You just clean it when it needs cleaning like if you’ve got debris/water/fouling in it.. simple. Strip it down, clean it up, dry it off with some flanelette and give the springs a light oil to keep the rust at bay.
I joined the cadets a few months ago and in a few weeks for annual I’m going on a field craft exercise at war cop I was supposed to do this at otter burn however we needed to do the WHT for the L98A2 so I’m looking forward to that
timestamps cuz I need them 0:04 standard NSP/ taking control of weapon 0:19 NSP for handing it over to someone else (basically the same stuff as before 0:41 stripping weapon for cleaning 2:17 putting back rifle together again and functions test 5:14 stoppage drills
I appreciate this is a test for cadets. Functions test doesn't have to be full as it is repetition only with the cadet rifle (L98 A2) however once obstruction is CLEAR. user must check chamber . CHAMBER CLEAR. this is to ensure there is not a round seated in the chamber before re inserting magazine and releasing the bolt. If there was a round in there you would be starting back with another obstruction. Should all be in pamphlet. Let's ignore the rest for now haha
Just passed a weapons handling test today after not touching a rifle in over a year. Quite proud tbh. I was trying to show my dad that you cock the rifle with your left hand bc your right shouldn’t leave the pistol grip bc he said it didn’t seem right lol
I see this in a lot of videos people akwardly reaching over instead of tilting the rifle which makes it easier and safer lol. Good job if I tired to do this now I'd forget half of it lol
As gay as this video is, this comment is even gayer, who the fuck cares? .... fun fact on 99% of all stoppages when the bolt fails to go into battery (on any weapon system) smashing it with a forward assist will only aide in making it all worse #pointlessdrill #butwe’vealwaysdonethat #drillsjustforthesakeofit #britisharmyisactuallyalotshitterthanyourealise
@@Bite_Me_MF u do the forward assist every time the bolt goes forward (especially when u load a magazine) to make sure the round is in battery and to break down carbon that is present after firing or before firing that wasnt cleaned in the cleaning process, this whole drill actually prevents future malfunctions believe it or not. But ofcourse it is possible for it to cause malfunctions to go worse, with malfunctions u just need common sense.
Omg… I don’t know why but I LOVED the weapon handling tests so much.. we still do them but I’m now a 3* cadet and am now teaching basic cadets… I can’t WAIT to work w the weapons w them
THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE BY THE WAY! He forgot the 7 point check 😬 (bolt, body, chamber, bolt, body, chamber, SWIPE THE MAGAZINE HOUSING) everyone forgets to swipe
@@joshrymer6229 you actually keep the weapon upright til you have the working parts fully to the rear and engaged the hold-open device. THEN you tilt the weapon towards you so the only reason you tilt it away is to insert/remove a magazine or if you’re doing stoppage drills and you need to make sure the body and chamber are clear
@@theearthguy1814 you need special training to be able to hold a replica weapon and teach them their NSPs and Rifle Drills, yes, but I loved teaching the principles, shooting positions, moving with a rifle, weapon safety and teaching on a wooden cutout. I also taught the different parts of the rifle and assisted with reminding people of what to do while they were cleaning their rifles.
We was re-issued with this in Late 86 and we all hated it, Wanted our SLR's back. When first issued the SA80 was a total pig, breach explosions, constant stoppages due to the gas work issues....mainly due to the carbon build up, things used to break off, we was issued M16 mags to start, dent....round jams, spring frics in the Mag.......and the damn mags had a habit of just dropping off the damn weapon. Thing I hated the most whilst stripping, yah that bloody horrible strap removal......lol. Good points Great accuracy, short & compact, and the 5.56mm being so much lighter than the 7.62 you could each carry so much more ammo into battle, the SUSAT being standard was also a great turn. Must say it became a much better weapon once HK did the overhauls. But still, it certainly didn't have the stopping power of SLR......you knew you hit the target when slotting with the SLR, SA80 required multiple hits to down ya target in most cases with body shots.
