I liked PARTS of this movie. -The Art Style. -Kai's weapons and theme. -Po's Dads. -The implication that Oogway was a fricking warlord! Maybe even a tyrant, before the Pandas reformed him! -The ending, showing Po acting as a good teacher! -Some of the jokes. What I disliked: -Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, took backseat to the Panda village, which was almost always the same joke told different ways. -A bunch of new characters that aren't evem focussed on, yet we're supposed to care about. -Po and the Five have maybe 5, 10ish minutes of screentime interacting together, including Tigress. Yes, I'm a Po-Tigress fan. Sue me. -The message feels very much like a watered down retread of the last movie. -Kai is given a goal, with no motivation behind it. What I would have liked to see: -Maybe Kai and Oogway had a similar emotional dynamic to Tai Lung and Shifu. Kai's motivation is to be as great as his "brother," and feels that Oogway changing from a warlord to a peaceful master is the "betrayal" he referred to. -Just a smidge less focus on the Panda Village. Yes, they're cute and cuddly, but we don't need 45 minutes of it. -Po learning HOW to teach. The setup with the pandas is fine, but feels more like a gag than an actual lesson. I don't hate this movie, but 2 is my favourite by a good mile or ten.
Kai had no motivation but no real villain ever thinks much thru. They just get power hungry like tai lung and or want more than they have also like tai lung but definitely shen. Villain are dumb but are fun to fall in love with and watch fail
@@emperorbelos6835 For some villains like Shen, yeah, he didn't need any motivation because he was just born the way he is and loves power. Kai on the other hand actually showed emotions towards Oogway. THAT'S what makes him a little bit of a letdown. He had no reason to be evil. You're telling me Kai, the person who would die for his best friend Oogway, just randomly decided to start stealing people's chi for no good reason? I also kinda doubt they were Warlords, because then otherwise Oogway wouldn't have any problem with stealing chi and using it to continue conquering the world. They could have easily added in some context about why he turned evil, like perhaps, most likely, Kai saw that he could become stronger than every villain by stealing chi, not seeing that he himself would become a villain if he stole chi. Easy as that.
@@davygravy5802 correct. He wanted more power than he had and that can turn a reasonable man evil. Especially if the way you get more power is by taking others life
I love that "You talk too much while watching." Like... that's the point. Who wants to sit here and watch someone just stare blankly at a screen for half an hour?
Agreed, I see people say this ALL the time about reactors. I mean are people really that dumb or what? Are they really saying to themselves "How dare these reactors react on a reaction channel"? I've seen those reactors that "stare blankly at a screen" and that's just boring as hell.
I think their main critic isn‘t that she talks to much, but rather misses out on some important scenes or dialogues because of „talking to much“ and I think it‘s a fair criticism. I think it’s a fair trade though, to get commentary and lose some reactions on some important scenes.
That is not the issue. When people do indeed "talk a lot" it is good to get their opinion, as you suggested, but the issue is that THEY TALK OVER THE MOVIE/SHOW instead of pausing it to speak their mind! Then they are missing on things because of that, they are not focused may even ask stupid questions later on because they didn't pay attention :/
I seen "reactions" like that and yeah...they're horrible. There's no point seeing them watch important moments in the film if they're not truly reacting to those moments.
16:00 The flashback implies that Kai didn't turn evil. More like Oogway had a shift in morality. So Kai is technically right that Oogway did betray him.
@@theidiotics2629yeah ik, especially since oogway didn’t try to reason with him but just kinda attacked him, idk if this is unpopular but his treatment towards characters of opposite morals is questionable as he never tries to help them but lets them continue on destructive paths.
@@eepupm1 That's because Oogway has become the embodiment of Daoism, which stresses passive non-intervention, recognizes that wickedness is part of the natural order of things (yin and yang), and that the cosmos will find a way to restore the natural order of the universe. Daoism is literally the philosophy that teaches one to "go with the flow" of the cosmos, instead of struggling against it. This is what provides the conflict between Oogway and Shifu in the first movie, Shifu struggles against events he has no control over, while Oogway recognizes that the cosmos had a plan all along, and in fact he was free to float off to the spirit realm because the last thing the cosmos meant for him to do he had already done. Shifu's character arc is learning to accept that there are things that are meant to be and to let the cosmos have its way, which is how he finds inner peace.
I think Kai needed a better motivation than, "He suddenly wanted more power cuz greedy." Instead if he had resented the Pandas for not teaching and spreading their knowledge on how to heal with Chi. I mean he walked for days in the snow to heal Oogway because the Pandas are apparently the only ones who know how to heal wounds like that. If he was angry that they kept that skill to themselves it would've made his motivations that much more believable.
I think kai was always a selfish villain probably oogwei too so kai after realising chi power potential wanted it whereas oogwei being rescued by the pandas had a change of heat although subtly impied in the movie
I think Oogway and Kai both were evil considering they were warlords, and that Oogway turned good due to the pandas healing him with Chi, that makes much more sense and also justifies what Kai said about Oogway betraying him
By utilising a secret ingredient, which shouldn’t have been what allowed Po to reach his full potential because that was the lesson in the first film :(
Exactly. Unless the person just outright ignores the obvious and creates their own selfish narrative. Honestly hearing them out is pretty fair. Interesting to listen to anyone with an idea.
