@@Straykids_OatMilk I personally don't care either, but usually there are people who are either like "lucky you got a pin and are early!" or people who say things like "no one cares"
I didn't comment "first" just to get pinned or that much of likes . I said "first" just because I love her videos and I was the first person who watched it........I didn't even tell her to pin my comment but I'm glad that she did..
I think those bad comments are actually hurting Lia. because I'm a singer, not a professional one, but everybody experience anxiety, and when I feel anxious oofff my throat start to close and shake, and my voice sound terrible.
they need to know idols have bad days edit: those ppl barking in the comments "youre just defending them" tf bruh. i literally said they have bad days i nvr said anything abt their singing abilities or defended them on their singing yall barking down the wrong tree. i was stating a fact. everyone has bad days and they could be having one. i still love the idols and their singing, if thats not what youre getting from this comment:)
@@diana913 thing is idols are always excused for sounding bad while singing live and i thought that the point of music is to, yknow, sing???? i wonder if these companies even train their idols to sing well since they’re making mistakes 24/7 and all their fans excuse them…. You can’t expect a doctor to make mistakes while performing surgery because he’s having a bad day, now would you?
Actually it was Albert Einstein who was called to do the times table so he got every single one right but he purposely messed up on one and everyone started laughing. He then gave a speech on how no one congratulated him for his rights but laughed at his wrongs.
Tbf, those were probably the clips that went viral, and it'd be misleading to put new clips since we couldn't know why the public thought what they did.
They are also human that needs improvement on something, they weren't born perfect just like us non-celebrity people and not everyday they have good and perfect vocals Criticism and hate is different. They did a mistake but look at them now, improving and doing great. Before you make fun of them, THINK!
Kinda out of context but I need to say this It’s funny when some fans say things like what u said but when idols like Giselle from aespa made a mistake so many kpop fans hate her and don’t even try to understand her
@@afeliz2642 Exactly! People excuse their faves from every thing but throw a huge tantrum when idols like Giselle make a single mistake honestly I didn’t even notice it at first until people started pointing it out.
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 No they mean Jimin get off easier/less harsh criticism because he's a guy while Lia has to suffer a lot more just because she's a girl
@@aki_times_ten No, it's clear that you don't. Where do you see Rosé in the og poster's comment. They're talking about double standards when it comes to gender in kpop, not making a similarities and differences venn diagram about a girl that wasn't even mentioned in their comment.
Jimin actually was sick and had a bad throat if you watch the behind the scenes of that performance it clearly says that he had a bad throat and he even said it himself.
@@nehaa_b15 even if it did occur more than once, it's not like most of his performances are bad. He also had many amazing vocal moments. And on tour, he was often in a bad health condition which does affect singing. It just irks me when people make it seem that he can't sing at all because he makes mistakes... you know like a human being
Rosé didn't get criticism that time, they know that it was a rehearsal and she did completely good at the actual performance and proceeds to the next round
@@kookiemonster6035 cause that kind of people don’t move on..in my country we have phase “people already go to the moon..meanwhile she doesn’t even move from her bed..”
Check her full solo, make your own opinion. Imo she sounded quite good, considering she was obviously nervous etc. But I think she really did a good job!
@@trollsoifyoufightwithmeyou2472 I think this performance was pretty bad for her standards as well. Lia has a really nice voice, she's easily the best vocalist in Itzy, but she runs out of breath fast and sometimes sounds flat. Her lower register is also way stronger than her high notes.
tbh she sounds way better than the clip shown here in this video. midzys who filmed her in the concert during this song posted the video and she was totally fine
Not a BTS stan but Im a fan of Jimin. I really love his vocals. Voices do cracks, even if we speak sometimes our voices cracks 🤣 and considering that BTS are always busy doing tours, singing, and stuffs. They need REST!
@@millihehethe thing is that you guys are jealous of what they have kings/queens also get a crown then why don't you think of being one because you can't
Yes but there should at least be an industry standard. Allowing idols to have proper vocal training before their debut is necessary, and also unfair to trainees who spend years practicing their singing only to get beaten by someone with just a prettier face than them.
Did everyone just forget that she had a major case of the flu that time? She was feeling really insecure that she couldn’t sing to her best ability because she was sick
I am a singer. It's not easy to put your voice in the right position sometimes. It depends on the situation. Some days my voice sounds better than others, some days I can sing songs perfectly and other days I make mistakes. And it's even harder when you have to perform in a 2h concert where you have to sing and dance at the same time. Besides, these are very few videos of very specific situations, you cannot judge someone's vocal skills by just watching 2 videos of them. These idols have had great vocals moments too, as well as bad ones. Singing is a very hard skill to manage and I understand their voice cannot be great sometimes.
