Korea declares WAR against DRUGS 🚫💊💉| Korean Pizza Club | EP.9 

Is it true that Ramyun n Chill season 2 got funding? Will you start filming even if you had some differences with Danny?

I have to diagree with the "We went through a lot of mental stress in our age and we did not do drugs" argument. The people addicted to alcohol because of stress are the proof for disproving that. In the panelists teen years drugs were not accessible thus no drug addiction. But now since the drugs are easily accessible like u guys said it makes sense the mentally stressed kids find an escape with drugs. Its like old people saying in my days we did not have mental issues like the young people today. Times change and with that the circumstances too.

Personal account: I did weed with my friends in college and did not like it very much. But my friends found it amazing and thought of trying mushrooms too as both were natural drugs. Now out of our 5 friends 1 is a meth addict. It is a gateway drug for people with addictive personalities and people who want to escape because sooner or later the people start to adapt to the weed high and there will be no other way than upgrading to a harder drug for the same feeling.

At 20:20 you say people suggest there should be more help for addicts in Korea but just look at the US, (where I live): there are tons of places to get help for addiction but drug use continues unabated and helping addicts hasn't made the drug problem any better. Insurance companies and the government will even pay for rehab in many circumstances. But the fact is that many people who work with addicts will tell you that the rate of relapse is huge (i.e. even after good treatment, the majority of people relapse and start taking drugs again, and it just becomes a cycle). However, in countries with very strict (even some would say draconian) drug laws, drugs are much less of a problem. Korea needs to decide as a society if they want to accept drugs in their country and become like the US or other Western countries with a high number of addicts and a thriving drug market, or if they want to stay mostly drug free.

''- religions in Korea including shamanism'' the only wrong topic, south korea is conservative because the majority of population and politians are christians, this make a huge role in Korea society. And because of this comes the hipocrisy, people do eveything behind the scenes.

​@@marcos-ll2yr aren't alot also buddhist

@@marcos-ll2yr They probably won't do this topic because they will be scared that the religious folks coming after them. Religious nutjobs are top tier in korea.

Ooh or youth crime offenders that are doing problematic things because they know they will never be held accountable because of their age. Like a store I heard about some that stole cars and caused the death of someone in a hit and run but had no consequences because they were too young to be charged. Reminds me of Juvenile Justice

Definitely need to discuss the acceptance of alcoholism in Korea. I have never seen people that drink so much and are loud & proud about it too.

Personal account: I did weed with my friends in college and did not like it very much. But my friends found it amazing and thought of trying mushrooms too as both were natural drugs. Now out of our 5 friends 1 is a meth addict. It is a gateway drug for people with addictive personalities and people who want to escape because sooner or later the people start to adapt to the weed high and there will be no other way than upgrading to a harder drug for the same feeling.

i dont smoke often but i am somewhat of a weed-defender. i really dont like how so many people still say weed is the 'starter drug' and eventually you'll want more, heavier drugs. of course that can happen and it does to some, but if we take that as a con-argument for weed, then why the hell is alcohol legal at all? alcohol, in comparison, does much more harm and since its available literally everywhere, the amount of people that are secret alcoholics is insane. if something is illegal, people will be interested in doing it. i got curious about some drugs and wanted to try them, so i did in a safe environment with people that i trusted, thus i never had a bad experience or felt like abusing a drug. it actually made me appreciate them in a way, like a holiday. i love christmas because its special and *doesnt* happen all the time :D i like mdma in the same way. i really wish instead of trying to banish all drugs (except for the beloved alcohol of course) they would just focus more on educating the public about them, safe use, protect those who are more prone to get addicted etc. "the dose makes the poison" it would probably also be helpful if mental illness in general would be taken more seriously and people wouldnt be so scared to talk about their problems; instead of drinking or smoking them away, they might be able to actually healthily deal with them in a therapy, without being judged for it. (kinda started rambling, sorry lol)

@ajlee2168 as I said with my experience it shows how it can be a gateway drug. But in today's society we take weed as too lightly. Yes alcohol and smoking addiction is bad and that's why people are always reminded how bad it is. There are campaigns that always say the garms those stuff do. But especially in the states I have seen no such warnings when it comes to weed. I know the example I gave is not common and everyone does not have the addictive personality. What I am complaining about is the lack of warnings and informations about the "Gateway drug " nature of weed in case someone with suc addictive tendency comes in contact with weed. At the end I think each person is responsible for their own body but also believe each person should get enough warnings before they do something unnatural to their body be it taking alcohol, weed, even plastic surgery it doesn't matter. If people do those acts even after getting proper warnings then it's their problem. SIMPLE.