The things i liked about this movie: - Crane and Mantis getting screentime - Ping being the awesome dad he is - Seeing Oogway again - Flashback to Lord Shen - Nobody recognisinng Kai The things i hated: - The movie being more “childish” then the first two - Just a bunch of regular pandas defeating Jade Masters - Everyone randomly learning the power of chi. Literally, why?? Even the pigs in the town??? That’s too OP! - Mei Mei - The confusion it caused me about the spirit realm. Does dead people go there? Then why did they show us Tai Lung’s chi but didn’t show Lord Shen’s chi? Where did he go? - The new animation thingy
@RooByrne I mean...it's the "spirit" realm, where spirits go. We were never told about how the other masters died, so I think Shen did in fact go to the spirit realm. But, since he was not as trained of Kung fu warrior as Tai Lung, his chi was negligible compared to others, leading Kai to not even make a pendant off him, because that peacock did not use Kung fu to dominate; he used artillery. And Kai only made pendants off whoever he thought could be used well in battle, although why he didn't release Tai Lung, I don't know.
Man, there are some things you didn't like that were cool in the film or simply went back to the way it was more or less in the first film, in the series and especially in the shorts
@@KFP_Fanboy i think the visuals for three was good, but i think the art they did at the intro for the 2nd was really nice, the fight styles and story was good. But then Again all three are close with each other based on how good they are so i cant compare them. I enjoyed them (:
@@matthewromano2776 Kung Fu Panda 3 is the best in the franchise. In Kung Fu Panda 2 (the favorite of most people), Lord Shen attacked the panda village, but there was nobody to save them. In Kung Fu Panda 3, Kai attacks the village and Po has to save them. Which was the perfect idea for the third installment of this franchise. One thing that people hate about this movie was the “disappointing” villain defeat. But I don’t think people exactly understand it. Po didn’t actually “give” Kai his chi. He used his chi as a weapon just like Kai did. Po had the chi of all the pandas and his own chi. Kai usually takes the masters’ bodies along with the chi, but he didn’t when Po gave his chi to Kai. That’s why it was too much. He took the chi of a whole village pandas and the Kung Fu Panda at a time without their physical forms. Instead of carrying around more chi amulets, he got loaded with the chi of all those pandas. It makes sense, people overthink it. Chi is like a sword if you think about it. Kai used chi as a weapon, but once it was put inside of him, it killed him. Also, at the beginning, Oogway told Kai "The more you take, the less you have." Then what happens? Kai dies from taking too much. A nice detail DreamWorks added in the final battle was that Po fought Kai with what happened to him in Kung Fu Panda and Kung Fu Panda 2. Also, Po was taught kung fu with food. Then he taught the village of pandas with their lifestyles. The whole "turn you into you" thing wasn't a callback to the beginning of the movie, it was a callback to the first Kung Fu Panda movie. Most people like Shen the most, but General Kai is the best villain in my opinion. He may not have been intimidating, but he had really great villain lines. When Shifu said "Oogway, forgive me." Kai held up the chi amulet of Oogway and said "What do you say, Oogway? Do you forgive him?" Also, his music was obviously the best villain music in existence. Not to mention his weapon, fight style, or entrances. Also, the first two villains were chased by Po and the Furious Five. But Kai was the only villain who did the chasing. Instead of Po hunting him down, Kai would find Po and the others no matter where they ran. Po even said “There’s nowhere to run.” This made Kai felt very unstoppable, which was just as good as being intimidating. Tai Lung and Lord Shen are both villains that people feel bad for, but Kai is just a really terrible person. They made Kai very unique. It was refreshing to see a super powerful villain that everyone wanted to see get destroyed. Most people know that Kung Fu Panda 1, 2, and 3 have the themes of body, mind, and spirit. But there’s more to it than that. In Kung Fu Panda, Tai Lung hurt hurt the characters’ bodies by beating them. In Kung Fu Panda 2, Lord Shen hurt hurt Po’s mind by killing his mother. In Kung Fu Panda 3, General Kai hurt hurt the characters’ spirits by defeating Oogway, enslaving most of the characters, and destroying the jade palace. I caught another detail that makes the movie more meaningful. Po is burdened with the responsibility of teaching kung fu and he feels like he’ll never be able to do it. In the first Kung Fu Panda, he was burdened with the responsibility of defeating Tai Lung. He was able to defeat Tai Lung first try, but he failed at teaching. So he feels like teaching is a new Tai Lung for him. That’s why he was playing with his Tai Lung action figure while he was upset. I don't even need to talk about comedy or animation in this movie. Nearly everyone already agrees that comedy, and animation in Kung Fu Panda 3 is better than in first two movies. The music in Kung Fu Panda 3 is easily the best. It has Kai’s theme, and the final battle music is so much better than the music from the other movies. Also, the action is amazing! The scene of Kai beating Tigress, Shifu, Monkey, and Viper had perfect fight choreography. A lot of people don’t like that the Furious Five didn't do much but I think I need to remind people that this movie is in the Kung Fu Panda franchise. Not "The Furious Five" franchise. I was happy seeing the Furious Five get a lot of spotlight in Kung Fu Panda 2, the movie wouldn’t be half as great without that. But I am extremely happy that they didn’t do the same thing for Kung Fu Panda 3. Because in Kung Fu Panda, first Tigress, Monkey, Crane, Viper, and Mantis were defeated, then Shifu was defeated. In Kung Fu Panda 2 they fought alongside Po. In Kung Fu Panda 3, Po had to fight Shifu and all the other masters except Tigress. I don't get how people think this is the worst or second best in the franchise. I think it's better than Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 combined.
