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KSI vs Tommy Fury.. Why The Judges Got It WRONG 

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The tale of a negative fight.. KSI vs Tommy was one that answered a lot of questions, but left us with even more.
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@nachodiazgomez1539
@nachodiazgomez1539 11 месяцев назад
This truly is the worst case scenario IMO. KSI lost the fight, but not in a way that would humble him and motivate him to work on his flaws as a boxer. Tommy Fury won the fight, but got gone the distance by a RU-vidr much smaller that himself, so he has probably lost all respect from proper professional boxers. And the fans lost because it was a boring ass fight.
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
And the major issue that there is a fairly big outcry on the result, that doesn’t look good for Tommy. Having lots of people even say robbery, whether you agree or not, is telling people the fight was razor thin close, and that is an awful look if you want to be world champion
@Shooter__Mcgavin
@Shooter__Mcgavin 11 месяцев назад
Hard to fight when the opponent is ducking and hugging why is no one taking that aspect into consideration
@riczardgaming
@riczardgaming 11 месяцев назад
​@@Shooter__McgavinBecause if you're a pro, there are ways of avoiding the bullrush. Such as stepping back to avoid the clinch, taking advantage of KSI's wild overhand to deliver an uppercut under the offhand, being a bigger bully in the clinch, so many options that Tommy just didn't so
@Camjidi
@Camjidi 11 месяцев назад
@@Shooter__Mcgavinno it’s not. not when you’re supposed to be “world champion” level. even an average pro could’ve done 10x better. tommy was better in his fight against jake paul
@nachodiazgomez1539
@nachodiazgomez1539 11 месяцев назад
@@Shooter__Mcgavin Because Tommy is supposedly a pro boxer, and, as such, should be able to deal with those kind of situations. Not being able to makes him look really bad.
@gvarrr
@gvarrr 11 месяцев назад
It’s been funny seeing the bias from both sides. KSI fans thinking it was a robbery, sure you can think he won but it’s not a robbery. It was a close and messy fight which makes it hard to score, it could have gone either way. And then the pro boxing fans blaming KSI for the hug fest, I think Tommy is equally to blame. KSI had a game plan and executed that successfully, even if it’s messy to watch. Tommy as the pro should have had the capability to deal with it and prevent it, instead he fell into JJ’s traps. Also a lot of them defending the judges, IMO only one of those score cards made sense and that was from the guy who couldn’t add up basic math. And for those saying draw, although fair based on performance, it’s unlikely on the cards with a minus one. No interest in a rematch, Fury has been exposed twice now, let’s get him away from this scene and let his career die in pro boxing.
@ashbass8120
@ashbass8120 11 месяцев назад
It’s a robbery ksi looked like the pro boxer not tommy also the work in clinch so the judges clearly ain’t looking or scoring the work in the clinch so it’s a damn robbery everyone knows jj won tommy needs to retire he says he wants to be world champion and couldn’t even knock out two influencers couldn’t even knock out Anthony Taylor
@AstroSully
@AstroSully 11 месяцев назад
Finally a guy who’s rational. This fight was close no clear winner. But for KSI to step into the ring and make it hard on someone like Tommy who’s been boxing his entire life is admirable.
@lolbro6942
@lolbro6942 11 месяцев назад
​@ashbass8120 bro, KSI did NOT look like a pro boxer, what are you even saying? This whole fight was awful. Jake will steamroll KSI if they ever fight. No wonder KSI keeps ducking Jake.
@davidc.
@davidc. 11 месяцев назад
​@@ashbass8120 ksi did not look like a pro boxer. That wasn't his goal. He wanted to be so unorthodox and anti boxing tommy couldn't prepare for it
@johndb1218
@johndb1218 11 месяцев назад
it is a robbery, why is it that hard to score? isn't this their job? if the judges can't score right then leave the job to us
@thatoneguy3253
@thatoneguy3253 11 месяцев назад
Ksi rubbing the back of his head and crying about it like Ksi doesn’t do this to every opponent he faces is a joke.
@volforlife
@volforlife 11 месяцев назад
There is no way for a Fury/KSI 2 because I guarantee Tommy will be asking at least triple now that he thinks he's the top dog now
@SaucyPrince2024
@SaucyPrince2024 11 месяцев назад
If anything, he would ask for more rounds to negate any more clinches
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
I mean he is. He just beat the Nightmare, the guy who can see John Cena 🤡That don't make him A-side then idk
@xxjiosan2573
@xxjiosan2573 11 месяцев назад
I feel like this would of been avoided if they went 8 rounds.
@declan92100
@declan92100 11 месяцев назад
How has no one realised it could not have been a draw in a 6 round fight with 1 point deduction and no knock downs..And KSI is terrible, should have lost points for holding and was punching Tommy in the back of the head just as much. Ref seemed scared to say anything to KSI, he kept telling Tommy to stop holding when it was clearly KSI.
@enriquesauve1373
@enriquesauve1373 11 месяцев назад
check your math again
@declan92100
@declan92100 11 месяцев назад
@@enriquesauve1373 I don't need to, im aware it's 100% correct. No scorecard could be a draw. Please explain if you belive otherwise?
@nahhyourwrong
@nahhyourwrong 11 месяцев назад
Literally tallied up the amount of times they both initiated a clinch from round 1-5 since I couldn't find the full round 6 online, and it was a 6 clinch difference. KSI had initiated 22 times and Tommy initiated a clinch 16 times, Tommy being the one tangling KSI is arms up the most. Maybe if I saw round 6 the gap might have increased but I doubt it be a massive difference. People also don't get that KSI is fighting style requires him to stay on the ropes/outside so his reasoning for clinching is valid since he wouldn't be able to circle out to his left or right constantly AT ALL whereas Tommy could have easily done so but instead chose not too step back or circle. My point is they both clinched but one had a reason too while the other had multiple times where he didn't have too(Tommy). In other words they clinched hella times, because I didn't include the amount of times they both initiated a clinch at the sametime(both were planning or wanting to clinch)or where they both HAD to clinch. So if JJ should've gotten a point taken so shouldve of tommy because they both did enough clinching to be called excessive and were both warned multiple times. Tommy also missed most of his jabs and only landed 12 the whole fight, his right hand most of the last and beginning rounds bounced of jj is gloves or were evaded by jj with ease and in the clinch was outworked therefore gave him ring generalship for the two early rounds aswell as round 5. Tommy also wasn't able to start off his combinations as it all led off is jab which again was negated the whole fight since JJ blitzed either out of range or into range where he landed(most non-clean) overhand rights and initiated the clinch. Same with Tommy although he mirrored JJ but worse because everytime he would not land his double jab he would also result to a clinch and since JJ had a higher percentage of his punches landed he did better in that department. JJ again fought by the ropes and the outside but tommy once again landed nothing significant where as the stats that were just posted say jj landed more power shots in round 1/2 & 5 and also outlanded Tommy in all 3 of those rounds...So how the fuck does Tommy Fury Win when even the stats favor JJ winning. If the point wasnt deducted from fury it wouldve still counted as a draw since JJ won 3 rounds on the literal stats.
@kingmcclawson190
@kingmcclawson190 11 месяцев назад
perfect clinching take, also final round is pretty much the same and doesnt change much just to answer you question of final round clinching. but ye the clinch number is so much for both fighters yet so close together they both would of had points deducted so it would of been pointless , also the clinchs were active so i kind of get why the ref didnt want to break them.
@BenjaminDavisMusic
@BenjaminDavisMusic 11 месяцев назад
The fact that wade, round house, and Geordie have 3 different results and what rounds went to who...... just shows what being a judge in the moment and how hard it is looks like.
@jaydenellsmore-mm8db
@jaydenellsmore-mm8db 11 месяцев назад
No it shows which influencers have different preset opinions, Geordie is known for being biased and just outright outrageous opinions
@VivaRonaldo19
@VivaRonaldo19 11 месяцев назад
Leave geordie out of this. He is biased af.
@Xanninja
@Xanninja 11 месяцев назад
@hypekingzz102KSI lost round 5 won round 6 imo. Ring generalship doesn't negate the fact KSI hit a cleaner harder more damaging shot, twice in the round. And both exchanged/landed/hit nearly identical % of punches in the round. I can't be the only one thinking KSI took round 6.
@WishMount
@WishMount 11 месяцев назад
how dare you mention True Geordie in the same breathe as Wade and Roundhouse... HELLLLL NO
@BenjaminDavisMusic
@BenjaminDavisMusic 11 месяцев назад
@WishMount I even misspelled Geordie's name...oof.... but last time I checked, all three of these guys have had each other on their channels, so YES, I DO DARE SIR!!
@GaranSOI
@GaranSOI 11 месяцев назад
I’ve seen a lot of people say this fight was a draw. Forgetting about the scorecards I agree, there was no clear winner, no clear aggressor and neither guy did enough to cement a win. However looking at it from the scorecards, with a -1 to Fury a draw is highly unlikely with Fury winning if it’s 4-2 or KSI winning if it’s 3-3. With the minus we would have to have another round not be a 10-9 for a draw. There was no other 10-8 round here so you’d have to rely on the rare and discouraged 10-10 to get a draw.
