Konnan on: Kenny Omega's real life heat with Disco Inferno 

3:10 if you're trolling how are you keeping it 100. Total contradiction. & How can you you judge an entire promotion YOU ADMIT YOUVE NEVER WATCHED/DONT KNOW, off 1 clip 🤔 I can post tons of bad wwe clips. Just look at Becky's recent goggle sunglasses/space sunglasses 🤣

@@akadvcyoubeezy6748 you're comparing sunglasses to really bad wrestling? I hope you understand how shocking stupid you've made yourself look.

@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I'm Gen X guys. You are 100% correct and AEW is a weird show. Not much episodic television and 39 dives over the top rope in a 2 hr period. Matches where everybody has to get their shit in. Talented but gets old . Who are half of these Indy wrestlers who don't seem like they're ready for TBS or TNT?Who is that woman fighting Thunder Rosa? Why? Why are the big names not wrestling each other? It's a weird show. These snowflakes don't get we want AEW to succeed. We love the business. We know crap when we see it. I refereed for an Indy promoter here in MO in the early 90s. The guy who Glen Jacobs started with. Saw him before Smokey Mountain. My buddy was in wrestling school in Texas with Steve Austin. Used to set up rings and take them down. Love the show. I enjoyed Konan and Disco. Disco was hilarious and really good worker. Konan was fun to watch. All different styles in the ring he could do. Both great workers. These podcasts are great guys . God bless you

Wanted to add something else for Disco. Since the curtain call it's hard to be a good heel in today's wrestling. It's also not easy to do the everybody messes with you routing and you can laugh at yourself. Most people could not pull that off and be entertaining. Disco is so good at this and always was. I loved the Jackie match and I respected you back then for that. I know it wasn't easy at that time. I respect the willingness to put someone over. it's lacking in this business. Like the Don Callis stuff with Disco. That was fantastic guys. Good comedy is hard to do in wrestling. Bad comedy is easy just as bad wrestling is easy. Sorry to be so long winded guys. Watched wrestling since the 70s here in St.Louis and have about a TB of old wrestling on a hard drive. You guys are my favorite podcast. I like Bischoff too. Ok I'm done now. Thanks for the years guys.

Cc cvv

And he gave himself his own company championship lol unreal

@@GMMANN419 Kenny is an epitome of mid carder

Wcw never got 8.0 ratings bro. Stop being a mark.

Kenny Omega is so overrated. He does the goofiest shit and is a terrible booker for the women.

Disco Inferno couldn't draw anyone, you have to have big level talent to draw people in order for them to unknowingly see Disco

I like Kenny Omega but to think that Disco was not ever over has to make you wonder about his knowledge of wrestling history. Not to mention that the TV title storylines had more people interested than any of the storylines involving AEW's current TV titles.

Yep, you could tell him to go out there and do a basic ten minute match with nothing flashy involved and he wouldn't be able to do it.

@John Lindsy Jobbers/Enhancement talent are only there to lose to both mid-carders/main eventers. Jobbers don't go in the history books, was day workers, had full time jobs outside the ring, never cut promos, was usually local talent. Konnan was a mid-carder in WCW/TNA but he was a World Champion in Mexico. When he says he could make sure Disco is taken care of in Mexico, he's not lying.

@John Lindsy Ah yes, I agree with you about Konnan and the US and not having the "it" here. I just didn't see your point about him being a "jobber". He was always reminding me of a sidekick ala Robin to Batman. Now granted with the behind the scenes shenanigans that go over in WWE/WCW, who knows?

ROH, AJ Styles and NJPW is what made Kenny famous. Kenny left WWE training due to Hugh Morrison screwing out a lot of potential wrestlers, only Miz sticks around because he was dedicated to WWE.

@@captaincat4361 Brooklyn Brawler was the most recognizable wrestler in the federation, he almost beat Triple H back in the day.

