L2A2 SUIT 4x Sight Followup: Fails On The Range And Is Replaced With Primary Arms SLx 3 

I can't believe the title isn't "Broke on the range"

Can’t fault that SUIT for accuracy as it got you right between the eyes.

You might say the epoxied mount just wasn’t… *SUITable*

Wait, this was epoxied from the factory?!? I thought someone sold you a lemon...

A very good demonstration on why eye protection is just as important as era protection.

Safety on in micro seconds and set in the rest....Good job Bloke!. A lot of people just drop the rifle on the table or worse the floor when injury occurs.

Bleeding hell. Glad it went high and didn't smash your specs or hit your eyes. Have a drink on us, and good luck at the comp. This comment was sponsored by ATORA.

20 points to Griffendor for not not swearing on camera (despite clear and obvious provocation).

Dang, you kept your composure there. Pretty sure my reaction to something blowing up in my face would have been unbroadcastable.

Glad you are ok. In my unit they were quietly dumped back in the armoury. Might even still be there for all the use they were. Good luck too!

"Civvy, walt, knut" I know exactly what website they frequent. Good old arrse.

i have never seen that failure before, looked just a bit painful. as for keep taking the S.U.I.T on and off was always a NO NO. once mounted on the top cover and zeroed it stayed on the top cover. As part of the company and Battalion shooting team, firing on different types of shoots like the Bisley ripple shoot ect , we fired a hell of a lot of rounds with S.U.I.T and Iron sights. we carried our original top cover and just swapped them over, so as not to disturb the S.U.I.T . It was what it was for the time , Today there are so many choices of sights . Hope you get it sorted

That brief moment when you shoot, feel a stinging pain in your face, and your mind flashes an image of a breech failure as your vision blurs. Glad it was just the bloody scope and not anything worse.

They were initially only issued in my unit to Marksmen as the saying was that 'it would only benifit a good shot'. Not sure what the reasoning behined that was but, as a marksman I carried one in Belfast in 1975. they were known to zero-shift if you removed them from the top rail so they were left on. the spring was a known weak point and i had one fall of on the pipe range , after that I made sure i had a new spring and never removed the sight from the rail in the whole time i had one. It wasnt terrible, but it was on an SLR and it was rare on the range for in service SLR's to make it all the way though a mag without some kind of stoppage, so matched the rifle nicely! The SLR gets great press now, but in the 70's and 80's we were gagging to get rid of it, and get an M16, AR18 or even maybe some HK....unfortuanatly look what we got as a parting gift from Enfield! 😥 P.S it was ALWAYS pronounced Sooit Sight Unit Infantary Trilux

Never, ever heard it called anything but "soo-it". That said, don't remember it doing 'that' to someone either - presumably the epoxy has lost cohesion/stength over the last four decades? You are almost certainly correct about the amount of shooting done using SUIT rather than iron sight. It was not hugely used, even in an Inf Bn not everyone would have one (far from everyone had an SLR, come to that) and as far as I remember all competition shooting at Bisley and elsewhere was done with iron sights; if there was any competition shooting with SUIT it was probably limited to Bn - level SAAMs. With iron sights, and one LSR set up for ETR, another for Gallery, we were regularly hitting the Fig 11 at 500yards. That was due to shooting 6 or 7 days a week for several months prior to Bisley - it was taken seriously back then!

Glad you’re ok bloke, these vids are making me not want a SUIT for my L1A1 clone.

Just watched you an Henry talking about this. Glad it was just a bit of shock to face and no serious damage done to you. Shame your gear decided it was time to permanently retire. Good luck in Finland!

The old Crown Royal bag, excellent for storing all sorts of junk.

Good to see you're still with us. SMLE under the clock when? :)

Your observations are bang on. Sub-optimal nails it.

so you are telling me that not only the soviets copyed the worst possible scope on the market, but that they actually IMPROVED it into an usable piece of equipment??? damn you ivan.

That auto disassembly feature is years ahead! Glad you are alright though.

Glad to see your ok, that Primary Arms sight is fantastic, I mounted one on my PTR 91.

Hi my brother had the same issue with this sight when he was in North Ireland and he got the same scar on his head so it did happen, but most of them took them off wasn't happy with it, my brother had wished he had taken it off throw scope in the bin when he got the the scope with the rifle, he said the rifle was beautiful and best without the scope, he just saw the video and he said the new items you have put in it best thing you have done and maybe you could put on a 10x50 wide angle rifle scope

Man, that sucks it whacked you in the face, but at least you got it on video!

Was impressed you weren’t swearing in every language you know after that!

Well at least it wasn’t a Kentucky Ballistics incident.

