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They didn’t just adopt them out separately. They place each twin in very different environments. One in a wealthy home. One in a poor home. They wanted to see how “the same person” would develop in each environment. It was FKD UP.
the saddest part for me is seeing the 2 teenage boys got their lives turned around for the worst because 2 twin sisters are "fighting" with each other. it's so unfair
They literally break in to a room with guns and threatened a woman with murder they ruined their own life and it was probably already ruined or would ruin at something else
@@leinasworld9454 so everything is justified when they are scard for their lives and "just kids" (never an excuse.)? Would rape be justified for it, murder, torture? Would everything be fine because they aree scared for their lifes? You know this is bullshit. On top of that, what for scared for their lifes, they werent even threatend, what are you talking about?! Its not a "kill her or i will kill you" situation. She hit her car, not them, not threatening them, nothing.
@@undyusami1525you sound so incredibly ignorant they were two young boys who’s minds aren’t even developed who was scared of this woman, they never intended on going to kill or rape sunny or the roommate so why are you comparing rape to this situation, you must be hard of hearing so i guess you missed the part it was said gina told these boys she just wanted her stuff and when they got there said she wanted to kill her sister and started acting psychotic and manipulative,on top of all that gina was and still is very manipulative. Im not excusing them tying up the girls and putting a gun to their head or anything else but don’t be ignorant
@@undyusami1525except this isn’t a case of followed through murder or rape. they were already struggling teens who didn’t have active role models, were misled, lied to, & manipulated by gina. even if gina objectively didn’t pose a physical threat to them in the car, you don’t know what they were thinking in the moment. they were in a new area with someone they didn’t know, probably didn’t have much or any money, & were just told that instead of just helping gina get stuff from her sister, she wanted them to kill her. they didn’t know if she had any other weapons in the car, or if she had anyone else she could call for back up. any 15 or 16 year old is going to be shocked, scared, & not know what to do in that situation. should they have been punished for the role they played, yes. i think the one kid’s sentence makes much more sense than 14 years tho. that’s nearly as much as gina got, who actually came up with the plan & orchestrated it, enlisted two KIDS to do her dirty work, & drove there. ADULTS have gotten less prison time than 14 years for rape
Both parents; the dad dropped his 5 year old with her because he’d rather make a new family than bring his child with him. No matter how horrible she is (very) someone else still put one of those children in her care and seemingly never checked in on either of his daughters ever again
The mother's favoritism over the twins is just so infuriating. She failed her children before and she's still fails them even after the case by continuing to play favorites. 🙄
I'm a twin, and my mom always hated me. It did have a effect on my life, but I stayed as much as she allowed to keep my twin and 2 little sisters safe. It was a different time back then. I tried to tell. But then I was just shipped off again for being manipulative and a problem. You just learn to shut up. What doesn't kill you only makes you crazy right? But I'd never kill my twin. Mom ehhh debatable. A girl can dream.
14 years for archie is insane I agree but people did get hurt,the trauma sunny's roommate got because what they did/were manipulated into doing is huge,any woman hearing what happened felt shivers
The competitiveness and sheer disdain the twins had for each other is probably born from them having to fend for themselves as children and having to fight each other over food!
Exactly my thoughts. Never knew this girl before, now you’re fighting her over a couple eggs to not starve to death. That would lead anyone to dislike the person in the house with them
I agree. The fact they didn't spend the first 5 years together and then got left in a situation where they were in competition for survival was probably the whole reason for their relationship being how it is. I'm sure if they had been always raised together by one parent up to 5 they'd have faced that challenge together rather than having to fight. I also assume the twin who had been with the mother was already very neglected when the other joined them.
respectfully it does NOT justify any part of this case, my brother and I lived in a similar environment plus physical and sexual abuse and while we did get into serious physical fights we are still normal people. simply put sunny's twin is a failure, she is a bad person who should have received harsher sentencing
The two boys should have just gotten something closer to rehabilitation. Putting them in prison at such a young age for something they didn’t want to do in the first place, is just going to turn them into actual lifelong criminals. 1-3 years with community service and therapy would have been far more useful to make the world a better place.
Especially Archie's sentence made me really sad. He was 15-16? Got coerced into committing something he didn't want to and otherwise wouldn't had done yet they gave him 14 years. Thus is insane and possibly due to his race
My mom is an identical twin, she said people always compared and favored one over the other. As my mother, she went out of the way to never compare and favor me and my siblings.
I'm a twin and was treated the same. Hence I wouldn't want twins. Even if you don't favouritise or compare, the world always does. They say things like, so whose the more clever twin. They compare success and looks. Even though we're two separate people. We get treated like we are one.
Isn't Sunny's 180 REALLY suspicious during the trial? She suddenly had her mother, bf, etc all turn against her after being victim to a crime and had the Korean community side with her sister. I feel like she was being heavily pressured and maybe even threatened to change her tune in some way. This whole family situation is really fucked up and confusing.
