash, toner, moisturizer, face serum, night gel while continuing this soap? Can I use this soap if I hve keratosis pilaris on my arms? Will this soap reduce keratosis pilaris and strawberry skin on my legs?
@aismeuwu
@aismeuwu 2 года назад
1. No you do not need a loofah you can use your hands. Just be sure to lather well 2. I see no reason why you can’t use it on your lips although it might be drying and irritating and yes you can use it on your face 3. I use hyaluronic acid serum and moisturiser after using the soap and my skin is fine 4. I have slight bumps on my arms too and it has helped a little by exfoliating while using the soap 5. So far there haven’t been too many changes to my arm bumps but it might differ from person to person. As for strawberry skin I’m not sure about how this soap will affect it. Hope this helped
@shiny9026
@shiny9026 Год назад
It works wonders it has cleared my arm bumps within a week
@hetsi1238
@hetsi1238 3 года назад
When will you come live?
@cristinaduenas2348
@cristinaduenas2348 2 года назад
Its ok to use a skinol and moisturizer after use koji
@shavezkhan3403
@shavezkhan3403 2 года назад
Drying skin body lotion and face moisturizer plz name
@Rsanjanasanjana
@Rsanjanasanjana 3 года назад
I like you videos
@shairaginoy6041
@shairaginoy6041 2 года назад
Can you pls make a vlog about a bonne salt vs active white salt?
@rowenapaler6634
@rowenapaler6634 Год назад
Ur pretty 😍
@Dailyfood571
@Dailyfood571 Год назад
Where do I purchase the original soap Also please share the link where to buy
@presymarak1592
@presymarak1592 Год назад
Can I apply daily on my face
@elsa-qo8nj
@elsa-qo8nj Год назад
where can I buy the original one
@user-fx9cn9qs5e
@user-fx9cn9qs5e 3 года назад
I suggest u to make whipped soap with these two soaps
@naz-kg3yq
@naz-kg3yq 4 месяца назад
Sounds so good, how do you do this ?
@markkennethtibunsay211
@markkennethtibunsay211 3 года назад
Nice content arah shout out next vid plsss
@nysiedelacruz8200
@nysiedelacruz8200 2 года назад
Ate pwede po ba dream white kojie San with kalamansi tapos po bunlawan mag sasabon ng silka?
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
Please don’t use kalamansi. Kojiesan soap is enough. Remember to rinse off immediately within 2-3 mins. 5 mins max if you don’t have sensitive skin. If you want to use another soap after, I recommend moisturizing soap instead of another whitening soap. You can try dove or baby soaps.
@satanramirezramos8367
@satanramirezramos8367 2 месяца назад
So i dont want white skin. What do i do
@piggy5455
@piggy5455 3 года назад
Is koji san soap safe for 11/12/ year olds?
@aprilrentutar1349
@aprilrentutar1349 3 года назад
Yes
@hetaeramancer
@hetaeramancer 3 года назад
Check the effect on your skin, if it's bad, stop using it
@rasa618
@rasa618 6 месяцев назад
can i use it both at the same time?
@ricamaeimboy2000
@ricamaeimboy2000 3 года назад
For me, the best is KojieSan Zero Light Pigment❤❤❤
@sakshitiwari8148
@sakshitiwari8148 3 года назад
Does it work please reply
@ricamaeimboy2000
@ricamaeimboy2000 3 года назад
@@sakshitiwari8148 Yes, it's very effective. It lightens my skin and underarms😊 I also use lotion because the soap makes my skin dry.
@shinigami5200
@shinigami5200 3 года назад
Pwede po ba 2x gamitin sa isang araw?
@ricamaeimboy2000
@ricamaeimboy2000 3 года назад
@@shinigami5200 yes po. 2x ko po siya ginagamit, in the morning and then sa evening😊
@khlarie
@khlarie 2 года назад
Hi po.. sana makita niyo po ito :) nakakaputi po ba siya? And pwede po sa face?
@jennyfercahilig1425
@jennyfercahilig1425 2 года назад
Me not know but how about soap dream white become skin white know do?
@thedelights7
@thedelights7 3 года назад
Hi sister, like every time you killed it ❤️❤️ but sister I have one concern, which is, if teenagers start using whitening products or anyone at a young age so it will cause wrinkles and loose skin at the age of 24-25, so plz telll that is it a rumour or not, plz reply 🙏🙏,btw love you, hope you remember me ❤️❤️❤️
@jessamynmalabanan-degrano3075
@jessamynmalabanan-degrano3075 3 года назад
Hello. Ano po glutathione can you recommend?