@@KFP_Fanboy im glad youre taking this serious and breaking the films down and iill read this when im off work cause im impressed and want to actually read this
Girl, you're totally fine!!!! This movie was good but not as good as the first two. Nothing against you, because I didn't like it that much, either. (Although, Kai's theme song is pretty dope lol)
Kung Fu Panda 3 is the best in the franchise. In Kung Fu Panda 2 (the favorite of most people), Lord Shen attacked the panda village, but there was nobody to save them. In Kung Fu Panda 3, Kai attacks the village and Po has to save them. Which was the perfect idea for the third installment of this franchise. One thing that people hate about this movie was the “disappointing” villain defeat. But I don’t think people exactly understand it. Po didn’t actually “give” Kai his chi. He used his chi as a weapon just like Kai did. Po had the chi of all the pandas and his own chi. Kai usually takes the masters’ bodies along with the chi, but he didn’t when Po gave his chi to Kai. That’s why it was too much. He took the chi of a whole village pandas and the Kung Fu Panda at a time without their physical forms. Instead of carrying around more chi amulets, he got loaded with the chi of all those pandas. It makes sense, people overthink it. Chi is like a sword if you think about it. Kai used chi as a weapon, but once it was put inside of him, it killed him. Also, at the beginning, Oogway told Kai "The more you take, the less you have." Then what happens? Kai dies from taking too much. A nice detail DreamWorks added in the final battle was that Po fought Kai with what happened to him in Kung Fu Panda and Kung Fu Panda 2. Also, Po was taught kung fu with food. Then he taught the village of pandas with their lifestyles. The whole "turn you into you" thing wasn't a callback to the beginning of the movie, it was a callback to the first Kung Fu Panda movie. Most people like Shen the most, but General Kai is the best villain in my opinion. He may not have been intimidating, but he had really great villain lines. When Shifu said "Oogway, forgive me." Kai held up the chi amulet of Oogway and said "What do you say, Oogway? Do you forgive him?" Also, his music was obviously the best villain music in existence. Not to mention his weapon, fight style, or entrances. Also, the first two villains were chased by Po and the Furious Five. But Kai was the only villain who did the chasing. Instead of Po hunting him down, Kai would find Po and the others no matter where they ran. Po even said “There’s nowhere to run.” This made Kai felt very unstoppable, which was just as good as being intimidating. Another thing I like about Kai is that he was the only villain that never underestimated Po. When Tai Lung met Po and found out he’s the Dragon Warrior, he said “You? Him? He’s a panda. You’re a panda. What are you going to do, big guy? Sit on me?” When Lord Shen met Po, he asked Soothsayer “Do you actually believe this is the warrior destined to defeat me?” But when General Kai met Po, he said “You must be the Dragon Warrior.” Most people know that Kung Fu Panda 1, 2, and 3 have the themes of body, mind, and spirit. But there’s more to it than that. In Kung Fu Panda, Tai Lung, hurt hurt the characters’ bodies by beating them. In Kung Fu Panda 2, Lord Shen hurt hurt Po’s mind by killing his mother. In Kung Fu Panda 3, General Kai hurt hurt the characters’ spirits by defeating Oogway, enslaving most of the characters, and destroying the jade palace. I caught another detail that makes the movie more meaningful. Po is burdened with the responsibility of teaching kung fu and he feels like he’ll never be able to do it. In the first Kung Fu Panda, he was burdened with the responsibility of defeating Tai Lung. He was able to defeat Tai Lung first try, but he failed at teaching. So he feels like teaching is a new Tai Lung for him. That’s why he was playing with his Tai Lung action figure while he was upset. I don't even need to talk about comedy or animation in this movie. Everyone already agrees that comedy, and animation in Kung Fu Panda 3 is better than in first two movies. The music in Kung Fu Panda 3 is easily the best. It has Kai’s theme, and the final battle music is so much better than the music from the other movies. A lot of people don’t like that the Furious Five didn't do much but I think I need to remind people that this movie is in the Kung Fu Panda franchise. Not "The Furious Five" franchise. I was happy seeing the Furious Five get a lot of spotlight it Kung Fu Panda 2, the movie wouldn’t be half as great without that. But I am extremely happy that they didn’t do the same thing for Kung Fu Panda 3. Because in Kung Fu Panda, first Tigress, Monkey, Crane, Viper, and Mantis were defeated, then Shifu was defeated. In Kung Fu Panda 2 the fought alongside Po. In Kung Fu Panda 3, Po had to fight Shifu and all the other masters except Tigress. I don't get how people think this is the worst or second best in the franchise. I think it's better than Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 combined.
KFP1- Who I am KFP2- Why I am KFP3- I am That's the three different ways po Self actualized, he never understood his potential even though he was eager, in the first, he never knew why he was like himself, in the second and the in the last Po needs to understand what he is to others, so that he can be a true master to other students, like he was, PO was still in the state of the now, but the properties of a true master understood, his present, past and future, to help move forward into a future. Oogway, knew what he was was meant to do, but Po never understood this, just understood himself, but unable to apply his experience to others.
I agree but its a really unpopular opinion . I also take this as having the confidence to support your community with the wisdom he learned in the other movies.
There's a theory that oogway was evil but ended up turning good hence why kai said he betrayed him. Take Kais titles as example: Supreme Warlord of all China, The Jade Slayer, Master of Pain, Beast of Vengeance, Maker of Widow. You don't get names like these being a good guy.
Yep.......you are right .. And bro the trilogy is interconnected.... Due to betrayal of oogway , Kai stole the chi which led the pandas to fleed away from mountains to the gong city and some other cities I guess..... Which caused shen's prophecy and that led to po being adopted ..... It in turn led po to become a dragon warrior ......which made up oogway's mind to go back to the spirit realm... There by opening path of po to stop evil like tai lung , shen.... Since po sent tai lung to spirit realm....Kai stole his chi to become more powerful , thus he could steal the chi of oogway thereby return back to mortal realme..... Thus he went back to take the chi of pandas' ......this led to defeating the warlord for once and for alll..... The fight that started between Kai and oogway Due to pandas , also ends Due to pandas...... A great cycle.......
No, him and Oogway were both evil warlords, you got that wrong. Oogway was the one who turned good, Kai just stayed evil, that’s why he said Oogway betrayed him.
