Kramnik BEATING Fabiano in Titled Tuesday WITH EVAL BAR!! 

the thing he is complaining about is about editing it in while you stream. If Hikarus editors did it he could just pull up his own stream with an eval bar.

But, it's not in the stream. Do you even watch his stream ? Kramnik is basing it on a RU-vid uploaded video that is uploaded pretty quickly after streaming...but he is forgetting how fast and easy everything is nowadays.everyone is on 1gbit fiber and has hexacore + machines by default.

@@FlagimirKramnik The eval bar is active while he streams. This is a video which is completetly different.

@@luddz1574 you've never watched hikaru s streams did ya

I watch every hikaru's tt stream,there's never an eval bar in his stream lol stop the CAP​@@luddz1574

Imagine how manually he had to do it

it's actually easy to add eval bar, you just have to play same game with same time while watching the stream, then just cut the eval bar and put it on the original video, so simple

@@ismailc60 I already talked to the experts, not the statistiks experts, and this is not the case please think before posting or I'll be doing the procedure

@@Bai_Su_Zhen kitty!!!

Right? And he accused Hikaru and is doing it himself. What a clown 😂

I don't think the players see the eval bar

@@Techy_p We know that, you know that, Kramnik doesn't. We are trolling him.

​@@reav3rtm both of them are clowns and have cheated at some point of their careers

@@awesomechannel7713 Kramnik cheated? That's would be news. Unless you mean taxes or something.

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Not this time!

Rules dont apply to the maker!

it is an EDITED RE-UPLOAD FFS ... use your brain please ... done by 100s of content creators for years!

@@JohnKuhles1966 who is gonna tell this guy 💀

not possible even, would need a pararel universe to record both and put them together, why go to so much trouble when there is a simpler explanation, is clear to me now and it should be to you ifs smart

@@dafeac 100% agree, according to science he is cheating

Definitely cheating, lets do the procedure.

just keep in mind that most statements he has made are 100% correct- THE ONLY REASON why is is hated as much as he is right now, is because he called out hikaru on suspicions for cheating... One of his statements is that online chess has a massive problem with cheaters or something along those words, and he is absolutely right, nowadays especially in the lower rated side "below 2000" i cant go 10 games without facing a cheater. Most of his hate is coming from assuming a famous streamer/chessplayer is cheating in his games, and while even I think he is wrong on that part, i still respect on what he has to say for other things and him being a true G for calling them out.

He's one bad day away from being known as that disgraced GM who got sued by other GM's for false accusations leading to FIDE to remove his GM status as a way to save face .

@@TheNoobHamster I don’t think accusing a 13 year old of cheating is “100% correct”. Most of the things he says nowadays are wrong

@@TheNoobHamster You say most of his statements are 100% correct but then you give a single example of something that everyone agreed on even BEFORE he started his "crusade". So what exactly did he bring to the table to solve this problem? Instead of drawing attention to actual cheaters he's going after Hikaru, Jospem (who proved himself legit), Danya + others. Now he doesn't understand how easy it is to edit a video and calls that cheating.. Seems to me like he is actually helping cheaters by deflecting attention and usually just gets frustrated because he can't handle a mouse as well as other players.

​​@@TheNoobHamster that is the "only reason". In fact, it's not even the main reason people don't like Kramnik. The primary reason is he is a poor loser and jumps to report any player that beats him to save his ego. You can literally see the progression during his games when he starts losing he starts looking for reasons why his opponent's play is suspicious. "Strange move. He's playing very quickly. Time to do the procedure."

No they don't. Kramnik is valid to question how these processes behind the scenes (involving editors etc) could be exploited - now or in the future. How they remain unregulated within a dubious context of money and content-making (so there's motive). And how it's problematic within the new, changing, context of chess playing (i.e. online, corporate monopolies etc.) that they still remain unknown in their specifics.

