If you are a great defender you have to see it as disrespect… hes basically saying, as good as you are i can treat you like an infant lol. Although it is not disrespectful for us as viewers but simply entertainment
@@ImperiumOfLuther Sentiments like this are what's wrong with the world. Play is Play, my friend. As a sports person, you need to have a bit of ``child-likeness.`` They dribble you, you get up and keep it moving. keep the enthusiasm rolling, next you dribble someone else. That's it really.
@@agbugbachukwuemeka6739 play is play you are right. Doesnt mean its not disrespectful to do. No as a sports person you dont need child likeness at all its good to have but you need to know when to fight and when to mess about, its a mans game at pro level and not an exhibition. They are fighting for a trophy and a place in history to be immortalised and if you think people wont ridicule a defender for being rainbow flicked on the big stage then you are mistaken! It is disrespectful to try and embarrass someone and doing something like that is embarrassing and that naturally comes with the game! We are not saying Vini is a disrespectful player but pulling off that kind of move is disrespecting someone. Kyle does not want to be made a fool, especially in a game like that. If you cant understand that then you shouldnt be watching competitive sports because you dont know the difference between light hearted fun and serious competition. Those who dont take things serious lose most of the time! You dont give an inch otherwise your opponent will take a mile. It’s a cut throat mentality.
@@ImperiumOfLuther So what if a rainbow flick is the only option to get past that defender. How do you put a limitation on how a player should beat a defender. How do you even know whether or not he is thinking to embarrass the defender, when he's only playing by the rules. Dude game is game. You need to have an enthusiastic mind in sports and don't let fanatics get to you. All you need to be respected in a sports is hard work, doesn't mean you won't get done over once in a while. Sergio Ramos has been mesmerized many times by great players like Messi and Neymar, doesn't mean that he's not known for his great defending, good heading and acrobatics, that's the world of a defender. You have to put in work like Van Dijk. Complaining, labeling and limiting ones skill is an act of negativity and would not get you so far. Who are you to even stop a player from being skillful.
@@agbugbachukwuemeka6739a rainbow flick can’t be the only option to get through, you don’t see messi doing a useless rainbow flick that sends the ball 6 feet out.
If you're a defender you'll know wether it's disrespectful or not. A whole crowd can start taunting or shaming you after a move like that. It's important for your confidence. I know if you're a winger you wanna try your skills out. No issue with that. But on the flipside, if you're a Walker you won't like it or accept it one bit.
Yea but a foul would just be childish. Although I love the sport it is at the end of the day a game that they chose to play and fouling cuz u were not clever, fast, strong or skilled enough to stop it just proves the point similar to a baby throwing a tantrum when something doesn't go their way.
@mohamamdyahyaasadahmad3165 fouling actually achieves something because it stops the momentum for one and secondly it tells the winger don't try that again
@raphaelmapp8407 fouling is also unsportsmanlike for the most part. They are used tactically but not really something to be promoted. If that was okay then Suarez saving the goal with his hand was actually a fair enough play at the World Cup quarter-finals and I've actually seen people defend it. why should the winger not try it again? Because it makes the defender look bad? As long as it's a legal move that's that whereas a foul is not ofc. I know what I'm saying is a good bit impractical but to show conviction about it shows a childish ego that some players exhibit.
What is wrong with people nowadays? Now skills are disrespectful? If you are skilled defender you can take the ball and then showboat him , or do some other skills. Watch Eric Abidal, or Roberto Carlos etc.. they will take the ball and then show you better skills, they can showboat the player , nugmet him, or do other skills. I like to see showboat. It is a good skill
Imagine someone doing it to you in a champions league final pretty much. You have trained you're whole life for this game and someone trys embarrassing you to the world. Ain't no way you're gonna allow it n clap and be happy about it. Its crazy disrespectful even at Sunday league level
@@CB-ms2cq it is not embarrassing, if you are a skilled defender. This has never been an issue until the 2010s. What is embarrassing is lack of skills and intelligence of the game. If you are skilled defender it should be easily it is a matter of your body positioning. If you take the ball the player showboating will look stupid. Remember you havean additional the advantage of having your foot on the floor before him. The problem is that nowadays only very few defenders know how to defend one on one 1v1. Like Arsene Wenger said there is a lack of quality defenders nowadays. Walker himself base all his defending on his pace. Without his pace Kyle Walker is a below average defender.
