Konstantin Kisin: Woke Culture HAS Gone Too Far - 7/8 | Oxford Union 

That is exactly the point why the world goes to waste. People who think logic is their fortee but it is not. Just dreams and hopes that someone somehow will find a solution for the problem isn't logic, it's not even an opinion, it's just laughable. That's why a professional comic is presenting it. I don't have any hope left for mankind if jiokes are taken seriously by the most of the people. You don't want to change so your grandchildren will spit on your grave like you spit on their future.

Except it's pigeon chess for most. They never listen to rationale.

actually it’s comments like that that makes it so what they need is positive reinforcement they are told nothing but negative by the left so they immediately think everything is negative and whenever you say negative things about them they are just confirmed and then whenever they hear things that are Actual truth they refer back to the negative things to think they are being lied to so this shit needs to stop

Nah you dont speak for Americans. Just the loud obnoxious minority of right wingers.

Oh pls! Im American and Im not brainwashed by conservative bs like yourself. He is a comedian speaking on Science, that is the heart of narcissism. Climate change is real. This idiot makes no points. I know actual scientists and the facts are there. You right wingers are dumb and pathetic. This has nothing to do with woke. Ya;ll throw around that word where it doesnt belong.

I will be interested to see if he is invited or allowed to speak at any of our universities in the USA.

Did you hear the follow up? . You get married; you have kids and you become a MAN (

@@dutchreagan3676 it makes sense as a dig at single males as being inferior for not having children, and is a popular virtue signal among married traditional conservative types, so it wasn't seen as a joke.

@@james3876 He also refers to them as an 'Infantilized population' and looks at age of first marriage, age of first child, age of purchasing a home. We're raising a generation of useless sociology-majors with $60,000 in debt, who don't know 'how to' function in real life. There's the 'man' reference from!

"Go to university, become a woke idiot, don't graduate, and be too proud to admit your errors." We will be living with millions of psychotically angry big pharma puppets and I hope they realize this and come back to us. Be understanding, most are good but led wayward by bad.

Sorry but the man in the video is in his 40s

dito

are you an elderly lady now?

Well, I'm 63, and this guy is an a$$hole.

@@abc5228double idiot

And then they were looking at ultrasound pictures of the fetus at 9 months, 12 months, 20 months... That's more than old school, letting your wife gestate for so long...

@MyAqaa No, "pregnant 15 months ago" simply means his child is around 6 months old now (after being born)...it doesn't illogically imply that his wife is still pregnant. Some slow thinking people are apparently offended by the underlying truth in the joke and absurd extrapolations are their best attempt at a response. This is the hallmark of a woke mind searching for a comeback after being humorously exposed to biological realities.

@@en9a9eperelandra80 Pretty sure picking mistakes doesn't imply wokeness or opposition

@@insimpletermsyt Of course. I'm just pointing out his blooper but that doesn't change a thing about the quality of his speech.

@@en9a9eperelandra80 My remark was about the following part where he speaks about "months" instead of "weeks". Understandable mistake, he was just concentrating on his point.

There is nothing worse than a man saying we're pregnant.

@@salaciouscrumb555 indeed.

was perfect delivery ahhaha

@@DekkarJr true

The substance of his speech was terrible, but gotta give credit where credit is due... that was a funny line.

He said "throw soup on paintings".

One cannot be constructive unless one is also critical. Think about it.

​@@PlugInKaliAnd technically it wasn't even on the painting but the glass protecting it. So the speaker fails on that point of accuracy too.

Soup on paintings

@@quintwolf7185 Wow. You are so missing the point. Typical of your lot. Piss off

He wrong about everything tho

Who is Frances?

@@oli2173 no u

@@oli2173 oh and you know better do you? Then enlighten us all to why he’s wrong and exactly why he’s wrong?

@@brahmagupta99 he’s the other half of their podcast which can be found here on RU-vid

It was by Martin Luther King .

@@The762nato And he acknowledges that.

So then half of white people will be degraded I think? Let's be honest western people are the most racist people ever on the planet.