Yes you are right...i also sing , when i also sing the same thing happened with me sometimes it sounds soo well and sometimes it's not... Idols also have some hard time and difficulties too..it's really not a small thing that u are dancing and singing at the same time for almost 2 hours..it gets really hard sometimes to breathe while dancing but I don't know why they see these all things why they don't see the reality 😖
You're a singer, so you should have a better idea who can sing and cannot sing, right? There is a difference between someone who is having a bad throat day and someone who singing like a dying whale. You're a singer, I get your point about people can make mistakes but idols are professionals that they should sing live sometimes with live vocals perfectly. They can't sing horribly everytime they are singing live. They are not Villi Minelli who only used recorded voice to gain success, aren't they?
@@brightstar7446 well these idols don't sing terribly everytime they're on stage. I've seen other live performances from them and their vocals were great. As I said these are very specific situations. I know they are not the best vocalists in the world and they have a lot of things to improve but still, they can sing. Although I gotta admit that idols' vocal training is usually very poor and it should be improved or something cause companies always focus on dance skills rather than vocals
@@marunux Not all idols are horrible singers, definitely. There are idols who are great singers AND great dancers, too. They are not called simply singers, not dancers, not MCs but idols. If we would go back to the start of idol culture in Korea, idols are not simple dancers or singers, they are all-rounder talents. Idols should start showing their singing prowess at some point in the height of their careers. I don't get it when fans always make excuses everytime their idols sing really horribly on stage. How some idols are great "singers" in albums but can't even give a single remotely decent live performance? How is it always when they are scheduled to perform live there is something not good on them? Is it still chances or excuses already?
I hate it when anti use this one clip of Jimin's voice cracking and make it as if his vocals are always that way. It's one time out of numerous fantastic performances.
Well and i guess we really need these types of voice cracking moments too.. Like that tell that there humans with flaws and thus prove they're singing live. Also I agree why they troll someone on one bad thing when they don't have the courage to appreciate like thousands of their superb performances
Yes, they are always “sick” when they sound bad. Now try saying that about Beyoncé who performed while sick multiple times and still sounded great. They have poor vocal technique and that is the issue here.
@@fireproof2767 Why tf are you going to every damn comment commenting this? Beyonce has WAYY more experience with this. She obviously knows how to cope. You should NEVER strain your voice while being sick.
Jimin was sick. He couldn’t even perform at their own concert. The boys were tired and we thought they won’t attend that event ( and didn’t focus on voting) They almost fainted after the performances. But guess what? Jimin and Tae were criticized for having weak vocal. Jungkook for being inactive and giving no reaction. Jimin was bullied by netizens and media for many days as they waited that moment for whole life. People still come up with this clip to talk s**t about him. He barely have bad performances apart from that old time when he was not in good condition. He needed to train? No. needed to REST. That boy perfectionist ass trained himself harder than all trainers out here.
I bet you fucking sleep with him too from how much you supposedly know about him that day, by the way singer's are trained to not be too agresive with their voices if thry are sick, if he actually was sick or had the correct training he would know to not start BELTING for those notes and would've kept it low. Not to say he hasn't gone through enough hate but saying that we get our facts straight, he has worked hard an will till the forseable future.
Its sad how kpop fandoms hate Jimin over a 2018 clip where he and V were sick, had 24 concerts each year in 2018-19. It’s obvious after so many continuous concerts their voice will break. Well as of 2021 Jimin got rest and his vocals have improved a lot like alot after Butter, atleast you can be relieved that he doesn’t break anymore. Please understand that BTS didn’t get proper rest in 2018-19, BTS was giving out concerts like mad(24 concerts in each year damn!)
@@winwinner6674what do you mean "fOr TeN YeArS", the man has been singing since debut without any training at first, and was always singing the high notes that females can't hit, he's been singing while dancing to the most hard dance spots given to him, since he travels the most on stage because of his TALENT, and he always killed it, but whenever he was having a bad day or he was sick you could tell that he was because he always sings live, unlike some kpop idols that move their hands up and down and call it a choreography, while lip syncing and being called 'perfect singers!' ,you said that he was singing for ten years and if he was bad like you said then he wouldn't be where he is now so the shit you said doesn't even make sense+ you don't know better than vocalists or voice coaches and musicians, so just get your hater ass out of here...