@@PEEEZEEIt isn’t always about what a player “needs” to do, but like you say, establishing the range of attacking options at an attacker’s disposal (a form of getting in an opponent’s head), each of which the defender will need to consider before making a defensive action, is beyond what an attacker “needs” to do to beat a defender in a single moment of a 90-minute match-it is also preparing him for a greater likelihood of unpredictable, and therefore successful, 1-on-1 attacks, even as the match progresses and after the defender has dueled with the attacker many times.
Let's say an executive printed an important document in the font "Comic Sans MS" for your business meeting. Would you call that flair and pizazz or plain disrespectful ? Disrespectful right ? These guys are professional football players, they're not playing kickaround football. Everyone's got to maintain a professional attitude when they come for official matches.
@@srinivasanp.b9914it's all fair and well declaring it disrespectful.....however, you still haven't broken down the key reasons why this specific piece of skill is considered to be against decorum....
Why cant you rainbow flick the ball? If you’re good enough to pull it off, whats the problem? Neymar got set upon by Bilbao one time a decade ago for doing it. Aren’t we trying to encourage people to play with pizazz if they can?
No idea. Its a football trick, disrespect or not it should be allowed. If you got beaten by it thats your problem. Neymar shouldnt get carded by performing those
I don't think they're saying you can't, but as a defender if they do that and get past you it probably does feel shameful. That's what he meant by it realistically
Cause if you play like a child you need some man to teach you how to behave. Rainbow flick is not effective skill and mainly use to show off. If you use too many skill just to show off and no effective on a man , you should be punished for that disrespect.
@@Justinbuitravel if its not effective and you still got caught by it, like i said before thats on you. Effective or not thats depends on the players wanna do it or not. Got the ball stolen already a punishment in professional settings.
English players are confused.... Its Brazilian style of play... Kyle is programed from a young age to call that disrespectful..... Seriously confused 🎯
So why did roberto carlos didnot allow the same ball play against turkey 2002 world cup? After the guy got him ,he practicallly foul the turkish player.....he should have allow him now.
I'm not English, it's disrespectful... try that against even a Brazilian defender, like Thiago Silva and he might foul you more than Walker will, I promise you that! Then there is Sergio Ramos and Pepe! They're not English, would you try it against them? Try my friend, just try, you'll know how passionate they are about the game, their livelihood, their dignity!😃
I’m not English, grew up as a CB then a WB. A rainbow flick is absolutely disgusting behavior 😂 happened to me once - never again. That’s even what motivated me to learn how to do it so well.
I don't understand how they have re defined football skills as disrespectful. It has always been part of the game. So you guys should just say all skills are disrespectful including nut megging so that everyone just play plain passing, running and shooting so that we all see how boring the game will look. Nonsense. Maybe scoring goals will be labelled disrespectful in the near future.
He was surrounded by three man city players and the sideline. I don’t believe he planned it therefore it wasn’t disrespectful it was his football instinct. Some players plan it a second or two before the defender press but Vini had not a second as he was dribbling away from Silva and had to do something to beat Walker.
Makelele warn Ronaldinho the same way during the DISGRACE GAME (Chelsea vs Barça) Hey Ronnie, Don't ever try to do your PLAYSTATION trick on me or I send you to the Hospital. 🤣
Oh, the English and their “don’t stick out from the crowd” mentality. Perhaps, it’s one reason for their underachieving on the World Stage, despite their great talent. Try telling a Brasilian-whether attacker, midfielder, or defender (or even goalkeeper!)-that a unique or inspired skill executed at an unexpected and opportune moment is in some way more disrespectful to a defender than attempting to beat the player in any other way. This mentality must be quite oppressive to certain types of attackers-and almost certainly guarantees England is unlikely to produce a player in the style of Ronaldinho, Zico, Rivaldo, or even Vinicius and Neymar during my lifetime. For the sake of the development of the loads and loads of talented English youngsters, I hope this self-limiting mindset slowly begins to change!
You’re exactly right. And imagine if Ronaldinho had grown up in England instead of Brasil! What a waste of a one-of-a-kind talent he’d be, sending in crosses to the box without the tricks, skills, or originality!!