@ninjamadedrake787
@ninjamadedrake787 11 месяцев назад
I kinda feel bad for the judges cause how can you even score that fight literally nothing eventful happened to sway 5 outta the 6 rounds
@Samtheman91
@Samtheman91 11 месяцев назад
doing jumping jacks then hugging the opponent doesn't win you rounds
@ttrrippyy7868
@ttrrippyy7868 11 месяцев назад
@@ninjamadedrake787 Facts, it would be a more accurate judgement if their was Odd Rounds
@philip7833
@philip7833 11 месяцев назад
Wasn't tommy the aggressor though. He kept walking KSI around the ring the entire night. The only reason he didn't throw more is because everytime he tried he would get clinched.
@U2vl9v0
@U2vl9v0 11 месяцев назад
Round 5 imo is the closest to a 10-10. If you give 1 and 2 to JJ and 3, 4, 6 to tommy, with 5 being a 10-10 and the point deduction that’s a draw. Other than that I don’t see how it’s a draw on the scoredards
@CountryKirby.
@CountryKirby. 11 месяцев назад
I just want KSI to actually learn how to box not scrap. He has the work ethic to be a decent boxer
@kakashihatake1029
@kakashihatake1029 11 месяцев назад
Sort of agree but tbh I think he's way more effective this way. Being a traditional textbook boxer would eliminate his uniqueness and allow opponents to read him better. Although yes he should implement things like the uppercut more. He has it but doesn't feel comfortable using it in tight fights. That can change. And it would defo benefit him
@laniswaray2220
@laniswaray2220 11 месяцев назад
There was no possible way he was gonna outbox Tommy tho scrapping was the way to go
@prestonkelly4825
@prestonkelly4825 11 месяцев назад
@@kakashihatake1029 if he stays with this competition but I thought he wanted to fight better people?
@kakashihatake1029
@kakashihatake1029 11 месяцев назад
@prestonkelly4825 well doesn't matter since he's retired again
@pill1154
@pill1154 11 месяцев назад
No he’s literally the worst boxer out of the big 4
@jetjonsulejmani1579
@jetjonsulejmani1579 11 месяцев назад
Jj is hiding its been 3 days and nothing from him😂maybe he left and well never see him again 🤣
@NoxMonstrum
@NoxMonstrum 11 месяцев назад
It felt like a draw honestly. Neither of them could really get one over on the other definitively.
@dapo7930
@dapo7930 11 месяцев назад
Perfectly agree however Tommy has been exposed by both Jake and Ksi
@nickwebb9937
@nickwebb9937 11 месяцев назад
All because ksi hugged tommy the whole fight. He didn’t box and showed zero skill. Tommy wasn’t able to outbox him.
@samm4084
@samm4084 11 месяцев назад
@@nickwebb9937 did u even watch the vid lol
@nickwebb9937
@nickwebb9937 11 месяцев назад
@@samm4084 it was hard for tommy to show his boxing skills when the other guy isn’t boxing.
@asifsiddique455
@asifsiddique455 11 месяцев назад
@@nickwebb9937He’s a pro boxer he’s meant to be able to deal with any kind of adversity, furthermore tommy knew what was coming and said it was gonna he an easy KO 😂
@pkouls23
@pkouls23 11 месяцев назад
Main event and co main as a spectacle was horrific. Although the rest of the card was great to watch, I feel like the poor showing of the two most anticipated fights might’ve ruined the care factor for influencer boxing from here on out. Jake Paul vs KSI or knowing Logan will get kod are the only pulls
@barry4649
@barry4649 11 месяцев назад
That’s going to be the only fight you see KSI in from here on out anyway so it makes no difference
@_azurejake
@_azurejake 11 месяцев назад
True and I'm not as excited about the KSI vs Jake fight anymore either because I bought into KSI saying "he's elevated his game, he's improved, he's built different, not the same guy" but he's still exactly the same and I guarantee he fights Jake the same way he did Tommy
@trigonthelitch7491
@trigonthelitch7491 11 месяцев назад
No it didn’t influencer boxing is here to stay there is a place for it there always was
@markiemark3005
@markiemark3005 11 месяцев назад
@@_azurejake his game plan will largely be the same but he does tailor his approach to the enemy like wade said so it wouldn't exactly the same
@swiftlessytvlogs5637
@swiftlessytvlogs5637 11 месяцев назад
@@_azurejaketo act like he’s not elevated his game is just absolutely silly, he’s unorthodox but that in no way means he hasn’t improved
@radrobloxchannel7318
@radrobloxchannel7318 11 месяцев назад
I am really surprised that ksi team and coach calculated really well on how to hide Tommys jab, which says a lot about every fight he fights.
@Yonel6969
@Yonel6969 11 месяцев назад
​@EverybodyHatesYuldsclearly not if you spam it in the comments
@XtoCee
@XtoCee 11 месяцев назад
All they did is cheat. How did they do well, clown?
@KooliebalioPep
@KooliebalioPep 11 месяцев назад
there a video spreading that these coaches are frauds
@88MetalMania
@88MetalMania 11 месяцев назад
Yes, jumping around like a idiot.
@harrisonfech9713
@harrisonfech9713 11 месяцев назад
His “calculated game plan” for Tommy’s jab was clinching non stop
@hypnoticsounds1040
@hypnoticsounds1040 11 месяцев назад
Did this guy just say Tommy was clinching more 🤦🏽‍♂️ paid by KSI
@Stammmer91
@Stammmer91 11 месяцев назад
-Faint with star jump stances -Step in with right hand -Clinch if it doesn’t work -Outwork him in the clinch -Reset That was KSIs game plan pretty much which almost worked
@Babysoup1
@Babysoup1 11 месяцев назад
Yes and a lot of people talk about it negatively. At least you acknowledge that it worked. People say that the reason he didn’t win is because of this style especially the clinch but just because they don’t think it’s entertaining doesn’t mean it’s not good boxing
@Stammmer91
@Stammmer91 11 месяцев назад
@@Babysoup1 I think this was probably the best method for him to win. It would be foolish to try and outbox a fury, having significantly less boxing experience
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
Except it led him to lose via uninamous decision. It didn't almost worked it definitely lost 🤣
@Stammmer91
@Stammmer91 11 месяцев назад
@@SammyPebbles He lost by one point.
@LND209
@LND209 11 месяцев назад
​@@Stammmer91Still lost. Lose by one point, or lose by one hundred. A loss is a loss.
@ahmedalaqeely500
@ahmedalaqeely500 11 месяцев назад
What a livestream it was, better than the actual commentary at the event 👀
@marksommers4179
@marksommers4179 11 месяцев назад
The commentary was terrible. Wade's commentary is far better than Grisham, Roundhouse, and Helwani.
@JudaThaBuda
@JudaThaBuda 11 месяцев назад
i had the commentary on mute and synced wade's stream to the fight, way better experience
@ahmedalaqeely500
@ahmedalaqeely500 11 месяцев назад
@@JudaThaBuda same bro
@harrisonfech9713
@harrisonfech9713 11 месяцев назад
The commentary was so biased towards KSI sucking him off non stop. I will never watch another misfits event just because of that and KSIs immature reaction after losing. Good thing I didn’t pay.
@NoName-ye9jw
@NoName-ye9jw 11 месяцев назад
​@@JudaThaBudaW
@chuyvega9603
@chuyvega9603 11 месяцев назад
I’d like to point out in a fight as close as this. Judges will always look toward the person that portrays a boxer better. KSI sure can confuse people but if he’s not finishing them or dominating then he’s not getting that judges decision. Edit: because some people don’t understand I’ll put more detail into it. Take an example I found on Reddit. The fight between Thor and Eddie the two strongest men on the planet. Both never been boxers but still did it because they wanted to beat the other. Thor the entire fight kept his hands up and used the fundamentals he learned. Eddie on the other side constantly had a hand down and went for big shots that gave him knockdowns. Unfortunately for him Thor was constantly getting the better of him. Always keeping his hands up and countering more frequently than Eddie. Ultimately giving Thor the unanimous decision because he not only portrayed a boxer better but he fought significantly smarter than Eddie.
@ScoobyYTP
@ScoobyYTP 11 месяцев назад
exactly, fury was the favourite in this fight and that aside, he is the traditional boxer. It makes sense that the judges preferred tommy to win this.
@XtoCee
@XtoCee 11 месяцев назад
It was nowhere near close. The fact that Tommy had a point deduction, and still won, tells everyone everything. Tommy whooped KSI’s ass. The bully got bullied.