Strange reply here from me mate. I was 2 Para 74-97. When we changed from the SLR Blunderbuss to the SA 80, I recognised two issues. One, that the stopping power (in my humble opinion) of the 7.62 far out-smacked that of the 5.56, second, that the SA80 outshone the SLR (even with a Suit/SUSAT sight.) The SA 80 certainly brought you up a level accuracy wise. HOWEVER, having spoken to an ex REME armourer mate of mine (who did FORTY years in Britmil cos he was so good at his job,) he said that the reason that us Brits lost faith in the 5.56 was because on trials (which he was part of) they used BRIT manufactured/spec 5.56 ammo and it BEAT the SLR in penetration!!!! I was gobsmacked at this. When Britmil adaopted the SA80, we reverted to yank manufactured 5.56 (to save money, what fucking changes) and the adoption of that ammo, did not compete with the more expensive Brit manufactured ammo. He did explain further (beyond my understanding)
Some things to make sure to remember as they are easy to forget: Tap forwards. Always check safety. Right hand at rear to catch the spring should it fly out. Pre-strip NSP: Don't fire it off. Pick up the imaginary round that leaves the chamber after opening (when readied) Don't forget to take your time and talk/think yourself through it.
during gold fieldcraft we were forced to run 20m sprints back and forward while a warrant officer would scream at us to react to contact and gave us individual weapon malfunctions during the contact until we all knew them like clockwork, great fun.
I'm 24 now, left the Army Cadets when I was 16. Haven't done weapons handling with the L98A2 or any other variation of firearm for over 8 years, and yet as I watched this I was amazed to find that I remember absolutely everything, even down to the easily forgettable forward assist. Goes to show it really is all about muscle memory. Listen carefully and put the time into practicing, and you won't even have to think about it when your test comes around. Proud former 2 Mercian Cadet. SFSH 😝🇬🇧
Yes, he did not forward assist every time and he did miss the dust cover on occasions but if the rifle had been designed properly in the first place they would not be an issue. Give the man a proper RIFLE , no excuses..... "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are prepared to walk the night and do violence in our name." George Orwell.
@@stephennelmes2707 traditionally, guns have smooth bores, rifles have rifling in the barrel (So technically the main weapon of the challenger 2 tank is a rifle). but one definition of gun is "A tube for launching a projectile" so by that definition you are not actually wrong :-). .. by that definition, all rifles are guns, but not all guns are rifles .... ..
@@LtBdoesStuff So it IS a gun. But, a more accurate description would be a hand held, optically sighted, magazine fed, one man portable, air cooled kinetic energy weapon using the feed cock load lock fire unlock extract eject mechanism. My MK 44 MINIGUN operates on a similar system but is electrically driven using a 24 volt DC battery.
okay, i know this really isn’t my place to be in and i’m probably going to get stormed at in the comments, but i’m 14 and i’m a portsmouth sea cadet, these tests are the absolute death of me but this video actually helps me recall the drills, especially the F/A and the bloody dust covers . it also reminds me of some things the cadet did wrong. but still, thanks for helping me out :)
Ich war bei den BfG in Hameln[28EngrRgt] als Bewaffnetes Ziviles Wachpersonal 17 Jahre lang bis 2014 , habe aber die gute zuverlässige alte Pistole Browning gehabt und die Prociders sind genauso wie hier 😛Kann mich noch sehr gut dran erinnern
Interesting video. I'm curious. What's the reason behind the karate chop to the cocking handle when the I guess bold is already forward asides from ensuring the handle is fully forward. I can't help but think the bolt (hope I got that right) should move fully forward without obstruction.
sometimes and only sometimes all weapons have bolts that may not fully seat forward due to carbon build up or dirt. So a forward assist (karate chop) is to ensure the sear is engaged ready for trigger to be pulled. If not then you can pull the trigger all day and it won't do a thing until the bolt is fully seated in the chamber. This weapon usually doesn't have a problem but the A1 version of the SA80 did, so the drills followed for any case scenario. Take note: not the cadet GP rifle A1 variant as that was bolt action only. (l98A1).
