L86A1 Weapon Review (It's so Awkward...) | BattleBit Remastered Gameplay 

I honestly think the L86A1 needs a bigger magazine for starters, not 30 rounds but more like 45.

Give the support a gadget that enables him to repair armor of others and maybe himself like the medkit does for HP.

The other ARs do more damage, have better recoil control, and have the same magazine size as 2 of 4 of the guns the support class can use. There's no incentive to really use them. There needs to be a buff not just to the weapons, but the class, to encourage people to use them more.

Since I have the game Support is my main class Instantly building barrikades and giving people some ammo is so fun to me, I just wish we were rewarded for building (Like a bit of exp for barrikades on objectives and such) More weapon choice would also be epic

The option of a two round burst has been helpful along with attachments to reduce the horizontal recoil. Put a medium optic on and it becomes a fun midrange marksman weapon that can countersnipe in a pinch.

The best part of using this gun was having 4 grenades

I think all support weapons should have a bipod built in, since irl they pretty much always are. Being able to get a steady shooting platform to SUPPORT your team with volleys of high damage fire would make it so much more viable. On top of that, it would be nice if they implemented a bipod system more like that in Insurgency. I tried using the bipod on the M249 and instantly regretted it. Unless you're prone or aiming horizontal or down, the bipod doesn't help at all. If anything, it's a net negative SOMEHOW. Worse recoil, worse, ADS, worse reload times. I don't see a reason why you'd use bipod in this game.

I played Support almost exclusively up to rank 70 or so. Going from the L86 to the SAW and then the MG36 was quite the ride that a lot of people miss out on lol

Support is my favorite class. I'm very sad by the limited choice of weaponry available. Camikaze I would appreciate it if you showed off the support classes weapon choices first due to the lack of choices.

I think the point of it is using a damage-boosting barrel to cut one shot to kill on headshots, which is a crazy TTK (worth the tradeoffs or it'd be OP). I'm very surprised you haven't mentioned it!

bump up the reload speed on the 30 mag, and remove the recoil penalty on the 55 mag.

idk how hard this would be to add to your build graphics, but id love a "kills required" note added somewhere or mentioned when talking about the setups.

clan c78! Yea, thanks for covering the l86. The default mag being the H&K mags, which are 45 rounds, would be a great tradeoff. And the Quick mag goes down to 30. There would be a reason to choose between the two. Once you get the quick mag, there's zero reason to use the default. On night maps I like to run the long suppressor on it and sneak around. Works well. This was a hard gun to really level up, but once you get 100 kills, you kinda get the muscle memory and attachments to run it the best.

Try running the long barrels. Going from 4 to 3 shot is amazing. If you find it inconsistent because of armor,start shooting for leg a bit like in tarkov. But you still do max damage on limbs.

Hey Cami, how do you get the stats for the different reload times (tac reload / long reload)? Is there a page somewhere where you can read up on it?

These videos are rly good man! Great that you get some stats in so ppl can compare and don't just go "ah its good bc it feels good" (even tho thats important too). Do you think you will do these for all weapons?

The one thing i hope support gets to make it more viable is to auto resupply people when you throw ammo down and get exp for it. Even if its lower than it currently is, nobody ever uses the support ammo boxes because they are so rarely thrown and so small to see. People auto resupplying would make it so its a good competitor for exp while having a bigger gun than a medic (More kill oriented support while still being a support)

I’ve gotten a good chunk of kills with it but I agree it still needs a balance. The damage is good enough I started to use it like something between an AR and a battle rifle. Full auto for close combat but burst or taps to get headshots at mid range. I think it adds a fun new approach to the support class that isn’t just the heavy from tf2

Since release, I have been playing nearly exclusively support and I got to say that my favourite feature of support is the instant building of barrikades. It's just so fun to instantly create cover and to fortify a position, even so that I max out my waist high walls every game. But yeah, the L86A1 is rough, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, in form of the proper LMG.