@ZynicxzTKL
@ZynicxzTKL 11 месяцев назад
and thats why boxing is corrupted
@soulful999
@soulful999 11 месяцев назад
He didn't dominate Logan Paul and he won the Judges Decision then whenever Logan clearly looked like a better boxer. (At the Time)
@ScoobyYTP
@ScoobyYTP 11 месяцев назад
@@XtoCee ladies and gentlemen we have a tommy fan here. The fight should have been a draw or a ksi win because tommy acted like a plastic toy, he didnt do anything, he was very awkward and stiff. On the other hand, ksi was the starfish, his game plan worked in that it took away tommys traditional boxing ability. Tommy got humbled in that fight, he was an embarrasment, whereas the youtuber was amazing/
@vjtucker5146
@vjtucker5146 11 месяцев назад
I think the big issue is people are too fast to throw out the word “robbery.” You cannot have a close fight and a robbery. that’s a contradiction. I personally thought Tommy won, but I can understand that the fight was way closer than it should have been.
@Omar-kl3xp
@Omar-kl3xp 11 месяцев назад
A lot closer than a lot of people think ,I strsthought that it was a draw, neither of them did enough to win the match ,and the fight was overall quite shit with not many moments at all .
@dapo7930
@dapo7930 11 месяцев назад
Exactly I cannot lie I did initially say it was a robbery but now over time and listening to what others have to say I have changed my opinion to it was such a close fight that the decision could go both ways but I do believe it would be better off as a draw but some could say the same about Jake vs Tommys fight
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
I thought KSI won because I feel it’s undeniable he did actually win. One thing I have an issue with is when people say “it was close so not a robbery”, this makes no sense whatsoever. Every single point is the difference between winning and losing, between the robbery and the correct decision being made
@robbiemedica2652
@robbiemedica2652 11 месяцев назад
​@@mrhaz8939There were only two rounds that were 'undeniable' meaning basically everyone will agree on who won those rounds and that's round 1 for KSI, and round 3 for Tommy. There is basically nobody who would disagree with those rounds. Every single other round is up for at least some subjectivity and interpretation, ergo the result is not 'undeniable' and it is not a 'robbery' ipso facto.
@youuglyasl4842
@youuglyasl4842 11 месяцев назад
@bruhbruh8892how did ksi win, he was almost always clinching and threw the same overhand right consecutively for 6 rounds, he won round 1 and 2 (even without the deduction he won rd 2) and that was it, fury should’ve done far better and him cutting it this close with a boxer as low skill as ksi is embarrassing but he did win
@da0701
@da0701 11 месяцев назад
I watched the fight over 3x now. A couple constants and key reminders i feel are important is; 1: Tommy was allowed to control the pace, as JJ the entire fight seemed to accept the role of fighting on the backfoot to pull Fury into a shot. He rarely went forward himself and initiated his own pace. 2: JJ owned the clinch scenarios, he worked way more than Tommy did in the clinch. 3: both played the fainting game, trying to draw reactions and a lot of the time when they did go, they both went at the same time. Resulting in the fight being a bit of clinch fest. Constants: undoubtedly i feel KSI got RD1, and Tommy got RD3 and 4. KSI’s best round was the first, he landed the best shot, looked the most aggressive, focused, and determined. Tommy’s best round was the 3rd, he timed KSI almost perfectly, disrupted his patterns and looked the most aggressive in clinch scenarios. Something I don’t think he did enough in the fight. Rd 4 was similar, just not as perfectly executed as Rd 3. Rd 2 Tommy looked really good at the start, but when the point deduction occurred, he seemed to lose focus. And KSI who again owned most of the clinch work i think stole this round. Resulting in a 10-8 cause of the deduction. Round 5 was the opposite for me, where KSI started strong, but Tommy finished stronger. KSI looked the most dejected in this round. Round 6 Tommy looked the most dejecting and “fatigued.” With again a lot of clinching rather than working in there, he mainly complained. KSI did the opposite, and i think out of the two he went and got the last round. Which means i have KSI winning 57-56 solely based on the point deduction in rd 2. However, i agree with the sentiment that neither fighter deserved a victory, and a draw is reasonable to me for sure.
@krae2635
@krae2635 11 месяцев назад
I have no knowledge on the subject at all, so please let me know if I observed this correctly or if I'm way off base! After Tommy got that point deducted, it looked to me like a lot of the time when they were going into a clinch situation, he would keep his arms out a little bit and look at the ref waiting to see if he was going to break it up before he went into it and really started "clinching back". Could be my imagination, but that's what my untrained brain interpreted.
@orochi5919
@orochi5919 11 месяцев назад
How you have KSI winning?
@schilling2438
@schilling2438 11 месяцев назад
You watched this abomination 3 times?? Bruh you gotta find a hobby
@letsgoo4722
@letsgoo4722 11 месяцев назад
​@@orochi5919 Rd1 10/9 Rd2 10/8 Rd3 9/10 Rd4 9/10 Rd5 9/10 Rd6 10/9 57/56. So if Rd2 was scored a 10/10 (minus the 1 point, its 56/56) so at best a draw for tommy
@orochi5919
@orochi5919 11 месяцев назад
You know if there was a real ref on that ring he would easily warn KSI or DQ him.
@haxbagtrinity
@haxbagtrinity 11 месяцев назад
Didn’t his coaches tell him to clinch so he got hit in the back of the head more? Absolute joke glad KSI lost.
@Jman12187
@Jman12187 11 месяцев назад
This is a fight that felt like a draw or an edge to KSI watching it live, but going to the scoring, I was very sure KSI won the first two and either 5 or 6 so i was very confused and surprised that it went to Tommy. It just didnt feel like the correct decision. How the two judges scored the 2nd to Tommy is wild to me
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
Well said mate
@williamhook81
@williamhook81 11 месяцев назад
I'm a retired professional boxing judge. I scored this fight unanimously Tommy Fury. The reason Tommy Fury was trying to engage KSI never try to engage he was holding and judges hate that. Who the hell train him to fight like that. That's not fighting you will never win on a scorecard you will have to get a knockout to fight the way he does if you call that fighting. Every father always feels like he won if he's standing at the end of the fight
@godbyone
@godbyone 11 месяцев назад
Kai clenched the whole fight
@mas5517
@mas5517 11 месяцев назад
@@williamhook81 A retired judge in the comment section, stop the cap
@Alex-sg3yz
@Alex-sg3yz 11 месяцев назад
​@@mas5517whether he's a retired boxing judge or not he's correct 👌
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 11 месяцев назад
An epidemic we have in this scene is when influencers fight professionals is the constant clinching, Logan and Mayweather, Jake against Tommy, KSI vs Tommy, Antony Taylor when fighting both Idris and Tommy (although not as successful against Idris). It leads to very boring fights, that I think seem really close when first watched and it becomes clearer afterwards that these fights weren't as close as once thought. I know the reason they do it is because they know they are close to being knocked down, it's just not great for the sport.
@62ZAKA
@62ZAKA 11 месяцев назад
Honestly think that the jake ksi fight will be extremely similar to this one because ksi stlye can only produce two outcomes either a ko or a boring clinch fest
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 11 месяцев назад
@@62ZAKA I would not be suprised at all if that's what happens
@thatguy7187
@thatguy7187 11 месяцев назад
They don’t do it cuz they are scared to get knocked down they do it cuz they all lack inside fighting ability, Tommy fury included
@angelmaldonado5657
@angelmaldonado5657 11 месяцев назад
Shout out to deen and walid their fights always good
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 11 месяцев назад
@@thatguy7187 Logan, AT and Jake were definitely close to be knocked down. I'd agree they do all have issues with in fighting though.
@coreyf6090
@coreyf6090 11 месяцев назад
KSI's team are literally on mic in between rounds telling JJ to keep clinching to get Tommy to hit him in back of the head to get points deducted....JJ bounced around and didn't commit to action he stayed in the corner making Tommy have to come in or else the fight would have been even more boring, JJ threw one punch and clinched then cried about a punch to the head to get points deducted which now we know was the whole plan...Tommy got hit multiple times in the head even 5 times in a row at one point and not once cried to ref! KSI did not win this fight! his whole plan was to get points deducted and purposely cried to the ref to achieve this so no stop giving this clown credit.
@reviewforthetube6485
@reviewforthetube6485 11 месяцев назад
Watch it again ksi lost for sure. Not only that but he wasnt actually trying to box. You expect that to not count towards the scorecards? He came to clinch and throw in the clinch thats it. His gameplan was visible but this isn't mma.
@dillianwhyte443
@dillianwhyte443 11 месяцев назад
In a actual fight to mucu Clinching can be worth a point deduction. KSI os lucky the ref was nice.
@reviewforthetube6485
@reviewforthetube6485 11 месяцев назад
@dillianwhyte443 the ref was the one person paid off it was very visible.
@kakashihatake1029
@kakashihatake1029 11 месяцев назад
keep coping little ones.