@winwinner6674 Jimin had a sore throat that day that's why he sounded like that, and have you ever heard his vocals? his high notes are chefs kiss, go find something else to do instead of hating on idols.
@@I.like.sleeping532 bffr, he was never vocally trained or took singing lessons during trainee days or after the group gained popularity and money, not that there was something to be trained in the first place since he never had a good or pleasant voice for singing.💀
@@shialee6342 she really had sore throat... Everyone in rehearsal were kept saying that she is suffering from sore throat.. if you don't know dan don't even comment... You plonk*r
@@theshortmemes00 lmao she cant be sick everytime even in mv's her voice is so annoying she cant use techniques well and she sounds like a fucking crying baby EVERYTIME LMAOOO ☠️
That Rose one was a bit serious. I don't know much about her vocal agility, she really messed up that one. But melisma is not easy stuff tho. Even well-trained singers struggle with that one.
They were just practicing backstage though. It wasn’t a big performance and it wasn’t even one with other idols I don’t think? I think she’s usually fine like in her Masked Singer or Busking performances she sounds great with Suhyun and Onew etc. but the example used was the other idols trying to help her hit her notes so they sang it and then she tried to copy it but was struggling I believe
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 so? That doesn’t take away the fact that she has amazing vocals and absolutely slayed the cover. You don’t need to always sing live to be good at singing.
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 She is good singling live and even if she sometimes sounds like she’s not good it’s obviously because of the hard dancing choreography Itzy does as well as pressure from fans and anxiety. You can’t really blame her for that and she recently had to go on hiatus due to high levels of anxiety and health hazards. I’m sure she sings much better when she’s alone or with her members and she’ll def sing a lot better when she comes back from hiatus.
@@cristiansandovalmartini53321 bad live performance does not impact Lia’s vocal ability. She sings much better live the most idols who lip sync almost every performance. JYP would not have made her main vocal if she wasn’t capable of seeing live. Lia has the best vocal range out of all Itzy members and IMO is most suitable for the position.
@@_etherealisms You know, there are times when a question should be ask. When other's ask a question doubtfully after you tell something, it make you sounds like you're lying, no?
Rosè was warming up and she slayed that part in the concert......she's already least popular now I don't want my precious bias to be the most hated.....and about her vocals are amazing and even if someone took rest for 2 years and makes a single mistake *IT'S OK* If sometimes she's outta tune then what's the problem it's ok!! And I am sure she or any other idol would regret it a *LOT* backstage......
Exactly and they are same people who appreciates people with pretty face no matter you are singing live or lipsyncing. Atleast my Queensé slays wth her live vocals...
The way people are criticizing every ITZY member over a single thing in the comments is disgusting for real, like y’all couldn’t do the quarter of what they did.
itzy is very talented, they probably have one of the best dance lines in kpop, and yuna is very good a rapping, they also have amazing stage presence and amazing songs, but amongst main vocalist lia is one of the weakest, she can still improve but as of now she is not that good
@@justme-ee9xc bc lia doesn’t get lines that will suit her voice. she trained at a vocal academy in korea and she’s stable when dancing too. lia and yeji are both the top vocalists of itzy, with chaeryeong and yuna very close behind them.
@@nnursesharkkk yeji is actually the most stable in itzy, lia is definitely the best vocalist is her group but no where near being the best in 4th gen, and it does matter about lines she does covers on live stages and reality shows
I'm sorry , but their right ! Rosé is my bias but sometimes she sing offtone and it's not being an hater to realize that some idol need to improve or that their teacher teaches them in the wrong way ! Cause if you know the REAL voice of Rosé you know she sing very well but in slow and deep song , but YG want here to sing nazal and high voice . Edit: I know rosé sing well , and sound pretty good in high voice , but if you listen to raw vocal of rosé ( youtube or even their documentary on Netflix ) you can tell that it's not the best way for her to sing like that , and she can be off tone pretty easily. She has a pretty voice but not a lot of technique. And I repeat : I LOVE ROSÉ ! And I think it's just wanting the best for her to realize that yg is ruining her voice by asking her too much and/or teaching her the wrong way .