What about the long/heavy barrel attachment for the L86? It cuts down point black ttk to 0.155, the second fastest in the game (Scorpion EVO 0.150)

No mention of heavy/long barrels? L86 is I think the only gun right now that crosses the btk threshold with 33.5dmg. It’s ttk drops considerably on that.

I used a machine translation from Japanese, so it may be inaccurate. If you add "long barrel" or "heavy barrel", it becomes a monster with TTK 0.155, so it looks very strong. But... it was very hard because it needs 300 kills.

It needs less recoil, a bipod option and a bigger mag snd it's fine I think?

I'm still grinding Support, but my L86 has definitely gotten more reliable as I've been unlocking attachments. The stock reload speed is the most glaring issue imo

I think a true to form bipod would go a long way with L86A1

When using bipod, do u have to engage them to use them? Or do they engage themselves automatically when the icon appears at the bottom right of the screen?

I go for a heavyily kitted out L86 loadout that allows me to stop SMG rushes and also lockdown a medium-distance chokepoint with an ACOG. 11 kills in one life is pretty typical when you're on the frontline. You can move around fairly quickly and mow down squads that are stacked up on each other without worrying about mag capacity. Medium-distance kills are very easy if you know how to spray control the full-auto burst (I avoid two-round bursts). Loadout: ACOG (with canted sight holo), heavy/long barrel, magpul angled grip. Personally, I'm using the heavy barrel lately since I can spray with it easily close range and it also has the additional velocity + damage that's helpful over longer ranges. I'm pretty torn on whether I should just outright use the long barrel since it has less downsides. I mostly picked it because I don't care much for first shot kick. I like acog because it's easier to adjust for very long ranges.

Is there a button to swap weapon firing mode in this game? So far when I have tried this gun it has only been set to burst fire.

As someone with over 500 kills with the gun, I think this video misses the mark a bit. Completely agree it's a harder to use gun, but the DPS on it cannot be understated, it's in the top 5 highest DPS weapons in the game. The build that works the best for me is > Red dot / strikefire > Long barrel (KEY, as it brings the BTK against limbs from 232 to 155ms, 2nd fastest in the game and Headshots from 3 to 2 which is like 77ms) > Quick Mag (Helps with the long reload without hurting handling stats too much) > B25-URK (Again for the reload and helps slightly with recoil) Any support with Exo armor and this setup can 1v1 any other build in the game and thus makes it great for pushing. The small-feeling mag is alleviated by grenade spam which is imo one of supports biggest strengths that doesn't get enough credit. You can start with 4 grenades AND refill with the ammo box. Stuck in a spot and can't push until team comes up? Build! Everything instant builds for support which is huge if you channel your inner roblox. Unfortuneately I think support is a little more micromanagement than people are looking for in an FPS, and it will feel weak if you aren't using all of these strengths. If you try to play a support like a run-and-gun medic, you will be very disappointed.

Since the playtests, I've been using the AK15. I find the M4 and Ak ridiculously boring and the raw damage of the Ak15 just feels so good. That being said, even with the best mods, you're looking at a 1.80-1.40 recoil pattern so... you're fighting a mule. But I love the challenge even though many prefer other weapons. I'd love to see a review on it

The L86A1 is my FAVORITE weapon in the game for many reasons, but mostly it comes down to how I play support. It is by far my most played class in the game, with me racking 915+ kills on that weapon alone. For starters, I play support with a HEAVY, not EXO vest. I like the little added extra movement speed and the extra mags a whole lot and, because of that alone, the L86A1 already feels a lot better, since now I don't feel like I'm chewing through my already low supply of mags and need to resup. Now when it comes to the weapon, I love how fast it can shoot and how relatively accurate and effective it is at medium ranges. With a long/heavy barrel you can achieve a three shot kill to some targets, which is always super dope. You can also equip a drum mag and spray bullets down without worrying much about reloading, which is also a really cool thing about the weapon. By far, my favorite way of using it is with a long suppressor + vertical grip combo, it is relatively accurate and does the job well while also being silent. As mentioned previously, the HEAVY amor really complements this playstyle of mine and I would really recommend other people giving it a try too! I think your points are extremely valid and can see why they throw you off when it comes to playing with the weapon.

