Kuk Sool Won / Ki Do Hae Korean Martial Art Demonstration 

It's like the 30 years that have tested one martial art against one another in Vale Tudo and UFC type events never happened. People who have never pressure tested their systems keep on spouting the same old shit. So why do you suppose it is the best all around fighters in the world (either in the ring or on the street) consistently have backgrounds in the same half dozen systems?

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What is the difference in terms of technique, forms, pressure points, joint locks, kicks, punches, weapons, or belt advancement?

commandersprocket KI Do Hae has the same forms and techniques as kuk sool won, but because In Sun Seo took over the federation to keep quality control over the Hapkido in Korea they do practice and demonstrate techniques at hapkido events and seminars, that kuk sool left out of their syllabus in favour of others from say Shippalgi or other sources. But they still practice the syllabus of kuk sool won (with a bit of their own flavour, they are not a part of wksa so they can technically do that, not with the forms though).

@@nihilityjoey ,Kidohae may change anything from WKSA they wish to. Except for the dictatorial nature of KSW, there is no rule saying they cannot. Take a look at the old Tahn Moo Do syllabus.

Kuk Sool Won is an association... literally. So is Kido Have. The body of techniques and forms are identical. I don't really understand your point @Thomas Smith.

He didn't actually study this style. They wanted a UFC entrant and nobody in their own organisation wanted to fight full-contact with so few rules.

@@amk8411 i do ksw and im pretty sure our sparring had contact maybe 10 years ago. also the reason nobody in our organization wanted to do it was because most people in kuk sool see it as self defense not so much fighting for money or entertainment. what you said about ksw giving gary a black belt cuz they wanted a ufc entrant is probably true

Poor brainwashed fool. Don't worry, it will wear off one day. In the meantime I urge you to consider how you're going to apply any of these 'amazing' techniques when kuk sool classes never encourage resistive training or indeed, how to go about applying them on an aggressive attacker.

Absolutely Weaver. Kuk Sool Won is a wonderful mix of many different techniques. I think the complexities of the art are hard for some people to grasp. To each his or her own.

Marcos Harrison You must be new to the world of martial arts and don't understand what forms/katas/etc. are for. What you're seeing here is naturally exaggerated to a point for demonstration purposes, but the techniques themselves are 100% effective. When it comes to applying techniques to aggressive attackers, you do know they spar too right?

zentetsutakama I achieved my DBN rank in KSW before I realise that it was bunk. I'm aware of what forms are, and I'm now fully against them. Drilling techniques is fine, but not once in my 4 years in the art did I ever practice (nor even see, nor hear of anyone practising) techniques with a non compliant partner. As for the sparring, if you want to call ultra light, noncontinuous point fighting sparring then I also think it limits the practitioners - it doesn't even allow the application of any techniques that are claimed to be effective and useful. Not even something as benign as ki bohn soo 15, a basic hip toss used effectively in hard contact in almost every other art I've studied since leaving the won. Above all else, there is no sense of humility instilled in students because they never have their skills fully tested in any real sense. And so their ego goes unchecked, rising through the ranks until they earn a title and the whole power tripping package that goes with their academic knowledge. If you guys want to role play ancient Korean warfare all day then that's fight, but do it without the hierarchical bullying, bowing and nonsense titles. Finally, did you know that nearly every other martial art begin classes with a bow to the portrait as a sign of respect because HE'S DEAD? Last time I checked kuk sa him was still kicking it lively in his pimpin gold PJ's. That's not strange and cult like at all...

Marcos Harrison I'm not sure where you trained, but frankly, they sound like they sucked and I'm sorry they didn't teach you correctly. I'm also talking about real, no points, full contact sparring (sorry to hear you never had that experience). Some KSW throws aren't really throws at all, but ways to break an opponent's wrist, for example. You fall like you're thrown as an effective nullifier. Again, sorry to hear no one taught you that.

I've been in fights. Plenty. And utilized these techniques. They produce a quick finish in 90% of most scenarios.