It may have been that many people from the community and the mother expected Sunny to forgive Gina. And possibly speak up for her so Gina doesn’t get a long sentence. When Sunny didn’t agree with them because not only did her sister try to kill her(!) but also she and her sister have been huge rivals pretty much since birth. I can imagine she had very, very little empathy for Gina (understandably). I don’t trust or put any faith in their mother’s judgement or actions as she is a deplorable human being. It’s possible the bf and Sunny’s relationship was never that solid really, and based on the community pressure he thought it best to stand against her and walk away. This is just my thoughts on it.
The Korean community are very religious. Almost all the Korean American families that I know go to church every Sunday. I think they wanted Sunny to forgive her sister. Her mom probably felt bad when Gina called her out on being bias, so she's trying to act like a good mom and support the other one since she's the one being convicted. All in all, I personally think they are all messed up. I only felt sorry for the boys if it's true that they were dragged into it.
not only is the Korean community religious, they have their age hierarchy, just like Stephanie said. Just from being born 5 minutes early, Sunny is the oldest. Although that earns her some respect, that also means she has to take care of, and put up with Gina’s behavior because “she’s younger and she doesn’t know better.” So they probably also expected Sunny to be lenient and forgiving for being the oldest
Systemic racism is the worst. Why was Archie serving 14 years in prison for being a kid who was manipulated after being failed by his family and everybody around him? I really hope he is doing well. If there is a crowdfund for him I would love to donate to it
according to what we can gather of gina’s personality in this case, i think she would’ve emotionally manipulated her mother to take her side. Especially with her break up with her partner, the mum would’ve been able to relate to much of the things gina felt towards her twin- feeling left behind, betrayed ect. surging his, i believe gina would’ve been able to twist her mothers favour out of pity and relation. Again, as the other is also emotionally vulnerable and seems to have such a disconnect from her kids (demonstrated through her neglect) it would be easy for her to switch so quickly and be swayed so easily from favouring one of the twins to immediately switching to become so cold
Not baffling at all. Being Asian raised in a traditional Asian family, the child does not get to speak out against the family, even if there was CA or SA. They will blame the victim for bringing public attention to something they’d rather resolve privately. The letters sent in by other asian families blaming western media for sensationalizing the case says it all. Esp as a girl, you bow your head, take the abuse and stay quiet. Work hard and forget it ever happened. Bc that’s exactly how I grew up. And what happened when I spoke out. Public image is very important in traditional asian families.
If you’ve never read up on narcissistic abuse triangles I would recommend it. Given how she acted when they were younger the mother is almost certainly a narcissist. It’s not going to make sense; it’s just not how regular people operate.
@@bellewalters2245I think this became even stronger after Gina got that sort of psychology degree. We always wish and think that people in the mental health and overall medical field are good people. But the truth is, there will always be those that will use their knowledge to their advantage, not necessarily the good kind.
I'm 20 minutes in and just wanted to give my take so far. As a twin who didn't know I had a twin until I was 13, it did nothing to prevent me from forming an inseparable bond with my sister. We grew up with very different lives - I was raised alone with my father in one country while she was with our mother in another country. We both grew into decent people separately and endured separate hardships but when we found out about each other we were immediately inseparable. The part where Steph talks about the separated twins feeling like they're missing something is accurate, but it's a very subtle feeling that I really struggled to understand until the feeling actually went away. I think the best way to describe it is disorienting, like the life you're living isn't right. But at that point when that's all you've ever felt it's hard to put your finger on it.
@@eybisborjasvargas6889 Hi, no worries I don't mind the questions haha. My mother moved back to her home country to live with my grandparents (/her parents) after the divorce because she didn't have a place to stay and had no job - she'd originally moved to Canada (where i was raised) to live with my dad but obviously that didn't go very well. So I had to stay here with my dad while my sister moved with my mother over there.
Gina earning a behavioral health degree is scary. She will use that degree to manipulate people as she was doing already without any professional training.