I think this is supposed to be the natural progression of a story. Po is learning about his heritage, and that is important, but it is also important to move forward in life. Where you come from helps bring closure, and that makes this film feel like a slog. However, it is also important to realize that the pandas have lost a part of their culture, so Po has to teach them what it means to have it. While I think it wasn't as well executed, the theme comes full circle to the trilogy as Po goes from Fan, to Student, to Master. While it doesn't crescendo like the others, I feel like it can hold its own by at least enough to wrap up things.
When it comes to Po, I see it as more about culture and ancestry. Sure he is himself, as well as the Dragon Warrior, but, until now, he’s never known what it’s like to live as a panda. As far as his confusion about “who he is”, it’s more about him wanting to incorporate and and be more “whole”, the sum of all of his parts. Think of it like this, a black child born and raised in the US, learns of the history of blacks here and how they came to be. An interest grows, and they delve deeper, eventually tracking their heritage back to a tribe in Africa. Then, when they can, they go there to learn what they can about their people and culture. Finally, armed with this knowledge, their life may be changed forever, as they either decide to try and honor their people and ancestors by incorporating some customs into their life going forward, or they may even decide that it was simply an experience. Either way, a piece they felt or thought was missing is no longer.
My personal thoughts is that this film is good but the other two are so much better, it lessens this one by comparison. I personally prefer the first one the best. Maybe it could of been the greatest film all of time if we got more sassy, passive aggressive Ping.
I honestly don't agree with some things you say like the "who am i" thing because ueah in the second movie he finds inner peace knowing that it doesn't matters who he is it matters who he chooses to be in the present. But only because he taught that his family and his entire race where killed and he was the only one left, but he still had a hole to be filled because no matter what in his situation he still wonders what's like to be a panda what was his family like and this type of things. And when he discovers that his father and other pandas are still alive he is confused again and the training thing about Po that now on must train the 5 is in the way too. And about the chi thing yeah it is a little forced but still shows that no matter what friends and family will always help him and that he isn't alone because in the first movie he was really lonely but with the time he made many friends. That's all i wanted to say still love your reactions and keep it goin👍🏻😄
There's also the weird implication that Po could never have completed his personal journey if Shen had been a little more thorough with the whole genocide thing. If he had succeeded in wiping out all pandas, then Po would have been shit out of luck.
It’s basically the same concept as “ im adopted “ your whole world view changes. I think the movie highlights that one event in your life can and has the power to change your entire view of everything!
@@ANGELINAA Rotten Tomatoes isn't a review metric by themselves. It's a review AGGREGATOR. Kung Fu Panda 3 sitting at 87% doesn't mean that it's an 87/100, or that Kung Fu Panda 2 being an 81% means that it's an 81/100. It means that 87% percent of all critics that reviewed the movie liked it by giving it a positive review (usually a baseline of 6/10). If ten critics review a movie, and all of them rate it 6/10, then that movie would be given a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes since everyone gave it a positive review (this is usally why rather obscure animated movies and shows get such high ratings, like the DCAMU movies or Avatar: The Last Airbender). Conversely, if ten critics review a movie, and eight of them rate it 10/10 but two rate it 3/10, then that movie would be given an 80% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, even though the overall raw average score of the second movie is much higher than the first (8.6/10 vs 6/10) and therefore could be considered a better movie than the first, even though the TomatoMeter score is lower. This is why it's important to look at the average rating of movies on Rotten Tomatoes instead of just the TomatoMeter for a more accurate look at how critics evaluated the film (you can do this by clicking on the critic TomatoMeter score). I actually don't like Rotten Tomatoes that much for this reason because it's so misleading at first glance and honestly doesn't offer much information of value in my opinion. Who cares how many critics liked a movie? Aren't most people wanting to see an actual rating a movie gets to compare it to other movies rather than a percentage of how many critics liked it? This is why I prefer Metacritic, since it's a website that's a raw review compiler that actually takes the rating each top critic gives a movie and averages it out into an actual score out of 100.
Well I think it's an amazing trilogy, because Po learns in everyone, more about himself: 1. There is no secret ingredient, if you want to make something special you only have to believe that it's special 2. Inner piece your inner thoughts and your body has to become one 3. Who is he: A son of a panda, son of a goose, a student, a teacher, he is all of them, he is the dragon warrior, BTW Po was able to come back from the spirit realm, because his Chi was so strong enough, Kai also returned, because of that and Oogway never came back, because he never tried
The things that are tackled in this movie aren't solved by the second movie's end. All the second movie answered was where Po came from and what happened to him and his family. It said that "your past doesn't define you" and "you decide who you'll be." In this movie, he has to become one with himself to master chi. He can't do that until the end because he doesn't know what it's like being a panda. It would be like if an Asian baby was adopted by a Caucasian family and raised among all Caucasians. They wouldn't need to know what happened to their birth parents but when they grew up, they would most likely want to know about their culture. The part of them that cannot change. The part that without always leaves questions. Not about the past but about who they are. Without it, they would always be disconnected from their roots, which makes up a part of who they are. It's the same with Po. He's disconnected to his culture. His roots. The missing part of him that makes him complete and a master of himself. So that there are no more questions about himself. Anyway, I know that was long winded but that's my 2 cents. Is this movie the best of the trilogy? No, but I like it very much. You're entitled to your own opinion.
Then I would say it's a good time that Shen was really bad at genocide, because if he had succeeded in wiping out all pandas, then Po could never have completed his own personal spiritual journey. That kind of rubs me the wrong way, to be honest.