It's not like Rosé sings offtone all the time. Sometimes she makes mistake like every human does. Ik yg wants to sing her in high pitch but still I won't say that she doesn't sound good in high pitch. Though it's forced but still she sounds perfect to me . It's just sometimes she sings outta tune which is a mistake
@@praveenw.4393 Do you have any knowledge in singing or vocal coaching? The way the vocal trainers at YG teaches rose is a very somewhat old method and her voice isn't "naturally nasally" Its the way the vocal teachers are teaching her which can obviously strain her voice or in instance make her sound a little offtune. Rose has a really nice when she sing in her natural voice. Yall will disagree with anything lmfao if you don't know how the industry works then be quite.
@@praveenw.4393 hey I am tenor so I can sing A#2 comfortably I can also go more deeper and can go high till E6 which is whistle but I don't know I can't sing comfortably in mid ranges can u help me I mean any vocal exercise
well yeah, pitch is one of rosé’s weaknesses and i used to think that she was one of the worst main vocalists in kpop but i think she’s gotten better! (although she still strains quite a lot)
Rosé was warming up there, she ATE that part on the stage. The reason why she was on top of naver searching cause her appearence there was amazing, knetz praised her
@@zhisu2665 lol she win the runner up there for SINGING and Gummy herself chose her. Being praised by diva that rosé used to adore during her trainee days was a great achivement for a rookie idol. Her The King Masked Singer and Fantastic Duo episode are one of the highest rating. She was a rookie and compete against 10years+ experience musical actor, and Sungjae (BTOB), but she could be 2nd best is amazing
@@zhisu2665 she is not typical of idol would get praised just by her visual, she attracts people by her trendy n unique vocal that never heard in kpop. Her uniqeness definitely makes her different and stand out from others.
@@minjeong384 listen to other performances and you’d realise he is a good singer. He (like everyone else) has moments where his voice cracks or he isn’t performing as well. Condemning a person because of one bad performance and believing that good singers have to sound amazing all the time is foolish
@@riveroverland5902 🌚 I used to listen they're performance,song blah blah and also i love jimins voice he's voice good in the song not in performance bcs he's voice cracks some time 🌚 and also u can't say that he was sick every single performance well I'm not your math teacher
To talk about Jimin's vocals..his vocals are insane and as a person who knows him for over like 5yrs,I'm damn sure that day he might have criticized himself for the mistake and imagine seeing netizens write all these comments,how much more would have criticized on his own ability..and with one span of verse,you can't judge a person's ability to sing.. moreover,these guys overwork and might me tired.. about rosé,she might was be just playful during rehearsal and Lia,she has the ability..she does sound like a lead vocalist but she's is not less for taking the main vocalist position.. netizens just doesn't have anything to do other than to say nonsense
Nah, they actually doesn't have good singing skill. Lia has better support than both rose and jimin but still she is considered weak. Rose and Jimin both have nasally tone n high pitched tone . Sometimes it may sound very unique but most often it will sound very bad cuz they don't have any good technique and none support.
@@praveenw.4393 Yeah they don’t have good techniques their vocal sounds good doesn’t mean It's really good all the time..I got vocal training about 10yrs+( for no reasons) but i've some idea about vocal
Y’all gotta understand that BTS had 24 concerts in each of 2018-19 without proper rest. Continuous concerts can obviously ruin your voice(and we know BTS has so many hype songs in concerts which took a toll on Jimin,V’s voice). Look at Proof live performances, they’ve improved alot in 2021-2022.
Yes. Lia's voice went unstable cuz her mom was at the concert. It's totally reasonable to get your throat tight when you feel like crying. tbh JYP's recording/livestream of the performances really did ITZY dirty. Like literally look at the recording any fan who went to the concert and recorded the performances live and in person, itzy sounded wayyyy better and slayyed.
I think rosé was just warming up her voice many idols do like that and Lia was singing without autotune and background music and after their group performance it's difficult to sound good and jimin's one his voice cracked during the performance and he cried after the performance so let's not expect idols to be perfect all the time
Thank you for this. I see so many people hating on Lia for hee vocals in ITZY. She's more comfortable with songs like her cover of Let Me Love You. And Rosè was still getting used to her knew technique. And I'm pretty sure Jimin was either sick or had some throat pain all in all. We need to not judge idols based off of years old clips, around debut. They're still learning and improving.