Every time I switch class from engineer I'm so confused when 5 doesn't bring out my HEAT lol

suppressive fire should give xp in my opinion. Not much xp but just a little bit :)

Also, don't forget this has a burst fire mode which if built for low recoil it's pretty nuts. I mean if you build this thing decently you can get a 3.06 reload time while still having pretty decent recoil control. I actually see this being used all the time on NA servers at least. Most people I have seen use it because it hits hard and all Lmgs have a higher max damage range compared to other guns outside of Dmrs and Snipers. I think a better build is using the B25-URK Grip because it makes you draw quicker and lowers reload speed. Mixed with the Faster A mag for quicker reloads. This makes your reloads go to 3.06 seconds instead of well over 4 seconds. Then the Tactical barrel to help with vertical and horizontal recoil. Can also switch to burst mode which makes it pretty nuts.

Put it on the 2 round burst and its a monster, i use it like a rushing AR build and its become my second most kill weapon

If it had a 40 or 45 round mag it would feel better with the default reloading but I think the drum would need bumped to 60 rounds to make it more worth it.

This gun is a DPS beast. It's easy to control with the short angled grip + vam b762 . The razor and strikefire are the best sights for it.

I kind of feel like the L86 and MG36 need a bit shorter reloads and more mags. In my mind, I envision these rifles like how the Marines are using the M27 as their infantry automatic rifleman role. A bit heavier than a normal assault rifle, but meant to still be used for suppression

Having the types of magazines available to it, I don't think ammo is the issue. I think it needs the recoil just dialed back some. Having used it a lot. That was the biggest issue. Now I can understand that recoil if it STARTED with the drum mag, but it does not. And the other mags being unlocks if you want to bring that recoil down.

All the support guns need far lower base recoil for starters. Especially the U-100, that should be basically a laser beam.

I only play support but didnt start playing it until I unlocked the first LMG.

I only like using the m249 on the support cuz it's the only one that seems to be good on the class. I also only use the support in Namak due to the very "hallway" design, I don't have to look for too many angles. My current setup is tactical barrel, se grip, slip sight

nsaah bro I dig the jugg suit it has been using class since start

Yes the weapon absolutely needs massive buffs on the handling and recoil, hope Oki sees this 👀

People don't know how much the L86 rewards good aim at distance. Just using this gun for like 30 lvls really got me used to how far I can absolutely clean entire squads. You just have to be really patient with this gun and keep moving around to maintain your max health. The reload speed grip is also your best friend.

Put heavy or long barrel and it brings it to a 3 shot kill. Melts super fast close-medium range

I have more playtime with the support class than any other classes. Mag dumping my saw into a sniper's hidey hole is just so satisfying.

I struggled hard with the L86 until I switched to 2-shot burst and trying to start engagements at medium range. Then I unlocked the 249, and I never went back.

LMGs for me are all about fire support and superiority. I simply cant do that whith 30 round magazine. The support class is the class that should be able to hold a push alone because of the volume of fire they can distribute between reloads.

Maining support, and I have such a love-hate relationship with the L86. It has good fire-rate, and I see it working kinda similar to the M4A1. Except it has more recoil, and is slower in every aspect of gameplay. The reload is painfully long too. Just unlocked the MG36 today, and I am never going back.

A Long/Heavy barrel turns this gun from a 4 shot to a 3 shot to the body vs unarmored. 155ms bodyshot TTK really changes the gun. It's an absolute beast within 70 meters. Try it out, might be worth a re-review.

A drum mag should actually help with the recoil due to the added weight but whatever, so much for realism.

It's my most played gun by far because I tried so hard to make it work. It CAN work but as soon as I switch to an AR I suddenly perform way better as if taking off thick mittens and heavy weights because everything is suddenly more precise and faster.

Say, what about heavy barrel?