A different way of fighting, different view point

It is related to hapkido. Kuk Sool Won was once called Kuk Sool Won Hapkido.

@@mastermichaeldunchok , it was partnered with hapkido, until Pak decide to break away and create Kong Sin Pup and Tae Keuk Do, but that does not mean it spawned from it. Kuk Sool Won is garbage, I think, for the most part. You do not get good by practicing Kuk Sool Won, a demonstration art if there ever was one, but if you study martial arts, it has a lot to teach.

@@KaptainCanuck No, I mean literally during the first 15 years of its operation in the 1960s and into the 1970s, it was called Kuk Sool Won Hapkido. It is hapkido, plus some kung fu hyungsae.

@@mastermichaeldunchok, I know the ALLEGED history (besides the KSW/HKD association) and I have no use for the Kuk Sool Won stuff.

@@KaptainCanuck But the alleged history from the source is that it was not hapkido and is a different martial art than hapkido. It's not alleged at all that it was once called "Kuk Sool Won Hapkido." That is easily verifiable. The fluff is in the way they do their hapkido and their kung fu as well. Passive partners who jump into the air, stances that are too low and hyungsae that are too busy with meaningless movements, inaccuracies and poor research on acupuncture points, kigong that is pantomime rather than true breath training. But that is all in the WAY they train their content, not their content itself, which is still hapkido and kung fu and can be trained properly.

+Jeff Fountain ...I have studied several different arts (including Kuk Sool) and I assure you the other arts you listed can be money traps. With that said, I really liked my time training in Kuk Sool. The only negative I had was that you had to be at an advanced level (brown/black) before you started working on any type of ground techniques.

+Jeff Fountain One thing I agree with about bjj Is that the end goal of martial arts Is grappling. Jujitsu in all it's forms Is best. karate for kicks and punches from a distance as well as aiki jujitsu. In close bjj judo and hybrid martial arts like silat kajukenbo systema etc anything that has combat grappling aspects well do. Given that you can grapple in the ring in the street your grappling has no rules that's were bjj fails in my opinion. I think aikido fails in that it doesn't address true combat it assumes people are compliant in a fight. I love the non violent philosophy and think it's best but when it's life are death aikido isn't going to save you.

+Jeff Fountain I understand your opinion and agree at some point, but if you use kickboxing or boxe against a guy with a knife you wish you had learn some hapkido or kuk sool won !

Well I have done this art to brown belt and trained with others training for their second and third degree black belts. I know what this art has to offer. While there is good stuff there it is not worth the bullshit. If you want weapons defence in your toolkit penkat silat, kali, escrima and modern combatives are a better way to go by far.

fmcra It's also been said that If you go into a fight with someone who has a weapon your goal is survival. There is a difference from knife fighting and self defense. If you go up against a trained knife fighter you will get cut no question about it. Then your whole goal Is to survive. What various systems offer are tools that may work under the right given situation. You have to find what works for you and train your heart out.

Nick G Pretty ignorant in my opinion... Its usual nowadays though for people to bash Traditional Martial arts eversince the UFC became popular... Then people took bruces lees advice 'Take what is usefull and discard what is not' then MMA was created to be a full combat sport that became a very popular sport but sadly created many ignorant people claiming Bjj / mma is the best and all other traditonal arts are bs... Anyway Kuk sool won is following the same advice of bruce lee and created a practical martial arts system from korean martial arts... And btw they are called break falls and are highly usefull in a street fight or any occurance that causes you to fall/slip... People who are skilled in breakfalls minimize damage done to themselves and has saved many peoples lives before

That's what you think. Ive been practicing the art since I was 12. And believe me there isn't anything you can't throw at me that I can't Neutralize.

@@abrahamcardenas1534 bullshit!

Kuk Sool is not a worthy martial art. All of the information and the claims the narrator is making were provided by the WKSA and not from an "informed viewpoint". For the very high ranked, it may have some justification and useability but not otherwise.

You Idiot

Don't Diss ma martial art

Very disrespectful. It takes years of dedicated training to get to that level.