I'm sorry and I'm not hating but "she was singing without autotune and background music", girl that is what live singing is supposed to be. Some of y'all have literally forgotten what normal norms are because shit like back tracks and autotune even in a vocal performance are so normalised in kpop
@@loonaism6177 i think its not about her vocal problem, its sound like she was nervous on the stage, because if she sing on live radio, her voice are pretty good but if on stage its like... Errr..
@@user-wc5pc I was simply joking, but... if someone needs a production team for autotune and things like that on a live show, it means they probably can't sing anyway.
@@idA_foofautotune what they don't need autotune their natural singing is good ??hey were doing 24 concerts we weren't even sure they will come that day there are tones of performances they sang so good stop judging over few sec clips
Itzy is not a group that need strong vocals, their focus is dance and rap so jyp might only have gave her the position to have at least one person that has vocal support, that’s why she sounds “weak” compared to other main vocalist, but you have to consider her role in the group, and you’ll see she fits perfectly in the description jyp wanted…
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I'm not a midzy but I have heard lia sing in Lee mujin's service and she is an incredible singer. I think in that stage she was just nervous. She has the best technique out of everyone in itzy but she's just not a very stable singer (as in when singing on stage and while dancing). Yeji's technique isn't as good as her but she's rather stable.
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I think their focus is mostly dance (they have really good stage presence tho). I am not sure they have good rap skills .. none of their members is even close to being one of the best female rappers of any generation
this video just a rehearsal, so it doesn't matter, when the actual performance, she nailed it..just like Rosé as a rookie did so well performing a collaboration with a guy (i forget his name) and Jihyo
sorry but ppl need to accept that their fav are weak and some of them can't really sing 💀 nothing wrong with that and please stop the comment "He SoUnDs gOoD hiS vOice iS uNiquE" "NotHinG wRonG wiTh tHe CLip" you aint lying to anyone body
“THEY WERE SICK” when they really are ill that’s fine but fans really pull the sick card to defend their favourites to the death even when they were perfectly fine lmao but it’s fine if they’re not perfect not everyone can be perfect
It's obvious that you cannot sing, because you don't know the difficulty in singing while being sick. You're brave to criticize, but you cannot even sing at all? Lol. Come on! Don't be shy! Upload your song cover! I'm a singer, and I'm ready to judge you if ever you cannot sing. Come on! Upload your song cover. I'm waiting...... to judge you.
@@ygpml did i said sick or something ? i didnt mention anyone in my comment why u r pressed ?💀. if u r a singer u well know that jimin is already the weakest vocalist in bts and has no sense of support+ a bad technique and he's damaging his vocal with the strainned unsupported high notes . its not a matter of being sick or not . i didnt know that jimin was sick in the clip . if you felt like im talking about him then thats ur problem
Burh that's clip are old !! How can you judge her by looking old video , now she already proved her self you haven't watch blackpink let's kill this love live profomace and what about on the ground high notes???
@@lizzymusa6525 look voice do cracks. Even great vocal group lime exo has these type of vocal cracks. That year bts literally had 24 concerts. It was literally the first time jimin had a performance like that since he and V were sick. And bcz of this one clip kpopies on Twitty drags him till this day.
@@1mstillin2019 ofc I know that. And I feel bad but I couldn't help but laugh cos they keep bringing up that clip and doing him dirty☠️ When I'm sure jimin wants to forget abt it.
You crack your voice once after giving thousands of great performances and bitches gonna remember it for like forever.. 💀 Jimin literally have one of the most stable vocals in music industry..
Jimin literally is the least stable vocalist in k-pop, go outside and come out of your bts bubble. He has had more voice cracks that any other k-pop idol. I could show 10 performances where he messed up while singing live. He's a terrible live singer but y'all ego is so big to accept it.
Rosé’s one was a practice tho- Lia’s vocals were not even that offtone Jimin’s strength is his dancing, and that clip was 4 year old(I suppose) he has improved now. I’m not saying whatever these idols did is vocally correct, but it’s okay sometimes it happens.