@@mattzimik5705 You are historically illiterate. Every society since the Paleolithic has defaulted to racism - the only society that has ever seen that as a problem is the West. The only civilisation to have ever abolished slavery is the West. The only society to legislate against racial discrimination is the West. Go away and educate yourself.

@@harpo345 For god's sake please stop the nefarious lecture on history. The west established slavery and when it was finally abolished after centuries of atrocious crime against humanity, you called that an achievement? That's proposterous dude. If the west you claimed care so much about humanity, why nearly four thousand reported case of hate crime against asians in the US alone? Have you ever heard of politically motivated mass scale hate crime against particular race in 21st century? Just admit that it only happens in the west. The speaker seems to have lots of knowledge of Asia particularly China and India while cunningly omitted Africa. I want to ask if he's even been in any of these countries. Your revered speaker is totally a pothead going around every right wing news channel spewing nonsense, somehow his delusional rhetoric feeding off to brainwashed fools. What a shame

True. One does not fully understand until being a parent. Plus, this is almost literally what we do Because having a child does always cause lots of pollution. But we need the line to continue.

Thats not true. So many people doesn't give a sh///t about their kids? because they so poor or their lives is so misarable. But one thing is true, this people dosn't care about climate change even more.

@@DreamWayClub there’s no reason not to care about both of course but I think the point was that asked to consider the real and tangible economic benefits vs less harder to visualise disadvantages - those parents would go with the first. In reality climate change is probably going to have a huge impact on economies especially in the poorest parts of the world where it will be felt the most.

And he doesnt even need a teleprompter and ear pieces telling him what to say......

Back it up with logic? Aaaaargh, how ugly dat is. It proves clearly that he aint woke.

Damn it’s almost as if he’s a grifter spouting nonsense and crying about the ‘woke’ - which conveniently has just become a word which means ‘anything I don’t like this second.’

@@Vin_Venture896 That seethe you have going on is kind of funny. You should look in the mirror, I think you will see something else to be angry about.

@@Vin_Venture896 which he is not, but we can tell what you are. A failed social experiment.

@@Vin_Venture896 how is he wrong?

@@Vin_Venture896 Narcissist!

I have to hand it to whoever invented the terms 'woke' and 'wokeness'. Seldom have there been better strawmen for right-wing reactionaries to 'push over'. Too bad it's all so ill-defined, and attributed to non-descript people, that it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Except that "climate change" has ALWAYS occurred, has NOTHING to do with atmospheric CO2 or Nitrogen volume (the more, the better for EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING), and the opposition to and reduction of both is PURELY POLITICAL and PURELY EVIL.

Nah, he's just dumb

@@4gsl So who has the money to spread lies about man-made climate change, which is definitely not real? Big solar panel companies? Wind turbine manufacturers? Big public transit? The lithium battery lobby? Or is it big automobile manufacturers? Big oil companies?

Thats if you believe the BS about it to begin with, sounds like you do and get easily led down the garden path

This speech is full of holes and it's being told in a very condescending tone.

​@@Palpad100Says who?

Show us your track record to take your opinion seriously.@@Palpad100

​@@Palpad100Do you mean holes?

​@@Palpad100says a woke, university attending leftist who won't make one difference in the world....wokes are be-ers not doers.

I watched a bit of it and tbh he came across as a Fisher-Price Andrew Tate. These aren't his own views, they are simply regurgitations of thoughts already out there, spoken to please his audience. Like I said, I only watched three minutes of it, but I'm guessing that to further 'mock wokeism', he goes on to say that he identifies as his parents bank account??

@@thesunreportpretty much. It’s really depressing to see everyone is the comments eat it all up. He spews out the same reactionary fear mongery arguments that 2 second google searches refute.

I saw it coming . I'm acuainted with a educated man ( a great musician ) He was having a conversation with another educated professional . They were talking about all the reasons God doesn't exist ... I am not an educated man . But it sounded like they were mad at God .

@@alexmancera6566 ​@thesunreport Don't cry, ladies

@@marcustulliuscicero2676 Yeah, conservatives definitely aren't trying to be woke about woke culture. Also, they definitely aren't trying to cancel cancel culture. Conservatives are definitely not hypocritical...