Tag team match of the year when he tagged with Hangman against the Bucks and 5 star matches with Bryan and Moxley

@@johnnyhazard6305 Nobody cares about Meltzer's lame star system. Every Bucks match gets 5+ stars and Kenny's are not far off. It's just Meltzer jacking off his favorite lame wrestlers.

omega shoved his finger in and out of a guys ass in the ring... hes a joke.

Kenny believes he can blend anime and a wrestling game into his performances

@@lionheart3429 that much I know. I actually hoped he would go to NXT for a year or 2 but was more thrilled with him starting in AEW. I just wasn't impressed is all. I expected more🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe that's my fault.

Omega made more money than disco and you sleeping on how big the audience is in Japan. Disco inferno had better character work but omega is a better wrestler

@@pleaseshutup7053 only because pro wrestling fans are at their dumbest now. And will throw money at anything. No matter how terrible.

And Danhausen too.

@@attitudetv92 yeah he’s gonna ruin hook

@@730hooker I agree with you, 💯 true facts

Some of that is ignorance and part paranoia. Wrestlers are always wondering how genuine the advice they get is. Is it to help or sabotage you. It can be hard to tell.

@@1983jcheat While I can see your perspective, it's hard to say a guy like JR is trying to take your spot. To me, they should be able to know that guys like JR and William Regal ain't trying to take their spot but help them to get higher on the card. I truly believe them not having a solid, training facility really is hurting them badly

@@daniellehinton463 I was speaking on the critism of the veterans who still actively wrestle. I agree Jim Ross and Regal aren't trying to screw them.

Was Russo speaking out of personal experience?

@@DirkTheReunification Yeah, he said that a lot of the young guys in TNA were hard to deal with. They thought they knew everything already there is to know and all they cared about is putting together long, garbage high-spot matches.

Yeah they were too stiff and having too many early retirees because of it

Yeah that's always been a creepy situation. Meltzer and others gush about these girls but when you hear these people talk you know its past fandom. They think no one over there can do any wrong and go on and on about the sport and respect and all that. Meanwhile half the live crowd and their larger home/tape viewing audience are hoping to get used ring gear from these girls or send strange fan mail trying to buy used worn wrestling gear. Have to wonder what the fandom is and if you would really want it.

@@TheEWFX29 I subscribed to the WON from '92 to '05. I think Dave's fandom of the Joshi gals didn't have any hidden agenda. He appreciated their work, but he wasn't going overboard on their talent like many of the diehard tape trading fans were back then. It's creepy to watch Meltzer today having to defend anything that Kenny Omega says or does and this is just another example of it. I'm no fan of the WWE by any means, but the women wrestlers there are better athletes, are safer to work with (sans Nia Jax), have far better hand-eye coordination, far better footwork, far better timing and when left alone...have far better psychology. What the WWE women generally have to do takes far more skill. What the Stardom girls do takes far more of a toll on their bodies. Somebody like Charlotte Flair or Becky Lynch could more easily adapt to Stardom and put out great matches than Kamitani could adapt to the WWE and their style. Of course, you could have probably said the same about Misawa trying to adapt to the WWE in the 90's. But if you met somewhere in between like old time St. Louis territory wrestling or AWA style wrestling or even Mid-Atlanta or Florida territory style wrestling, Misawa's talent and skill would easily shine through.

@@Richie3Jack Thankfully your a real fan who is tempered and fair with your reasoning and appraisal. I don't think Dave is part of the creepy fan problem though sometimes I wonder. Like when he says Japanese audiences are much better and smarter fans than American fans are because they cheer at the right places?!?!? He does have a semi troubling fascination for all things Japan that does make one wonder about his mental state sometimes. But the way they treat those girls over there and then make then quit at 28, i think before 30 i know which is changing thankfully, which is a bit of a troubling set up. Its seems they are treated like animals to perform and when they start looking a bit old they are made to step down. Women as girls is a big thing in Japan. I am no expert and quite out of my element on this subject I must confess, but as an outside observer it can be troubling to read about in some instances.

Especially since their boss offered Cornette a job.