Playing support has just felt generally unrewarding to me, but that could just be my own experience, so I’m open to criticism. (Pardon the text wall, I wish YT would let me widen this for readability.) What I find is you’ll try to fit the role of close range, mid range, or long range suppression and as things currently stand, all other classes do any of those better. In exchange for having long reload times, slow weapon draw and stow, slow movement, and mediocre weapon TTK at best, you get…armor, which maybe saves you a few seconds to secure two kills before someone finishes you off. Your guns aren’t stable enough to function as suppressive weapons at long range, outpaced by ARs at mid range, and your best bet becomes close range but then comes competing with SMGs like the *hisses* Vector. I’d love to use the L86A1 at mid range but the recoil kick makes my entire screen shake erratically even when controlling recoil. Well, let’s use the MGs then…Or not, because they’re worthless in CQC and you’re forced to make yourself an easy target if you want to stabilize them. Don’t get me wrong, if you get set up in a safe location, you can shred lines of enemies on a flank, but after about a minute of that, you’re an easy target for explosives.

No mentioning of Heavy Barrel? Yeah, it's a pain to unlock, but with it it's one of the fastest TTK (if not the fastest) in the game. While I agree that it is in a weird spot (need to have lighter armor, which unlocks later, and a lot of kills for heavy barrel, but for some reason it's a starting weapon, and for starting weapon it sucks), but saying it's meh... Nah, it's a killing machine with a heavy barrel

Could see a trophy system make the class more appealing, would probably give it only 2 to 3 charges tho

I played support like 3 minutes while I only had the l86a1 and didn't use the class until I unlocked something else.

Funnily enough, the L86 is what made me first play the support. And then I fell in love with ammo, claymores, and instant cover. It's mediocre, but at the start, everything was.

I maxxed out this gun but as it is the drum mag adds too many cons to use all the time, I only chose it for the aesthetic and extra bullets but it needs a buff for that part

technically just like jonathan descriptions about this gun : " in IRL it's not very sucessfull support gun" yes it can be buff because it's missing a Bipod .

Shows what I know. The LMGs always felt like they had a longer TTK than any of the SMGs. The tradeoff being the magazine size, But the larger magazine size and bigger rounds coming with the massive tradeoff of weight, reload speed, and recoil. SMGs seems to be point and click lazers for most scenarios. Where at medium range, its just hard to land consecutive shots, especially in auto, with the LMGs. Making them overall less rewarding for people who arent just very well versed in their particular applications.

long barrel?

The more I play around with other classes and weapons outside of the LMG's. The more they really do feel like an after thought. They are outclassed in every way. Doesn't matter the range. Nearly every SMG and AR can truly out fight the LMG's. It's rough. These guides are definitely helpful. But as yuou mentioned before. You really have to slow down everything youre doing just to stand a fighting chance. Hope the LMG's get a litte more rework in the future. Right now, I'd advocate that the support shiould have access to other weapons outside of the LMG category.

Support is one of the best classes. Instant building, 100 round clips. At 75 kills the M249 has its best attachments available and is a fucking monster.

A tip for those willing to give it a try: use heavy armour, not EXO, slap a long barrel, vertical grip and Holo/Strikefire/Aim Comp on L86.

Me an my friend both play support and have only played it (just started) and we just naturally wrnt into strong point pests like hold a on the farm just sitting on the roof for when the come to a just mining the stairs the just come up the stairs and het ridded

so whats worked best for me is no mag use the urk grip for reload and a tac barrel its the best feeling one i have found imo

i actually like this thing a lot more than the M249 right now, it's clean at range with the 2-round burst too.

As much as I wasn't interested in the game at first, I gave it a solid try and can say I'm enjoying it thoroughly. I decided to play support as that's usually the role I am in any game that offers it and when I got to the M249, I never looked back. I've been going on 20+ kill streaks very easily compared to the L86A1 so it's hard to recommend the default weapon to anyone.

Never touched the L86A1 outside of the range. Glad I made the right call.

It's also missing it's integrated bipod...

Support is my most played for sure with about 18 hours. I love the m249 and spraying suppressing fire. My accuracy stat is not that good 😂. However most folks don't live long enough to need ammo.