@@rajeevlama4737r maybe your friend was eventually going to try meth, regardless of whether he tried weed in the past or not

@sunshine333135 then maybe all the alcohol addicts were also going to be addicts anyway regardless there is a culture for it or not. Nonsense.

The drugs are spreading more tho and their population isn't that large also in the US don't alot of you die at concerning rates because of drugs? Also fighting the war on loniless is kinda funny considering relationships outside of family aren't a right but a privilege🤷🏾‍♀️

@@battarabbit8827 loneliness is due at least here in the USA because of individualism . Each sticks to his own. If u do not have a strong supportive family or family of your own ,people are suffering in silence within four walls. The only way to know whether one is no longer exists is the smell of putrefaction that comes out from the next apartment. Why is that people did not feel loneliness during WWII war? Because they were united together , dropping their differences for one ultimate goal, rid of the war and evil who caused it. Now, we live under peace , yet everyone is separated . Nobody cares about anybody else, hence comes the loneliness, which leads to depression, which rollercoasters to escapism- drugs and alcohol.

@@likhwezititus America has been fighting a war on drugs for almost 60 years. Nothing has changed, it doesn’t work. So we can give advice to countries trying to take the same route. Korea will end up with their jails overcrowded with non-violent, low level (mostly weed) drug user. While the murderers, rapists and thieves get out on bail or get early release due to jail overcrowding. You have to remedy the cause or reason why people are turning to drugs. Drug use is just a symptom of a greater problem.

​@@kimleemoon ^This!!!!

@@likhwezititus💯💯💯💯

Agreeeeee ❤

Absolutely

This is perfectly well said and should be one of the top comments. Rather than trying to solve the actual issues such as poverty, mental health, and exploitation, politicians would rather take the easy way out and be "Tough on Drugs". There is also hypocrisy in allowing and regulating alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription drugs while punishing "softer drugs" such as cannabis.

i wish i could pin your comment, perfectly said.

I'm an American and I disagree. We have legal fire arms and varying access to illegal and legal marijuana. We have more mass shootings than any other developed country and because of that we are able to study mass murderers, studies are showing many have had some use of marijuana and seperated studies on on marijuana use in the USA show that modern marijuana is much more potent in concentration than during the 60's etc when it was popular and there were moves for it . Also marijuana use has been shown to cause schizophrenic breakdowns in people which makes the mass shooters make sense, paranoid, schizophrenic breakdowns. I am 100% against marijuana and approve of Singapore and Korea's push against it.

I think the reason ppl don't see alcohol and tobacco as drugs is because they're regulated

@@likhwezititus they’re used to self-medicate and self-soothe just like illegal drugs and can be just as addictive.

​@@kimleemoon yes and they can both kill a person

@@kimleemoon yes I'm aware of tht but because it's deemed harder to get in some places they dont consider it a real threat especially if it's ingrained in culture. It's like tht sentiment of "this has been around for a while it hasn't done that much damage" whereas meth and coke are things that have always since the beginning considered bad which they are, i honestly don't understand why ppl jump to the chance to defend so much.

@@TabeaSerenety Google is your friend😊

I agree with you - but after taking a minute to think about it... how can you blame the guy? He's not the only one "doing it." All the panelists are doing it. **EDIT** - 37:00 - okay. Well, good. I’ll preface my statements by saying that I’m glad, at least ONE, of the panelists is being realistic about the Korean perspective on drug usage in general. But, she did also say that she “grew up in America (middle/high school) - so, it does make sense that she would try to be truthful about (really) HOW much of a different mindset you can have, growing up in Korea, or the West. But, you have to remember that they all live in Korea, and live MUCH different lives than we do. As a Korean, born in America, I dealt with this EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING (lack) of sympathy exhibited by not only David, but also every. single. cohost. The conversation that they are having literally sounds like what my parents would say. I understand their perspective in some regard, but, my biggest issue with the majority of Korean natives is the general "stance" on weed - that it's the "devil's lettuce." Like goddamn - in 2023, you can hear it in everyones' voices on this (wannabe progressive, yet clearly conservative - as exemplified by this episode), specific, show! "We went through all these trials and tribulations when we were growing up in Korea... yet we never turned to weed. I think every single one of the individuals on this panel (the "regulars"), have lived in America for some part of their life - so they, at least, have SOME understanding of how different the culture, people, and really, everything is so different. If we had 4 Koreans that had NEVER been to, more or less, LIVED, in America, the (deeply rooted and embedded) conservative nature of 99% of Koreans would be so blatant. I say all that to point out that, even with their experience, each one of the "regulars" are so "against" weed. The girl on the very left even said that she "doesn't think that weed should be legalized, even for MEDICINAL purposes." And they are "trying to bring a slice of Korean culture to America" (or w.e their slogan is). I don't mean to shame them, but they are being extremely two-faced to act like they "understand" Western culture, but still have 0 tolerance/sympathy for people that do ANY drugs - even weed. You couldn't pay any of them to admit that they've smoked weed in America (if they have - they would never do it). It's like admitting you're a meth addict in Korea. So unfortunate. And I'll end with this... back to your comment (lol): everything I discussed above, David embodies (for good or for worse - again, I don't blame him, most of us would be the same way if we were in his shoes). However, I just could not believe he made this statement regarding meth: (and I LITERALLY quote - somewhere around the middle of the podcast, I don't have the EXACT words, but this is essentially what he said): David: "Koreans (we) - whenever we do something, why do we always have to do 'SO MUCH' of it? It's like we can't just stick with weed, we HAVE to go to meth and fentanyl... I was once exposed to meth, but I've never even thought about doing it." (one of the girls): "David, when were you exposed to meth?!" David: "On 'Breaking Bad', the TV Show - you guys know what it is..." (girls): "OHHHHHHHHHHHH... yeah,....." ---- David (literally) just said his "first exposure" to meth was WATCHING BREAKING BAD????? Like come on man. My gripe with this show is that they genuinely think they represent "Western Koreans", or, "Koreans that have lived in the U.S. for a long time, so they must have some Western values..." David needs to get a legitimately KOREAN-AMERICAN Co-Host (if he can take enough of an ego-hit to do so), so that he or she can ACTUALLY talk facts. Not discuss such an important topic as the rise of the use of drugs in Korea, from this (twisted, unrealistic, egotistical) mindframe.... *facepalm