Brilliant you are a inspiration to us all

I sympathize with you. I think it all boils down to preserve your humanness and humility in the face of western materialism. And it seems many African as well as Latin American countries still haven't lost that ability.

God bless you sister

Wow damn is there any help I can provide???

This was a wonderful comment to read, thank you for sharing

And England and US in 19 century.

That Thunberg girl is a complete fake!

how is your english so good

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👍 .

Mark Twain was awesome

Yep watched him and his mate go on 'the' journey from shallow comedy and platitudes to serious thinking. Many others are too. The trouble is the opposite of thinking is so easy. Just repeat what the mob (media) are saying and instant acceptance

Best quote ever!

As a Russian living in US, it baffles me too. Very scary times.

For reasonable people in the West it is always very relieving to see such comments from outside.

Bhai which city??

@@rembrantwithagrenade171 Rajkot brother

Don't you have problems in your own country? What the fuck business is any of this to you? Is this that 'feminising' of males I'm always hearing about?

He is woke.

​@@bob-zi1ebexplain how

No, world consist on traitors and liars would be worse place.

Look up his interview with BBC Scotland or his appearance on Question Time. He is awfully good at this.

I've watched this man since they were struggling in their first studio and even I am surprised.

He always is!

I'm very familiar with his best stuff, but this was on another level.

With dad brain nonetheless!

this is what happens when a man has a faithful wife and family, and his own source of income. nobody can stop him from speaking honestly and courageously then

@@manfrombritain6816 good point. I'm certain my husband would agree with you 100% as well.

Ding a ling...its all BS

And no flash cards

You're simply wishing for your preferred brand of authoritarianism over the the left wing brand you don't like. Look at the 'don't say gay law' in Florida. This is a type of speech restriction coming directly from the right-wing. But, naturally, you don't care about it do you? You only care when it's supposed woke people who are doing the cancelling.

He did not think this one through. Depopulation will help with those poor people who want to get rich and stop the climate agenda. Just what the globalists are doing now.

If I'm 70 and that impresses me, I'd like to think it would be in a dementia ward.

@@ally11488 Not a very coherent or constructive reply, could you elaborate?

@@philhermetic Sure. Konstantin Kisin is running a business...namely, himself. The Triggernometry channel copied a model introduced by Dave Rubin's, 'The Rubin Report'. Both purports to be simply on a quest to find the truth, but ultimately, it's to push a narrative Charles Koch of Koch Industries, and every right-wing think tank agrees with. If Kisin et al are lucky, some of that Koch money will find its way into their pockets. I find it ironic that these people present themselves as being fringe, unfashionable and "cancelled", but in reality they have more influence on the discourse than those they constantly claim suppress their speech. I find it all the more worrying, bearing in mind it's largely a younger audience, someone of your age is taken in by this charlatan. Did you know he recently scored highly in a test to determine psychopathic traits?

Ain’t that the truth, and the irony.

I have heard "woke" people say that if they were the ultimate ruler of the world they would not only literally cut out the tongues of everyone in the world who disagree with them but they would do it in a heartbeat. This was a great speech but I hope some of the other speakers highlighted just how pathological these people are.

U must be very smart

Yes, I was tempted to criticise this point; feelings alone are rarely a complete moral justification. I'm inclined to give Konstantin the benefit of the doubt here, though. I think his intention was not to was not to *justify* the choices made by parents, but to point out that this is an inevitable part of the reality we face as a society trying to deal with certain problems. By including the personal perspective I think he only meant to underline the point with personal experience. But yes, in general it is a big problem that changes of view upon becoming a parent are seen by many parents as a *positive* thing and that "as a parent" is generally taken to strengthen a position. I don't see any reason not to consider the opposite: that "as a parent" your views should be seen as irrevocably tainted.

This is half the problem. You complain that the 'woke' movement has brainwashed young minds when you readily believe they would wish you dead. You are only driving the division. Brainwashing happens on both sides but only when it's in line with your beliefs is it acceptable. Get a grip.

He has to be destroyed for that reason. The woke universe does not tolerate dissent.

NO SHARON WE DONT

@@MrSatnavatron YEAH, WE DO.

i actually the majority of the world are like this but the ruling class makes people think they are in the minority w/ their corporate media propaganda machines

...except that it is irrational; and poorly-argued gibberish. Let me guess - you didn't exactly get good marks at school?

