shes koreas standard. and if you truly look at beauty through a lens so tiny then that's kinda pathetic. if I looked at every skinny blonde girl and said shes "americas beauty standard" so that automatically means shes the prettiest that'd be incredibly small minded don't you think?
@@4m3mory I’m not saying this, I’m just saying that we can’t compare their beauty because there is a big age gap between them. And I like Wonyoung and IVE, I’m more of a dive than a SNSD fan alr
@@rin-bb2vu you acting like Korea itself ain’t known for cosmetic procedures let alone the kpop industry. Hybe, YG, jyp you name it Some idols go through some kind of procedure
@@ferdoushihossain5922 LMFAOO when did i ever disagree with those facts? SM is known for forcing their idols to undergo surgery compared to other companies. Im not saying that SM is the only one , which other companies is like that as well. You didnt need to include "u actin korea aint known for cosmetic" which I definitely knew that.
@@rin-bb2vuyall realise alot of sm artists look like their childhood pic .most of them get small shit done .get over the fact tht u only thing sm does ps well
@@user-qi1qv6wk6severyone in the industry has has surgery, some have had huge surgeries and some are so small that they are unnoticeable, even wonyoung has had minor surgery. Grow up
So yoona is the reason why all these young girls have anorexia? Beauty standards are toxic and shouldn't be pushed all of these women are beautiful. Just because she "made the beauty standards" does not make her more beautiful than others. Beauty is subjective. Also, beauty standards change which makes them even more toxic. The statement "Yoona is the reason why the Korean Beauty Standards exists" is exactly a good thing Korean Beauty standards are incredibly toxic and most women and girls in Korea struggle with body issues because of that.
Doesn't matter because I never found her visual that appealing lime many people hype about it. I just don't see it. Have been a fan of snsd since 2009 and have watch almost all her dramas, and all these years, I couldn't understand the hype about her visual. She is mid at the max. There are other women who are so gorgeous and she cannot be included in that category.
Y’all need to stop saying that cause this literally isn’t true also standards change it’s 2023 not 2010 anymore like how small lips was the standard in korea back then now it’s big ones
@@jinnxx2729Soo, Yul and Fany have always been the SNSD visuals to me. I find Yoona pretty but she doesn't have a wow factor. I definitely think Wonyoung has facial features that makes her stand out more.
What about the male ones in 3rd gen or 4th gen if you don't mind me asking? For 3rd gen, Taehyung and Eunwoo has had definitely the biggest visual impact. For 4th gen, I really don't know if there is any sm idol that has had as much of a reach with their visual as hyunjin, regardless of whether or not he deserves it. If there is anyone that I may have overlooked, please let me know.
fr joy used to think she was the prettiest girl ever and she said when she first met irene she felt discouraged bc she suddenly thought she couldnt be prettier then irene
@@kpopgaming5190well the reason why wony stands out to this photo is because she got a lot of makeup compared to yoona who has simple makeup... not to burst your bubble but wony isnt the prettiest idol to every single kpop fans... remember she also has a lot of haters which is counted as the people who think she isnt pretty... i dont hate wony but i also dont appreciate her beauty though i admit she's pretty but i still think the other idols are even prettier than her 10 times more...
Yea everyone is talking about how yonna has the best visuals she definitely isn't ugly nor that hype they be giving her saying she is prettier then other idols there is something that makes jisoo unquie from Irene tho
Standard basically means the BARE MINIMUM of accepted requirement. Of course as time goes by there will be people who went above the standard that's just logical.
@@NyoungLoverin south korea, i’m pretty sure if you are the korean beauty standard, that means youre the living epitome of what beauty stands for. it’s a super high praise
@@seomi-ui6vo lol WHAT MADE YOU THINK THAT WY ENDED THE NATION'S VISUAL? THE KOREAN EMMA WATSON? THE EPITOME OF BEAUTY IN KOREA? AND FYI YOONA IS ALL NATURAL AND YOUR FAV IS... AND YOONA ENDED WONYOUNG WITHOUT EVEN STARTING. GO BARK.
@@nyxhecate2857 that picture of yoonas wasn’t her best and wonyoung looked gorgeous there, ofc wonyoung overshadowed her in that picture, but in my opinion, they’re both equally gorgeous in different ways. No one ate Nobody
But they are also wearing two different makeup looks. Yoona is wearing a more natural look and still stands out. But she is the standard in Korea so I’m not surprised.
