@@Zeis it's not that impressive. TOEIC is quite easy because it doesn't require speaking abilities or actually writing something, pretty much it is reading and listening comprehension only plus limited amount of grammar. Additionally it's always "choose the answer". I took this test couple of years ago when it was requested by employer for hiring process and during that time even though I had good listening and reading skills - I had almost zero grammar pretty much. Because my English knowledge is based on listening entertaining content and reading technical documentation rather than actually learning the language. I had only couple of days to read some grammar textbook before the test. Pretty much I was somewhere on B2 level. I also had zero confidence in my ability to actually speak English, never did that. Yet I scored 985 / 990. Lost 5 points somewhere in reading section, could be a honest mistake, could be brainfart too.
I'm glad Hololive acknowledged that they need to up their JP's talent English game. Especially because how big their EN and ID branch has become. Other branch like EN and ID are filled with many talents who can speak multiple languages and then there are JP talents who are almost just JP only with a few exceptions. I started to notice starting from Gen 6 to Regloss that many of their new talents either are bilingual/multilingual or they used to studied aboard before. So I wasn't "Halu" lmao From the clip I saw yesterday, even Flare acknowledged that learning English is important even if you don't think you'll use it in the future, because the future is uncertain and now one of her best friend is from EN.
TOEIC is like the easiest English test that can still please companies but there's A LOT of questions. For Vtuber -cats- girls to take a standard test like this is already impressive.
To be fair, you ever listen to japanese people speak "English"? It's terrible, but it's because they been taught like that at Japanese schools, the pronounciation are terrible, incorrect. It's Japanglish. Of course they will have a hard time if they take standard test like this, particularly the listening part. Just for an easy example McDonald. In Japanese they pronounce it as マクドナルド (Makudonarudo). Don't be too hard on Koyori. I think she tried.
Not a good example. We pronounce マクドナルド as such, because it is not an English word McDonald anymore, but a loan word マクドナルド came from English, incorporated in Japanese language with Japanese phonetics. I mean, I'd be a biggot if I were to complain about how English words like sushi or sake are pronounced "wrongly", e.g. you threw pitch accent away, you're rounding your lips too much on the "u" sound, etc. And your point still stands. Not many English teachers here know how to pronounce English sentences properly, and even if they knew, they wouldn't try to make students to acquire proper pronunciation. It's not like you need to be able to speak a good English anyway -- at least, it's still not a must-have skill in Japan. Yet. I'd love to become good at it, though.
... and have you actually ever listen to a Japanese person speaking English? To a person that can say something beyond "Hallo have are u?" I would assume the answer is no.
@@meezookee8491 that's probably everywhere in the world, pretty much schools are focused on grammar and vocabulary, not pronunciation. The same way no one cares about Japanese pronunciation when a student only knows about 500-1000 words and basic grammar. But pretty much people who use English for work - no problems whatsoever. In some cases the only thing that gives it up is use of "ano, etto..." in speech. And in general people tend to copy how others speak. Movies, youtube, colleagues etc. So in order to get "Japanese" accent - person should be placed in "echo-chamber", where he would be able to speak English only to Japanese people - which never happens outside of the school. Such "echo-chambers" usually happens when English is the native language - and so you have British accent, American accent, Australian accent and Indian accent.
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