KUBOTA BX23S VS JOHN DEERE 1025R HEAD TO HEAD DAY 2 

Thanks so much!

Thanks for confirming the videos! I really appreciate it! Do you have a mower on your tractor?

@@EverythingGreenTractors yes, I have .8 acre and a 54” mmm. I drive through a fence gate to the back yard, but my neighbor with a K3901 can get through as well. I’ve made a few things for mine, the most complex was a 156# grapple which is a perfect match. It’s nice to switch from mower to tractor without leaving the seat. Full disclosure, I ordered a set of HydrosPlus cylinders to increase lift by 35%. Except for rocks and hard clay, mine handles most everything I need. Lift now is practically about 500#, upgrade should be around 750#. I do think Kubota detunes the BX for some reason.

Hi Joseph, thanks for responding! In actuality I use the same techniques for both. The Kubota touts being able to lift and curl at the same time, and it cannot do it. I tried several times. As explained in the other 2 videos on the comparison series I had to alternate lift and curl and in most cases back out of the pile to lift the load. If you own a Kubota try to drive into the pile and replicate what the Deere can do at idle. If you don't own a Kubota and are in the market for a new tractor go try both. The bigger issue is that Kubota sales people were telling people they perform the same, and they do not. I appreciate your comments, thanks for sharing!

Thanks for letting us know? Just out of curiosity were you told any of the things listed in the video?

Thanks for letting us know! Accidentally hit the question mark

I was told a lot of untrue things about the K. Specifically that it will perform and match the R in lifting RPMs and that its maneuverability beats the R. The salesmen was also pretty sleazy and I picked up on that right away. He seemed bored to sell me a tractor. Im located inOntario Canada.

@@DoubleTapRangerOutdoors Wow! Sorry to hear you went through that, but I am glad to have helped you out! You will love the Deere!

Can hardly wait!

Thanks Kurt I appreciate you watching!

Thanks so much! You lived in the right spot!! The next video is the 1023E vs the BX2680 and I think that it will affirm your choice even more!

@@markmccoy1304 Thanks for responding and watching! The reason I am not curling with the Kubota is because it won’t curl unless you back out. I am trying to do it the whole time. If you watch my hands you will see that is what I am doing. I agree the Kubota does not compare however Kubota says it does. Thanks for watching!

@@EverythingGreenTractors Understand. Good job.

Morning!

Thanks for the response! I agree not all Kubota sales people make these claims however in our local market I have heard it more than one time from my customers. I really appreciate your insights! Thanks so much!

@@EverythingGreenTractors One other thing…I got a Frontier rear mount snowblower (big area to clear and usually lots of snow here, except this year😡) and the JD twin touch pedal system vs. using my heel to reverse on the Kubota seemed to make more sense for me from an ease of use point of view.

@@JB-171 I always thank all of my customers who purchase a snow removal implement as it usually means we won’t have any snow this winter! Thanks for taking one for the team!!😀

Thanks for the comments. What tractor do you have?

I considered the larger tractor too at one point but I wanted to get in so many tight spots it made sense. I would love to have the 3033r for the Ehydro and the electro hydraulic thumb. That is an awesome tractor!

Hi Angela, thanks for responding, sorry it took me a while to get back to you. Since the making of this video I have spoken with and sold former Kubota owners the 1025R and all of them have agreed, the Deere out performs that Kubota. I appreciate you are all Deere! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for commenting! I agree the dealership relationship is extremely important. Being able to get parts and service when things break down makes a huge difference in downtime issues. Purchasing a tractor that can get the job done in nearly half the time is also important as it will reduce your labor, wear and tear and hours on the machine. The financing experience you have described has not been the experience of the businesses I work with on a regular basis. I have found John Deere financial to be an excellent partner in helping our businesses meet their needs. We offer a full line of financing products including leasing to help out partners keep their overall maintenance expenses down. John Deere Financial also offers the same type of insurance as Kubota at a fraction of the cost. Thanks so much for watching. I hope all works out for you with the Kubota. By the way I am not a fanboy😀!