In the wrestling world there are wrestlers, Bookers, and Fans....wrestlers can't be Bookers booking matches for the fans. It's like saying cops knowing how to do Surgery you know Doctor work 🤌

Not all of us. I love aew so I’m a mark. I also love listening to these guys. To be fair, I would not call disco a job guy, but parts of his career were dolph ziggler adjacent in that hey, this is an established mid card guy that can sell so let’s have him “job” to someone on their way up. That’s an important role in wrasslin. But no, the inferno was not a jobber lol

I mean up until recently I've preferred AEW over WWE (I'm kind of neutral on both recently), but a lot of the AEW internet fans are tribalistic af. I remember one time having one bad thing and like 10 good things to say about the lead up to full gear last year and you'd think I was the most horrible human being in the world with some of the responses I got.

@@mapsgoonthewall5396 so disregard the responses and move on.

Yeah I also like cleaner gimmick also that what I like him

WTF is the "cleaner" gimmick?

@@omarhosam8880 really?

@@TheIslandDivision yes, really? It's fucking stupid.

@@TheIslandDivision yea what is it?

Either that or Kenny is direct depositing 6 figures in his bank account every month.

Japanese sex doll: Hold my beer

Exactly. You ever see McMahon in Twitter battles? I rest my case.

@@Ratmann8436 exactly man. Vince may be hard to deal with but he's a BOSS. Tony Khan is not.

Cokie the Khan isn't an adult. He's a 12 year old fanboy in a 40 year old stat nerd's body.

He's more over than most of WWE minus the Attitude era guys like Edge and Cena. Honestly had they not spent billions pushing Cena then Disco and Konnan would still be bigger than him

The best disco match was disco vs Goldberg a true masterpiece

You think Stardom is garbage, Watch DDT wrestling were Omega wrestled too. IT'S A JAPANESE FETISH WITH PORNO SH*T

To be honest WWE women's division are the only ones that you can really get into.

Stardom isn't DDT bad. but they do allow ridiculous shit at times.

@@tw475 It's just a bunch of child sized girls playing anime dress-up... i am starting to think that Meltzer should just start watching competitive high diving and freestyle gymnastics instead of wrestling.

They couldn't make it as idols. So now they become wrestlers. It's the Good Will store of Japanese wrestling.

😭😂

If we had replica title belts everywhere back in the day just as much money would've been spent. I would have killed for a big gold replica back in 96. 97....now I have several.

In todays wrestling climate disco would be the equivalent to a Madcap Moss

@@jice201 Madcap Moss is more popular than all the people WWE released in the last 2 years that WWE haters swear are all the greatest wrestlers in history.

@@renafan3333 Sure, well that’s what disco would have been in todays wrestling. A lower tier mid carder that’s there to be pointed at and laughed at like madcap.

@@jice201 like AEW? There to be laughed?

especially since omega shoved his finger in and out of a mans ass in a match.. literally.

Kenny Omega would be a jobber back in the 90s. he is lucky that wrestling is the way it is today so a fool like him can be a top guy.

@@IASP17 Agreed

It also is disrespectful to actual enchantment talents

You realize WWE has been thriving off of shopping in the same pond lol they took Finn Kenny was next in line in NEw Japan IE bullet club

It has been tho

Combined

@@GMMANN419 and that's not changing any time soon

Bianca Belair has better ring gear than the entire AEW roster. Those guys look like they just woke up and came to work.

@@Teee762 that's why she made it to a higher position in WWE than Punk ever could. She looks like a star, Punk looks like an emo teenager

@@philwalsh8975 you missed meth addicted somewhere in there.

Awww.. tissue?

I thought the same thing. lolol

I bet you are the pride of your Reddit page with that comment.

@@SyndicateSuperman Im not on Reddit, some of us go outside......

Yeah if you got a casual fan in the room they're waaaay more like to know disco over kenny. And kennys meltzer assembled ego can't handle it.

Disco was not over. He had go away heat with me personally. A disco gimmick in the mid and late 90s 😂 what a joke

@@joshuagumpert8910 To say you don't like him is one thing; to say that he wasn't over is another. He was over in WCW; fans would dance whenever he came out to the ring. On top of that, he appeared in several talk shows during that era. It's ridiculous to say he wasn't over whether you liked him or not.