@@telemahos2No Kramnik is not valid in anything this especially this new eval accusation -Kramnik accuses Hikaru of having the eval bar on stream even though he doesnt and its only on his videos. -Kramnik says such work will take a long time because other people said so, making him entirely uneducated in this regard and its either him or the people he asked are lying about the it. If Kramnik doesnt know how this works, maybe become educated on it and ask actual editors before accusations. Just like the statistics accusations, all he is doing is making his ignorance known and embarrassing himself

⁠@@telemahos2 Unregulated? People can edit their videos all they want and add million eval bars if they wish. There’s nothing to be regulated in that. Kramnik again knew nothing about the topic and jumped right to the false accusations without a second thought. He even begged the other top players to ”raise his voice against such a clear violation of rules”. Pathetic. He managed to prove that cheating could be possible by not showing the viewers the same view as he sees which shouldn’t be big news if he knew anything about live streaming. Instead of ”questioning” he decided to directly accuse again and it indeed backfired. Just pathetic.

@@telemahos2 Btw good job copy pasting your comment on every second comment. Hope someone pays you good for that hard work

@@aleksihiltunen7063 Are you intentionally thick?... "Unregulated" refers to online chess playing, the new development of chess, and not to editing videos!!.....

Okay, but you can disagree with someone respectfully too, right? No need to resort to name-calling

@@sciencecubicle no need to be nice to people making preposterous claims against all advice/knowledge of experts. shit like that is how we got maga

bro he's criticised like 3 people, stop the paragraphs. "incapable of treating any other human being with respect" LOL

@@xeffary7390 3????? are you sure?

Kramnik is valid to question how processes behind the scenes (involving editors, software etc) could be exploited - now or in the future. How they remain unregulated within a dubious context of money and content-making (so there's motive). And how it's problematic within the NEW, changing, context of chess playing (i.e. online, corporate monopolies, popular players, money-making etc.) that they still remain unknown in their specifics.

or pissing in the wind getting wet

He's so slooww bro

@@davidsantiago7808yeah you should beat him on time

@@Mnil52 I probably could apparently a lot of people are doing it. He's so washed up.

He would destroy you before you get the endgame​@@davidsantiago7808

But Hikaru with an editor can make it online with no cheating. So, I resume, everyone can

No it isn't. The eval bar was added by the video uploader.

@@JSSTyger that would take several weeks of work and is very hard to do. most likely he had it on his stream

​@@JSSTygerthat would be the joke

@@L-po8rxthat’s incredibly irresponsible to treat it like a joke when these are very serious accusations being made on kramnik

@@DeepfriedBeans4492 on or by?

He actually suffers from AS: ankylosing spondylitis which is a rare form of arthritis

@@bobesfanchi Oh wow I didn't know, thanks for the info. Google says it is more associated with the spine but sounds painful.

I think he said, he don't want to premove, because that's not how chess should be played...Or something like that.

i don't see how clicking twice could be the cause of a repeated stress injured, maybe he's old but still it shouldn't be a problem, if anything he just needs to have his arm in a good position or maybe buy a vertical mouse

From watching his videos, it seems like Levy also does this, no?

@@dgmullin1 clicking+clicking is actually by far the most reliable way to play. Watch and laugh how many times the "draggers" will mouseslip a piece by dropping it where they didn't intend to, or drag the wrong piece and drop it when trying to grab another one, usually resulting in cussing out the mouse (you know who I'm talking about ;)). Perhaps the only significant advantage to dragging is it is faster (and safer) in a time scramble. Kramnik, being quite old school and not even growing up with online blitz, doesn't really "do" time scrambles, if you know what I mean. Most of the guys you see dragging are going to be doing rapid mouse movements (even when they don't have to hurry), playing some form of blitz or bullet. There is also a (less relevant) argument that it's "more natural", which is why a lot of people may start out dragging and stay that way out of habit.

He's a bit from a different era. He does not pre-move, doesnt believe in it, somehow. Also, he probably played computer chess before mouse dragging was a thing, so maybe he just settled into click-click as the way you play on a computer.

As a human, not so much

Not really, he’s not in the same tier as Fischer, Kasparov, or Magnus

@@thebcwonder4850 he literally dethroned Kasparov what tf you are talking about

@@LordTommy21 that doesn’t make him a GOAT. Even as the WC, he was never the strongest player in the world

Literately a mid goat of chess dressed as a clown, not really worth of the respect a wc would receive

You do understand they have increment, right? They played last 20 moves with 2 seconds on their clock. Plus it was mate in the next move.