@thedelights7
@thedelights7 3 года назад
@@jessamynmalabanan-degrano3075 sorry,but I don't know any glutathione
@kaede1_346
@kaede1_346 3 года назад
She has been using since 13 yrs old but her skin is still beautiful
@n.f101f2
@n.f101f2 2 года назад
It doesn’t have bleach or anything init. When Asians use the word lightening they mean brightening
@maubesa8944
@maubesa8944 2 года назад
Hi can we use both?tnx
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
Yes. If you bathe twice a day, you can use the anti-ageing at day and the orange one at night. It’s because your skin will be less sensitive when you use the milder one.
@her7_11
@her7_11 Год назад
Can teens use the dream white soap??
@crisscrush7333
@crisscrush7333 Год назад
Im 12 years old and im using dream white for 1 week and its really efective my dark spots on my face is slowly fading
@kimmbadbadon0914
@kimmbadbadon0914 3 года назад
How to lighten underarms on nxt video even luxe organix products
@shavezkhan3403
@shavezkhan3403 2 года назад
Kojie san soap use for face Yes no plzz reply ❤
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
You can lather foam on face for 10-30 secs only and rinse immediately
@AelizeVlogs0322
@AelizeVlogs0322 2 года назад
Am using kojie san for 1 year na for my face
@subhoroy2691
@subhoroy2691 2 года назад
Which country are you from ?? Philippines ??
@samantha-fb3ep
@samantha-fb3ep 3 года назад
Dagdag nanaman sa kaalaman🎉
@lipsamallik6509
@lipsamallik6509 3 года назад
Hii plz original vs fake kojisan soap mai ek vdo banao
@catherinesamonte3881
@catherinesamonte3881 2 года назад
Napabili ako nyan kaso ndi ako nahiyang 2days ko plang nagamit 3pimples kagad tumubo🥺 buti nlang maliit lng binili ko
@melvina20071
@melvina20071 3 года назад
How many shades will our skin become lighter
@anuragg.2664
@anuragg.2664 Год назад
6 to 8
@dianacarrillo1088
@dianacarrillo1088 2 года назад
Can you apply the soap near your eyes?
@valeriakalhia4015
@valeriakalhia4015 2 года назад
You can't. It stings
@alesandroalbert
@alesandroalbert 2 года назад
Is it okay to use it as a facial wash?
@shabeymaepacana6942
@shabeymaepacana6942 2 года назад
pls no
@shabeymaepacana6942
@shabeymaepacana6942 2 года назад
especially if you're skin is sensitive
@pearlinperil9985
@pearlinperil9985 2 года назад
@@shabeymaepacana6942 using it on body only that means your body will get whiter and face won't...why would someone want to look like that 🤭
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
You can. Lather the foam for only 10-30 seconds on your face and rinse immediately.
@putriyushi8212
@putriyushi8212 3 года назад
Brightness please.. if i watching your video always over brightness
@daveangeloobico7028
@daveangeloobico7028 3 года назад
Omg its hdr 4k 60fps vlog quite rare though
@user-xo4xs5jd7l
@user-xo4xs5jd7l Год назад
San u po nabibili po yang dlawahan naghahanap po Ako s lazada wla po
@momshieweng
@momshieweng 3 года назад
Sobrang tapang Ng dream na cojie San
@nunki_space
@nunki_space 3 года назад
SA pimples po ano mas better sa 2??
@catlover2498
@catlover2498 2 года назад
Anong kulay nang buhok mo sis? Thanks
@tal4562
@tal4562 2 года назад
How long po siya dapat ibabad sa face?
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
Wag po ibabad. Lather the foam in face for 10-30 seconds only and rinse immediately.
@dija4836
@dija4836 Месяц назад
The backgroun music is louder than yout actual voice its annoying
@jessalynmacale-fabillar3347
@jessalynmacale-fabillar3347 3 года назад
Pwedi po ba syang sabay gamitin?
@roxanneabunas1696
@roxanneabunas1696 2 года назад
okay Lang ba gumamit ang 15 years old?
@ladyangelineonza8956
@ladyangelineonza8956 2 года назад
Naghihilod pa po ba kayo pag gumagamit kayo niyan?
@monicashanelucero3305
@monicashanelucero3305 Год назад
asay mas nakaputi ana?
@Black-xy4pj
@Black-xy4pj 2 года назад
Where did u buy it?
@daniela4177
@daniela4177 Год назад
Amazon
@shavezkhan3403
@shavezkhan3403 2 года назад
Kojie san Winter use review plz
@donnam7766
@donnam7766 Год назад
Oooopss, not recommended as winter will make your skin dryer and more sensitive to acid. If you realky want too and skin is not sensitive, use the white/anti-aging version of kojie san as it has a littl moisturizing ingredient.
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