Now review the lord of bullet velocity, the long range AR, the AUG

I played support for nearly the entire first 2 days of release of early access. Didn't like the L86, Love the Mg36. Super easy to control, consistent, and makes funny noise. Unlocked the Mk14EBR recently though, absolutely loving the thing. Definitely doesn't feel like the best of the DMRs/Snipers, but it's got great versatility since it's the only full auto dmr in the game I believe

Use 5 flashes. Resupply. Use 5 flashes. Repeat for 25 flashes

They should give the supp like a trophy system.

noice

One remark to your videos I was wondering why the gameplay in the Background is sped up. This draws a picture of the weapon and might look cool, but from my point of view just creates false expectations of the "real" weapon potential / gameplay.

Wish you could play support with a dmr

all support weapons should have a integrated bipod imho

I didnt like the l86. I started using the m249 once I unlocked it. The issue with that one is the bipod may or may not work, its kinda random, and the run speed is so slow. I get its a heavier weapon, but the fact I can change to a pistol and run faster is weird. I wish theyd just speed the run up a little bit. I am always behind my team by a while by the time I can get there.

Bipod need buff. Why make slow class if the weapons can't play slow

I feel like this weapon handles weirdly, I can aim and control recoil w short scopes but medium scope it feels very uncontrollable

L86 IS MEH??? NAWWWW MANNNN, 3rd highest TTK in the GAME

how are you only getting 90 fps? are you using a gpu? or integrated graphics

4:25 while i does not break records, it still outperforms all ars except Ak15 (barely) and fal in ttk. If you slap a long barrel on it, its just 5ms slower than the as val or scorpion against unarmored. You downplay the potential and the reasoning behind bad recoil and offstats in my opinion. Could it use a bit of love? Maybe. But give it a bit too much and you got another AS VAL scenario here. It might not be the best gun or easiest gun atm, but for once its a gun with a unique role thats well balanced. Bad handling and high TTK.

It isnt a terrible gun with decent attachments. But overall i like it but ive been maining support anyway. But support doesnt make alot of xp

Main support here, the guns are subar. Both assault and even smg can easily out gun me even when on bipod. And I don't know about the armror, outruned and smgs still melt me before I can think. Feelt like I was cheating when I tried medic with mp5..

I can say that devs has very, very, very, very strange ways to balance attachments. Like most of them just unusable. Extended magazines adds a lot of recoil and for what reason? Longer reload - yes, larger magazines harder to operate. Slower movement - yes, exta weight. But recoil (and so much), just why? Same for suppressors, you just dont need if (and i see no reason to balance It with recoil) Also there's no attachment to compensate horizontal recoil effectivrly like vertical grip

do a groza review pls

Its design is... conflicted. Its designed like a CQC beast but lacks the fast ADS to be one. It has a 2 shot burst but the second shot's recoil is too high to be useable at long range Atm, its most viable use with its current stats appears to be a high-DPS spray and pray with a hipfire+laser sight, but even then youre restricted by mag size. Its just spread to thin in all directions without a definite playstyle.

unlocked the new G36 variant and lets just say...... way way way better

faster to medic up to rank 20 and then start support with the M249 SAW and be salty that your bipod doesn't do what bipods do in all other games. maybe they change the higher cap mags for the support LMGs so that you just need 25 or 50 or something, and not 200+

Whrn I selected support class I expected to shoot 100 round lmgs and instead got a shitty ar for starters No reason to play it ubtill you unlock m249

I only play support. You can't stop me. I have to admit though it feels like support could use a buff as a whole. People dont need refills on supplies that often making it feel like you arent contributing that often.

Can you create a playlist of specifically the weapon reviews

Support is good in its own right, you can instantly build anything and have ammo. Just wait to play it until you get a better gun

Support Is my main Class. This gun is a menance with Heavy Barrel. At first it meh, get Heavy Barrel, You are Unstoppable. TTk is insane. Need to Prestige to first to even use the later Camos of it that I unlocked 😅 Edit : I meant Long Barrel Thank You!

The support class needs more weapons, exp for building, buffs to all of their guns, and the resupply needs to be and area of effect... the ui menu shit is terrible.