This is like the IT crowd "made in Britain" joke where more things are on fire as it goes on. I didn't know how shit this thing was until now

The SLX 3x is an excellent optic, probably the best money I have paid for shooting equipment. It has good eye relief, clear optics, a very handy reticle, and sufficient illumination at least for northern Europe. 3x is a good compromise and the field of view is wide enough to not cause problems with close targets. The best feature is the size and weight, pretty much equal to an Aimpoint T2! The only negative is the illumination adjustment, it does not have clear detents and it is sometimes difficult to find the "off" position between the "on" positions. An acceptable fault at this price.

That's one advantage to wearing glasses. I'm following from 9-hole reviews. Best of luck in Finland.

Man, something like that is always incredibly scary in those first couple of seconds until you have at least a remote idea of what the heck happened and just how big/small the new holes in the location of pain is. Glad you are ok. Definitely an interesting choice of construction there. Oof.

Glad you're okay and your glasses weren't broken.

ABSOLUTELY MINT Glad you got away with only a nick. I had a case rupture in my Spanish M93, luckily the lugs held and nothing broke but the shell. Still, goes to show how necessary those gas cuts were. Glad you caught it and got away from it clean-ish

I bought a similar broken SUIT sight at one of the famous "War and Peace" shows in the UK. The back half was still OK (apart from the light giving stuff having long expired) but the front half was missing. I think I paid about £40 for it and it laid for a long time in a box, until I designed a tensioning mechanism for it - along with a frontal elevation piece. It didn't look as svelte as the original - and I did purchase a battery run light to replace the original insert. But it worked - and it worked very well on my HK91 clone. Unblemished ones are going for over a Grand on the proper channels. I'd love to get my claws on a SUSAT as well in good time.

This is sad. I hope your injury get recover fast.

I’ve got 3 of those 3x prisms and they are pretty great for the money. Not quite acog quality but for 300 bucks it’s impossible to beat.

I saw a few self-disassenbled SUITs here in Oz, a bunch of decades ago. The actual optic with its "inverted" post (actually a pretty good idea) and Tritium gas illumination was quite a neat package, but the mechanical design of the "mount" was not so good. The mount appears to have been die-cast from an aluminium alloy with very little thought given to the sort of stresses and "transient" forces commonly faced by optics mounts. In brilliantly illuminated hindsight, the M-193 Picatinny rail system is a more robust arrangement. Come to think of it, the Hensholdt scope rigs developed for the Bundeswehr G1 were pretty solid, even though a slight update of the WW2 ZF 4 setup, fragile steel tensioning bands and all.. The base on the dust-cover is probably OK. There is probably some clever enthusiast out there who could CAD up a new "mount", eliminating potential "stress-risers" in the process and then machine it from something like 7075 billet. Titanium would be nice, but it is horrible stuff to machine. I'm sure there are more than a few folks with those capabilities in the land of the SiG and the Alpenhorn. BTW, how is the Tritium "vial"? Or just stick with the Primary Arms optic...... , BTW

That looked unpleasant, impressed you kept your sense of humor. I purchased three inch pattern FALs from century arms and other than the weight and the thumb hole stock. I've been pleased. They came with the sheet metal dust cover and I installed one cast aluminum dust cover for scope mounting.

Full marks for not swearing. Clearly not from Glasgow. Ya basa.

The rifle and optic turned you into harry potter 😂

I have same scar. :-) .50 cal muzzleloader, 150 gr load. First shot with new/used rifle. Set up for short guy with shorter pull legnth.

It didn't just fall off did it? Ooh! Nasty!

glad you are ok!! wasn't expecting that !

Always known it as suet signt . Glad you're ok.

Subscribed, started on the plastic training ammo video. Noticed your marksmanship fundamentals were outstanding. Had to watch some more. Sorry about that scope bite, but your videos are fantastic and informative. A refreshing change from the all so common, operator/larp wannabe.

As a retired Royal Marine Armourer that was a very common incident in the late 70s and 80s a known defect on the Susat

Good job not bleeding everywhere. I've gotten cut there before and bled for so long

OUCH! That fecking hurt just watching let alone being on the receiving end!

I would love a little review of the Optic after finish brutality. and Gut Schuss in Finnland

Wow! Glad you're okay besides the knock on the head. Thanks for all the great content!

Glad you're okay Mike, that could have been nasty. Been thinking lately it's kinda wild that the 1P29 ended up being a better version of the SUIT than the SUIT was itself

Whoa I think your glasses softened the blow also you said "antediluvian" which is a cool word.

Glad you didn't get too badly hurt when the scope blew to shrapnel!

Glad to see it didn't break any face bones. Damn.

A great advert for eye protection

Well, le flegme britannique nearly survived being bashed between the eyes by a faulty optic. He didn't bellow like a bull at least.