@@4m3mory age pity? Lmao the harsh beauty standards y’all hold wonyoung to we’re based off of Yoona’s looks lmao 💀 and let’s not pretend like the Korean beauty industry isn’t obsessed with youth/children. Why do you think so many idols are minors nowadays?
@@alaaye5237 wony is objectively pretty and everyone knows that, they dont need listed standards to find out. wats soo special abt somebody being given unrightful standards decades ago where uall cant get over it. and kpop preferring younger idols is exactly why AGE PITY exists?? i don't agree with prohibting adults & older trainees to debut, but some of them runext watchers were literally like "vote for the older trainees, it's their last chance to debut". like umm... vote for them bc they're the most taletned, charismatic, or ur fav?? not simply bc they're older?? by number??
@@4m3mory Ageism exists, and acknowledging that ppl are pushed out of the industry at a certain age isn’t age pity. For many idols it is their last chance to debut because the idol industry is ageist and misogynistic. Majority of the younger ppl debuting are not more talented, or better looking. They are simply younger. So if anything that makes them more privileged. But you’re saying that “age pity” is real when in reality older ppl (specifically women) are mistreated because of their age.
Do we really need to base every idol's visual in korean beauty standards? So if idols don't fit kbs, they can't be prettier? Are you saying that we should always think that kbs fit idols are way prettier than those who aren't? Beauty is subjective. If people feel that wonyoung is better in the photo, let them be. No need to say "yoona is the standard" and "wonyoung's make-up is darker and yoona's make-up is natural". It just shows that you can't accept opinions.
@@Vera_bd the real gag is, Koreans don’t really care that much about kbs. Jennie fits about 50% of kbs and she was plastered around the country and was called the “ideal look” notice how more idols with unique features debuted after her. Kbs doesn’t mean the world.
@@mikylejoubert8347 i agree, yet some people can't just accept that wonyoung shined in the photo more and kept on dragging yoona's kbs thing. I think they are expecting that since yoona is the kbs, she should be the prettier one. Like hello, we have our own standards.
Right like...i think it was the clothing..Yoona still ate up with her natural looks while Wony got plastic surgery and heavy makeup....she doesn't need them.!
@@SneakyBtchh Wtf is your problem with Wonyoung leave my girl alone why are y’all mad cause Wonyoung overshadowed Yoona’s visuals with just one picture like it ain’t Wonyoung’s fault that her stylist actually care about making her look even more beautiful and stand out among other people SM should hire stylists like Wonyoung’s
@@SneakyBtchhYoona has plastic surgery on her jaw. Wonyoung only did enough to emphasize her natural features, Yoona literally shaved half her jaw ☠️ .
@@harveyism what jaw surgery....looking at the old pics i haven't seen any change.... she's aged gracefully while wony might get addicted to look perfect, using ps might leave u botched one day....
@@Sooyaa-qz7gd why don't you let her be entitled of her own opinion. If she sees irene the original visual, let her be. People shouldn't always drag yoona everywhere visual-related just because she is the "korean beauty standard".
@@Vera_bd If someone says that jisoo or tzuyu are most beautiful then these people will drag Irene in it and will say Irene is most beautiful bcz she fits "KBS" more than them then why will I not include YOONA I'm just doing what they always do and I'm saying this as a multistan bcz I have seen many red velvet or mostly Irene fans doing this
@@Sooyaa-qz7gdwhy are you being a hater of them Jisoo and Irene and tzuyu are really pretty they’re gorgeous and for your information Jisoo is the prettiest girl in 2023
@@Hayleywilliams6549Irene didn't create nobody....what do u mean?? Just because Wonyoung is tall...doesn't mean Irene is less Beautiful ....Irene's face will always be legendary. Admit or not😏... Short people can be very attractive too.....height isn't everything 🤦♀️
Yoona - 33 years old Wonyoung - 19 years old * Like what do you want to say ?? She looks super pretty at 33 and she is the reason for visual position in k-pop groups*
But even if she is 100•/• doesn’t mean she is prettier it means only that she fits the KOREAN standard •/• I like yoona but she isn’t the prettiest female idol
@@HamonadangMaasimI mean,if the creator of comment intended that creator of Kbs is 90% and above Yoona: 100% Irene: 97% Wonyoung: 99% (for comparison)
Netizens are really dumb for this💀 Just look at the difference in makeup between yoona, jisoo and wonyoung, irene. And let's be fr hanni definitely didn't looked ordinary beside winter, both of them looked pretty. You can't fool us by showing us a fto where we can only see one side of hanni, we've saw her pics at that event and she was fking gorgeous.