@kevinnightmareszzz6140
@kevinnightmareszzz6140 11 месяцев назад
You mentioning that Tommy isn't improving, and as much as I root for him I think you are correct and to me it seems to be his greatest weekness. Even though his dad is entertaining and wants to be at his side during the training and the fight itself, Tommy really needs to find a coach that can really get to him to next level. Someone who can speak some sense to him and make him understand his bad habits like no one else can and force them out of him.
@mikeg6058
@mikeg6058 6 месяцев назад
Censorship is bad.
@Adventures0fJames
@Adventures0fJames 11 месяцев назад
Nah JJ lost. And he’s a punk for acting the way he did afterwards
@Reyskee
@Reyskee 11 месяцев назад
Too many KSI meat riders! These lot must like KSI more then Tommy! KSI hugged Tommy more then he has hugged his own father.
@Blasto313
@Blasto313 11 месяцев назад
Tommy won, KSI came to hug and his and his coaches game plan was to turn his head in the clinch so Tommy would get disqualified. Embarrassing. The people who actually got robbed were the people who actually paid for that trash 😂
@ethan35387
@ethan35387 21 день назад
Ksi came to hug but outlanded Tommy in half the rounds. Yeah makes sense
@holden9278
@holden9278 11 месяцев назад
KSI should've got a point deducted for all the excessive clinching he did his coach even said "you're up on all rounds, and he got a point deducted so stay in the clinch and he'll hit you in the back of the head again".. The commentary was so biased towards KSI i think it might've swayed people's opinion into thinking KSI got robbed cause that was the most biased commentary ive ever heard.. you can't claim robbery in a fight that close, and I don't want to hear anyone say you're biased against KSI again lol cause you had a slight bias for him in your livestream of the fight
@asifsiddique455
@asifsiddique455 11 месяцев назад
Clinching isn’t an offense if you fight in the clinch lil bro
@mrbodin
@mrbodin 11 месяцев назад
JJ had o bunch of hits on the back of Tommy’s head to and head butting in the clinch to. Fair win for Tommy
@holden9278
@holden9278 11 месяцев назад
@@asifsiddique455 I'm guessing you haven't watched boxing outside of influencer boxing cause you can absolutely get a point deducted for excessive clinching/holding even in situations like that
@holden9278
@holden9278 11 месяцев назад
@@mrbodin yeah if they took away a point from Tommy for shots to the back of the head they should've taken a point from from KSI too.. and I think Tommy won too it was close enough to where I could also see it being a draw at worst with the point deduction Tommy
@Nahcz
@Nahcz 11 месяцев назад
@@holden9278these people don’t understand
@HabibJackson
@HabibJackson 11 месяцев назад
Close fight = not a robbery, the only reason KSI would have won was because of a technicality, did we all have memory loss and forget the amount of back of the head shot he did to George last fight, Referee didn't even bat an eye. Ps. where was this "One Hit Knock out Power" from KSI.
@llckme747
@llckme747 11 месяцев назад
who the fuck is george? seems to me you have memory loss. ps. if someone truly has one hit knock out power then they’d be unstoppable. its chatter and trash talk.
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@uyt713 Backfired badly didn't it lol man pulled up in a lambo like he was all that then lost cried 🤣
@dboydl6603
@dboydl6603 11 месяцев назад
@uyt713what about that temper tantrum he threw at the end of the fight🤣🤣 literally kicking the stage as a 30 year old man😭😭
@michaelsilverdahl2175
@michaelsilverdahl2175 11 месяцев назад
The reaction to the decision is a perfect example of people who dont know boxing trying to score a boxing match. I dont blame them either, they arent fans of boxing theyre fans of KSI, and between thw crowd and insanely biased commentary i can understand how a casual viewer could cry robbery
@kregman6928
@kregman6928 11 месяцев назад
bruh, if you love boxing and know boxing then you dont score this fight as a win for tommy either. it is literally atrocious that the judges scored round 2 as tommy winning it. its like we didnt see the same fight at all. robbery might be a stretch but its not entirely wrong either for the situation. ksi did a bunch of nothing and tommy did a bunch of nothing. the only memorable thing that whole fight was ksi rocking tommy with that right hand. and somehow he lost that round.
@dillianwhyte443
@dillianwhyte443 11 месяцев назад
I heard one guy say KSI landed way more in the clinche so he should win😂😂😂.
@michaelsilverdahl2175
@michaelsilverdahl2175 11 месяцев назад
@kregman6928 round 2 was close, but ignoring that you said it yourself, KSI did nothing and Tommy did nothing. You can't cry robbery when you spent 3 months preparing and THAT was the best gameplan you could come up with
@kregman6928
@kregman6928 11 месяцев назад
@@michaelsilverdahl2175 I mean you can argue that at least ksi had a plan xD tommy just sucks balls. I do not believe round 2 was close to any capacity. I think 1 and 2 were the only 2 definitive rounds in the whole fight. but other than those 2 rounds. the fight was atrocious.
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839
@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 11 месяцев назад
@@michaelsilverdahl2175It ain’t a robbery but Tommy the so called “pro” boxer couldn’t put a RU-vidr on the canvas like he said he would lol instead of focusing on the RU-vidr you should focus on the “real” boxer who got exposed.😂
@miniozy
@miniozy 11 месяцев назад
Tommy won! No need for making KSI's fans more delusional with these type of videos
@Hybred
@Hybred 11 месяцев назад
Agreed with 99% of what you said. Theirs so many boxing fights where it was clearly a draw it was so close but ultimately someone is chosen as a winner, and it sucks for them. The only way to truly win a boxing match is to do noticeably better than your opponent, if you're doing the same or even just slightly better you risk losing the fight.
@Hybred
@Hybred 11 месяцев назад
@@Slick_777 I do agree it should've been JJ's fight at best and a draw at worse due to the point deduction, but if were being fair JJ hit the back of Tommy's head just as much and was never deducted or warned because Tommy didn't complain, so being fair would be taking a point off both, in which case I think the fight is Tommy's or a draw. If you only win because of a point deduction AND you were doing the same thing it's kind of sad. That's why I'm okay with this victory.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 11 месяцев назад
Tommy's biggest issue is he overcrowded himself, he can never get off full extension shots, which is compounded when facing someone like KSI who is moving on the inside really quick, it gives Tommy so little time to land a punch as he is also moving towards the inside. Tommy needs to get out of this habit, it makes sense when all his family has longer reaches than himself, that he goes to the inside, but he's fighting guys with shorter reaches, it just leads to him overcrowding and those back of the head shots, which would be legitimate hooks if he was fighting someone with a 84 - 85 inch reach, are not when it's someone who's reach is in 70s.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 11 месяцев назад
@EverybodyHatesYulds go away
@williamhook81
@williamhook81 11 месяцев назад
JS I need to get a real boxing trainer. Because he is not ever going to win on the scorecards. He would have to get a knockout to win. All he does is hold his opponent to keep from getting hurt. Judges hate that you will never win a fight. I don't believe nobody else is going by no more pay-per-views 4 KSI
@MainooFan
@MainooFan 11 месяцев назад
It doesn’t matter who you believe won, but it wasn’t a robbery whatsoever. It was an absolutely terrible fight and it was that close because neither fighter done anything significant that it was going to be extremely close either way I thought it was a draw but can’t complain either he judges giving it to either fighter
@knead4speed
@knead4speed 11 месяцев назад
I can’t speak for everyone, but I know I’ve called it a robbery in passing in the sense that JJ was robbed of a moment. It’s hard to call this fight for Tommy, and yet somehow all three did? And two of them gave round 2 to Tommy?! I just feel like JJ was robbed of a draw or a slight win and what that would have felt like for every fan of influencer boxing and him after so much doubt about JJ’s skill, but it’s not a robbery in the sense that he steam rolled tommy.
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
It was a robbery if you believe it wasn’t the correct decision, no matter how close, every single point matters
@williamhook81
@williamhook81 11 месяцев назад
KSI would have been disqualified in the first round. In an amateur fight. Because the referee will make you engaged instead of holding to keep from getting hurt. That's the reason you hold
@williamhook81
@williamhook81 11 месяцев назад
That's the end of Misfits boxing. Thank you KSI. Only a nutjob would buy pay-per-view from them now. It is one-and-done. Guaranteed
@kingmcclawson190
@kingmcclawson190 11 месяцев назад
@@williamhook81 he wouldnt because hes unorthadox but ok☠
@tristram0073
@tristram0073 11 месяцев назад
I had it as a tie. R1: 10-9 KSI R2: 10-8 KSI R3: 10-9 Tommy R4: 10-9 Tommy R5: 10-9 Tommy R6: 10-10 draw Total 57-57 draw
@Ceemoney827
@Ceemoney827 11 месяцев назад
Your just a ksi fan girl who don’t want him to lose but from someone who knows boxing for over 12 years here’s this for ya R1: 10-9 ksi R2: 9-9 even R3: 10-9 Tommy but it was close R4: 10-9 Tommy R5: 10-9 Tommy bc ksi only landed 6 out of the 25 he threw and Tommy landed 12 out of the 26 he threw. R6: 10-9 Tommy bc he landed 21 out of the 31 he threw and ksi landed 11 out of the 28 he threw.