Fi dom things

Well that seemed to be a lack of experience for the other guest as well, at 10:38, who said weed is not addictive. I had a lifetime of weed use with different people & it's just as addictive as a cigarette or more by definition. Their encounters with street drugs seem to be different if at all.

America’s war on drugs didn’t work because it has a long ass border with cartel ridden Mexico and too much land. Singapore has proven you can stop them. I can’t stand young Korean’s obsession with becoming more like America.

A war on drugs is the only sane solution. The West is dying because of drugs and crime.

Humans are born with an addictive nature maybe from when they get weaned by their mothers. The sky is the limit, from everything we try & come into contact with no matter how harmless it seems to our brains

100%. These people are not subject matter experts on this topic so I don't understand why we should care about their anecdotal opinion.

Experts not from Korea too. Because Koreans have a bias against safe substances like weed

@@acidj4zz Likewise, why tf would I care about YOUR anecdotal opinion? If you don't like it, GTFO right? Everybody has an opinion, and an agenda. Their channel, they can say what they want. Not your channel? STFU or move on.

LMAO. As if every YT podcaster is going to invite an "expert" every time they do a podcast like this? Dream on. Besides, would it matter? The medical community has been telling people to lay off the hard drugs for years - did people listen? Doctors and policy experts also talked long and hard about COVID and vaccination. Would you like me to recount how well that went down in some countries? They are having a discussion like many are having among their group of friends. They never said they are subject matter experts or policy makers. Are just upset that your views are not being promoted and expressed. Well guess what? Even among the medical community and policy makers, you will find professionals on opposite sides of the issue. So how now, brown cow?

this podcast is about their personal opinions

Totally agreeing with you. I also think that it is great that Korean authorities are taking charge about drugs, but alcoholism is a problem they choose to not pay attention to.

Chicago is getting there lol

@@ejtrujillo So sad to know this, another great city. I’m a fan of the older American cities: San Francisco, Chicago, NY, Boston, New Orleans (not the party scene, but the historical buildings and traditions).

I don't see stuff like that I see it on the news

Agree 100%. All big US cities are dying.

I also had to turn it off at this point. This panel sucks. Laughing at someone's mental health state is such bad taste. I'm unsubscribing.

sometimes i feel like they can speak objectively about koreas outdated views, standards etc. but then they say shit like this with no awareness and i realize they still hold onto these, sometimes ignorant and closeminded views themselves. not enough for me to unsubscribe but definitely worth bringing to their attention.

All the research about the effects of Covid are not yet published or not completed. There's a working theory that Covid sufferers experienced brain damage specifically in the amygdala, the portion of the brain dealing with impulse control, which of course for people with addictive tendencies is already a dangerous area. I also thought it was crass to laugh at that point in the conversation, but it will take decades to know all the effects Covid caused on the body.

Aye bro this podcast sound like political and social propaganda boy we sure do have a lot of these type these days.

I have also unsubbed. They keep deleting my posts. They can't seem to handle open discussion.