Back when I was just starting to stan Red Velvet, Irene was the member who really caught my attention because of her goddess -tier visuals. Even if I didn't have a bias yet at that time, I was already completely blown away by her beauty.
Anyone can beat Yoona's visual, it's just not her era anymore, i'm used to like Yoona visual in my childhood but as i grow Yoona visual looks ordinary compared with today visual
@@labezosuarez9152 nah, Yoona is gorgeous. Put some respect on her visuals asap. When Yoona and Wonyoung stood next to each other Yoona's visuals overshadowed Wony easily, but her visuals paled in comparison to Momo. Momo just looks so unique and ethereal imo.
Standard basically means the BARE MINIMUM of accepted requirement. Of course as time goes by there will be people who went above the standard that's just logical.
Standard of what??? Never found her gorgeous, tbh. She is at best average. Never understood the hype about her beauty. Always found her overrated. There are so many gorgeous women out there who have better visuals than her including Wonyoung. Not really a fan of Wonyoung cause I find her cringy, but come on, even before surgery, she had a cute and charming face. And NO, I. DONT. HATE. YOONA. Please don't come to that conclusion like y'all always do. I just find her visual overrated and couldn't find any reason as to why or how people made such hyped about it.
I know that there are other idols out there who are prettier than Yoona (even tho Yoona is already a goddess herself) but I really think that Yoona is the perfect visual throughout many kpop generations. Her visual amplifies her group, extending her glow to everyone else. Yoona stands out without overshadowing anyone. Instead, her beauty makes her members shine even brighter
OK I just noticed most of the idols that are being overshadowed are actually smiling and the others are with a straight face. I think they all are beautiful in their own way.💞
yeah a lot of them already look fine, but they are famous for plastic surgeries or at least massive beauty treatments. They have their own beauty clinic in SM, take example taeyeon (she did some surgical procedures & massive beauty treatments. I remember a video of her in early debuted when her ear got cut bcs it seemed doctor used her ear skin for implant/something on her nose ).
Even Irine (double eyelids & beauty treatments). They already look pretty as standard but they still did some surgical procedures & regular/massive beauty treatments (non surgical). If wanna list agencies who their idols really take care of their look especially with massive beauty treatments (thats why made them look the same bcs they have the same treatments) : 1. SM 2. JYP, Cube, Hybe 3.YG
@@stardust332 Tbh that's a fair argument lol. Aren't all idols are supposed to look good? if I'm not wrong, visual is part of being an idol so it doesn't matter if they wear a lot of make up or did a plastic surgery or anything.
@@KimAhrina11Here we go again.Why all kpopers said all SM artist got ps??What even do you know about Taeyeon?She was confirmed that she IS NOT doing anything to her face.Even the host on variety show ask her to do nose job but she said NO-NEVER.Just because they look different from the childhood photo≠they do ps!!!!!
The ones mentioned here as ordinary has less makeup than the one next to them tho. If we are going to compare it should be done based on their natural beauty and without makeup.
i think comparing them is stupid in the first place. hanni’s beauty is warm and pure while winter is more cold and mature if you know what i mean? like, hanni’s features are softer while winter has sharp features. that makes them both pretty in different ways, no need to compare.
@@SADIE_Maybe_SADISTIC Actually you shoud, because it will help cause depression and self-rejection among her young fans. It's not Winter fault obviously. I love my members. It's the way this industry works
All of them are beautiful and versatile in their own way. If they all look same but outstanding where is uniqueness. Visuals shouldn't be considered only to see outstanding one, since visuals means uniquess and attractives which they all are. Jisoo, Irene,Yoona,wonyoung, hanni, winter all are beautiful none of the overshadow eachother.
OKAY BUT I LOVE WONYOUNG BUT I DONT AGREE WITH YOONA LOOKING ORDINARY STANDING NEXT TO WONYOUNG??!!!!! BOTH OF THEM ARE PRETTY IN THEIR OWN WAY AND NONE OF THESE IDOLS BEAUTY OVERSHADOWS ANOTHER.
the disrespect towards all of them but especially towards Yoona, THE visual of kpop???? *edit:* okay the reply section ain't it.... I'm just trying to say that it's unfair to compare anybody with someone else because of their looks and call the other "ordinary" or "ugly" because of you feel the need to make sure your fave is the main attraction. And Yoona is a very respected idol for fitting 100% of KBS(at least I thought????), that's why I said what I said. I didn't mean to degrade anyone and also not wonyoung, they're both gorgeous.
