Korg Monologue EBM D.A.F. style - transpose in sync - if slaved to impulse (but not Midi) 

Electronic bum music?

@@benjahnz Electronic Body Music - subgenre of early electronic dance music. DAF, Nitzer Ebb etc. Modern Variant: Jäger 90. EBM needs: a basic drumset (often acoustic drums played live), a synth-baseline, often detuned, with quarter tones and odd lengths - and a shouting of short sometimes dada-like text phrases :) This is EBM: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYIKgSLpqPk.html

In the '70s they did it on a MiniMoog. In 1973 they created some kind of blueprint, i guess. But it fell into oblivion for almost an entire decade. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4L2yaIsxPAQ.html

@@daisaigai7 Yeah, Kraftwerk, the inspiration to electro-funk and finally detroit techno. I don't know how close the connection to EBM is, but both, Kraftwerk and D.A.F. are from Düsseldorf AFAIR. www.theguardian.com/music/2020/may/25/from-germany-to-detroit-and-back-how-kraftwerk-forged-an-industrial-exchange Chrislo (Christian Haas), also member of D.A.F. for a while, later made great detroit/berlin tracks: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tyHpUZJrnRQ.html

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Chance Meeting thanks! I like the sound of the Odyssey more (precise PWM) for EBM, classic sound. But it has to be sequenced. That's what I'd take the monologue in latch mode for :) or Arturia keystep.

Odyssey is classic DAF!

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I think the sequence was based on Der Mussolini by D.A.F. From there believe I made variations and tried to maintain the style. AFAIK D.A.F. used an ARP sequencer and therefore could make sequences with free tuning. That’s why no cover ever hits the spot :) But with an Odyssey and Behringer's new Eurorack (Moog) Sequencer (CV) it would be possible to play in the same ballpark, I guess. :) With the Arp sequencer you start with all sliders completely down and then slide some notes up. That leads to these typical baselines. It is a little more complicated (mind-wise) to do it with chromatic keys. Oh - and did I mention that Elektron's model:cycles and model:samples are microtonal by default (1/10th semitone)? :D

@@elekktrikk_home_video Can confirm. Getting the sound right is easier with the ODYSSEi.app than the ms-20.app in the Korg Gadget on the iPad

Thx. I think yes, haven’t touched the machine for a while.

@@elekktrikk_home_video Oh man, it would be so awesome to share it, I'm almost willing to buy it from you. I've been trying to replicate it for months without success!!!!!

@@steveramond ok, i will have a look. Will probably share on elektronauts forum then. Please remind me if you don’t hear back within 3 weeks (very busy times). Cheers, glad you like it :)

@@elekktrikk_home_video Oh great!!!! Thank you!

@@elekktrikk_home_video Hi! I searched the forum, but couldn't find it. Did you post it? Cheers!

I think I can guess what you might mean. I think the answer would be: Volca Beats (Master) : Sync Out --> Sync In : Korg Monologue (Slave)

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They're inside the Korg stomping on the ground to produce that kick sound haha

In the early 80s, they couldn't create a harsher sound on synthesizers such as Korg or Moog. So they used a Marshall guitar amp and some studio effects.

@@daisaigai7 thanks for the info, but your point is..?

The point is that proto-EBM regularly doesn't sound that harsh. It's a question of technology & development.

thats may be, doesnt change my sugestion :)

Set Volca to the same sync settings as monologue or vice versa (e.g. sync 16th note, polarity rising), clock source auto. Worked for me. Cheers! :)

@@elekktrikk_home_video thanks! I thought I'd tried that but definitely will double check. 👍

Sidvs No, I don’t. Suppose bug :(

Damn, I thought somebody might know an answer or what to do :( I've been looking into this with no progress. If I may ask, did you try using the Monologue in a setup with a PC? If yes, did it work no problem?

Sidvs The Monologue is great and works fine with midi over midi or midi over usb. The only strange thing I found is the fact that it won’t behave as expected in latch mode (free or midi-synced) - it always resets at key press (not at the next 16th note). I am glad it works the way I want it when synced to analog pulses (as demonstrated here).

Elekktrikk Thanks, I managed to work out the usb midi slave issue. However, I can't seem to be able to transpose the sequence when slaved to DAW... The KEY TRG/HOLD function always deactivates when I start the transport in the DAW and the sequence starts normally, but playing the keys just adds notes on top of the sequence that is playing. Please do you know how to fix this? :(

Is the sequence you want to transpose saved in the monologue patch or do you want to send it from ableton and transpose with the monologue (the latter would not work)?

David make an audio click track with 8th or 16th (you can record it from the Korg iOS sync app or create on your own) in ableton and feed that click audio signal to the trigger in of the monologue. That should sync it and make synchronised transposition in latch mode possible.

David or you could sequence the monologue directly with midi notes from ableton midi clips and live transpose ableton (there are videos here on RU-vid how to do that)

Elekktrikk ooooh thank you man!!! I was very silly I hadn't thought that the process could be so easy! Thx :)

I can sync my monologue to ableton, but when i went enter in the tranpose mode, stops the song

David syncing with monologur internal sequences only works correctly if the monologue is slaved to an analog trigger signal (like here in this video). If you have ableton why don't you make midi sequence clips in ableton and transpose ableton? Search for real-time midi transpose ableton. ask.audio/articles/ableton-live-transposing-clips-using-a-midi-keyboard

Korg monologue is now as cheap as never (250 EUR). :) The volca beat is modded (snare fixed).

@@elekktrikk_home_video ah, that explains a lot!