Porn is pretty harmful on all sides tho. However Korea does have its ways around that

the porn industry is disgusting and it must remain banned. all it does is exploit women

Korea is right to ban porn. It's every bit as harmful as drugs. I was able to stop porn since Dec of last year. Best thing that I ever did. What it does to kids is hard to imagine. In Newsweek, there was an article about how kids were up till 200a looking at porn. Other kids sexually assaulted kids at school. It must be banned. If adults want to "opt in" for porn, that's a discussion worth having, but kids must be protected and access reduced.

And they kept referring to adhd meds as METH

How did you become addicted?

I started clubbing in Manhattan when I turned fifteen (1989). Manhattan was a different beast back then compared to now.

I got introduced to drugs while clubbing and making friends in the club scene.

@@lyonnechoi9674 oh sounds common 🤔

Education on drugs has never really worked also "safe access" on meth? Drug users give the dealers an incentive to keep running them through the cou try and it eventually gets to the wrong hands. When you take drugs ppl always assume it's only on you, no it impacts EVERYONE around you.

@@likhwezititus what are you talking about? just like any other drug/medication, they need to handle these drugs the same way. drug dealers are the ones with the least clean drugs, if it was regulated we'd already see a change for the better because people consume 'clean drugs' instead of dangerous laced shit. it works with every drug if done correctly. drugs arent evil, what do you mean it 'impacts everyone around you'? unless you're talking about addiction, no, it doesnt. and if we had better education on these drugs, people with an addiction would also have an easier time finding help and recovering. if you're just talking about consuming drugs, how does that impact anyone but yourself?

No, the West is dying because they aren't taking the gloves off in the drug war. We are drowning in drug addiction here in the West.

So your solution is to legalize all hard drugs? No country on earth does that.

Well alcohol is bad enough. No need to add to that.

@@icingcake i guess we should ban alcohol then instead of solving the actual problem. good comment bro.

@@ajlee2168 Here’s a thought - you can solve the problem without adding to it.

A war on drugs is the only sane approach. America and the West is drowning in drug addiction.

This right here!

Social media is also free and addictive lol

that might just be your experience tho. obviously not everyone in western countries do drugs even though we're surrounded by it, but i think its ignorant to think that things like peer pressure as well as celebrities glamourising drugs in their music and film (in a way that doesnt happen in korea bc they all get cancelled) dont play a huge part. obviously substance abuse is strongly linked with stress and mental health issues, however the older generations in korea lived through the korean war and extreme poverty but never turned to hardcore drugs similar to meth and fentanyl, so the rise of it is most likely due to the influence of western media and attitudes around it that are more lax. that being said i dont think its a co-incidence that drug dealers target students as they know theyre more prone to addiction due to the immense amount of stress they're under, and if this problem isnt dealt with properly, the combination of more lax western attitudes towards drugs and the stress students are under could lead to a big addiction problem amongtst students.

But the US actually made huge progress against tobacco so they can when they want...

@@HereDiianas tobacco in no way shape or form is on the level of any of hard drug that doesn’t make any sense those are not equivalent. And and every teenager has a vape so there still smoking tobacco, all that drug free propaganda failed

thanks to China 33:05 they can make anything MADE IN CHINA

Agree. There's a lot of " I heard...." on this episode. Most of the time, that's ok. But with a topic like this, more knowledge and actual facts are needed

Exactly! They laughed it off but then in the next breath gave examples of its actual existence. I was baffled that they didn't see that they were making the case for post pandemic depression.

Everyone I know has said weed is a gateway drug. Cops too.

i feel like the most important thing for keeping kids away from substances is fostering healthy safe environments for them … dont give them a reason to escape through addiction and they wont choose that over a fulfilling loving life, home, & future 😮‍💨

@@kona3881 totally agree!!

Yes divorce and children custody is something that is very confusing to me, so some exploration/explanation would be cool.

Wrong. The US is dying because of their weak willed war on drugs and de facto drug legalization. Korea is on the right path. India doesn't allow drugs either.

Yeah, many of these naive zoomers fail to see the real dangers of a drug economy - they are too busy defending it to justify themselves using it.

Yeah this won't work out lol. Drugs cause lots of problems but drug wars exacerbate them. If you want an example just look at the US. People seem to think these drugs are new. They are not. Drug use in the US has climbed despite the drug war. This isn't because they didn't crack down hard enough and it's not because the drugs are new. Most illegal drugs have existed for centuries. The real issue is the social changes and political decisions.

That makes more sense

This is true.

That's not possible and never has been possible. The idea that these countries "don't have drugs" is a myth. The main reason the US has issues with drugs isn't because they didn't crack down hard enough, it's because they constantly immiserate and impoverish their population. SK did alright off the back of super rapid industrialization and development. But that's slowing down now and the poverty and inequality is catching up. If it continues they'll be in the same place as the US.