I was a Psychology student for 9 years, so I can attest that it doesn't work that way. In a nutshell, we're taught the history, theories & learn about traits of various mental illnesses. We learn about basic facial expressions that everyone recognises when someone is happy, sad, or angry etc. In Neuroscience (a huge branch of Psychology), we're taught the physiological aspects of the neural system. For example, how neurons communicate & release neurotransmitters. This in turn, contributes to behaviour, emotions &/or cognitive functions. My point is we look at Psychology mostly from a scientific point of view. It's shocking that 200 people liked your comment & agree, even though there's no evidence that we're taught to manipulate people. That's how misinformation spreads so easily, which leads to misconceptions. Manipulation simply comes down to personality traits, which can be used for good or evil. But it's mostly for bad reasons, so it's considered a bad or negative trait. Your environment & those around you, can teach or mould you into becoming manipulative too. In that case, I highly advise the person to leave that group before they become just like them. Nobody likes manipulative people, so they're often miserable people. IMO, I think it may stem from narcissism, believing you're above the law &/or you do it for fraudulent purposes. Some people are either born evil, or are nurtured into becoming evil due to their environment, their upbringing &/or the kind of people they're surrounded by. You are who you hang with, they say & it's often true. It has nothing to do with learning Psychology. The only job I can think of where you're trained to manipulate, is if you work for the likes of Intelligence, or even as a police undercover. Some cops use very dirty methods to catch suspects. I looked into a career in Intelligence & came across that information from people who claimed that Intelligence gets the best & turns them into liars & manipulators. This is why I no longer want to work for them. I don't want to become a dishonest person. But I also recall someone from Intelligence warning me to not believe someone who doesn't want you to work there, just because they're jealous or have an ulterior motive. Problem is, there's truth behind what those people said. As an undercover, you have to lie about who you are of course. I'm ok with that if it's required to arrest someone. But to be trained as a professional liar & manipulator full-time & befriend dangerous criminals, it goes against who I am. However, I also heard that Intelligence picks out people who are naturally manipulative & use them for appropriate assignments. They most likely get extra training on top of it. But man, I wouldn't exactly take it as a compliment if I was selected!😂 I hope people now understand that Psychology doesn't teach you to manipulate people. Even less so for Behavioural Health, which as the name suggests, focuses on mental health & how it affects your behaviour. It's disturbing to see how many people are under the same impression when it's completely untrue. I hope this comment will properly educate people about Psychology.
I think aitran is saying that the Psychology diploma itself doesn't teach you how to manipulate people. Rather it's the person aiming for the Psychology degree who wants to learn how to manipulate people using it for that purpose, and they are likely gonna do it with or without the degree anyways, unless they wanna change ofc. TL;DR: It's not the tool (Psychology degree) it's the user.
@@legends51.wordpress oh please. Jt wasn't saying anyone who studies Psych is using to manipulate people. But *Gina* will. She's already a natural at it, now she can take the theory and put it into practice to mess with the minds of others
I'm an identical twin but we grew up together. We did well in school and were put in different classes, so teachers would not be confused. We both got 99% in the national collegiate entrance exams, though her scores were higher. We got scholarships from different universities. But jealousy is a feeling I never felt. We took very different courses. Now, that we are old, we try our best to help/ comfort each other. I'm now a widow while her husband is still alive. She comforted me during that time. So, I don't understand why you would kill your twin. This is very sad.
my older sister hated me throughout many years. I can say with confidence that whether siblings hate each other or not depends on the parents. han sisters' mother rotted their relationship. my parents created the environment that made my sister hate me. your parents probably did a good job raising you both :)
I’m a twin and can 110% say that after sharing a womb with someone for 9 months, it would be irrevocably damaging to separate twins for 5 years then reunite them. I certainly don’t think it would turn me homicidal, but it would be deeply epigenetically and emotionally damaging to the parties involved.
As someone in the same position, I 100% agree with you. I'd be a fundamentally different person without my twin even for just those few years. Parent trap sounds like the premise for a horror movie now, doesn't it...
I wonder if it is different for fraternal twins. But I still shared a womb with my twin brother and grew up alongside him, so maybe it would be different without him after spending 9 months in the womb, even if we were in different sacs. I never considered that
Every single parent failed their child here. This is so sad. BPD is no joke, and it's 100% a response to trauma, almost always from a bad family life. I feel so bad for everyone involved.
BPD comes from perception of trauma. Like me, normal life changes caused me to develope it. Yes, moving to another country can be very difficult at the age it happened to me. Still I had loving parents who cared for me and did their best to care for me. Nothing objectively traumatic ever happened but I reacted as if it did. So I developed BPD. I was diagnosed at 28 during a several week stay at a mental hospital. I was always a very sensitive child with problems, I was also diagnosed with ADHD at 40 which probably greatly contributed to everything that happened later.
It’s also messed up that it seems like there mom Ms.Han can only love one of her kids at a time, like for her to love one she has to ignore and neglect the other. That’s terrible
@@zeinaabdullah1000 both are messed up but the the mom is actively playing favorites and is still in their lives so it might hurt more since they are closer to her then him
@zeinaabdullah1000 apparently continued on with his life like none of them existed. Further contributing to the abandonment issues between them like "let's compete for mommy's attention so she won't abandon us completely too"
I was so confused in the first 10 mins watching Stephanie, then I heard the husband asking questions that I wanna ask lol. I feel you bro. It is confusing. 😂😂
@@AyanneCZ I think it's because the contacts are a greyish-white kind of blue which makes her look unsettling maybe a darker one would bring more of a natural tone? That's just my opinion tho.
