KZ HBB PR2 - Best Planar Money can Buy!! 

Thankfully i bought my PR1 Pro for $42 (early discount). definitely Worth the money but i might sell it, if pr2 is better in my ear, the amount of effort to tame PR1 Pro treble is a bit much Tough it may takes another month before it arrive. Also to note. Pr1 pro have better cable, slightly better shell, and brighter tone for treble head.

and also pr1 pro is comparatively easy to drive as compared to pr2

I am actually still happy with my choice of going with the Pr1 Pros.

Let's Hope we who bougth pr2 for 36-48 dollars regret it in the next planar by kz for being even cheaper

Just bought 54$ with tax

Ordered mine a couple of days ago, not shipped yet, I geuss they have huge amount to ship, will be interesting to see how they compare to my timeless for £36 lol.

Apologies I will endeavour to put chapters. Thank you for your support

my pr1 pros were fried on double ended output in 15 minutes I didnt realise they were so stupidly sensitive, I have pr2 now and they are incredible but the short while my pr1 were alive showed a slightly more natural timbre in the mids, and more extension in the high range, not enough to get excited about

what is the Max variant? can't find it

@@matrixmodulator they don't exist, as 3rd week of may 23... But we talk about KZ, they upgrade a new release

​@@matrixmodulatorthey brought out a pro version for the pr1. He's betting there will be a pr2 pro. I doubt hbb will tune the pr2 pro. Reviewer usually only do 1 collab. I can't think of a consistent iterative iem upgrades.

They're like $90 at the moment, what price are you waiting for them to hit?

@@innovance3788 I’m unable to get it at this price, it’s more like $160.

@@colddish That sucks. How come you can't get it at that price?

@@innovance3788 not sure. I mainly get my iems from Lazada or direct from TaoBao and all are priced at its original selling price.

The diagram from Kz marketing page shows its a close back with decorative mesh. PR2 also share mostly same PR1 pro driver (kz second gen planar, different with first gen in pla13, pr1hifi/bal) It have different tuning damper and mild change so it will graph more consistently

@@r31ya The side vents are open - hence the PR2 is semi open back.

I'm glad I only really caught on to these planars now that it's reached what seems to be the cheapest set with arguably the best tuning.

@@andydj261 as far as I know there are no (semi)open back planars made by KZ.

@@andydj261 there is a transparent closed resin shell inside of the pr1 the grill is just slaped on top as a decoration. I cant see any reason why the pr2 should have a different design. They also say it on the website, its just decor. ... didnt see them in person but once they will arrive I can confirm.

yes they are. PR2 is way more capable .Thank you for your support

I have not heard PR1, but compared to 7Hz Timeless the PR2 is very monochrome in tonal colour, it doesn't really show the timbre of different types of instruments

They changed the tuning, the PR2 V2 currently on sale is not the same IEM as reviewed here.

@@blorg8206 interesting, why would they do that? I ordered another pair in the $32 range, I'll be curious to compare it with the release pair. Why in the hell would they change the tuning and drop the price from its already unbelievable position? Do you have any source I could see for that?

IEM cables don’t make a difference in sound. Fact, even if you don’t like it.

I've heard a discernable difference in tone and timbre in the same set of IEM's across multiple different types of cable materials and manufacturers. Whether it would present on a graph, I would say that no, it probably wouldn't have a statistically measurable difference on a graph. It is, however, akin to saying that changing the pickups in your guitar from humbuckers to single coils will have no difference on your tone, and we have years of objective and subjective data to prove that assertion incorrect.

@@MrPhenix21 point at ANY objective evidence for me please. Your comparison with single could vs humbucker pickups is just nonsensical (I am a guitarist)

@@HeliBenj My original comment was an expression of my experiences with cables, not an abject assertion of unassailable "fact". I'm not interested in attempting to somehow prove or disprove anything I've experienced to you, that is a colossal waste of time and energy in this case. If I have the experience that specific cables with specific materials change the way a set of IEM's sound *TO ME*, what proof of that can I offer another person? Moreover, what need to I have to prove to you that I hear something different? I have no need of that. I have no need of being right on the internet. If you had engaged me with a question about why my experience with that particular cable was what it was, that would've been an entirely different conversation. That didn't happen, unfortunately. As for the guitar pickup comparison, I'm sure you can figure it out. You seem to be someone who knows some things about some things, and I'm certain you can figure out what I was aiming for with that comparison, should you wish to. I won't be part of that discovery, because I'm out. Have a great day on the internet.

More power and easier to drive.

If your amplifier circuit is actually balanced, 4.4mm offers double the power, and less noise. If your amplifier only offers the 4.4mm socket for convenience, then there's no difference.

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@@akros9333 what about a VE Megatron?

@@oaktowndimond668 that would work very well

Dude if you don't have it or heard both just don't justify what's in your head

@@migracing8232 don't justify what's in my head ?? What have you been smoking bruh 🤣

@@migracing8232 the difference between the PR1 pro and PR2 aren't worth the $40 in my opinion...i would rather put the $40 towards the venture electronics SIE or even the penon serial/fan

@@dave91863 Dude like I said if you don't got it just keep quiet, I've both and Pr2 is an upgrade over pr1 pro.

