Konnan on: Bret Hart burying Jon Moxley 

DISCO INFERNO talks about BRET HART being jealous of TRIPLE H ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hb_tQt5mCHA.html

Speaking the truth is not burying. You may not like it, but Bret is not lying.

This is why Sheamus, Gunther, and Drew continue to shine in the ring. They're the throwback wrestlers who can put on bangers after bangers after bangers.🎉

Brett Hart is not the only person to say any of this. The fact that people (particularly in AEW) get hurt at a ridiculous rate for things that look poorly staged is very telling.

I’m 41 and consider myself now a casual fan. I miss the combo of good technical wrestling with entertaining storylines. (Monday night wars). Something to consider is having you guys doing podcasts on past and present wrestling is actually helping someone like me want to pay attention to modern wrestling to stay in the loop. So on that level you guys in my opinion are helping to keep it alive.

I said it before, I am Canadian and when Bret Hart speaks about wrestling we all listen collectively as a country. Lol

Disco is spot on. The work is a HUGE part of why I don't watch any wrestling anymore. I sure miss the Bret Harts days

This is why Gunther is currently the best champion on TV...

I'm 100% with Bret on this. I actually just sent a friend of mine a clip from an AEW match where you can clearly see members of the House of Black looking up at Orange Cassidy for like 4 seconds (at least that's what it felt like) and waiting to catch him on a dive while Best Friends are giving him a boost over the top rope. It's like a lot of talent today in both companies (but I notice it in AEW the most) just seem to miss the little details of things.

This is a reason I love watching European wrestlers like Aldis, Sheamus, Drew, GUNTHER, etc. These guys are believable and bring a little legitimacy to the sport.

Don't forgot to mention you can hear them calling spots now in the ring grown-up I didn't even know they talk to each other while in the ring

We are about 10 years from 90% of wrestlers understanding what Bret's point is.

Idk if i would be considered a young or an old fan, but at 29 years old, i completely agree with Bret. I watch for the few who keep it legit like FTR, MJF, Gunther, CM Punk etc. Rhea and Charlotte put on a great example of what wrestling should be at WM 39 as well.

Jon Moxley and Eddie Kingston so badly want to be these tough Stan Hansen or Bruiser Brody type guys and they just aren't. it is cosplaying tough guys.

Bret is always right, he is like the conscience of pro wrestling.

Bret is the man! He should have started his wrestling school back in the early 2000's. We would have some kick ass wrestlers to watch today.

I'm sure the super-cool AEW marks all reacted to this like normal people would, right?

Bret is right on. Plus with his storytelling ability, his wrestling ability and his proven ability to be a good champion and get and stay over, if anyone is qualified to give an opinion on what wrestling should be, it’s him, because he knows what works.

AEW fans suddenly "don't like Bret Hart" lol

Bret is 100% right. I talk about this with friends all the time. Look at a lot of the matches from the 80's. It looked more believable than today.

He’s an instant channel changer

Bret Hart literally laughed at the idea of him joining the AEW roster. AEW is a failing company.

Bret better watch out, they won't invite him to anymore AEW events and the fans are gonna start turning on him, start saying "he out of touch". You know how sensitive they are about getting criticized.

It’s funny how everyone knocked Bret for “taking himself too seriously”. Now everyone is seeing how far wrestling has jumped the shark and they miss Bret taking everything seriously.

All elite wrestling tries to present Jon moxley as this badass no-nonsense double tough guy but it's just not working because he looks like a guy who works at guitar center

Wrestling fans were chased away when Cena became the guy.

Can rarely disagree with the Hitman🤙🏾 Was my favorite wrestler. I also agree with what he says regarding wrestling today. Even I notice the choreography and assisting each other in matches.

disco is on point with the video game comments. i always like to hear k-dawg and DI

Older fans used to have wrestling parties. It meant more than today

I love oldschool wrestling. And the crazy thing is I literally just came across a show last night that has an oldschool style. Can't believe I finally found it.... DUNGEON WRESTLING

It is absolutely true. I've watched since the 80s, and I still watch today. Difference is, in the 80s until around 2003 I used to watch every part of the show. Today, without any exaggeration, I forward through 80% of it and only stop and watch if something genuinely looks interesting. The current product all round is trash. It hurts, it's sad, but it IS true.

Like 95% of the wrestlers of the present-day do Superkicks while slapping their leg once their foot connects to their opponent's face.