@@MrOpen2012 I’m aware. Vlad is in Russia, with a slower connection and has had some high-profile chokes under time pressure and Fabi had several futile checks he could have made in the hope of flagging. It is blitz with a few seconds. Perhaps this isn’t the best example for my point, but I generally find Fabi a solid sportsman in an increasingly unsportsmanlike climate.

@@growing9143 Ye, it's really not the best example for your point, but I agree with you about Fabi.

The guy who made the video added the evaluation bar. How dense are you?

@@andrejbogdanov2816 uhm thats unclear i think he might have had the eval bar on his stream as it would take several weeks of work to edit it in later

My guess is he just runs the game afterwards and times the moves with the video, then cuts the bar and splices it into the streamed board. That's how my tech ignorant self would do it. But there's probably a better way.

@@hitmanfcp1 what? nooo! it's DAYS OF WORK! believe me! I'm an expert and the one making Kramnik pay for it. so...

The only better way is probably spectating live chess and splicing the stream onto the video so it keeps Kramnik's mouse and just get the perfect frame edit.

​​@@yuuraiyeah. Record the actually game. Put the moves in and just play through it. Splice the two together. Eval bar takes time to adjust anyways so it looks natural.

How is dragging better than 2 clicks? How many ms are you wasting on a click?

I'm a perfectly sane, mentally sound adult. I click twice to be certain I don't accidentally move my piece to a square I didn't want it to be on. Mistakes like that can happen. I also have my pre-moves turned off because I play time controls where it isn't really necessary, and to force myself to consider a move before I make it. Do you consider me crazy?

Hikaru uploaded a video on youtube of his livestream with an eval bar. The eval bar was edited in and isn't a part of his livestream. Kramnik insisted that it is too hard to do that for some reason and insisted that it can indicate that Hikaru is cheating.

I would agree with you, except I think you are wrong. First, Kramnik was #2 behind Carlsen for years, and that was already beyond his prime. He was over 2800 in 2016, only the 2nd player in history over 2800. Today how many players can you count at that rating? And that's with rating inflation, as it keeps climbing. He's literally one of the chess GOATs. He retired and I don't think he has anything to prove. Second, Kramink has never had an issue losing to players he perceives as "good". If you ever watch any of his TT's, as I have a few, he is usually begging to play someone normal who plays OTB, like Carlsen, Caruana, etc. And he has no issue losing to them, and he is quite critical of his own play (and aware of his declining ability). So I think you are dead wrong in this assessment. The players he resents off the get-go are the relatively anonymous online-only types, which is where his trust issues come in and you can see he immediately starts to find their moves suspicious. Given that there actually are quite a few cheaters and you see guys getting banned all the time, presumably what he is experiencing is more like "delusion" where he starts to think more people are cheating than actually are. So while Kramnik can hold his own against the "classic" players who play OTB, especially in longer time formats, the new population of blitz specialists (with unimpressive classical ratings, but trained to find quick tricks and tactics) are a tough ask.

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This is pure speculation on your part. You're making up nonsensical reasons for why you think Kramnik is accusing others of cheating. This is something we cannot possibly know. I think the most likely explanation is that he just genuinely believes other GMs are cheating. Is his suspicion misguided? Yes, that seems to be the case. However, we can do better than imposing these ridiculous motivations like "he's unhappy nobody is talking about him" or "he can't accept that young players are improving faster than him" onto him

He was 2851 in July 1999

@@Vanhaomena No he wasn't, in that year and the years before top GMs had a rating of 2650+ maximum 2700+ which was very very high. I remember this. The 2851 rating is an estimated fictitious rating same thing with Fischer. The same thing with their IQ that was never measured.

@@carlmagnussen7773 Nothing fictitious about it: his official FIDE rating was 2851. It's not an estimation, he just got there with the results of his FIDE rated games.

By the way, his rating is still 2812, on this exact moment. World rank 2. He's just inactive. RU-vid seems to hate direct links, but FIDE ID 4100018 has a current, official, not estimated, rating of 2812.

@@Vanhaomena I know but it is incorrect.