So you and your husband have too little education and not enough life experience to detect the fact that Konstantin was talking utter bollocks then?

Man you guys sound boring af

What were you applauding? His primary thesis is essentially “you can’t change things so quit complaining”. He delivered this speech while wearing a tuxedo and speaking at one of the preeminent institutions of elitist society in the world. You listened to this speech in your garage. I can understand why he doesn’t want things to change…I don’t understand why you share that view.

Ditto for sure! Just watched you on Tucker Carlson. ❤❤❤

@@crd6473 YOU. DID. NOT. WATCH. THE. ENTIRE. VIDEO.

Here here!

@@patriciafredal6308 Hear, hear!* ;)

He told a young white English girl who was targeted by gangs that white people shouldn't look after their collective interest. But KK gets to look after his poeple's collective interest. See KK was more than happy with Wokeness once it's not directed at his people. Or doesn't become a problem for his people.

Yeah he’s weird looking but he’s very smart and a charming speaker

@@voltairedentotalenkrieg5147 Can you elaborate more on that? I'm surprised at that.

I’ll do my part and send it around

I bet none o f you guys even understood his argument. The substance of his speech was rather pathetic. _It's the truth! Everyone needs to hear it! Those who disagree are zealots! We need to send it around!_ _What was the substance and merit of his speech? We don't know. But we're quite sure that it's totally awesome!_

No, it's not the truth. The truth is the exact opposite of what this man is saying. A sociopath will respond with hatred towards those holding him responsible for his behavior. This man preaches forgiveness to the sociopath by blaming the victim - which is what all sociopaths do. In other words, "KK" is just another sociopath apologist verbalizing every sociopath's inner dialogue with himself: "When you hold me accountable for my sociopathic behavior, it hurts my feelings." Same as it ever was..

@@Anten7 like he said u woke people only care about ur weak mind set feelings

How is a string of logical fallacies, "truth"? He's a liar, peddling nonsense for a demographic that wallows in lies.

With grace and ease

And an immigrant, with English as a second language.

Comedians are exceptional communicators and are generalists. IMO they make the best political pundits.

@@paulmoulton7248 Except in the US, there are few comedians left. Those that are left are writing TV commercials for insurance companies.

@@TankerKC Rogan, Dore, Crowder are noteworthy ones.

But they don’t and he is not stating a fact, he’s just lied. The countries with the highest emissions are the USA, Japan, Russia, Germany, India and China. He thinks poor people getting new toilets are going to be the reason for it, the bloke is a whopper.

That's why these climate change ideologues are all from privileged class.

Facts. You'll never see a working class woke person, it's always those who are comfortable financially

how is climate change more dangerous than starving ,the wokies are without logic

@@ojw5922 Absolute nonsense. Right wing are usually the ones that are financially comfortable, and many working class have socialist beliefs and want a better - more fair - world.

Ding a ling

@@ScottR10 Please seek immediate professional psychological help. You seem very disturbed

It’s illiterate and misinformed. Truly a terrible argument and I’d be worried about my cognitive capacity if I thought this were a sound mind.

@@jeromepuri9205 the Spirit of Common Sense is calling you.

@@jeromepuri9205 but you refuse to hear....why?

We are not entitled to free speech in the UK, unfortunately.

MrSteveGrey LMAO... just like Germany and France

@@MrSteveGrey i disagree. you have much more free speech in england than in many parts of the world. more than we do here in new zealand. you should notice and be proud of what you have. use your power.

@@MrSteveGrey Nor do you have the God given means to enforce it. Very sad.

@@estern001 Wen the population doesn't believe in God, rights are merely privileges handed to you by governments on the condition that you behave well.

This is such a brilliant case for embracing classical liberal arts education and why it has gone so far off course and we only value STEM now because we know its off the rails.

He wouldn't be allowed to be booked to appear on a campus in the U.S. We're too far gone to the left. The enlightened students of this country would shout him down and cry if talked to them in that fashion. They are just pitifully weak.