I think that Po didn’t “know” who he was because of finding out new things (that his dad is alive and so on). This opens a new door for him that asks “am I not who I thought I was?” I get that this movie is similar to the previous one, but I think that there are enough differences to refer to it as a 3rd movie and not another 2nd movie…
I clearly 😅 fanboyed the time I watched it , I didn’t even question any of it but it had its moments on art & a few funny moments . Yet my fav movie will always be the first one it was so full of hope & inspiration & deep character arc & self acceptance just loved it, til date I quote oogway about present whenever I see the moment 😬.
SHEEESH finally someone that agrees with my opinions about this movie too Honestly felt like Kai didnt really have a purpose, he was a pretty shallow villain with no clear goal about what to do after collecting chi lmao also hope you’ve been doing well lately !!
@@emperorbelos6835 That’s the thing, it’s basic and not incredibly compelling, and for the final movie of the series to have a villain with basic motivation it’s pretty disappointing
For me Kungfu Panda 2 was the most epic movie of the franchise It had great story , better animation, and an epic villiam and bgm . I agree with you completly the third part was not that good
There's a saying that's something like "the world's best swordsman doesn't fear the second best, he fears the worst because he doesn't know what the idiot will do" I feel like the pandas being able to beat the jombies fits that
Kung Fu Panda 3 is actually not overrated. Many fans (including me) praise the first 2 movies for being the best in the trilogy while the 3rd one was a step down.
@@ANGELINAA extremely late but i can explain why this movie is mediocore So basically all the critics said the second movie was too dark and so dreamworks was forced to make this movie less of a kung fu panda movie altho kai has the best soundtrack of all the kung fu panda villains
"There's always something more to learn. Even for a master." - Master Shifu. The one thing about this movie is it's meant to be sort of meditative. Being still and receiving the omens of the universe. Po may have realized who he is, but that doesn't mean there isn't more to realize about oneself. Becoming a teacher, even when one is not ready. Rediscovering a strength and power. It's not the destination, but the journey. Although, yeah, thanks to over-sensitive critics and parents getting triggered over how dark and deep KFP2 was hampered what KFP3 really could have been.
I think that instead of kai, Po's father or maybe like great great grandfather was there to heal master Oogway and when Shen attacked the village Po's father turned evil to then create some sort of cult. Once Po meets his father and goes to the village it'd feel as if they're trying to make him lose his identity and change him, after that Po goes up against his own kind aaaand now im out of idea. And i agree with your opinion on this movie.
Finally someone agrees with me on this film. I absolutely adored the first and second (second one slightly more cause the emotional moments hit harder imo and baby Po) but the writing and plot for this movie felt so off. No stakes no purpose for characters actions everything felt an empty repeat of previous films where like you said the characters regressed
I mean It's actually like another part of the second film, in the previous one he find out his past so he can be in peace with him self, but here he actually learns who he is, and thats why he now know chi and why all the pandas knowes chi
Here's a way to look at this one: It's not just a regurgitation of the last movie about discovering who he is. It's about REDISCOVERING who he is now that he's no longer weighed down by trauma, something he hasn't been able to do before.
You make good points but it’s annoying that once you didn’t like one thing then you just had a negative view the entire movie regardless of what some of the scenes had to offer
I appreciate a negative review. So many commentary/reaction channels will only say positive things and quietly mention but not elaborate on the parts they didn't. I realllllllly like being able to see the full negative reaction because its a perspective, which is sort of the whole reason I watch commentary channels.
Really, you like this shit? When it comes to negative reviews, I’m all for it. And commentary channels with reasonable points are what I like, but this bitch talks over the god damn dialogue and nitpicks one scene and ignores other good scenes. This movie wasn’t my favorite, I personally liked the second one more, but this girl talks over that second one. Honestly, Angelina needs to shut up and listen, then pause the movie and give her opinion.
@@Artenar dude for what I've remembered. Kai and oogway supposed to be best friends. But then oogway got healed from the panda with chi. And then out of fucking nowhere kai want to have all the chi power for himself. Like bro, that's so random for kai to do that
@@Yowhat988 You must understand at the beginning that Oogway was evil along with Kai, they were ambitious warlords only interested in conquering. Kai's titles are not earned by being good, and Oogway, if he was good from the beginning, would probably not hang out with him. After being healed by the Pandas, Oogway's moral code completely changed and became good. So no matter how you look at it, Oogway betrayed Kai because they probably wanted to conquer this village sooner or later, but Oogway didn't agree. He also started stealing Chi because he didn't care about others, he just wanted to become stronger, because he wanted to better protect his brother. So him being evil is kinda random but Shen was randomly evil too, but the quote Oogway betray Kai is correct. After all I understand that you didnt catch that, Its not very shown well how his relationship worked before.
I'm in your boat as well, Angie. I didn't enjoy Kung Fu Panda 3 as well. Kung Fu Panda 2 was just... amazing. I saw it in theaters when I was 12 and had moved to America, and it was the first movie I saw in theaters that made me cry. It was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen. And I had high expectations for Kung Fu Panda 3, and they fell flat. It was too "funny." Not enough emotion to leave me invested in the story and characters. And you analyzing the movie even further reinforces his point. Po's journey in the first two movies were perfect and complete, and it feels like they're just rehashing the formula because it worked the first time. It didn't feel genuine. So I agree with you. BTW I think a panda as your spirit animal suits you well. Did you know Shifu is a panda too? A Red Panda. Look them up, they're one of the most adorable animals in the world. Po is a Giant Panda, the panda we usually think of when we hear the word 'panda.'