Holy shit... That looked like it hurt. I'm glad that you're ok!

Ha- broken three myself...including having one removed by a tree branch.

It's really awesome you got it all on camera! We are glad you are ok but it's really sad that it's one less Suit sight in circulation. Judging by the group you shot while breaking the scope it looks like the epoxy broke/sheared first and then the aluminum parts broke at the bottom. Crazy

My gosh. I am so glad you’re alright. That looked horrible.

Ah good to know your L1A1 needs to be on that closed of a gas setting. Mine dances between 3 and 1 depending on the ammo and I always thought something was wrong with it needing to be so closed off. Ended up changing the recoil spring, piston spring, piston all to no avail. Was about to look at replacing the BGC but won't bother now.

Nice use of Antediluvian!!!

Glad your ok bloke, its a shame your suit sight broke.

Surprisingly high energy impact. Good thing it did not do more injury.

Ouch on the L2A2 SUIT failing. If you shoot long enough, these things will happen. Had some rare optics and ammo failures mainly while in the military. Glad you are ok.

If you're having to set gas at 2 you might want to check the gas tube for a split/crack in the threaded area. Its easy to do. Remove gas plug and piston and spring. Handguards off, lever the gas reg ring retaining spring off, let it and reg ring slide down tube. Using a pin punch drive the gas tube fixing pin out and unwind the gas tube, inspect. If all good use something like the plastic tube from a CRC spray can to poke in the top of gas block as you wind gas tube out( after winding it all the way in) so as to not cut all the gas off. Plastic tube should go thru into barrel. It's easy to figure it out.

Hard to believe your glasses survived with that nasty cut. Glad you’re ok and good luck at match. It’s a little hard to believe that was an issued optic even for its day.

Glad you are ok. Learning something all the time.

I have read British troopers during the "Troubles" in northern Ireland intensely disliked the L2A2 SUIT 4x Sight due to mount failures and unreliable hold to zero . When it work it was brilliant piece of "kit" but the mounts would failed in the middle of IRA ambushes or the loss of zero would mean lead to civilians getting hit by stray rounds meant for IRA gunman. Although your were stunned and had the CaCa scared out of you, I read a story of a British trooper in the 70s who was not wear any eye protection had his L2A2 SUIT 4x Sight suffer a similar mount failure. The Scope hit him in the eye with the nasty sharp aluminum edges you show 03:18 in the video and ripped up his eye so bad he lost his eye. Good Thing you were wearing Glasses things could have been a lot worse.

Thanks very much for the great video!!!

Very glad you had it fail on the practice range instead of in the field.

Wow, I haven't seen anyone take it to the face like that since prom nite! Glad your ok and remember, chicks dig scars!

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the SLx holds up.

9 hole reviews sent me 😮

I rate this: two "oof"s and a "bruh"

Pucker factor 10/10. Eyes, fingers, arms and face still intact? Whew!

Wow ,that's scary but interesting, won't be pulling mine on and off on a regular basis, good shooting keep feeding us more video's thanks.

Damn Bloke! So sorry!

I see, a proper Rak Abzeichen.

You may have convinced me to try an SLx 3x on my Aussie L1A1 CAI Frankenfal. I have been less than convinced to keep the DSA rail on mine because I feel it kills the aesthetics and also because I don't feel that I have a SUITable (sorry, had to do it) optic to mount without adding too much weight to a relatively light and handy rifle.

My SUIT broke in exactly the same way as your's.

Good luck on Finnish Brutality next weekend!

Damn guess that answers that question I just finished watching 9 holes video

If nothing else, it's a good demonstration of recoil forces!

The full-fat suet site!

That hit looks worse every time I see it.

Just filmed a great ad for shooting glasses

And this is why you wear Eye Protection!

I feel so bad my first reaction was to chuckle

9 - Hole

After working the butts in 1971+ @100 yards back then, the lads with the C1 were for the most part not getting the tightest groups on Herman with iron sights. It was a stretch calling it game getting accuracy. You would have got the marksman patch.

Your a Wizzard Harry ! think i’d be throwing that sight in the bin !

ouch ouch that smarted bloke 🤕🤕🤕🤕keep up with the excellent content bestest from Scotland

Your reaction to the incident was a demonstration in British self control. I would have used French swear words even Chap probably never heard. Also, good lord the puns in the comments are stellar.

Quick! Ring Injury Lawyers 4U. There's a lawSUIT in this.

The only thing I can say about your SUIT incident is, "HA HA", lol. I've been there too, and I got laughed at also. Thanks for the video.

usually the rivets simply shear, very interesting, a failure mode i haven’t seen.

You have been marked for life by the curse of the SUIT.

HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

Can you do a video breakdown of how you get a live fal and gear through to Finland and back? That’s fascinating to me.