Their mom had a huge influence on their success. When they lived with their mom, both were valedictorean. When mom left n favoured Sunny, she was successful. Now that mom favours Gina, Gina is successful.
As a mother of twins myself, I 100% believe their futures were dependent on how their mother made them fend for themselves. I could never even think about putting my boys in that situation.
I thought of the same thing too they had been competing since childhood coz of their mom leaving them to survive on their own ,I do not think think it has anything to do with the twin theory
tbh i think this proves that it is nature and not nurture , my sibling and I seem to have grown up in a possibly worse environment and yet we are normal
@@stacybrenda6205 yes I agree, I don’t think them being twins has anything to do with it I think them being siblings and having to raise themselves played such a big part as well as the mother choosing favorites
I’m a twin and my whole life until age 50, I have shared EVERYTHING With my twin sister ( I’m a girl too ), both mentally supporting her and financially supporting her ( bought her a house,3 cars, designer clothes, took her on holidays Inc a round the world trip etc ). She was a nurse and I was a police officer but the moment she got pregnant, she gave up her career and went on government benefits. So I would pay for everything for her . I didn’t notice but friends of ours since we were 7 have now said that she always played the victim and I her rescuer and she has exploited this throughout her life. Anyway, 4 years ago she borrowed a 4 piece jewellery set ( necklace, earrings, ring and bracelet ) which was very sentimental to me. I asked for her to return it and she did but the bracelet was missing. I very calmly asked where the bracelet was and she denied ever having it ( I have since been given a picture taken two weeks prior to me asking for it back and In the photograph, she is wearing my bracelet ). She became very defensive straight away and I said that maybe she had lost it or dropped it on the way to my house and she started shouting and screaming and accusing me of calling her a thief ( I didn’t ), She then left my house with no shoes on such was her rush to leave and she left my neice and nephew behind and didn’t pick them up for two days even though they were only supposed to stay for a few hours. Since then, despite me reaching out to her, she hasn’t spoken a word to me. She got married and uninvited me and my two children who were to be bridesmaid and usher , yet my 3 brothers attended. It’s crushed me. Then just prior to last Christmas, I found out that I had mouth cancer and my brother asked if he could tell her. I agreed and her reply to my brother was that she must go to the dentist and get herself checked out . She has not once called me or messaged me about it or to ask me how I am. I’ve been through 4 years of hell as I’ve been so depressed and devastated by her. However, I now realise that when I look back, she only ever visited me when she wanted something whether it be financially or emotionally or support mentally. I have finally reached a point where I can now say without crying that I no longer have a twin sister. She has confided in a mutual friend that she has always felt like she was playing second fiddle to me our whole lives and because of her feeling this way, she never wants anything to do with me ever again. Incidentally, this all happened not long after she met her boyfriend now husband and it does make me wonder if she will come running back to me if they ever split up, which is a possibility because they don’t trust each other as I was fielding confidential phone calls from them both and neither of them know that the other has also confided in me. So it appears that it’s down to simple jealousy. There’s a professor who has studied twins and there are a high % of twins who reach middle age and the relationship totally breaks down, never to be rekindled again and it’s down to jealousy.
Wow that's very sad, it happens alot with brother and sister , not necessarily twins but they only come around when they need or want something and that's not cool. Don't waste you time, you tears. Your energy on people that doesn't deserve, just remember, that when you can't do anything about it let it go, don't hold the grudge.
@@juniorr2646same with with my mom and her sister they had also a neglectful childhood and depended on each other . Actually my aunt depended on my mom. I remember all my childhood my mom always helped my aunt, and when my mom wanted to help me she lost it, and treated me like an enemy. it was crazy bc my aunt threw my mom in jail before when they had a fight that she started .
I’m an identical twin and I love my sister but jealousy did come up as we were growing up. Looking back part of it was because there was a level of neglect at home but also it’s hard to not get caught up on when people would compare me and my sister. It never got to the point of hurting each other tho.
I have a twin brother.. and when we were teenagers, we stood up for and protected each other, however, we also fought occasionally and had bitter competitive rivalries that would sometimes escalate into physical violence. Then one day when we were in our mid 20s(we lived with each other for about 27 years), we just stopped arguing and fighting pretty much cold turkey. We sort of came to this mutual epiphany that this was really dumb. I can even still remember the last argument we ever had. It was followed by an apology to each other and a hug and that was pretty much it. We're both 50 now and have nothing but love and support for each other.
me and my sister is like this. (not twins but fifteen months apart, and look exactly alike that teachers confuse us with each other). As soon as we leave the house, our relationship improved almost immediately. hm, maybe its' true what they say, familiarity breeds contempt? or maybe it's that the competitiveness set out by parents, or the limited resources we had growing up caused the resentment?