not Rosé going viral for singing bad when 1) she sounded good during the actual performance and 2)she was actually really sick that day. my girl slayed
According to me, jimin is one of the best vocalist in kpop! And that video is old, also jimin cried just because of his voice and now has improved a lot!💜💜
I do agree with Jimin's one But this clip is very old ( 2017 ?) And he himself told in a interview that he's training to improve his vocals and you should definitely listen to recent songs before judging Everyone trains to improve
I'm a midzy, but lia's vocal..i think she kinda have a (lil) weak on her voice..and i kinda felt bad for that, hope she improve more and more in their journey :)) I don't intend to offend or send hate to lia~
I went to the Phoenix concert where ITZY held their world tour for Checkmate. And I can assure you she sounded AMAZING! And if that happened, nobody noticed!😂❤
am I the only one who thinks that the rosé one wasn’t that bad? seems like she was just having fun and goofing around for the most part and messed up a bit. but she wasn’t taking herself too seriously. rosé can definitely sing so I feel like there’s nothing really to worry about
Tbh Blackpink and Itzy are vocally weak groups they need proper training though Rosè is ult Kpop bias but some times she does sound a little nasally and strains her voice too much which sometimes sound idk a little annoying (Not hating I love both Rosè and Lia).
@@dinahgraham4964 kpop is about singing, dancing, visuals etc ofc they care ab vocals this whole stereotype of “jyp and yg not caring ab vocals” is genuinely so stupid.. if they can’t sing and sound like that live then they shouldn’t debut.. accept the fact that some idols can’t sing and move on omfg
@@reredemzz past idols have even said that they debuted when they weren't ready. Its not always about talent but who fits in a set group. If that was the case every single idols would be well above average of a singer and all are not. Also this is why alot of people in the West don't take kpop seriously because vocals are secondary to dancing and visuals.
Guys just appreciate our Chim chim's (Jimin) voice! He has an angelic, childish voice he has the best different voice in the whole kpop industry💜💜also can u just even saw his dancing skills??? After Jhope he is the best dancer....he is the most flexible member in BTS....BTS , Armys , and most of the people love him for this unique personality.......just Respect to these idols....for the people who hate them for these reasons,,,,Wth is wrong with you ??? Can u be like them ? No,,,,,, do u wanna change u'r own personality? ? No,, do u have same as others?? No... so why? Just stop and stay positive....they didn't even harm or hurt you.....they do these hard works to keep us happy and fresh.....
I don't understand the Jimin one tbh, I've been to 2 bts concerts in 2018 and also in 2019. All 7 members had amazing live vocals including Jimin. I don't recall ever hearing his voice crack or hearing him miss a high note even while dancing. I rly do think he's a great singer.
It was after bts’ world tour so their throats were exhausted. The award show fcked up that day too. You can hear that instrumental is almost unheard and weird. It’s not the original instrumental of fake love. Sound producer picked the wrong one. The show organizers apologized later. Not only Jimin couldn’t sing good there cuz of this but actually all members.
Bts are are really good at singing lives. It's just that mistakes can happen and voice can Crack while singing. It's perfectly fine and in this video jimin wasn't feeling well and he himself was so dosspointed in his performance. It's not just just jimin who wasn't great but none of the bts members couldn't give a good performance. And the frustrating thing is that whenever there is a disagreement ppl still drag this damn episode and sleeps on his other incredible performance and hate on bts☠️
He has messed up tons of times. There have been tremendous times where he has had voice cracks & he has the most voice cracks in bts and also strained his voice. He needs vocal lessons because he's also ruining his voice & throat like this. I don't know about you but it's not a lie that Jimin has had voice cracks more than probably any other k-pop idol.
@@ihtes2236 he's not that bad tbh ofc there was times he had rasp voice and times his voice cracks actually every single person who sings live have these problem and its completely okay like it can happen but telling that jimin has lots of voice cracks than anyone of the kpop idol sounds kinda rude...like he's not always good doesn't mean that he's always bad. His voice is good and there are times he had delivered amazing live performance and its a fact. There are multiple times ppl appreciated his voices too
@@ihtes2236 more than any other idol. Literally bits is the only group to always have live performance and concert. So he has most voice cracks because he has most lives? Wow. You’re literally one of the id*outs who believe most idols do live in concerts when that it’s totally untrue lol. Not black pink not twice, not even exo in the past but yupp j, has the most. You stupid or sTupid
Jimin was sick that day. I think it’s fine to have a vocal crack, many other idols had them too and jimin is a very hardworking person who’s been doing many high notes and hard choreography for years. I think the idols on this video at least proved they sing live.