@fgea234
@fgea234 11 месяцев назад
@@Ceemoney827 Ksi won round 2 he landed the bigger shots and out landed tommy in that round
@NeziriO1
@NeziriO1 11 месяцев назад
@@Ceemoney827I promise you no one cares about your opinion, 12 years or not
@sarangshinde5490
@sarangshinde5490 11 месяцев назад
​@@Ceemoney827your just sad hater cry harder , ksi won get mad baby 🍼.
@abirneji
@abirneji 11 месяцев назад
@@Ceemoney827 for someone this condescending you sure did cope a lot to explain the last 2 rounds
@christ4200
@christ4200 11 месяцев назад
Judges scorecards were right Tommy deserved to win, obviously ksi didnt get robbed
@TheKustms
@TheKustms 11 месяцев назад
Genuinely one of the worst fights I’ve ever watched. Nothing jake has done has come even close to as unwatchable as that. Jake vs Woodley 2 was shaping up to look like that but Jake ended that with the best knockout in this scene’s history. This was honestly an embarrassment for the sport!
@lidaaletap2646
@lidaaletap2646 11 месяцев назад
Two judges scored R2 for TF, and two judges scored R5/R6 for JJ, if they scored R2 for JJ (the round he CLEARLY won, idk wtf the judges saw), JJ would have won
@joey-desu
@joey-desu 11 месяцев назад
yes round 2 was clearly jj´s and everyone agrees on that except those 2 judges, while r 5/6 were very even and could of gone to either so the judges giving him one of those also makes sense.
@marksommers4179
@marksommers4179 11 месяцев назад
KSI didn't "CLEARLY" win any round. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.
@lidaaletap2646
@lidaaletap2646 11 месяцев назад
​@@marksommers4179He didn't clearly win any round??? Round 1?? Round 2?? What fight were you watching?
@MrLampes
@MrLampes 11 месяцев назад
@@lidaaletap2646 he won 1st but not really sure about 2nd.
@lidaaletap2646
@lidaaletap2646 11 месяцев назад
​​​​​​@@MrLampesWhat shots did Tommy land??? He landed two right hands at the start of the round that JJ rolled with, and maybe a jab? JJ landed multiple right hands, did good inside work, outlanded TF, and landed more powerful, and effective shots throughout the whole round tell me how Tommy won round 2? JJ easily won the first 2 rounds. It's R5-6 that gets dicey
@jmoney4220
@jmoney4220 11 месяцев назад
You’re better than this Wade. That wasn’t the wrong decision at all
@DatboiJAKOB
@DatboiJAKOB 11 месяцев назад
Why's that
@thewizard1847
@thewizard1847 11 месяцев назад
this channel is the reason i’m interested in influencer boxing. Thank you for covering this from an unbiased POV.
@kazk7
@kazk7 11 месяцев назад
What a waste of time and money
@hossainayon9588
@hossainayon9588 11 месяцев назад
ksi lost and yet tomy fury had a bad performance
@Rdnporta48
@Rdnporta48 11 месяцев назад
Let’s go I have been so excited for the breakdown on the KSI vs Fury fight
@samswag777
@samswag777 11 месяцев назад
Tommy won every round after the second according to verdict and I must agree but either way it’s impressive for ksi to go the distance with a “professional” boxer.
@binmanbinman
@binmanbinman 11 месяцев назад
He didn’t win round 5
@LORDBR69
@LORDBR69 11 месяцев назад
1 2 and 5 went to KSI and plus the deducted point
@zach_round
@zach_round 11 месяцев назад
Round 6 could go to JJ as well
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@binmanbinman Except he did lol
@WizardofAus97
@WizardofAus97 11 месяцев назад
@@binmanbinmanwhat is your knowledge or experience or credentials to claim that?
@holford98
@holford98 11 месяцев назад
Ksi clams to be a boxer!!! What he does ain’t boxing!!! How could anyone give him the win in a boxing match when he didn’t box???
@nathanr7599
@nathanr7599 11 месяцев назад
I feel bad for Ksi. Yes it is completely on him that he chose shoot fighters but his coaches are HORRIBLE
@dapo7930
@dapo7930 11 месяцев назад
Nah they aren't they are amazing coaches it was just the fight that was so close that the decision could of gone either way overall I believe the fight was a draw
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@dapo7930 It was a unanimous decision. Wasn't close at all
@kingmcclawson190
@kingmcclawson190 11 месяцев назад
@@SammyPebbles clearly was close considering most credible sources being fighters , boxing youtubers like wade or even ksi haters(other influencers i mean) , either say it was a draw or a ksi win.
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@kingmcclawson190 "Draw or a KSI win" mfs wit youtube channel can't even pick one when the actual judges said Fury won and won unanimously ffs 🤣 "credible sources" gtfoh
@BlueGDebates
@BlueGDebates 11 месяцев назад
@@SammyPebbles Bro he lost by one point its still close
@theuchiha7
@theuchiha7 11 месяцев назад
At the end of the day tommy fury ain’t a boxer 🤣🤣🤣
@Cjust15
@Cjust15 11 месяцев назад
Not Tommy’s greatest performance but judges got it right in my opinion. I do think Tommy did fight too much with the desire to ko KSI rather than stick to what he’s naturally better at which is stick and move essentially granted when fighting another wild version of Anthony Taylor it’s hard to get off the shots you’re looking for when your opponent is hugging most of the time . KSI also threw way more shots in the back of the head and not one point was deducted. There were plenty of opportunities for Tommy to uppercut but again he got the win in an event that was pro ksi. Main event wasn’t great but I guarantee you if KSI wasn’t holding so much this fight would’ve gone differently.
@ObviouslyJosh420
@ObviouslyJosh420 2 месяца назад
tommy initiated a lot of the hugs too btw, also ksi definitely did not hit the back of the head way more , tommy landed significantly more shots than ksi to the back of the head, also for the "he got the win in an even that was pro ksi" is a dumb sentence as the judges arent pro ksi as the PBA (which is a very bad and judges and scores rounds terrible for example the sensei vs kenny fight) hate influencer boxing and would do whatever they can to protect "real" boxing
@allusivestorm762
@allusivestorm762 11 месяцев назад
23:50 “Ik KSI doesn’t like moral victories 🤓” The whole purpose of this fight was to get a moral victory over jake
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@tsgrapiidz6970 "I did better than expected-" you know when you're looking for silver linings like this the coping is getting bad 🤣
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@tsgrapiidz6970 good he really shoudlnt lmfao 🤣
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
@@tsgrapiidz6970 Except he shouldn't because he didl lose badly. He lost a goddamn unanimous decision after coming out in a lambo to his own song at his own even to just lose 🤣But at least he took the loss really well and maturely don't you think? 🙃
@SammyPebbles
@SammyPebbles 11 месяцев назад
​@@tsgrapiidz6970 He did get dominated. That's why not a single judge gave it to him and he lost via unanimous fucking decision 😆 but sure, these kids with money on KSI who think they know what they're talking about know better than the judges 🤡
@adfjnaflkadfmasdfaadf
@adfjnaflkadfmasdfaadf 10 месяцев назад
real talk ksi needed a point deduction from the fight he was warned by the ref to stop clinching and then did it right after, He should've got points taken
@joey-desu
@joey-desu 11 месяцев назад
I hate how people complain about this fight being boring, ksi went into the fight with the mindset of winning no matter what, ofc the strategy he chose wont be the most fun to watch but it will be the most effective and cleary it was effective enough to almost win/get a close descision loss. Ksi vs tommy was never meant to be entertaining, it was all for jj to one up jake, the fights prior were meant to be more entertaining but due to dillon fighting the way he fought that was also kinda boring.
@youuglyasl4842
@youuglyasl4842 11 месяцев назад
It was literally the main event it was probably what people expected the most amount of entertainment and boxing out of yet most thought slim v salt papi was better than this clinch fest which I don’t think anyone can argue against, people came for boxing and entertainment and they got a snooze fest clinch fight 💀
@Ignornaceisntbliss
@Ignornaceisntbliss 11 месяцев назад
When both men are claiming to knock each others heads off, and it turns into a clinch fest, of course people are gonna be furious, especially those who paid. It's like ordering an apple watch on ebay and when you get it it's an apple with one of those kiddy watches wrapped around it, wouldn't you be pissed?
@OG-512
@OG-512 11 месяцев назад
@Anthony-hy8zx​​⁠No, KSI was never gonna box Tommy. He was always going to fight Tommy which he did. He out worked Tommy in the clinch nearly every time.