@@kidnamedfinger2840 Sure, but staying in context. A guy like Vinny, young and living in Europe, albeit Spain, has got all the incentives to at least learn the business language. And given the crap he faces in Spain, the abuse regarding the colour of his skin, he’d better get smarter and go after more education and invest right, because being black, stupid and rich often leads to poverty. (I am black, so I know a thing or two of what I am talking about) Edit: PS: It’s not about the skin colour, it’s about being a smart person, and acknowledge the position of privilege he finds himself at. Football is finite, so to earn millions and stay just as smart as the average cab driver is a fucking failure to me.
Egos talking! What do they mean "It's diSrESpeCtfUl"? A player's boxed in close to the line, his job is to beat you, he owes you no respect other than to not foul you or abuse you, everything else is fair, even if he literally breaks your ankles with a mad ass dribble. I for one think the rainbow fliock is a genuis move. More defending players are conscious of the space between their legs in close spaces and have their eyes pinned to the floor; they're not expecting you to go up. And for the attacker, there isn't always much room to move the legs for a conventional dribble. With a rainbow flick, you put the ball past your man and literally skip past him. It's brilliant, and a necessary skill in corners.
English players are not used to that kind of flair, for them football is systematic, for us in Nigeria and the South American teams, football is just pure magic
These Europeans will make football mechanical and robotic. This sport is unlike all other sports. Its as much art as it's a profession. This is why neutrals always support Latin American nations.
@@yty445Yeah but you can't cry abt your opponent trying to dribble past you 😂 thats part of the game. Foul him or whatever but dont cry abt it like it shouldn't be allowed or smth. Its a resource.
@PEEEZEE The essence of dribbling or trickery in football is to enable the player/team in possession to get away from the opposing player(s), break through rigid defence, etc. If the referee doesn't deem it fit to caution a player for doing stepovers, nutmegs, elastico, rainbow flick, 360 roulette, etc, I see no reason why it should be a problem to anyone. If you even said it's an unwritten rule in the game that a player isn't allowed to do a flick on an opponent, it would have made more sense.
@@pradabazino something missing from your explanation (besides conceding that you made a bad analogy) was that it gets a rise from the crowd and is intended to have a negative psychological effect on the defender. A rainbow flick is not your average dribbling, it makes you look dumb if you get done. Nobody is saying that it should be illegal or that it has no place in the game. Kyle is just saying "I ain't the one"
@@PEEEZEE The special one, Relax. You don't have any right in the world to tell another player what to do, or not do when they're in possession. You can just foul him and move on if you feel he's doing the most. Why should one care about your feelings during the course of the game, when the objective is to dismantle the defender(s) - be it psychologically or otherwise in order to get the W. After the game, we can talk about your feelings.
@@pradabazino You have a right to say whatever you want, dummy. Talking ish is a psychological battle tactic just the same as showboating is. Again, I don't think ANYBODY is saying there's no place for showboating in the game. They're just talking about a back and forth between two opponents, plain and simple
Never forget Ilhan Mansiz of Turkey did a rainbow over roberto carlos in a world cup semi final. And it worked. But he took him down from behind bc no defender would let them get away after that
That is not disrespectful dude, he is just trying a trick, something different so that he can try to get passed you. So glad you got eliminated, you definitely don't have the right attitude. Oil City
Not sure if people got this or not, but when a defender says "disrespectful" he means for him personally. He's not calling Vini disrespectful, he just means as a defender he personally sees it as disrespect when a player tries something like that the same way a striker would feel disrespected by a keeper megging him or the likes
Rivalry between vini and walker is the best in nowdays football, both of them didn't give up even if one of them is better at that moment, and they fight but they bot have big respect each other.
In my opinion if Im a defender and I get someone like vinnie trying to do some skillful move I should admire and respect him that's if I love sport. And If I love the sport I get better to try to stop him. Now its disrespect to pull a very skilled move nowadays? Its becoming robotic
People when players like Neymar, Saint Maximin, Antony, Richarlison pull off tricks: showboating! Disrespectful! Also people in the comments section: players should do that more
@@Alexander-ry3dx compare? Who compared who? I just said they all pull of beautiful tricks and people would bash on them. Neymar got a yellow card for showing tricks and I want to see those lovely moves. I enjoy football more than you do
Let's say an executive printed an important document in the font "Comic Sans MS" for your business meeting. Would you call that flair and pizazz or plain disrespectful ? Disrespectful right ? These guys are professional football players, they're not playing kickaround football. Everyone's got to maintain a professional attitude when they come for official matches.