Not really, you can't always give the "he was sick" excuse. I can show probably 10 other performances where he also sounded extremely bad, had voice cracks & strained his voice but you'll say the same thing that he was sick. He clearly needs a better vocal technique and vocal lessons. You guys take it on your ego that omg no Jimin is the best singer, he doesn't need anything but this is all just ignorance. Other k-pop groups are straight up disliked for poor live vocals & bts members always get away with it except Jungkook, I've barely seen him mess up
@@mizuneko4201 Bruh if he sounded good that time doesn't mean he's a brilliant vocalist & never messes up. Are you really this dumb or what? If I say he messes up live performances I don't mean every performance bts has ever done smh. There are tons of videos of him being out of tune, if you don't believe me search it up. He can't be sick all the time can he?
Rose improved a lot, the clip was during her rookie days . Her performance with Chanyeol, Jihyo and 10cm in MAMA was so good. Lia is a good singer but she really seems nervous during the performance. Its also understandable that she might be exhausted too since it was a concert.
Rose actually had a cold and a sore throat that day. She was apparently gonna come out of the competition, but still participated cuz she wanted to. She took medication for it to sing that day. Also, she nailed the part live, this was in the behind the scenes. She seemed to have a problem reaching high notes in the behind the scenes. (But yes there r times she sings off-tune, but she has improved a lot) Also this particular performance of Jimin, he strained his voice after so many continuous concerts. And this led to his vocal cords not being stable. Thus why he was especially off-tune that day.
@@cylinaaaherrera Rose's video was from a behind the scenes of a singing competition/singing show. The name of the show is 'Fantastic Duo' of Season 2. The clip of Jimin singing was from an award show collaboration with Charlie Puth. Specify who you are talking about cuz idk who u were referring to. So, I just said the clips of both their performances.
@@cylinaaaherrera Bruh, this was a competition. It was the rehearsal backstage, when they are just trying to warm up. It is called "Fantastic Duo". She even passed the first round alongside BTOB's Sungjae.
Every singers are having their bad day. I'm a singer too and a musical theater actor, but I never criticized my fellow singers if ever they had mistake in a single performances. Because I know to myself that every singers are not perfect all the time. Even Mariah Carey had her own bad days in singing. It's just funny how these people who cannot sing at all, are brave enough to criticize these singers. Lol. If you cannot sing, and you are criticizing these idols, then it's the same thing as criticizing your own self even worse.
Jimin voice is now mentioned in top article and being called as healing voice....Jimin's Lie literally healed(help him being alive and concious) and ill man from coma and his family are thanking Jimin to this day...Jimin have the most successful solos..idk who these netizens are tbh [I think i pissed thousands different people just by prising Jimin.... anyway stay pissed 🥳 ]
“Fans” are so confusing…. when idols don’t perform enough they get annoyed when they perform too much they get worried when they lip sync they are fake when they sing live and make mistakes they don’t have skill How can someone improve when they don’t make mistakes and practice? Performing in front of an audience feels different from a training room I hope everyone remembers that and be kinder or at least funny when giving critique
"Always singing out of tune when she is singing duet with other idols" what ?? Her collab stage with Chanyeol x jihyo x10cm , Butterfly collab , duet with SHINee's Onew on sea of hope show rosé received nothing but praise for all of these duet/Collab stages. The clip showed here was from the backstage where idols were warming up their vocals . I agree rosé didn't sound good here but she did well in the actual performance and never went viral for the reason you showed.
Bro if jimin and Rosè have to improve more than Bye I'm killing myself... like seriously that guy's High notes are always on the point and that girl's vocals are so clean!!!! Edit: not always
@@yuwinswhippeddaughter6033 their voice is different and Sm idols have different voice I love Everyone's voice and I don't think anyone has to improve it
Jimin cleark does have to improve, he sounds really bad and his voice is breaking. He needs vocal lessons & a better technique. He is criticised a lot for his live performances. His high notes are very less on point, 90% of them time he's straining his voice which is bad for him & has voice cracks. He has the most voice cracks in bts
Rose was just warming up that's why the high note didn't go how she wanted in the performance she did good Lia was panicking and people sometimes have bad days plus just because she didn't sing perfectly that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the title of main vocal and she is the strongest in vocals in her group Jimin was sick that day but still performed and did the high note and honestly at the starting of the performance I didn't even notice his voice was cracking
Y’all act like everyone is perfect, these idols are actually good at singing, I don’t really Stan itzy so idk about lia but I’ve heard her sing and she’s not even bad, rosé and jimin are so talented idk what y’all are on saying “they have weak vocals” or “they cant sing”. Y’all let one clip determine if these idols can sing or not.