@Nihilist101
@Nihilist101 11 месяцев назад
@@OG-512that wasn’t even fighting. He didn’t swarm him or anything
@benaronow227
@benaronow227 11 месяцев назад
It was a very boring fight and people who paid for it have the right to complain
@knead4speed
@knead4speed 11 месяцев назад
On so many misfits events people have been talking about working in the clinch rather than just hugging- and that’s what JJ did. I feel like so many people expected JJ to suddenly be an orthodox fighter. He isn’t, and he was never going to box Tommy like jake did… ETA: I think this fight shows how smart JJ and his team were, and how little Tommy thought of JJ. Tommy’s lucky Viddal has better things to do
@abdull1574
@abdull1574 11 месяцев назад
ksi survived thats it
@youuglyasl4842
@youuglyasl4842 11 месяцев назад
He fought better against jake and that says enough, if he would have used the jab like his fucking team kept telling him to from round 1 ksi would’ve been tko or atleast knocked down by round 4 or 5, Tommy is not a good boxer but he’s not bad either he just wasn’t boxing right that night
@Rawmaney
@Rawmaney 11 месяцев назад
@@youuglyasl4842he couldn’t find his jab for the first 3 rounds…KSI being awkward threw off Tommy’s range
@youuglyasl4842
@youuglyasl4842 11 месяцев назад
@@Rawmaney I don’t think he really found it at all, he only started using it in round 3 and caught him with a couple but he didn’t use it to its full potential and I’d argue it was his best weapon that I think cost him a more clear definitive win
@xx.jahseh.x2050
@xx.jahseh.x2050 11 месяцев назад
A couple times. The other 33 odd times were for nothing and because his corner said clinch because tommy had no choice but to hit his head and his coach would rather him die instead of losing 😂
@si2five863
@si2five863 11 месяцев назад
Wade got paid for saying this. He knows Jake did better than Ksi, doesn’t make sense how would it would be a draw when clearly Ksi wasn’t landing and Tommy had more significant hits. Ksi had weak hits
@ryan_cl6459
@ryan_cl6459 11 месяцев назад
Right… Throw baseless accusations without actually arguing against any of the points he made in the video.
@si2five863
@si2five863 11 месяцев назад
@@ryan_cl6459 Ksi was jumping around tryna look cool n show off to his lil fangirls when I’m reality he sucks. He was basically tryna survive the rounds without looking dumb takin hits
@ethan35387
@ethan35387 21 день назад
Ksi outlanded Tommy in 3 rounds
@ethan35387
@ethan35387 21 день назад
​@@si2five863and this narrative that Ksi didn't come to fight. Tommy was mocking ksis style going into the fight. So to act as if it was a shock and Tommy couldn't possibly knock Ksi out like this is laughable.
@alessiogrossi4526
@alessiogrossi4526 11 месяцев назад
Not a robbery at all. Both fighters were horrific. Could've been a Tommy win, a draw or a ksi win, terrible fight to score. It's time we have a talk about KSI's skill, because his last 2 fights he has shown absolutely nothing great. Yes Jake lost more decisively but stole a couple rounds and actually tried to outbox Tommy and had some really good moments. (Also an absolute disgrace that Ksi's corner told him to clinch to get Tommy to punch him in the back of the head). KSI needs to go back to a drawing board.
@xxDubZeroxx
@xxDubZeroxx 11 месяцев назад
Jake put Tommy on his ass so 🤷🏽‍♂️ I guess we see who has more power between jake and ksi
@nicholaspope6834
@nicholaspope6834 11 месяцев назад
@@xxDubZeroxxno we definitely don’t because when Jake hit Tommy he was off balance and immediately got back up. So you can’t really say Jake definitely has more power imo
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
Imagine still trying to talk about his skill when he clearly just beat Tommy Fury, the so called professional boxer. Some people are just acting dumb I swear
@T_money808
@T_money808 11 месяцев назад
@@nicholaspope6834imo you can because Jake has consistently KD’d all his opponents and had a few KO’s.
@robbiemedica2652
@robbiemedica2652 11 месяцев назад
​@@mrhaz8939He didn't 'clearly' beat anyone, and his strategy literally wouldn't have worked with a different ref who might've deducted a point from (or even disqualified) him, so yes, his lack of skill is still a factor. Literally everything aligned perfectly to make this strategy even slightly work for him, but he had no plan B, because he is not a skilled boxer.
@30ynot
@30ynot 11 месяцев назад
I would disagree with Wade’s take. First of all, Tommy IS ahead of these boxers as far as actual boxing skills go. The only reason this boxing match was as close as it was because KSI was very akward and unorthodox. Had Tommy performed better or he he been a bot more experienced, KSI tactics would not have been suscessfull at all. Tommy won, KSI lost. A rematch would have been bad for KSI.
@johnscustomsaws
@johnscustomsaws 11 месяцев назад
The UFC actually won that night... Tommy/KSI and Logan/Danis fights were absolutely terrible 💯 sorry Wade but lotta peopld wont watch influencer boxing after that mess... it was never exciting and the clinch-fest in the main was so frustrating to watch... many people turned to UFC fight night after and saw Barboza fight his ass off!!! Even the worst fight on the UFC card was 100 times better than those 2 fights... still love ur channel my guy... aint your fault but Tommy apparently can't box cuz KSI spammed the SAME move over and over again... I truly do NOT understand how Tommy being a "pro boxer" couldn't expose him for it... just doesnt make sense... Logan and KSI both had terrible opponents that killed the card... they really need better match making if they want people to tune in next time... and I totally get that they killed it on PPV buys... but not performing up to the hype is a bad look 💯
@Lakersfan-pq5ui
@Lakersfan-pq5ui 11 месяцев назад
KSI lost by a mile. The fight really wasn’t that close. Tommy was the aggressor and initiated almost every exchange. KSI constantly clinching negated Tommy’s ability to land successfully on a lot of exchanges but he had no output at all. I don’t get these punch stats KSIs sloppy jab and overhand did not land a lot so most must’ve been from the clinch. It was clear Tommy was the aggressor, more willing to exchange, and landed the cleaner punches. KSIs game plan was to make the match a stalemate not actually be effective offensively but it backfired.
@BlissifiedHH
@BlissifiedHH 11 месяцев назад
The only big complaint i had about KSI in this fight is that he only used his right hand. I dont remember seeing a left power punch thrown by KSI
@JLW2004
@JLW2004 11 месяцев назад
Same but it’s what his trainer told him to do
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I thought he had a decent left hook, I wonder why that wasn’t in the game plan
@kingmcclawson190
@kingmcclawson190 11 месяцев назад
@@mrhaz8939 he constantly used his left as a gauge and a "dont come near here" to tommy, if he changed to his left he probably would of had to close the gap and tommy would of eaten him up with his jab.
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
@@kingmcclawson190 Very good point, the left was manufactured into the range dictator so that Tommy would find it hard to land the jab, pretty good tactic by KSI I’ll give him that
@bayly1977
@bayly1977 11 месяцев назад
That’s a huge complaint but valid
@rafaelrango
@rafaelrango 11 месяцев назад
I scored it for KSI, 57-56. It was a close fight, so I can’t call it a “robbery,” & I’m fine with the decision. But, I give KSI all the credit. He’s a part time boxer who gave a pro boxer, who’s been boxing all of his life, problems. Any boxing fan that has seen Tommy fight, knows he is a low level pro at best. No matter what he says & no matter what his name is, he is not much better than the best influencer boxers. I have no problems with Tommy getting the win due to how close it was, but it’s just disappointing because KSI made Tommy so uncomfortable by dictating the style & pace, so I feel like he deserved the win more. But, that’s where Tommy’s experience paid off. And I do give him credit for having the worst performance of his career, fighting a different style, & still making it close to the point he got the unanimous win. I don’t agree, but that’s boxing. Close fights are hard to judge. The good thing is that everything is in line for Jake Paul vs KSI. Jake loses a split decision to Tommy but still knocked him down in the last round.. KSI loses a unanimous decision to Tommy but still made him have the worst performance of his career.. It’s time. I got KSI 🥊
@robertmclean8358
@robertmclean8358 11 месяцев назад
25 minutes to talk about a horrible fight where you are completely biased.
@OGTwist
@OGTwist 11 месяцев назад
Jj lost bro lets be honest
@spezmondjames
@spezmondjames 11 месяцев назад
Ksi wudda got more respect if he actually boxed n got KO’d in 2 rounds. Instead he ran n hugged
@designingtheenemy5869
@designingtheenemy5869 11 месяцев назад
Its hard to tell how good people are when a person comes to hug. I could survive mayweather for 6 rounds if I was able to grab a hold of him that much and I guess that would mean mayweather sucks.
@BronzyTheRelic
@BronzyTheRelic 11 месяцев назад
That’s not entirely true. Good boxers are able to work inside the clinch. Tommy Fury just isn’t a good boxer. Mayweather wouldn’t have a problem in this scenario
@designingtheenemy5869
@designingtheenemy5869 11 месяцев назад
@@BronzyTheRelic oh if i was allowed to grab over and over with no point deduction like the ref allowed ksi i could definitely survive 6 rounds with Floyd and I'm not a pro. In your logic that would mean he's not good.