I Agree When I originally watched this movie I thought they where vague with Kai's back story because they where going to tackle it in a different way later in the movie. Tai Lung had a moment where Shifu apologized to him and you could see what almost looked like a sense of remorse on his face for a moment making it that even though his goals where two-dimensional it gave him a element of empathy that both made him more interesting and made it feel even more right that he had to be taken down when he doubled down. Lord Shen had that moment with Poe on the broken battle ship at the end of KFP2 where he didn't fight him and tried to rationalize the lesson he learned with him as an attempt to give him a chance to look at himself and instead of hearing Poe out he decided to double down. Both of these villains where given moments where it felt like they could have chosen a better path and redeemed themselves and they chose not to making it feel like their defeat was more justified. Kai, the villain who did the most redeemable thing any villain has done ( literally carrying Oogway's unconscious body for days to save his life ) is never given the chance the other villians where given and is treated with the least amount of empathy of any villain. By making him a villain that redeemed himself maybe instead the movie could have been a bit more about him and his journey ( since Poe already supposedly figured himself out in the 2nd ) and I think it could have made him a more memorable villain but instead he's the only weak villain in the Kung Fu Panda movies. I'm an adult who ranted about this a questionable amount of times in my life and half the time to people who didn't care and some of whom never even seen these movies nor ever had any interest in them. ...If only one day they could understand the importance of how Kung Fu Panda 3 was a disappointing third movie in comparison to the first two like me... ...Every night I cry myself to sleep thinking about this before dreaming of a world where everyone knows how great the first two Kung Fu Panda movies are and they all know how much worse the third movie is... ...That's when I wake up and realize its all sadly a dream that will never come true... ...That's when I cry again...
Man, what a tragic tale 😂😂 If your greatest sorrow in life is that one animation movie was a disappointment, compared to its predecessors, then you are truly living a fairy tale life. Most probably, the people you talked to had real life worries and concerns outside the "tragedy of an animation movie not doing justice to its fictional villain character".
HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON IS A BETTER TRILOGY THAN KUNG FU PANDA (Just want to rant because this third film got me really disappointed) The best trilogy for me is the How to Train Your Dragon movies. The story builds up through the movies with specific points for each one. But the Kung Fu Panda movies didn't even try to give the book end to a trilogy. It just rehashed the first and second movie's plot. -Kung Fu Panda is Po discovering the value of himself and that what gives value to a person is whatever they think of themselves. -Kung Fu Panda 2 is Po discovering his past and that someone's past doesn't define their whole life / value as a person. -Kung Fu Panda 3 is basically combining the lessons of the 2 movies which is Po confronting his past through his father (Kung Fu Panda 2) and then teaching the pandas how to be themselves (Kung Fu Panda 1). I think the writers were just getting lazy at this point and thought that taking some keypoints from the previous two movies and mishmashing them to create the third one would be a great idea. Unlike this trilogy, The How to Train Your Dragon trilogy has keypoints that are unique for each film and has an overarching story throughout the trilogy. -How To Train Your Dragon is the story of Hiccup and his friendship with a dragon named Toothless. The main keypoint is his relationship with his father and how his friendship with a dragon affected it. -How To Train Your Dragon 2 builds up on that. Hiccup and his father meet his lost mother and rebuilds their relationship. This only happened because of Hiccup's friendship with Toothless and the influence it brought throughout the village. The main keypoint is him losing his father and how it affects his friendship with Toothless. -How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World gives an ending to the overarching story which is his friendship with Toothless. The main keypoint is Hiccup with the loss of his father has to step up as the chief of the village. As the chief, he tries to save the village and the dragons by moving to the hidden world. But he is forced to pick sides and at the end he chose to let go of the dragons. Hiccup felt like a complex person that grows throughout the trilogy while events happen around him. Po on the other hand felt like a character that doesn't grow at all in his trilogy. Events happen around him and he grows but by the beginning of the next film, he goes back to his previous self. He's like a cup with a hole in it. The movie tries to fill him with water and by the end of the movie the water fills the cup. But because there is a hole, by the next movie he's now empty and the movie then tries to fill him up again with water. Edit: I have a limited vocabulary so I repeated some words "throughout" the rant.
Sry j I’m had to rant for a sec. I love httyd But I love all of the king fu panda movies but for dragons I only liked the first two. That last one was just bad I got no other words for it. Well maybe kung fu panda should have started with welcome to the village and ended with something like this is home but not really still tryina figure that out the characters are good. Villain ohh even more so you may have swinging jade blades, a connon and a dragon scroll but we have THE DRAGON WARRIOR. Lol I love the ending to the httyd movie they just got better but dang. Also book ending to dragons? Hiccup left the book open for us to decide which is nice but king fu panda got an actual conclusion not just a coin toss ending. We got a movie about the body po getting over himself not being fit like tigress and still being a badA$$ kung fu fighter but still learning and not a “dragon master” from the first movie like others. The second movie was mind about him learning where he he came from and what happened to his parents and comeing to peace with it. Which is pretty great. And the third was spirit(chi) or what makes you You not just where you came from. People apparently love to miss the obvious and just say oh he’s just learning about his past again which is a no. He already knows his past not he’s discovering what it is to be a panda and not just know you are. All three had some deep moments and some of the most hard hitting quotes from anything I’ve seen. The only good villain from dragons was the dragon queen.
@@emperorbelos6835 HTTYD 3 does have a pretty definitive conclusion with the dragons leaving. Whereas with KFP3 it just sort of ends with Po still being the dragon warrior but now knowing how to teach. Idk I’d have to agree with you but in the opposite way, KFP could’ve had a better conclusion
All of Kai's appearances are the best parts of the film. I too didn't get his motives at first but then I listened to the theories about Oogway being a ruthless greedy warlord along side Kai and Oogway was slowly turning good as he trained alongside pandas. They coulda made this theory fact, it'd give Oogway more depth.