Jimin's voice is one of the most iconic voice out there wttfff edit: for everyone, going berserk in the comment section, listen here, I wrote this to say Jimin has very good voice if some day he isn't able to give his best doesn't make his vocals bad.. I was referring to this the people who were saying his vocal/vocal techniques aren't good so calm tf down
Such hypocrisy, they r talking about vocal techniques and not voice , if it were to be some other person u surely would have hated on them for not being a gud singer but for jimin u do something else
@Iduna no no i was referring to the initial comment, infact u understood the video and tried to console your idol but the initial comment straight up denied the fact that their idol or any human is not perfect and singers in a concert and get tired and mess up , but as fans we should accept that our idols r not perfect
I think Lia is the perfect main vocalist for ITZY Like I'm not a professional singer but I've performed in an opera and in the O2 arena(it's a place in London actually BLACKPINK performed there for their world tour) for something called Young Voices but when I'm singing in a large group/with someone else or alone I sing in tune and nicely but when I sing solo or Infront of people I sing very out of tune because I get very anxious around people So I think their could be a similar situation with Lia
I agree with you i also sang n front but in the school stage but i was really scared and my voice kinda cracked but it was okay cause lots of people thought that i was really young and it happens it also happened to my sis
Not gonna lie, jimin is indeed a man with powerful vocals and dance skills within the industry already. His song Lie required high notes as the chorus. Hard enough while dancing. And the collab with Charlie Puth? The production entered the wrongs keys. His voice is high pitched, which can go great with certain keys live. But if behind the scenes, he can exercise his vocals to fit the tune. And later, we were able to see how Jimin's voice can fit an instrument ( guitar) with his song promise. Even if BTS disbanded, they have a promising future in the industry. And for Lia, she was visibly trying hard not to panic. And for Rose, she's strong vocals and that was just a rehearsal. I hope they don't get bashed like they did before
@Acorn ur not gonnaa Understand!whatever if u don't know abt them just go and watch what ur into...we know the pain behind them nd we're not defending them! We are supporting them to be more successfull anf we know how to support others...
Rose just singing backstage before perform she is nervous but sungjae btob as her senior /sunbae help rose give one trick singing relax, and after that rose never failed
they had just finished their concerts from America to Europe to Saudi Arabia and back in Asia overall 24 concerts a year until the award shows. They lost their voice even in the middle of their concert tour. They could get tired. Yet they still put out that best MMA performance last 2018/19 despite that.
@@hiloejiragod8137 Jimin being the only member without any vocal training still can sing better than many idols if he hadn't suffered from throat condition. He has so thin delicate voice
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 boi we get it why you saying the same thing under every comment 💀 bad throat or not his vocals were still shit it’s not that hard to accept
You can't really deny, rosé's voice in that clip sounds terrible, you rosé stans should accept your idol's flaws, she isnt perfect she make mistakes, and that doesnt mean, people are jealous of her.
Not jealousy,but I guess they underestimated Rosé too much I mean I also can't deny that her 2018 performance was not the best in terms of vocals but maybe she also feel pressure because that year is the biggest year for BP that's the time when they're popularity really skyrocket,but I guess now she really improve her vocal skills either way no matter what people say to our Rosé voice I still comeback for her I know there's a lot of better vocalist than her but I always listen to her cover song and her album her voice is just taste like honey.
@@randomperson-ti2tg hey you can't say she is imperfect no one is perfect She is improving And if we are accepting our idols flaws then you should also try to accept that their singing is one of the best
Well he should improve himself then, shouldn't he? But to this day still he has a lot of voice cracks and messes up live performances. Its not once or twice or thrice but a hell lot of times.
@@ihtes2236 Go Watch the PTD concerts and come tell me to my face that he has voice cracks or he ain’t a good singer also overall he does get a lot of unnecessary hate y’all can give constructive criticise if you feel like he is lacking somewhere but constantly using that one clip from 2018 and acting like BTS have the shittest vocalist on this planet and that they can’t sing live is wrong
@@ihtes2236 wdfym Jimin hasn't had "a lot" of voice cracks since this performance nor did he messed up any recent live performances. You must've been replaying this in your head to remind yourself instead of seeing how he improved since then lol. He's an spectacular singer.
The Jimin one made me mad. It was one performance, and I think they even played the wrong instrumental or something, I don‘t clearly remember. That man is OVERWORKING himself on a daily basis and has so much talent and ability. You can’t be perfect EVERY day. This was not a good day for him. So what! That doesn‘t erase all of the times he sang absolutely amazing!