I’m a twin. 😊 My sis and I always apologized before we went to bed at night. Even if we were both still mad. 😊 We know whatever it is doesn’t really matter. ❤
@@mhiadollxx8888 When you grew up on the streets... you never snitch, just saying. That was not an option for the boys. They are the real victims by the justice department.
I don't know what it is with you Stephanie, but your voice is making me so productive and switches something on in my brain. I can listen to your videos, while working on my projects, WHILE ACTUALLY BEING MINDFUL of the story you present. Plus, your regural schedule and an unshaken moral compass makes me want to actually work harder for myself and others. Thank you for that ❤❤❤
As a therapist, I have seen siblings, not even twins, go through this pattern. When I worked at a methadone clinic, we have siblings who when one was doing well, the other was not. Then there would be a switch as to whom was doing well.
@@ivyho9072 Brother and sister. One would get clean and stay that way for awhile and the other would start using. Then they would switch as to whom was using versus not. There was never a time when both were clean or both were using.
This is currently happening I feel like between my sister and I. My mother often compared me to her saying things like “why can’t you just be like your sister!” She was always the perfect one and I was the black sheep. Now I’m clean, getting my life on track, starting a family and her life is falling apart. She’s been emotionally cheating on her husband, she’s been drinking more and more heavily, and they are now getting a divorce. Mom still wants to try and justify my sister’s actions sometimes but when I point out that she left her husband for the same type of actions, she has no choice but to try and hold her as accountable for her actions. The only thing that seemed to change was I took accountability and she lost it. It is strange how it seems like the roles in our family switched over the course of just a year
@@debcevansautistic family dynamics be like this. One has a debilitating that hinders their potential and the other is gifted with adhd both struggle but more than the other. Its a weird phenomena
Stephanie please do a video on the attack on the army public school in peshawar, Pakistan in 2014. A school was attacked by armed terrorists which ended in the killing of 150 children and leaving over 100 injured. it shook the nation and is to this day a horrific memory that every Pakistani runs away from but it deserves recognition. the parents never got justice. they can never get their children back. there's a lot of politics involved as aps stands for army public school and most of the students in attendance came from military backgrounds, this is believed to a reason as to why this school in particular was targeted.
The title sounds like something from a movie. Taking over your twins identity??? The concept is so scary. Imagine someone you've spent your whole life, and been compared to suddenly taking over YOUR identity.
@@Yimika777this movie is one of my faves… not only the story, but the actress absolutely killed it. I would love to see behind the scenes and how they put it all together. She played the 7 roles so amazingly. And I won’t give the story away but finding out what really happened…eek!
I wonder if Gina gaslit Sunny into changing her stance during the trial. Considering Gina was able to convince two underage strangers to threaten her sister and later able to convince a total stranger from another country to send her money. Not to mention the mother definitely didn't help Sunny's state of mind by getting people from their community to rally behind the person who tried to harm her. It's no surprise Sunny state of mind spiraled.
To be honest with you, it's not really that hard for a woman to manipulate a teenage boy. They're just raging bundles of hormones without the experience and wisdom to reign it in.
My cousins are twins and they're so different. Married vs single. Different careers. Living in different countries. Opposites personality-wise. One thing remains the same, they're very close to each other and are very connected mentally to each other. Nature vs nurture doesn't fully cover the diverse nature of twins and the different nuances.
Thisss, my sister and I are super close and were raised to love and treasure eachother since others dont have that blessing. Your cousins’ relationship sounds so wholesome
I have twin cousins. Have, live yhe same lifestyle. Other than they are not smart and are okay with living below minimum wage jobs and mooch off their rich younger brothers they are almost the same. No competitiveness and hates their dad my uncle but loves their mom cause she's kind and doesn't have favoritism with her kids and grandkids.
Same! I have 2 friends who are identical twins and live in different countries doing conpletely different things and yet call each other daily to catch up
Both girls were failed by both of their parents. One got abandoned by their dad while the other didn’t know him, and then they both got abandoned and neglected by their mom. That’s so much trauma they went through at such an early age. It definitely played a part in this.
And don’t forget their mother having loads of random men pop up in their lives, some of which they had to hide behind the couch from. Not exactly the most stable or wholesome example to be setting for your daughters.
Imagine finding out suddenly as an immature child, there's another one of you. How insecure must that have made the both of them. From that point on they felt they had to compete for the validity of their own existence.
I’m a fraternal twin and my sister and i get along super well, never fight and no rivalry. I’d venture to say family wasnt a good influence in that either. It’s a shame
I grew up with a pair of twins that HATED each other. We used to be afraid of them when we were little because they always, ALWAYS ended up beating the crap out of each other. To this day I don't think either one has anything to do with the other
This is a crazy story, but I'm more impressed with the delivery. Really fascinating how you wove in tangential facts and spoke the words with the appropriate emotions.