I wouldn't say Kung Fu Panda 3 threw 2 out the window; throughout the previous films, Po was not entirely able to reconcile his identity as "a legendary warrior whose kung fu skills were the stuff of legend" with his identity as the son of who is essentially a glorified NPC, not to mention you called the ending reveal that Po's dad was alive as a cliffhanger. Also, Kai is voiced by J. K. Simmons; see if you recognize anything else he's in.
People talked highly of the third one? I'm not spitting on the movie but I'm in the concensus that the third one isn't better or more enjoyable than the first two but it's okay
I feel like even though he learned that it was all inside him all this time in the first two movies and him doubting his identity in this one because even though he accepted who he thought he was and a call from the past made him doubt himself so he had to found who he was a second time so that’s why it feels like he forgot what he learned in the previous movie
🔥🔥🔥🔥 The trilogy is interconnected.... Due to betrayal of oogway , Kai stole the chi which led the pandas to fleed away from mountains to the gong city and some other cities I guess..... Which caused shen's prophecy and that led to po being adopted ..... It in turn led po to become a dragon warrior ......which made up oogway's mind to go back to the spirit realm... There by opening path of po to stop evil like tai lung , shen.... Since po sent tai lung to spirit realm....Kai stole his chi to become more powerful , thus he could steal the chi of oogway thereby return back to mortal realme..... Thus he went back to take the chi of pandas' ......this led to defeating the warlord for once and for alll..... The fight that started between Kai and oogway Due to pandas , also ends Due to pandas...... A great cycle.......
I really enjoyed your reaction, it's great to see a different opinion on this movie than I usually see and I agree with the points you made. I was disappointed with KFP3 and haven't rewatched it since unlike the first two movies that I watch on a regular basis. Kai and the continuation of Po's journey are my main issues. It felt so cheap to basically get a rehash of the development he already got in the previous movies while at the same time contradicting the conclusions of his previous development. (Po going "I don't know who am I" again and again really annoyed me. I'm also not a fan of the implication that if Shen had succeeded in wiping out all the pandas, it would be impossible for Po to complete his journey.) And Kai is such a weak villain in comparison to Lord Shen and Tai Lung. I guess he'd be fine in a more generic fantasy action movie but KFP1 and KFP2 especially already set the bar so high regarding villains that it's really not enough. He has nothing going for him beside looking cool and a pretty generic backstory that neither makes much sense nor is it really delved into like those of the previous villains were. I wasn't a fan of the panda village either, firstly because it considerably cheapened the tragedy of the 2nd movie and secondly because it takes up so much screentime, shoves the Furious Five aside for no reason and doesn't provide anything interesting because all the pandas are basically the exact same character simply repeating the same joke over and over again. And then there's the whole mastering chi thing which nobody had to actually master or do anything for because the pandas suddenly just randomly knew how and Po could use it because reasons. I was awestruck when Po achieved inner peace and then used it against Shen in KFP2, I didn't feel a thing throughout the entire finale of KFP3. I guess I'm so critical of this movie because I like the first two so much so any major step down is a huge disappointment. The only things my family and I enjoyed about this movie was (some of) the humour and the pretty visuals. That doesn't make it horrible but it's definitely a bad ending of the series to me. (I don't think you talk too much, hearing your genuine thoughts on stuff that's happening on screen is the whole point.)
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 what’s wrong with taking these movies seriously just because the premise is intentionally silly? The themes and story are well-crafted and are definitely meant to be taken seriously (I mean there is blatant genocide as a focal point of the second one).
In the jade palace fight scene Kai said that Oogway betrayed him. You said that Kai betrayed him and that's true. But a bad guy's perspective is that what he's doing is everyone else's fault, he know that he betrayed Oogway but he denied that and believes that denial.
Concept of the movie was good, but the execution was just o bad. The over cheesy-ness was just distractin from the emotional points as well, villain doesnt feel threatening, stakes where i dont feel anything, dialogue is just , no. Gotta say the music was so goddamn epic ( the dragon warrior theme ). And oogway? Nah man pls let him rest in peace, i dont even get the message the movie is trying to give, "dont have to be anyone but your best"? Idk man its such a shame. I just hope the 4th movie isnt anything like this
Kung Fu panda 3 was the worst one out of all of them. Po meets his dad, pandas reunite, po fights Kai, po kills Kai, I didn't even like the last fight because it was just po playing with Kai, I wish it was a tough fight...
@@alshabiali6970 well I mean at least we got to see the EPIC fight between Tai lung and furious five and Tai lung vs shifu, plus it was the first film and it was the beginning of the story
I would say this movie is accurately rated. Not to many fans would put this one above the first two films but would still acknowledge it’s a fine film and certainly better then some of the stuff other animation studios are pumping out(Norm of the North for example)
HOW IS KUNG FU PANDA 3 OVERRATED!? LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYONE I KNOW SAYS IT'S THE WORST KUNG FU PANDA MOVIE AND KINDA MEH, OVERRATED!?!?!? MORE LIKE UNDERRATED
Yah I fully agree with you, the second movie was about him finding himself, and then the third having him constantly doubt who he is made me so frustrated. Obviously the idea is for him to progress from not only the dragon warrior to becoming a teacher, but its done really weirdly. The fact the pandas just happen to use chi because he told them they could be themselves is nice on paper but doesn't really work on screen. Also yeah, Kai's motivation makes 0 sense and I wished they'd made it better, especially considering how good the other villains had been.
No, him and Oogway were both evil warlords, you got that wrong. Oogway was the one who turned good, Kai just stayed evil, that’s why he said Oogway betrayed him.
I hate to admit it but she was being sarcastic the whole time about the movie, she felt it boring cuz she didnt even try to enjoy it, well whatever....