@@migracing8232 don't tell me to keep quiet, I don't believe you have both stop lying and keep of the drugs

I love the bass on the 0H10, but the upper mid / lower treble is too much in the end. It’s also heavy, and I moved to lighter planar myself.

@@joefilter2923 ty

According to HBB, Expected sales number affect the price. KZ and HBB hopes the collab will bring higher sales number so they could priced it lower. Also need to note, PR2 also came with cheaper cable and plastic shell compared to the better cable and resin shell in PR1 pro.

I think they are hitting and exceeding the target. People are waiting for sets to be shipped, so it means distributors are waiting for stock to be manufactured. It's good KZ are trying to win back the consumer after previous shenanigans, and hopefully, they don't mess up again.

KZ are doing a Xiaomi strat where they win in sale numbers to get better reputation.

@DesTiNy_XD after the fake driver nonsense ect they needed to work on thier reputation lol.

Well I have had it hooked to my RA2B-FE and had the volume turned up way past half way without any problem....

@@akros9333 thanks.. I think I will go with the pr2 secret revision number 3, have an example available found today.. It's like the pr1 hifi but more bass, less v or u shaped, forward mids. It might even be a pr1 hifi it's bright silver and looks the same.. I like it anyway and was able to try it on my gear.. I really appreciate your videos very helpful for this hobby. Thanks for all the hard work...btw this is Indonesia it's a test bed for many iem companies

Will give you a good answer in a video I am making

@@akros9333 thank you so much for your response. Looking forward to the video.

​@@akros9333did u ever make this video

D-Fi is better tuned, more natural sounding. The PR2 V2 is very bright in the high treble. PR2 V2 is much more detailed, higher resolution though.

Well compared to PR1 Pro ....PR1 Hifi and even the P1Max the PR2 does sound a little darker....let's not forget we talking Planar so if you looking for the usual Planar openess it's not there . Of course this was tuned that way, and also my opinion is based on my ears and musical taste/selection

If you want more treble, you're in luck, as they removed the treble damper in the PR2 V2. The treble level on it now is basically identical to the PR1 Pro. It has way more treble over 8kHz than any of the T4, Aria, Khan.

Yes you are right....I guess I should have done that....my apologies. I can always make that comparison. The reason I used the Heyday was because it was very much like the PR2 past 10k

@@akros9333 no problem friend. I ordered a pr2 last week but something is wrong with the parcel. It can't be tracked and I can't get a hold of the customer service. It took me a lot to give kz another chance after the shit storm last year and it looks like it will take another year for the next haha

I think throughout KZ's history, they have always done that. They just keep releasing new models in a (relatively) rapid cycle that sit side by side or just supercede older models. I think they themselves just bank on the initial sales and know very well that they're own models will cannibalize the older ones. They keep things cheap that a wider diaspora will almost always be able to afford their sets. This sub 50$ excellence of IEMs race has only been going on the past 2 yrs. KZ knows very well now, like all other brands, that now they're playing for the first 2-3 weeks after release for bulk sales till the next contender gets hyped by some reviewer. As Akros said, some people are still going to buy sets based off their preference, while others who seek more versatility will try going for sets like 7Hz Zero, Tin T3+, KZ PR2 pro, etc. I am just afraid this race to the bottom only serves a very small piece of the pie for all companies. EVERYONE is playing a hit or miss game now in the sub $100 market.

Because sales. With HBB name stuck to it, with it having relatively good tuning, it's bound to sell a lot of units. More than 600+ units in the first few days in Ali

@@VanDungLe2510 I didn't mention the obvious. HBB himself said that's the plan. And as Akros said, he killed the market.

I think pr1/pro is discontinued as of now and I believe something changed in KZ management as well, since they are moving from doing tuning that most ppl don't prefer to more mainstream tuning with good value products that will dominate the market and kz would get a better reputation(kinda a Xiaomi strat)

@@destiny_xd9126 I'm getting the same feeling. In the earlier days of Chifi, KZ was one of the firsts and also the one to spread international, and give a big bang for buck performance vs the likes of Shure. They didn't need to listen to audience, reviewers nor go the extra mile for specific tunings - they were indeed the ones that broke the market. KZ's tuning till the last year or so, never went beyond the elevated bass shelf and multiple upper-mid and treble peaks with cramming of drivers. Now with so many collaborators, highly tuned sets and better drivers, its the reviewers/influencers that making the big part of marketing a set, and here they are forced to play along and tune things well, if they want to be seen through the eyes of customers who follow reviewers like HBB. People now also know what a well tuned set is, and sound likes. This one is their redemption arc.

My friend I was referring that the PR2 phase one sets where pretty good but as I also mentioned the PR1 Pro still stands for me as the best Planar KZ has made

You wish if they gonna refund it lol. There's no reason to. Pr1 pro has better cable and newer gen/easier to drive driver. Besides, it will have the sales to make up for the cheaper price

😂 man complains about cheap planars

​@@alexc7857 he maybe was one of the guys who were crying because Epic gave the GTA5 for free

A company is "scamsters" for literally releasing a new product for a lower price. Do you ever listen to yourself?

@@araakin yes scamsters. Can they justify selling a recently released previous model (pr1 pro) at double the price. Pr2 is considered to be an upgrade to pr1 pro. Upgrade version at less than half the price of recently released previous model? How pr1 pro guys gonna sell their set in second hand market