I’m an identical twin. Me and my sister shared some glaring personality differences when we were young and now we are so alike yet so different. we have completely different fashion, different tones, different types, and some glaring religious differences. we’d fight some as teens but now are extremely close, and it’s eerie. we live across the country from one another. i found an obscure brand of Mexican candy that i liked, and for some reason i got obsessed with them and would eat it nonstop. one day while i was eating them i snapped a picture of the candy bag to my sister. she snapped me back and to me my surprise she was eating the same exact obscure brand of candy. she said she was obsessed with eating them for some reason. it was so creepy and we acknowledge how, despite living across the country, random parts of our life will overlap. we also say the same things at the same time without planning it; we hate when this happens but my friends and family think it’s so entertaining. being identical is definitely a unique experience. we were also exposed to “studies” as children.
As a 22-year-old identical twin myself, I have never imagined hurting my sister. This is so sickening to watch. My twin sister and I used to live apart for many years, but whenever we reunited, we would be overjoyed and feel complete once more. I can't imagine ever hurting my soulmate and best friend.
Imagine involving children in your crimes. Coming from a 16 year old thats pathetic as hell and I am so sorry for the two, i hope they get to live a good life. She took advantage of them and they were just in a bad spot :c I wish the best for them and i HATTTEE THAT GIRL
When Stephanie states the trigger warnings and says"... take care of yourself, see you in the next one." I'm like: All your topics are triggers but we can't help but tune in! wdym? 😆 I just love you so much, you are my mental health
fr! the stories are so horrible but i feel like Stephanie explains it in a way where it just feels edjucating and i appreicate that she always shines light on the victims its important to remeber them and i realaly love that about her!
I really appreciate the warnings because i have such bad ptsd & so many things trigger me, so i dont watch those episodes when im doing really bad. I do always go back to them all though even when it triggers me horribly lol
I’m an identical twin, I think that nurture comes more into play than nature. The reason why I think this is because me and my sister, although having the same genetics completely different people and fight on a regular basis. I love your videos and you make me so happy.
my brothers got triplets, one boy. two girls. I just spent the weekend with them. they are only 4, but I am SURE their lives would be HEAVILY different if they had been separated at birth. They do everything together and are SO in tune with each others emotions.
Thank you Stephanie for continuing to help the Palestinians these past few months through your charity efforts. I think this is the 4th or 5th video you’ve talked about it - which makes us feel so great about supporting you and shows us that you mean it when you advocate for victims of true crime ❤
I’m a twin non identical, I’m 16 nearly 17 and me and my sister were so close, we would do everything together and loved each others company but as soon as I got a bf she got really jealous and would do anything to end my relationship with him and would constantly chat shit abt me to him at this point we got really distant… she eventually had sex with him,sent many nudes and met him behind my back many times Edited - thank you guys for all the love it’s honestly so sweet and when I found out she decided to carry on lying to my face and I realised when she was doing these things with my bf at the time she had a man of her own 💀
OMG I can't imagine that. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm a fraternal twin too.We used to be closer but as we went to separate colleges, we grew apart.
The energy vampire thing at 37:00 is something I experienced in my past. I had a close but incredibly unhealthy relationship with a close relative. People who just met us for the first time often said “I thought you guys were sisters.” Maybe we were twins in a past life, who knows. Our relationship was full of resentment and bitterness on both sides, but we lived together and were basically joined at the hip. I was very much her caretaker, but I collapsed emotionally when we were apart. After my dad died, we were all the family the other had. And both of us could never be happy, or feel good, at the same time. It was like a seesaw. She’d be on top of the world, I’d be miserable. Or vice versa. It felt for all the world like there was only enough life energy for one of us, and we had to share. It was horrible. And not to get too deep into it, but she suddenly and unexpectedly had a heart attack and passed away about 2 years ago. And as much as I grieved and wanted to die too, as much as I would have given my life for hers, or would have stayed by her side until the end of time, it was only when she was gone that I began to really live again.
I have twin sons. They will be 4 in July. They fight and they do get competitive for attention, obviously. But for the most part they feel what the other feels and they love each other deeply. Just today, the oldest (by 3 minutes) was crying because the youngest was in trouble. Twins fascinate me especially as a twin mother. I love watching them grow together.
@@LoraHari81 yes true. There was a crime commited by a twin guy and they couldn't even tell which twin committed the crime because they both claimed innocence so they both were sentenced. It's not simple to test DNA between identical twins.
Exactly! Just yesterday I was thinking about scenarios like this after watching another video and I looked it up! Was so surprised that they're not the same when they split apart from eachother from the egg
@@lulu_LmTwins' fingerprints are not identical. I don't know what twin case you're talking about but their fingerprints were probably not on file prior to the case. I challenge you to name the case.
As a mother of twins this case breaks my heart. This is obviously a classic case of nurture over nature. Those evil parents ruined their poor children.