I saw many people talking about the motivation that kai lacked as a villian. motivation really!! Do anyone want any kind of motivation to become more and more greedy??. It tells us how one's mind can be ferociously transformed when one becomes more and more greedy. The dangers in having overwhelming desires, these movies are meant to highlight the different psychological aspects of human mind. If this has disappointed you, then you may have failed to notice that. Entertainment wise we all may have different opinions, or from a movie critic's point of view kf2 may be the best, but when it comes to deep understanding and insights kf3 is the best ever upgrade to put an end to this trilogy.
Yall gotta hear me out on general Kai… But I also think I know the motive of why he’s a villain. When oogway was in critical condition Kai dragged him for days to find help. And when he saw the chi that the pandas had, and how they can heal people, he must’ve wanted the chi to himself so he can protect oogway and that’s also why he didn’t see anything wrong with it, and that’s why he thought oogway betrayed him. That’s just how I see it.
Is not overrated it actually sucks,all them learn random in 20 seconds the Chi,Po fight the villain in 10 seconds and the villain also sucks ... the only thing good in the 3 are the scenes of the dads
Kai wanted all the chi all to him self and he's saying that oogway betrayed him but he didn't kai helped his old friend since their army but kai was the one who betrayed oogway oogway wanted to learn how to give chi but kai noticed that he could steal chi so oogway had to betrayed him
I think the reason why Kung Fu Panda 3 is overrated because they used bathos when it comes to the villains. Kai is a cool villain (best character design of them all) but he's not taken seriously by the villagers when he came back in the mortal world. The writing just drop a joke that doesn't mesh well in the scene. This is also the problem with MCU and Star Wars sequels. They don't trust their audience enough to catch our attention if it's not funny. Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 works because they know when to get serious and when to crack a joke. In this movie, they always have jokes all the time and became a parody of its own show. Good thing the characters and the production value are interesting enough to be a great film, but this movie does not live up to its predecessor. That's my two cents!
22:14 sacrifice was nothing because he could go back? Sacrifice was so much because when he sacrificed he did not know he could go back. True sacrifice-no knowledge of gain for Self in an act to aid others so they may-might continue.-Ernie Moore Jr. Just because Po Got to doesn't mean he could have acted in a way that he could not go back. And in case of a four-Only those jaded by bigbad would be returned.-Ernie Moore Jr,
Yeah, even from the trailers it just didn't seem like something that would interest me, so I haven't watched it except to see people's reactions and commentaries.
You look so amazing!! You honestly killed that look more than Ryan Reynolds. Anyway, I definitely agree with you! This movie is good but it’s not as iconic as the first film. They did have some funny moments but yeah.. a couple of jokes didn’t land well. And yeah, it’s weird that the characters didn’t keep what they learned in the previous films. Honestly, all of the characters are kinda.. two dimensional in this film. Though visually speaking, this is probably one of the prettiest of the films. Another thing I liked about the movie is that Po became a young Kung fu master. P.S. that Harry Potter joke.. *chefs kiss* beautiful
the dragon at the end was GORGEOUSLY animated...and the music of this film is rlllllyyy good!! probs why the ratings were so high on this film too - as well as loyal fans supporting it. still love kung fu panda's trilogy. just wont be rewatching this one as much if at all *shrug*
Kung Fu Panda 3 is bad because it's too focused on trying to keep us laughing. The only good things about the movie were Kai's appearence/theme and the camera shots. That's it. This movie was such a downgrade compared to Kung Fu Panda 2, and it should have been better! Or at least as good as Kung Fu Panda 2. This movie has a lot of issues, but for me, my biggest issue was that Po's father and the Panda villare were too lazy and silly. I wanted to know, how did these pandas not get tracked down and killed by Lord Shen? How have they hidden from the outside world for all these years? None of that is explained. This movie needed to be more serious, it needed to have a balance of seriousness and comedy.
Abit harsh on this movie you are lol. The first movie is definitely the best out of the 3. Perfect dialogue EVERYTHING. 2 and 3 however aren’t bad movies. In fact they’re actually very good movies especially the soundtracks. Just not as good as the first. Just use abit more imagination for the 3rd lol.
KFP3 is indeed weaker in plot points. there could have been more explanation about Oogway betraying Kai, the theory about Oogway was evil and reformed to protect his healer pandas is logical. there could also be stronger motivation for Po to return to Panda village, maybe had he or one of the 5 defeated/injured or conveniently Mr Ping injured during Kai's jombies attack, giving his character a more legit story arc to retreat to Panda Village and to learn chi to prepare for a showdown. That can also thicken the clash and Po's hate towards Kai. in the opening scene in Spirit Realm, they could have shoe-horned in Shen being Kai's apprentice, half-supported their common hate for panda, then Kai absorbed Shen so that he has enough chi to take down Oogway and that will really make Kai become a fearsome foe. But if all these happens, this movie will not be that kid-friendly and with lesser (not-so-funny) jokes.
I'm glad someone else gets it. I've gone years only watching the first two. They are perfect. However, I just watched the third one because the fourth is coming out soon. It wasn't terrible, but sometimes it felt like it should be on the Disney Channel, especially the Panda village. There were wayyyyyy too many fan service moments. I relate so much to this reaction, like every point you make.
my first gripe with that movie was that the dad panda seemed like a completely different character than the second movie. He was a fighter and a leader. He has a different more childish personality in this movie and it's not funny
A co-producer of this film is the China Film Group. They dispatched two hundred team members in Shanghai. Remember, DreamWorks was sold between KFP and KFP Three. This would account for the differences in writing and animation.
This was a Chinese coproduction so it was animated in China by an all Chinese staff. While the first two were made by the same dreamlworks team. I think the writers changed too There’s actually two different versions of the movie with English and Chinese lip flaps