I am trying to but the Kubota doesn’t respond the same as the Deere does. Please watch the part 1 comments explained. It will help you understand what is going on better. If you own a BX23 or BX26 please make a video and show it driving through a pile and getting a full bucket of rock or dirt at 1800 rpm like the Deere does. I will post a link to your video. Thanks for commenting!

You shouldn't push, tilt the bucket to "eat" your way through the pile. The hydraulics on both aren't good at all. Massey Ferguson and Yanmar are better tractors, if you have a dealership nearby.

@@VineV-Dutch It does not appear the Deere is struggling through any of the videos with hydraulics in any of the 14 videos we have made so far. Please if you have a Massey or Yanmar make a video demonstrating they have better hydraulics vs the 1025R. I will post the link to your channel on my site. Thanks for the comments!

Thanks for the comments. Sounds like you own both the Massey and the Yanmar. Please post a video of each driving into a pile like we do in this test here. I will post a link to your video. Thanks for the comments!

Drive by commenting!

No. Bad reliability and bad return on investment

Mainly at getting in and out of the pile. Travel time was the same. The Kubota bucket is shaped differently and spilled a bit more during travel so I went slower to keep a full load for the pile comparison. Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for responding! I agree 100% they are not the same but Kubota is telling people they are the same at a lower price. Thanks for agreeing and for watching! Btw we have a 1023e Deere vs the Bx2680 coming out soon!

Hi Ed, thanks for responding sorry it took me a while to get back to you, My tractor is stock, I don't recommend "fine tuning" your tractor as that could lead to voiding a warranty. I watch Tractor Time with Tim and I love his channel, I am a subscriber, but Tim is selling product and sometimes his fine tuning leads to a broken tractor part. I really recommend sitting down with a sales person and listing the jobs you will do so that you have the correct tractor with the proper capabilites without fine tuning. Thank you so much!

Thank you for the advice … but companies make the tractors to be adjustable they make everything to the basics so that you spend more to up grade… subject change to prove my point… snowmobiles… when they built the fire cat …. The first ones didn’t come with electric start or reverse.. why … it’s so you up grade to the next yr when they add the electric start and reverse… but the first sleds could have it all added… up grades… you can also make your tractors have more horsepower just by turning up the fuel mixture screw… you 25 hp now becomes a 30 hp without the emissions bs with diesel… there is lots of ways to upgrade things without breaking them… the upgraded parts are made for a reason …

@@EdZirul Thanks Ed. My point is my tractor performs as is without any adjustments. If you purchase a tractor that you have to adjust to get it to perform to the level of a stock competitor tractor it only makes sense then you can adjust the competitor tractor and it will still outperform the tractor you purchased. Having dealt with customers who are trading in competitive tractors I have heard stories of denied warranties over much more trivial matters. My suggestion is purchase the tractor that gets the job you want done with the stock specs in place. After the warranty is up do whatever you want to it. Thanks for watching!

@@EverythingGreenTractors that’s not the point I’m making … the point I’m making is that all tractors can do better than what the factory specs… are and they do that so you spend money to up grade…. It’s not about what tractor is better … cause some of cheaper tractors out preform John Deere stock… the point is you can make your tractor do what it should and have the power it should… not the dumbed down version that comes from the factory….

@@EverythingGreenTractors and by the way … your tractor probably has 3 pounds of hydraulic pressure going to the steering … not needed…. That is robbing the rest of the hydraulic system…. Basically your lifting can be better.. running the 3 point could be better…. No one is trying to destroy their tractors… but they are trying to get the best performance out of them that the factories rob you of…. Just to steal more money from you on upgrades…

Hi James, sorry I have been busy selling tractors. John Deere has released a statement on this topic which essentially lays out what their focus will be going forward. I encourage you to read that press release. Thanks again!

It was brief 😁

@@MJF40 Definitely but very concise!