A pair of twins we knew were quite different from each other. One, the mother's fave and pride and joy, was slim, outgoing, gregarious and into sports. Made friends very easily. The slightly younger twin was the exact opposite, quiet and almost invisible. When we attended the wake of the older twin who had died of cancer at age 16, many felt sad for the younger and thought she would feel the loss alot. I had a feeling she would actually be happier coming out from her late twin's shadow. I was right. She totally changed, blossomed and 'became' her twin. She took to the 'spotlight' like she had practised it in her mind alll her life.
I have 23 yr old twin boys and I am so grateful that my boys never had any problems like this.. but they were always raised to be individuals and had their own personalities and I believe you are what you grow up in including the society where they were raised my boys don’t do drugs, not gangs nor have never been in jail one is a sheriff, and the other one is a chef we are very proud of all three of our children.. plus our daughter is in her last 2 years of college before she gets her Doctorate degree in criminal psychology Sheriff a chef and a doctor so I am very proud all three of my kids.. I don’t know What I would do with my kids came out with bad Intentions, maybe I have been with their father for 30 years and grew up in the same place their whole lives but I’m so grateful for my husband and kids ❤.. and I really hope that that family finds peace and love for each other..
Also (as a boy/girl twin ) I feel very guilty when I fight with my twin brother because it feels wrong like we were born to be friends. My mom has always described it as "having a built-in friend"
As a faternal triplet...lemme just give you a long distance hug. Tons of familial abuse and trauma and - none of us get along. Don't feel bad. You're normal. I have a theory that that whole "built in friend" thing is more of a stigma put on by media than a reality.
True story…a friend had twin baby girls just 9 months ago. The babies have hated each other since birth! They will scream and cry if the other twin is brought near them. They calm instantly when you remove the other twin from their line of sight. Mom and Dad change them, feed them, play with them in separate spaces. It is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen and I’m very interested to see how this turns out.😳
I really do feel bad for the two boys. They were both pressured to something they didn’t want to do. Its easier to feel persuaded when you are young by older people because you feel they are more superior.
I think the dynamic of the mom always having a favourite deffinately fueled the fire, along with the seperation of them as babies. Terrible parenting is what sparked this rivalary in my opinion. Side note: what kind of weird fucked up people just take one twin for themselves and abandon the other? Like they are their own person with their own interests and personality and you dont care to get to know one of your two children at all? Crazy.
It’s weird watching this video the week my identical twin sister is visiting/staying with me…now I’m going to be giving her the side-eye treatment the whole time.😂
Couldn’t imagine ever hurting my sister, she’s my best friend. It’s heartbreaking to see and hear of these things happening and I feel so blessed we have a great bond
It was really sweet of the dispatcher in the beginning to start whispering as well. I’ve seen so many 911 calls where the dispatchers are rude or loudly yapping away into the phone.
I have a twin sister and she was my biggest enemy and bully since the day i was born. Or more like i was her enemy. I always loved her but she hated me with passion and wished me death. I don't know where it came from. It was just always like that. Our relationship became slowly better after our twentiees. She huged me for the first time when we were 23 or something. I was always jealous of other twins that had amazing conection because i was pushed away by my twin. It scared me for life. She was the cool girl, and i was the sister that everyone forgot about. I remember when we had birthday and we shared some candy with the clasmates, they wished her "happy birthday" and then the looked at me and said "oh...its your birthday too...". Yeah, so fun 😅
Sibling rivalry is scary enough but twin rivalry is another level Twins think differently but they know how their other half thinks which is terrifying
I'm a twin to a brother, Mom "which is a narcissist" favourites him over me, she spoiled him while kept neglecting me my whole life, we hate eachother af...he is my biggest bully. I have third degree burn on my left thigh close to my private parts and another second degree burn on my left hand because he someday was so angry that he threw a whole pot full of boiled water on me and Mom forgave him immediately while I COULDN'T SLEEP FROM THE F*CKING PAIN coz no one bought me pain killers. He also caused me several s*xual traumas and SAed me for a long time by different ways that I grew up having a problem with men and s*x overall. Till this day we are still living in the same house. I can't blame anyone in this case nor I see anyone truly evil more than their mom. Parents are fully responsible when twins hate each others like that.