Every so often a man of integrity pops up to cheque those are just plain full of themselves! Congrats to this man for being a voice in the wilderness - let's hope that that those who have been brainwashed will pull their heads out of their butts long enough to realize the peril that they are creating...

You ain't that bad yourself at the verbal gesticulations.

What he said was completely illogical. It was false dichotomy, either you do nothing to curb carbon emissions, or you give up all improvements in living standards. It’s incredible how much impact such a stupid speech has had among right wingers.

Right, kind to his adversaries… except for the 1 in 100 who are trans, who he can’t help but take potshots at to score cheap clapter. Also, his “bridge” is empty. It has handrails but no floor, as he doesn’t actually propose any solutions. If anything, he implies that inaction is preferable.

@@evanhancock4657 Not even close to 1/100 is trans. His solution is for you to stop thinking you are a victim, work hard, and stop being afraid about stuff that you personally can't fix. Being trans is not special. Being a minority is not special. Being fat, thin, gay or straight is not special. You live in the most tolerant society in human history. Get over yourself.

@DontTreadOnTeachers I studied Critical Studies at the University in Birmingham in the UK, Sociology and Gender Studies modules, some CRT. I applied Marxist and feminist and postmodern theory to texts for my Contemporary Literature module in the English Department... The answers to climate change are not coming out of these departments. Leaps forward for society are not coming out of these departments, I'm afraid. These departments are trying desperately to make society think they are useful or valuable. They have very little utility, and actually do a great deal of harm from what I've seen. The Critical Theories have resulted in a denial of reality in favour of standpoint theory. The feminist theory I was taught is now used to put men in women's pri /sons. No, you can't "identify" as a scientist if you are not qualified. So no, STEM is not just another identity. If you want to discuss Critical Theories further, and why postmodern q weer theory project of "q weering" categories is not useful to tackling climate change, but actually actively dismantles and corrupts every other discipline it comes into contact with, we can have that conversation. "There is no such thing as "hard sciences." " -- hope you tell them that the next time you need to travel by airplane, or you're in hospital being kept alive by people who actually learned something valuable to society, taking practical steps to keep you healthy or alive... While you type your reply on a phone/computer, a device no one in a Gender Studies or English Lit department would know the first thing about creating. From what I encountered, it was a lot of very embittered people who could only dismantle and pull apart the works of great figures of the European past, works which they themselves could not create. And most were utterly boring white people consumed with guilt about being what they were.

I'm not sure i would call a guy who thinks climate change isn't linked with hunger, technology is going to solve everything and foetuses grow 20 month old a genius

@DontTreadOnTeachers 🤦🏿‍♂️😂🤣 Are you kidding me?? That's literally this woke administration to it's core... They've used us as pawns since 2015. They're doing it now with immigration.. Y'all wokeflakes are entitled bittch made narcissists.

Hey Konstantin, still using sock accounts I see. Surprised to see there's still life left in this grift. Is 'woke' even a thing any more? People will never guess that you're a gay brown man pretending to be a white-supremacist, will they?

@@johnnymartinjohansen Well, the Americans should know...they bred this bullshit in the first place

I hope so. But part of cheap clean energy. I dont know about that. Look what happend with Nikola Tesla 120 years ago.

So anyone that it not a white supremist is a member of the mafia?

@@igorfilipovic6531 Yeah, and literally nothing has happened in the world since that time...

Define woke.

@@checkoutmyyoutubepagearguing semantics, not substance. Classic

@@alexanderkriete9401 why don’t you define it then? How are you gonna use the word woke if you can’t define it?

@@hetrodoxly1203 that’s not what woke means… saying race isn’t a factor in life is like saying humanity have become Vulcans.

@@hetrodoxly1203 that’s not what woke means 🤦‍♂️

Hilarious! Laughed so hard, I Spit my whiskey out when he said that!

Exactly! Sense during a mad time. And it is mad. I don’t know why mad. But to be honest I think there are more sense out there. But the media wants to make you think the crazies outnumber the sense so that we capitulate without a fight. There are sense just like Kisin but you won’t see them in front of the camera. Drama, twisted, sick people are given the attention because that is what the media wants us to be. Sick!!!

he seems to make sense because of the incredibly reductionist and decontextualized views he holds. I think we confuse cleverness with ignorance.