Brett Hart is spot on. Moxley would had been job guy in 80`s and 90`s in wwf and wcw.

Disco is so right here. A lot of older people are watching out of habit.

I try to watch modern wrestling and I can't do it. It's almost impossible for me to watch a live event because of all of the dumb things that go on during matches, but I can sit a watch an entire show from from the territory days up to the attitude era with no problem. Podcast like this are more entertaining than the current WWE and AEW shows, it's really frustrating to see how bad wrestling has gotten, the upsetting part is that it's probably going to get even worse.

Bret Hart speaks the truth. The formula has been severely bastardized and he's more than qualified to speak on it. The saddest part is, AEW has created a fanbase that applauds the shell of pro wrestling that we're seeing today.

what I really don't get about Jon Moxley's run in AEW is that he's been their top guy twice and both times failed yet Tony Khan is keeping him around. Why?

Y’all ain’t wrong. I’m 35 and been watching since I was about 6. I’ve gone thru phases where I wouldn’t watch wrestling and then get back into it. I grew up watching both wcw and wwf and ecw. Wrestling will never be what it was once but it is still something I will watch out of habit like disco said

I agree; older people just watch because it's a habit. It's just something they are used to.

Think of it like that scene in Private parts where they discuss Stern’s ratings. A huge portion of the audience were people who did not like Stern but wanted to see what he does next. I started watching AEW to see what this company would do to freshen up a sport I used to watch with my dad. Instead of freshening it up. Now I find myself fast forwarding most of it.

As a 41 year old man that has been a fan since 1991, I can say that I watch more out of my love for What wrestling was, rather than what it currently is. I watch because professional wrestling has been a part of my life for 30 years, and it's hard to break away from something that you've loved for that long. Honestly, I hate 95% of what I'm seeing today. I can't sit through a show from either company, but my life still revolves around the business because I love it.

I'll take simulated combat over coordinated gymnastics any day of the week & twice on Sunday.

Bret Hart was one of a kind and he’s speaking his mind. I think everyone should respect his opinion. That guy put wrestling before anything…

Bret always spoke the truth on his view of wrestling. I’m the same way I can’t watch it no more is not the same And I was watching wrestling since 97

Bret was absolutely correct. This wrestling product, isn't what things use to be. It just doesn't have the same effect. Just a bunch acrobats

Bret’s right but the haters will hate. Greatest to ever do it.

I was a Dean Ambrose fan, even with the awful booking. But I can’t stand Moxley. He’s a fake tough guy trying to make out like he could beat up the terminator, then he blades, then he could fight Godzilla. He’s just not a wrestler, he’s not an entertainer, he just sucks. He forgot the tools that made him stand out

Can't wait for legends to talk about Konnan this way 😂

Bret just repeats what Disco has always said and suddenly everyone goes "Hey yeah."

Bret Hart speaks the truth AEW is garbage and it’s BS “ inside joke “ crap is stupid.

Disco learned more backstage then Konnan did collecting percentages from luchadors

I spent many hours yelling "Stop dancing and cover him!", but yes, Bret's opinion carries more weight. Like, really?

Disco is totally right about the habit of watching on Monday nights. When football season is over and that’s not an option I find myself ending up on Raw no matter how good or bad it is.

Bret was spot on with everything he said. These are all the same reasons I i don't watch wrestling much anymore

AEW is the worst run company in history

I don’t watch wrestling anymore, but I imagine older fans who still do are (in some cases) like fans of sports teams that perpetually lose. They’re used to the heartbreak, but they remember the good old days and desperately yearn to see something resembling a good matchup, and maybe once in a while they do. And the rest gives them something to complain and commiserate about.

The thing about not being able to draw new fans is interesting…I’m sure at least some parents introduce their kids to wrestling….that being said, I was born in 1986…my dad wasn’t really into wrestling so I don’t know exactly what sparked my interest initially…I’m just glad I was around for some of wrestling’s best moments….it either clicks with you or it doesn’t…like science fiction or anything that’s considered “niche”

Nick Patrick made a very good point about today’s modern wrestlers. They think, they had a good match if they remembered all their planned moves. There’s two problems with this thinking: 1. They spend too much of their match trying to remember their next move and not paying attention to selling. 2. This is my big problem with all this planning out the entire match, what happens when the fans don’t care? Hogan gets crucified because of his “lack of wrestling skill”. Yet for the majority of his career he had matches with huge crowd reaction and it was all called in the ring

I'm 58, and I still watch. I take time off sometimes when it starts to get really stupid.