@BronzyTheRelic
@BronzyTheRelic 11 месяцев назад
@@designingtheenemy5869 again, not true.. firstly, my logic wouldn’t imply KSI is good, because he also didn’t necessarily work the clinch.. just because I said Tommy fury isn’t a good boxer, doesn’t mean I think KSI is.. secondly pro boxers are literally trained to throw uppercuts and move outside of the clinch.. just like the clinch can also be used as an offensive mechanism by applying weight to disrupt the opponent’s rhythm and exhaust them.
@designingtheenemy5869
@designingtheenemy5869 11 месяцев назад
@@BronzyTheRelic in most boxing matches the ref does not allow that much grabbing without a point deduction. They took a point away from tommy though. Again, if I had the ref ksi had and was allowed to grab that much I'd easily survive floyd and I'm not pro. I'm not saying tommy is really good, I'm just explaining that it's hard to tell how good someone is at boxing when a person comes to grab with a ref that's going to allow it.
@BronzyTheRelic
@BronzyTheRelic 11 месяцев назад
@@designingtheenemy5869 I get your point about deducting a point. My point however is that the KSI vs Tommy Fury fight revealed just how bad of a professional boxer Tommy Fury is. Yes refs should stop clinching, but a well trained boxer is able to utilise skills to work the clinch.. slipping, uppercuts etc. The fact is you wouldn’t survive Mayweather.. no matter how much you clinch, because he is obviously a very talented boxer.. Tommy Fury on the other hand is not
@WayneKo
@WayneKo 11 месяцев назад
Lmao hugging is finding out who what’s to fight? Why are all you guys giving KSI and free hand job ALL he did was hug and when every Tommy closed the distance KSI hugged some more and the official never stepped in once and said stop hold all the time never almost makes u think the official was bias.
@arza8162
@arza8162 11 месяцев назад
Im sure if anyone else on Misfits fought like JJ did. They wouldnt get a call back. We all know that fight wasn’t entertaining.
@williamhook81
@williamhook81 11 месяцев назад
I'm a retired professional boxing judge for 35 years I'm retired. KSI lost this fight unanimously. Because he never engaged 2 Box. We judges absolutely hate holding because you don't want to get hurt. And that's what was going on here. I watch this fight and I scored this Friday at home. Game scores is the judge came up with. 57 Fury 56 KSI across-the-board.
@IsaiahJacott
@IsaiahJacott 11 месяцев назад
😂😂
@xatime2833
@xatime2833 11 месяцев назад
​@@tsgrapiidz6970that's when you know he's just capping lmaooo. Like atleast if u want to lie online, why not provide a source to make to seem more convincing?
@JBtheWeightlifter
@JBtheWeightlifter 11 месяцев назад
Awesome
@Vaiz15
@Vaiz15 11 месяцев назад
Ksi won that shet show
@mcaslam4756
@mcaslam4756 11 месяцев назад
TOmmy won 3,4,5,6
@vincents7845
@vincents7845 11 месяцев назад
Ksi won the hugging contest by ud hands down
@al2577891
@al2577891 11 месяцев назад
Ksi didn't engage and stalled with clinching. Boxing is mid-short range hand-to-hand combat. Ksi didn't engage in these two ranges, he was outside and clincing. With real championship pro-boxing referee like Kenny Bayless, Ksi would have been deducted a point for not engaging and stalling for each round. Tommy Fury won easy in boxing rules, if the match would been MMA rules Ksi could won. They should do Bare Knuckle boxing rules, so they can clinch and there would be no complaining.
@giacalonebuilding4443
@giacalonebuilding4443 11 месяцев назад
Imo Tommy clearly won 3/4/5/6 pretty convincingly. That said he should be embarrassed for losing an exchange let alone 2 rounds to a hobby fighter
@dongerop6893
@dongerop6893 11 месяцев назад
You can argue that this was a draw, but if there is a definitive winner, surely it's not Timmy
@danielbaker1510
@danielbaker1510 11 месяцев назад
couldnt be a draw based on the point deduction keep up buddy, also ksi baiting out back of the head shots is soft af he loses in the court of public opinion based on that, unless youre a child at least
@xxchanchanxx1
@xxchanchanxx1 11 месяцев назад
When I scored it I had 57-56 Tommy, watched it over 3 times now and my opinion has stayed the same. It’s either a draw or Tommy wins, I see no world where KSI wins imo. Granted I also believe KSI should’ve lost points for holding
@muneebelahi9270
@muneebelahi9270 11 месяцев назад
You literally said the opposite of what's true. There's no way you can give jj this fight despite the point deduction, scorecards were messed up but the right man won Rounds 1-2 KSI 3-6 tommy Only way to score it
@Lakersfan-pq5ui
@Lakersfan-pq5ui 11 месяцев назад
Tommy won easily. KSIs dumb game plan backfired and he looked awful. Judges don’t care that he’s a “RU-vidr” it’s a fight and he did nothing to showcase that he deserved the win. Holding somebody for an entire fight so they can’t piece you up is dumb as hell and he needed that L
@thewhutnow5795
@thewhutnow5795 11 месяцев назад
@@danielbaker1510 clearly you know nothing about boxing if your argument has to be something to do with being "soft af", grow up lil bro
@HamiV
@HamiV 11 месяцев назад
I may be biased but I would have to say that KSI won 1,2,6 and therfore winning 57-56 due to the r2 point deduction
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
Spot on
@youuglyasl4842
@youuglyasl4842 11 месяцев назад
Not sure why ksi fans keep giving him round 6 as he threw more yet landed less that round, Tommy hit more shots and was pushing the pace he defo won round 6
@WizardofAus97
@WizardofAus97 11 месяцев назад
I thought Tommy won round 6
@mrhaz8939
@mrhaz8939 11 месяцев назад
@@youuglyasl4842 If we apply your logic then KSI won round 5 due to more shots landed, especially power punches. But if we use the “clean punches” logic, then KSI won round 6. One straight right to the head, one straight right to the body, one overhand right, two stiff jabs to the face and one stiff jab to the body were all his clean shots, more clean shots than Tommy in that round, the logic sort of overlaps itself both ways
@cripbk2147
@cripbk2147 11 месяцев назад
I have it the same after rewatching it 2x Watching it live I had fury winning
@JK_073
@JK_073 11 месяцев назад
The people saying “KSI shouldn’t have clinched” but they don’t keep the same energy for Tommy, who was clinching and holding just as much, hence why the ref didn’t take points for holding. When all the true fighters are saying it was a KSI win or draw actually have arguments to back their statements, the other side only say “Oh he clinched so he lost”. All these people are just pure KSI haters for no reason, and the worst part is that they don’t even know boxing enough to back their argument😂
@uniopp1
@uniopp1 11 месяцев назад
Nah that's cap ksi was doing about 90% of the holding.
@vices5954
@vices5954 11 месяцев назад
​@@uniopp1 why are you lying
@MrLampes
@MrLampes 11 месяцев назад
the problem is boxers arent judges and most of them aren't qualified to be one, in fact probably none. Fair win to Tommy.
@uniopp1
@uniopp1 11 месяцев назад
@@vices5954 hope off ksi's nuts he got dominated 4-1 wasn't a close fight.
@JK_073
@JK_073 11 месяцев назад
@@MrLampes you can’t be a judge without being a boxer. How else would you know who wins? You have to be a true student of the game first.
@elliot3236
@elliot3236 11 месяцев назад
Com' on..why are people even scoring this kinda influencer boxing circus seriosuly. This is obv a cash grab and the press conference is definitely more interesting than the fight. You can find amateur fights with a higher boxing skill level in Canada lol
@CeezTheBeast24
@CeezTheBeast24 11 месяцев назад
Tommy fury is a trash fighter ..with the experience he has and for as many years he’s been boxing he should be knocking these RU-vidrs out … 2. JayJ sounds like a kids name lol
@pabblo101
@pabblo101 11 месяцев назад
The match should have been 8 rounds instead of 6 so we get a more definitive decision but I think JJ's camp knows his gas tank doesn't run that deep. So alas, we get a decision majority of the fanbase do not agree with and a very lack luster main event. I'm willing to bet this was the peak of Misfits boxing up until we get that Jake and KSI fight in the future.