@@daviddejuannavarro9423 give a specific example..?

@@daviddejuannavarro9423 I think you confuse big words with cleverness

@@daviddejuannavarro9423 Care to elaborate?

Funny how you interpret the truth as anything that aligns to your politics.

@@ally11488 Or, you know, what is demonstrable with actual facts.

@@ally11488but you can’t counter what he said.

@@alementary4065 can you give a fact? His carbon emissions comment was not true, as the USA, Germany and Russia are among the largest producers and probably always will be (they aren’t in Asia)…

@@ally11488 Or, consider this, you align your politics to what you approximate to be the truth.

True, but it doesn't matter where you live. There are poor people all around, in the UK, in the USA and in Canada where I live. Who am I to tell the people who can't afford to eat in these times that, no it doesn't matter how hard you work, we need you to starve so that less carbon gets emitted. Well I won't but our idiot in charge Justin seems perfectly willing to, and force those not currently near starvation down as well.

dude no one in the UK, USA, or Canada needs to worry about starving to death lol obesity is far more a concern for us. Obesity/ overweight rates Canada 64% USA 69% UK 63.9% I personally know people in the US who are receiving 1000 a month of food stamps and yeah there overweight to obese. I’ve done charity work in third world countries we have no clue what poor is. We think tv is a right in the US lol! This is part of the problem of the woke narrative westerners need to stop playing victims that’s why none of our kids want to work. You have to work hard to make it in life like our grandfathers did and train our children to be self sufficient instead of victims it’s the only way to beat these woke nut jobs.

@@king6dutch press that button.

@@king6dutch in this context it matters because the point is that outside of the west nobody gives a damn about climate change. They might pretend they do like china ... but all of the nonsense you westerners are doing in the climate area is for nothing and the only result will be more poverty across the globe.

As Mark Twain said, "I never let my schooling interfere with my education".

Whilst I approve of education, education includes indoctrination.

@@StillAliveAndKicking_ which isnt Education 🙂

@@patthewoodboy On the target!

Never a truer word said.

One reason I’m sure it will continue to retain its status as “Best Uni in the World”

This wasn't an expression of opinion - it was a statement of fact.

Sadly that uni is awful towards the locals.

so did I

I was going to explain why this was a logically empty speech, but then I saw your username and changed my mind. Thanks for the save!

@@evanhancock4657 But Evan, you've commented multiple times here and have yet to formulate any argument against this speech - ad hom attacks only reveal the emptiness of your own position. Try harder.

@@harpo345 false dichotomies (world hunger vs climate change... he's gotta know there's a pretty obvious link), no actual solutions except waiting for the technology to magically save us, boomer anti trans jokes, ridiculous analogy with the baby as if climate change wasn't threatening billions of lives..

I've sent it as far and wide as possible, just hope some of the "woke wank-rs" watch it.

I also get goosebumps thinking that some people actually think the answer to climate change is "we don't care, surely we'll find a way to produce even more energy and consume even more"

@@etiennechaplais1764 who said, we don`t care?

Send copies to every German Politician in the hope a few will watch it.

Just don't understand how this would give you goosebumps...? His argument is we shouldn't care about climate change because the poor only care about bettering their own lives... Like seriously..?

@@icytides you cant stop the climate change. Deal with it snowflake

Except Peterson dropped the ball on Ukraine and Putin. Crapped himself

That's right!!

this guy is way funnier though

May I ask what kind of job you do?

It is at that place above yours in every respect. Both of which are below 10 American universities.

@@Clembo huh, you are from usa, right? This would explain a lot

@@borincod nope, the USA just has the best universities it isn't even close.

​@@Clembo People of the UK, we created a monster lol

Yep.

What were they saying to him? I'm half deaf.

@@blackangellucyfire I have no idea

Those are points of information completely validated in the Union's format.

@@blackangellucyfire “Point of information.” It’s a parliamentary procedural request to clarify a point. I’m genuinely curious in what way the audience member was intending to derail the speaker’s train of thought.

@@Involent ME TOOOOO!!! cause he interrupts him when he's giving out stats... both times I believe.