Bret is spot on yet again. I talk to a lot of older people who all echo the same sentiment. These are people who grew up with wrestling as a staple of entertainment. They just can’t stomach it now

Give me a classic match from the 70's or 80's any day of the week

Movies are for the theater. Straight to streaming is the new straight to VHS.

I'm at the stage where i read the results and see of anything is worth watch ..that and I will always tune into the WWE big 4 ppvs..

Wrestling is actually creating some new fans, especially the recent WWE stuff. I’ve seen and heard about quite a few new people and even some personalities are getting into the show, it’s just a complete different audience.

You know you love Shane's punches 😂😂😂

Because disco inferno dancing down to the ring sounding like a Muppet baby felt real to me damnit

"The television viewer" the only people that watch television is the older crowd. Everyone else does it on apps or RU-vid.

😂 disco looked like he could dance like john Travolta, dunno if I ever thought he could fight

Disco is absolutely spot on here. I watch every week to all the WWE/NXT/AEW shows just because its been a routine for me for 30+ years since I was 10 years old. Hard to change now and just not watch anymore.

The problem is also that promotions like WWE are hiring people who aren’t passionate about wrestling. They hire guys who couldn’t make it in their industry that they chose. Wether that is sports, acting etc. and that took away a lot of the products value.

Bret’s just mad he was never as over in Canada as Halk Hogan was at Mania 18.

I went from a hard-core wrestling watcher because I grew up watching wrestling since the territories (not early territories) but kinda the last living territories, to not watch wrestling anymore, when WCW died that's when I stopped watching wrestling, not even as a casual wrestling watcher.

I love how nobody understands numbers. The average wrestling fan is older, because they are creatures of habit. Disco is right. Wrestling is not growing, the numbers seem bigger because the metrics have expanded and the algorithms have improved, but the average trends are trending downward and older. Wrestling's niche is appealing to 18-30 drinking crowds.... That is why the Attitude Era did so well, it wasn't the explicit content specifically, it was the demo they were targeting. It gave college kids a reason to go to a live show and get hammered, and it appealed to high school kids because it seemed edgy to them... and then it appealed to their younger siblings because thats what the older kids were into.... and on the flip side people over 30 would enjoy it because it was adult enough not to be corny, but not so over the top that they couldn't take their teenager to see it. It's counter intuitive to tradition corporate marketing strategies, but it is what makes wrestling "cool." Balding men in their mid 30's with guts and unkempt beards is not "cool" and neither is Disney on ice in a wrestling ring, but those are the core audience in a weird way... and the only way to market to both effectively is to market in between them.

I was a Ruthless Aggression era kid, so personally I think that era was a perfect blend of Attitude Era edginess and great in-ring work. I was fortunate enough to watch one of the finest most talented roster of workers and performers in the history of not only WWE, but the business. I dropped out when my country's one TV network took RAW and Smackdown off the air. Thanks to the internet, (and wrestling podcasts namely, Talk is Jericho and Keepin it 100) I got back into watching wrestling when I was in college. At first I was entralled by the highflying new school style. Overtime I felt myself losing interest again. The matches started to feel soo samey I started to predict em move to move. The obvious cooperation rankled. The poor selling. The terrible looking striking. Wrestlers grabbing holds that looked too loose and not even bother appearing to crank said holds. On and on until I went on RU-vid to watch stuff from my childhood. To see if the overly fake looking work was always the case or was it because I was older and could pick it out better. I was very happy to see that I was not being nostalgic. With all due respect to a number of current talent from this era, many of the current crew just don't cut it.

I agree with disco so much to choose from now. The only “new fans” is the 90’s kids that quit watching in the mid to late 2000 and have recently started watching again.

I somewhat agree with Hart. When three guys are fighting outside of the ring and then they all stop to catch the 4th guy but the 4th guy takes maybe a few extra seconds to get to the top or leap so the guys outside the ring are just stuck waiting. That bugs me a bit. Also, the fork into the head. Yeah, I don’t need that. The sound of a cookie sheet on someone’s skull still pops me

Bret Hart never needed to bleed to get himself over. Guys like moxley have little wrestling talent and need to resort to nonsense like this to get over