Firstly, yes identical twins have the same DNA. But they have different finger prints. And they will also have different dental records. Secondly - The study you spoke about, they did an extensive documentary on it. Think it was on Netflix mainly focused on a set of triplets. These cases were absolutely heartbreaking. The people that started this study and took part in it were playing “god”. What they did was diabolical. They also ensured that the families that got those particular triplets had previously adopted a girl who would be 4yrs older than the triplets. The differences were that one family was extremely wealthy, one was middle class and the third family was working class. They were also strictly a Jewish adoption agency. And when the families found out they demanded answers for their children. Yet even when the triplets and other children (now adults) fought to get the records and results of the “study”. They only got reports that were so heavily redacted it gave them no answers whatsoever. The “powers that be” definitely were more heavily involved than they will ever admit. When it comes to the Han twins, the awful parenting plays a *huge huge* role! From them separating the girls at birth, to the father then abandoning them. To them moving and up hauling their lives twice. Then their mother abandoning them. I also imagine that they also began to resent each other because the one who was with the dad would think “why wasn’t I good enough for mum?” And the one with the mum would think “why wasn’t I good enough for the dad?” Then the mum actually preferring Sunny would be the ultimate nail in the coffin so to speak. Without a doubt I can confidently say (IMO), that this particular case was nurture… or the lack there of.
That is a good doco about the triplets. I can picture them now ... nice looking young men with huge smiles and sort of afro looking hair. They were so happy to have found each other, but sadly one of the triplets ended up unaliving himself 😢 Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
Amazing channel. Great storytelling. I love crime docus. now I'm obsessed with your podcasts. I listen to this before sleeping. Helps me sleep. Keep it going 🙌🏾
It made me think about the TikTok series by Risa Tisa “ who the F did I marry” in the end she finds out that Legion had been modeling his life after his successful twin. They lived completely different lives.
Honestly the mom was the worst here. She only relied on the one she felt deserved it instead of giving them both love. Neglect can really change someone, what a disappointing parent.
Yes. I don’t know if you agree with me but I have seen my (Asian) relatives try to sweep all siblings disputes under the rugs, even if they steal from or hurt each other. “Everything should be resolved behind closed doors, we do not want outsiders to get involved.” Since sunny testified against Gina, it could be theorized that sunny broke the family code.
Im a FRATERNAL twin but I did grow up in a study hard household and I can very much confirm that being separated would definitely affect the relationship. When being together in early youth, you naturally bond together due to basic circumstances. When stripped of that connection early on, it basically ensures that you see your "twin" as a copy of yourself, a better/worse version of yourself.
Both of us having recently graduated high school, I feel like me and my sister have more love for each other and fight way less than when we were teenagers. I can’t even imagine having such jealousy and rage for my sister, and it getting so much worse over time, it’s just crazy to me.
It's so weird that the mother not just would 'favor' a twin but completely cut the other one out. I think if I was a twin who would kill my twin, it would be from self hate. I don't think that's what this was, just what my own life would be.
I'm a Faternal twin. There are days that we look Identical. When we were little - totally. As we get older - here and there. It depends on what we are wearing or if we gain or lose weight. I never got pregnant. But when my sister was pregnant... I would be craving Chinese food, call her up because we would be hanging out that day and because of sickness and pregnancy cravings I offered to bring her food... she wanted Chinese! So strange! It literally kept happening!!! The Twin vibe was VERY strong during her pregnancy. I would feel anxiety when she was anxious about her pregnancy for some reason. And the day of her birth (It was her first), that morning she almost died during child birth and I was driving to work and working that first few hours and I literally felt a pit in my heart like SOMETHING IS WRONG! But I knew she was supposed to deliver that day and that someone would call me and I would be at the hospital right after work. I didn't find out that she almost died till afterwards. I wanted to hurt her husband for NOT telling me sooner. There was also a case years ago in 2012 about a young woman killed (she had a twin) and the story is so heartbreaking. Her twin said in an interview that when you lose your twin it's like a cloth and it's being twisted and pulled in your heart. I just cry. Cause I can't imagine losing my twin. Lot's of coverage of that case: one source: www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/who-killed-julia-niswender-michigan-student-found-dead-in-bathtub-at-her-off-campus-apartment Oh and a couple years ago, My twins husband and her were upset with my mom and me for a couple things, long story. But He banned my mom and me from seeing them. It lasted for about 3 months. He totally overreacted about the situation and his response was to ban us and her from seeing each other, and their kids!!! It was such a ridiculous situation and I had found out I suffer from PNES (Seizures induced by Stress) and I just kept having 1 seizure after another. And He said awful things to me. It literally felt like my soul was under attack during the whole thing. I couldn't see my twin and her babies. They are like my babies. Because of this Twin Vibe... I am so much closer to those babies than any others in the family. We are okay now, But I am on edge a lot thinking it could happen again. It's like this story about the Sunny almost taking her life, her soul was under attack. It's so hard to explain. Just imagine heartbreak in the sense of a cloth in your heart being twisted and then pulled and (to me) ... Daggers going into it. That's what it feels like. This is such a crazy case. So interesting too.
Thank god she got time served. Way too many cases have turned into murder/serial murder because mommy doesnt hold her kid accountable. Glad to see the court stepped in and did it themselves. I feel for all of them, too. The boys of course, but also the girls. It’s so heartbreaking to see people fail children time and time again.