@Nahcz
@Nahcz 11 месяцев назад
It should’ve been 8 since Jake did 8, but his camp said no
@nahhyourwrong
@nahhyourwrong 11 месяцев назад
they only made it 6 rounds because they gave everything like the weight to tommy so they chose 6 to atleast get something out of it
@dboydl6603
@dboydl6603 11 месяцев назад
Yeah this fight not being 8 rounds is a joke but I guess there’s a reason because Jj’s fighting style is not sustainable for long distance. Couple more rounds and I don’t think anyone’s arguing with the result🤷‍♂️
@nahhyourwrong
@nahhyourwrong 11 месяцев назад
@@dboydl6603 the thing is jj could easily go 8 rounds, but since his team and himself during the fight decided to stay and remain bladed(bouncy) because they got a point and knew they were up 2 rounds they stuck to bladed instead of switching too squared like he did with fournier or temperr
@dboydl6603
@dboydl6603 11 месяцев назад
@@nahhyourwrong I don’t know about easily going 8 rounds since he’s only done it against Logan twice and those fights he was using a more conventional boxing stance. Also the bouncy stance was the only thing that Tommy couldn’t get ahold and disrupted his rhythm because when Jj did decide to stand in front and trade briefly he got outboxed (yes it was only like 2-3 times in the whole fight). Also don’t think his team would’ve wanted him to revert to a orthodox stance because that would’ve played right into Fury’s hands e.g Jake Paul trying to outbox Fury and getting comfortably beat
@speed1720
@speed1720 11 месяцев назад
Man, 100% agree with wade. Even roundhouse said that it was either a draw or a KSI win with giving 5th round to KSI based upon the stats
@JonathanVegaa
@JonathanVegaa 11 месяцев назад
I may be biased I think KSI won I don’t think it’s a robbery the fight was close regardless what I do think is I felt like KSI held his own did enough to win and did better than Jake did when you don’t count the slip/knockdown he had Considering the less training KSI has had compared to Jake and Definitely Tommy this fight only helped grow his stock and the clear path now is KSI vs Jake in order to have the winner try and Avenge their lost vs tommy and cement whose the best YT boxer once and for all
@GhostPoynt
@GhostPoynt 11 месяцев назад
A draw is a very fair answer, the fight was very close. But I do think that KSI won
@itsBennett
@itsBennett 11 месяцев назад
You are a shill. The judges did not have this wrong and if this was a click bait title, Shame on you, but Tommy won this fight and it wasn’t even close.
@victorvega3884
@victorvega3884 11 месяцев назад
People are a little too quick to throw around the word *robbery* I believe Tommy won even after rewatching the fight. KSI clinched excessively, which should have resulted in points deducted. KSI also landed more back of the head shots than Tommy, but somehow, only Tommy was blamed and had points deducted. KSI couldn't have really expected to win off of a clinch off. Yes, it wasn't Tommy Fury's best performance, but he had the cleaner shots throughout the fight
@HOWIEchris
@HOWIEchris 11 месяцев назад
This was a bad performance not to sure if we were watching the same fight it was a draw and they messed up the score card
@advcon4093
@advcon4093 11 месяцев назад
Thankyouuuuu for this, hope it’s a banger like the rest 🫶🏼 much love to you and your brand. Rlly built something amazing here and I hope it keeps growing
@lethalsword911
@lethalsword911 11 месяцев назад
I don't understand those boxing or fighting channels to be honest, you have no fight experience or coaching experience. Tommy won 4 rounds (3,4,5,6) and he always had his foot forward and controlled the tempo and pushed forward while ksi tried to land a big right then went into a clinch, this deductes points from him which is why tommy got a majority decision. I'm not hating on what ksi did, it was great that he went the distance vs a "pro" boxer but yet again his style was extremely unorthodox which makes it difficult for anyone to "properly" box with him.
@cm-vs7fz
@cm-vs7fz 11 месяцев назад
Wade trying to protect RU-vid boxing 😂
@melonxvi
@melonxvi 11 месяцев назад
@@cm-vs7fzhes just being real, yet ur closed sped mind cant see
@melonxvi
@melonxvi 11 месяцев назад
there are many instances that tommy doesn’t adapt to the fight. Jj did the same thing every round yet tommy doesnt adapt to it even with 10 years plus in boxing.
@MuhammadHosny0
@MuhammadHosny0 11 месяцев назад
​@@melonxvihe's trying to kiss KSI'S ass and get back on misfits I promise you. Nothing about being real 😂
@melonxvi
@melonxvi 11 месяцев назад
oh ofc you would know that as a fact, not the fact that he was on a competitings side organization or the fact that logan jj n mams still make fun of wade even till this day. just because wade gave a answer u don't like, it doesn't make him a ass kisser. I PROMISE you that.@@MuhammadHosny0
@wangambasingh7625
@wangambasingh7625 11 месяцев назад
I think u just don't like Tommy 😂 U r being soo biased. U can't handle that Tommy won fairly. Ksi is not a boxer he is a hugging champ
@smellyquim
@smellyquim 11 месяцев назад
Ks had zero integrity when he lost the fight.
@yungdemigod7224
@yungdemigod7224 11 месяцев назад
He was not robbed. He didn’t negate anything. All he did was duck under the right hand and hug. He lost. There’s nothing to break down here. U don’t win hugging. Tommy walked him down and tried to make a fight while ksi hugged. If u watch actual boxing these clown show events are easy to call and score.
@drinkwater9891
@drinkwater9891 11 месяцев назад
did tommy actualyl land a punh i dont remember
@MuskeyIsntReal
@MuskeyIsntReal 11 месяцев назад
i think it’s fair to say that ksi is an actual boxer if tommy is and it was that close
@tomwoodland9607
@tomwoodland9607 11 месяцев назад
JJ's whole gameplan was to bounce in the corner to make Tommy come in or else the fight would have been even more of a sleep fest and throw a right hand and clinch...but also to make Tommy hit him behind back of the head purposely turning his head into them, guessing you haven't watched JJs corner cam? you know where on mic we can literally hear KSIs coach telling him to clinch and let Tommy hit him in back of the head to get even more points off..... So no KSI didn't win this fight, him and his team put together a plan of just not fighting and instead doing star jumps and throwing a single shot then clinching and over exaggerating a hit to the head that JJ and his team WANTED they literally said during the fight to keep getting points deducted!
@vulturereveal
@vulturereveal 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I also noticed KSI tunrned his head multiple times when clinching to make Tommy accidently hit him behind his head. It’s just dirty and not respectable at all. Atleast Jake fought Tommy like an actual boxer while KSI didn’t cause he was clearly scared to do so.
@tinytree407
@tinytree407 11 месяцев назад
Why are people defending ksi he acts like a little kid he is a weird dude
@hassentrh2118
@hassentrh2118 11 месяцев назад
he has the nerve to claim he got "robbed" in such a disappointing fight...
@darbyburns9479
@darbyburns9479 11 месяцев назад
Wasn’t a tough watch for normies, it was a tough watch for anyone with eyeballs
@kevinsmithfan37
@kevinsmithfan37 11 месяцев назад
I don't think ksi wins in a rematch. Honesty I think tommy took him lightly. He didn't really have a game plan. I think he just thought he would jab him and it would be a death by 1000 cuts sort of thing, but KSI being so awkward and having a game plan with the bonus of the point deducted all swag it his way to (in my opinion get a 57-56 win for KSI). That being said if this was an 8 round fight tommy would have likely won the next 2 rounds. Now if they rematch tommy is gonna take it more seriously, he is going to have a game plan for that bladed stance, the fight is gonna be 8 rounds which only adds to tommy then he is going to make sure he cleans up his punches so he doesn't get another deduction. We you take off the Deduction it would have been a draw so it's hard to see ksi winning because what are the odds tommy puts himself in that position again.
@Srq975
@Srq975 11 месяцев назад
Judges got it right. Tommy fury won.
@Dragonlord826
@Dragonlord826 11 месяцев назад
No
@Gregwop
@Gregwop 11 месяцев назад
Tommy walked him into the corner each round multiple times, threw the 1-1-2 everytime and KSI ass clinched everytime he threw that combo which was 80% of this fight. Ksi skill set showed and so did Tommy’s, both subpar
@sportsfan_91
@sportsfan_91 11 месяцев назад
Dude how did I not know that was Lev Bell with you lmao. You guys had a great dynamic & chemistry.
@michealrosen
@michealrosen 11 месяцев назад
5:30 wrong his coaches told him in the 3rd round to stay in the clinch so tommy will hit the back of the head the audio is already online
@Synpathetix
@Synpathetix 11 месяцев назад
I think what I hate the most about KSI is his ego about how good of a boxer he is, but even after all these years when the bell rings, he goes back to swinging like a mad man and all his 'technique' and 'skill' he claims to have just goes out the window. its annoying to watch.
@goncalosilva5369
@goncalosilva5369 11 месяцев назад
Saying that ksi was the only one clinching like i saw some people say its extremely desingenious. It was a close fight ksi won round 1 and 2 plus deduction i thought it was a draw personally.
@trevor3575
@trevor3575 11 месяцев назад
I will admit I was wrong about KSI. I thought he was a terrible boxer and a real boxer would pick him apart. He looked really good the first couple rounds but obviously gassed out. Rounds 3-6 he’d throw a punch and immediately clinch. I think Tommy controlled rounds 3-6 but neither guy did enough to clearly win more rounds than the other. I though tommy performed slightly better but with the point taken away, I definitely had a draw
@egj3054
@egj3054 11 месяцев назад
The real losers are those who paid actual money to watch two grown men hug
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