@@adarkprofilepicture1313 nobody was rocking disco merch, doing doing disco moves on the trampoline, playing with disco figures, hanging up his posters, or ordering ppvs because disco was on the card 🤣 Nobody. He is on nobodies top 25 or 50 list. Sorry. It’s true. He also is terrible at conversation. He mumbled his words and talks over everyone.

​@@joshuagumpert8910 Yea, no. lol Disco was over as a mid-card. You're just saying this simply because you don't like him (and like I said, that's fine).The most common merch people would wear are Hogan's, nWo/Wolfpac, Sting, Four Horsemen, and Austin's. That's practically it. By that logic, you could say that about most of the roster back in the 90s because you rarely saw merch of anyone else unless those shirts were worn by hardcore fans.

maybe listen to what they have to say first before you start crying man, they're not trashing Kenny at all

@@cabftft4338 who's crying lol 😂? Don't create your own fantasies about someone's mood

He won't do it. Because if he's confronted about AEW's bad ratings or his meh run with the title. He would have to admit his failure.

Hard to do that when the top of the company does the same thing on Twitter.

@@Matt-cr4vv and that's why they can't expand their fanbase. AEW are a joke company, right now

Like, lol he didn't realize he was low key sh*tting on the talent there while taking shots at Disco. This is why Cornette still goes at him regularly, now I'm starting to see why.

It's gotta have him holding a Blunt.

If Kenny demanded to fight you in a loser kisses my boots match, would you comply?

@@DUFFYISBACK Who's lawyer I have to talk to for that? I already challenged him to a sanctioned bout, in front of cameras, without cameras, spectators a lil or a lot, he's the one that deflected on me.

@@TriplomatX Hahaha thats cool man, Does Kenny act like a hard man then?

@@DUFFYISBACK No, he just act like a "disciplined fighter", keeping it Kayfabe to his fans while they're doing his dirty work telling me he's thins bad ass cage fighter, though his wins were off rookies & his one and done with a professional fighter was a loss.

@@TriplomatX wait a min, omega has fought professionally lol?

Lets see wwe 45+ years history ,mainstream attention and connections ,the hollywood in wrestling a world wide brand vs aew 2,3 years old and indy....... Damn becky and sasha have had probaly more tv matches than most of the aew womens roster together Dont forget this is their best era for the women in wwe in 45+ years if you go by looks with the skills to match it. Let aew define its own look and identity wwe has got theirs

@@1kizhun 3 years, an unlimited budget, and a TV deal and they're still "defining" themselves? Stop it

@@natebaxter9551 wwe know what look their going for with the female wrestlers what look aew going for with the women tony aint looking at lingerie catalogs but jokes aside whats the aew look there aint one , wrestling wise which wwe era womens wrestling is better than this one Oh the joshi girls got it going on there's whole industry behind them when they get right tv, music, movies apperances the lot and becky making tv appearances shes doing better than most she should do more i say shes fun

@@1kizhun WWE being around for all that time is why AEW aren't booking well? what a weird thing to say

@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL wwe took years to develop the women divison to the way its is now from womens looks to talent but some dude wants aew to match it like for like across the board after 2 years or else they aint so good VKM and john laurinaitis has a veiw that over done sexiness is like half of the womens wrestling skills but if they really can wrestle great "well fantasic she'll be a super star" For AEW women just let them to find out what really works for best them to be different to wwe. Now does TK need to have the women dressed in shiny colour outfits dress code then get them celebrity tv guest appearances to be wwe equal if Tony Khan was thinking that way that womens roster would not look the way it is now.

In what universe? 😂, Carbon needs to put the blunt down.

Also Vince Russo heat.🤣

Lance "Charisma of wallpaper paste" Storm.

what was the question?

@@IASP17 I was just agreeing with Konnan. Not all Canadians like hockey, there are like 3 that don't. There was no question.