The boys are collectively correct. The fact is, ratings do not tell the story on wrestling or it’s lack of popularity. It’s why Nick Khan says WWE’s competition is “everyone”-you have video games, your phone, Netflix and every other service else competing for the same households in terms of entertainment. Back in the day, when you had the boom of wrestling the entertainment landscape was different. All that said WWE just ensured it’s survival long term with the Endeavor deal. AEW, I predict will get 3 to 4 more years on his current deal and then it will either go under or Tony will get tired of it and off load it to someone. The money train will only last so long. It might even get bought by WWE/Endeavor. If you look at the ratings (which don’t tell the story but in some ways do) as social media impressions AEW has stagnated in terms of viewership or growing new fans. It’s consistently the same numbers growth and the potential for growth is what it is currently. It’s great that AEW has that niche but that’s not going to make sure it stays on television. When your product is what’s presented on TV you have to have compelling stories and characters which WWE even it’s lean years has succeeded in doing (debate that or not now Vince has a boss and even more shareholders to answer to-so if it sucks with him in creative now there will be no choice but to change). I can guarantee if the ratings drop off majorly Vince will step back. I know the narrative surrounding him is strong but he’s a sharper businessman than he’s given credit. AEW needs to course correct like yesterday if it wants to be viewed with value. In media today it’s quality over quantity.

Bret is only saying what Cornette was saying for years. WWE made Moxley a goof as Dean Ambrose not because they hated him but to protect Moxley from himself.

Dude it’s 2023. No one pretends that wrestling is real anymore

Geez, believable stories and conflict with actual violence or the professional simulation of it. I would come back and watch that.

I turn off as soon as I see Moxley and yuta acting tough, absolutely cringing

Best will always be the original of "Keeping it 100"

The only thing Moxley has done outside the WWE is show us all why they let his contract expire, and that without the WWE machine behind him he's sucks.

I agree with you guys

We are living in the age of content creators and people marketing themselves on different platforms to be famous and make money. Social media changed the way people see reality, and there is no turning back.

There wouldn't be that much thigh slapping if everybody didn't do 30 Superkicks in every match. I get what Bret means about the guys waiting for someone to jump on them. It happens IN the ring as well as on the outside. A guy is laying in the center of the ring. His opponent climbs to the top turnbuckle. The guy gets up off the mat and waits for the guy to reach the top, turn around, and jump. The guy clearly has enough time to move out of the way, but he just stands there and lets the opponent land on him. It doesn't get any faker than that.

Just one thing I'd like to disagree with, sticking a fork in someone's forehead for 5 minutes is wrestling to me damnit! 😂

Old fans are still watching for the love of wrestling in the hopes of it getting better. 😢. Just as older people now a days we have a better attention span than these young kids

Very surprised to kinda be giving Disco credit lol.. something he said was Very smart. I'll put a different spin on it.. every girlfriend, mother, sister, aunt, grandma? I've ever known? If they started watching soap operas? They watched them till they passed away. No Matter how bad the shows got.

Bret is an OG if you don’t agree with him that’s fine, but he’s absolutely right! Things are not the same, the guy is a true wrestler/legend he knows exactly what he’s talking about!

I would watch a Greg Valentine match on repeat any day of the week over a moxley or omega match

I am all for blood in pro wrestling, but if you do a blade job every week it completely defeat the purpose and cheapens the realism of pro wrestling as a whole

There is also way too much wrestling on today compared to 1996-98. PLE's are basically free as well. The Attitude Era was a perfect storm of talent, timing and amazing luck. Austin caught on, Rock ended up the biggest star in Hollywood, Hogan turning heel and the screwjob? The odds of that happening again are slim to none.

Bret Hart is not wrong that's why i love old school wrestling the most and all my favorite male wrestlers are legends and Bret Hart is my number 1 WWF top favorite

How did Disco make this about him 🤣 nobody who said Disco was wrong is automatically going to agree with Bret, they would just lump Bret in with Disco in the "old people yelling at clouds" meme they have convinced themselves is reality.

Well everyone should start supporting dungeon wrestling. Put your attention on what you want

Why is Disco Inferno doubting why Bret Hart has more credibility than him, especially about wrestling??

NJPW appeals to me the most these days because it feels more adult and in-ring is more realistic than what the Americans are doing. As a bloke in his mid 30's WWE is extremely tough to watch, I've got a love for the art so I still watch regardless of the shite. I'm sure alot of the older fans would prefer AEW to WWE purely because it's aimed towards a different target audience.

Honestly said it better than i ever could. There is something about todays wrestling that is just awful i can’t watch it. Bret sums it up pretty well