Wonyoung has been named the most beautiful woman in Korea multiple times in magazines it’s not far fetched and not unreasonable especially considering both of them have been named the beauty standard
not uall doing tricks on 2nd gen to hype them up for titles they were once given yrs ago. if anything the 2nd gen visual should be SUZY too. uall aint saying yoona is pretty cuz there's nothing to say, u just keep referencing her title
Happy to see all these people coming to defend Yoona. Irene and Yoona are kpop most legendary female visuals, and I highly doubt Woony will come to that, despite her true beauty. Karina will, I think.
Can we stop judging idols looks and making videos like this…. This is the main reason behind the insecurity of so many people… yall r gonna say this isnt the creators opinion but at the end of the day the ones who make these videos are spreading the toxic beauty standards kpop already makes idols insecure and imagine idols seeing these type of videos and feeling insecure and depressed and pressured by these toxic beauty standards why do even talk about these toxic beauty standards like praising idols on their beauty is fine but comparing them and using terms like she is way beautiful than her or nothing compared, or _ cannot be compared with anyone in visuals. Is just depressing and later yall r the ones who say kpop is just about visuals now
Ikr half of the comments are only pissed about yoona but not on how such ideas impact the idols. like imagine being judged for even the features you were born with. if it would be me it would totally crush my confidence to stand next to a pretty idol. why can't we accept they're all humans all pretty no need to bring someone down just because you prefer someone else's visuals.
@@zoi7582fr, like wtf is the visual position anyway and what do u mean ordinary every feature of ur face is gods gift and is special..im so fed up of beauty standards
finally a comment that makes sense. and don't tell me these are the same people saying how toxic korean beauty standards are. idk what these youtubers are thinking of (obviously views and debate) while uploading this type of contents. these comments are so many that i'm afraid of getting attacked for calling them toxic.
@@Sooyadream_ i mean the visual position is given to the one that fits the closest to the beauty standard and to my knowledge they’re the ones that are best at modeling and stuff like that. i suppose they get more modeling training than the rest of the group.
@@Sooyadream_ but yeah, like i hate these types of videos. like netizens ask why kpop idols are so insecure about their looks and the proceed to upload things like this
She didn’t change since 10 years ago. I’m not sure it gonna happen for wony she changes literally every year. Ofcurse it’s not her fault. Her company makes her to do that but I’m wonder how her parents let it to happen.
It's the fact that these idols makeup is very minimal but the idols beside them like ex:- jisoo's makeup is minimal and Irene's makeup is not minimal and vice versa for the other idols compared gets them overshadowed that's all .
Nah, she is average. I don't see how she is the main visual or the main representative of visual for female kpop idols. I am sorry I just don't see it at all.
I am so sick and tired of ppl putting women against women. There is no such thing as "ordinary" beauty bc everything in this world,that includes beauty and body goals is subjective PERIOD. Op isn't the one making these statement I know, it's based on netizens' comments but how I wish we'd just ignore absurd comparisons and not make a compilation for young girls to see and think it's okay to compare others to themselves. I wanna see girls thriving and being confident in their own skin bc that shit is AWESOME 😎❤️
@@udiana2887 she's oldER than most kpop idol, but she's still young because any person in their early thirties is young, you don't need to "manage" it much, that's literally nature. Haven't you seen any people in their early thirties? None of them are Grey haired or covered in wrinkles 🤦🏻♀️
I swear people replying to me are children who have never seen a person in their early thirties before, Irene looks just like most early thirties people, still young because people don't age that much between let's say 25 and 32. She's around the same age as girls generation and exo, takes two second to look at them and see they're all young 🤦🏻♀️
@@baechusluvI really don’t understand what they wanted to prove with Irene being 32, if anything it makes her look better looking like that at 32 years old she’s to pretty to be described by words
People keep on saying “oh yoona is og visual” “she is the standard” because she fits 100% doesn’t mean that she is the prettiest you can not fit 100% and still be prettier than her I personally think that are a handful of idols who i find prettier than her
you clearly don’t know kim taehee or song hyekyo, it takes a few time to google on korean translated forums to see that they’re the ones who are the standard, not yoona..
I'm no fan of YoonA but I believe her visual is not lacking compared to Wonyoung. They just have different type of visual. Charisma is on the same level.
That is why Yoona is the standard visual of SK because she is simple but already pretty. They never put her on heavy make up and her face is still the same as when she debuted (just more mature now)
Jisoo being considered visual is something like: "we have no position for her, so let her at least stay with that title" and blinks started supporting it out of pity, Jennie is the prettiest from blackpink and the most it girl of them, she's the true visual of the group.