Not forward assisting is not an instant fail it's a minor mistake which you are allowed it only becomes an instant fail if it's anything to do with safety ie not checking the safety catch
Cocking arm on right side for the soldier, it looked awkward having to reach over the weapon and disturb your line of sight? I only game shoot with old style side by side 12 bore and .22 rimfire rifle usually with shorts for rabbits. Really interesting see what happens with the big stuff. That said only a small calibre the SA80? How does that feel facing of the bad guys usual AK47 or such like? Stay and shoot safe all best Nobby PS probably on the preferable side if hot shell casings are ejected? Need to read on this gun...sorry rifle
Lewis Byrne it’s not a forward assist, it’s named changed when the L85 went from A1 to A2, and when the L98 did likewise. It’s now known as the tap forward and is to ensure the locking splines on the bolt are fully engaged and therefore the bolt is fully forward so the firing pin can actually hit the percussion cap/primer
I have heard and read atrocious stories about the SA80/ L85A1. I own a semi-auto version of the Armalite 180 which has the same similar multi lug rotating bolt, gas piston from the Russian Tokarev rifle, square bolt carrier, and M16 like fire control system taken from the M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, copied on to the AK series. Designed by Eugene Stoner who invented the AR-15 and later improved M16, A1, A2, A3, A4, M4, and M4A1. I think it was a good design that the British Military had decided to use. First is the good. First is the stamped receiver. Even though the Germans were first to produce submachineguns as cheaply for mass production as in the MP 38/40, later with the MP 43, STG 44 and 45. Britain produced more STEN guns for the war effort and provided more firepower. The STEN is a very good design but it came down to the soldier firing and selecting magazines that worked and functioned during training before combat. The STEN was good because I also own one. Bottom line is why didn't Enfield back in the day make any semi-auto versions make many for the American market for collectors and shooters like me? I would have loved to own one of these. I have an RSAF 1967 L1A1 which I have built and enjoy shooting. I can understand why the L1A1 is too long, heavy, less ammunition capacity as magazine wise for the average British or FAL, G-3 armed infantryman in combat. The US Army realized this in Vietnam. An American Infantryman in the early days as a Marine or Army would have 5-7 magazines loaded with 7.62 NATO in 20 round magazines and an extra 200 round bandoliers. Bigger caliber means more weight in a combat load with pack. Meaning in a fire fight or heavy combat which emphasizes more on volume of fire on the enemy so that a unit can maneuver and flank to close in. 7.62mm NATO ammo doesn't cut it for combat unless it's a GPMG to cover you as you move. The later M16A1 makes sense with all the improvements to ammunition and components like the chromed chamber and barrel, chromed bolt carrier interior, and a 30 round mag. With these improvements the M16A1 was still in service beyond 1984 when the Army and Marines got the A2 and finally out by 1997. I have for my shooting pleasure an original Colt AR-15 from 1978, and builds of an M16A1 rifle, carbine, and M4s. Sorry I have been drinking too much but have enjoyed the topic.
@@spinny3939 my partner used to be in marine cadets when younger and said they'd be real unwilling to let cadets use susats and if they had one on site they'd have a bucket of sand near by and you was instructed to stop make safe weapons and leave asap and the instructor would deal with the broken susat lol apparently they're quite radioactive or some shit, weather that's an instructor fucking with cadets I don't know lol.
Surely with the obstruction stoppage drill the Staff Sgt should’ve checked that the chamber was clear before reinserting the magazine. I’ve been told you can fail your test for not doing that
I like how all of the 'experts' with anime pictures are talking about what he's done wrong. Like you would do any better. They probably never even done anything like this.
Few things i noticed that wasnt done correctly when cocking the handle they didnt forward assist, they also didnt take apart fully the bolt assembly or test the automatic function during the functions test. just some small details I noticed not sure if its done differently in the army so please correct me if wrong :)
this is the L98A2. This varient designed only for cadets has the change lever removed. Therefore does not have an automatic fire function, nor to test.
I was taught, if you happen to miss a round in the chamber somehow, and then take an aimed shot, and kill someone, it wouldnt be classed as murder, so look just over the sights when doing it (Its what i did, thought i dont know how youre supposed to miss a round in the chamber when doing the 7 point check)
@@GreysUniverse i believe it can fire auto, however they just take of the selector switch so its impossible to set it to auto! I remember being super happy when we were the first crow bags to play with this on the range to see how a competent cadet could get on with it! It was a breath of fresh air compared to the single shot per cock bullshit we had been used to! even more fun when they said we were allowed to finally stand up and fire too! Believe it or not there was a time as a cadet where you weren't allowed to fire anything unless you were in the prone position! -,-
At 6:16 when the weapon fails to fire first time & the instructor/examiner says *"cocking handle appears fully forward."* The soldier forward assists & then (apparently) continues to fire. I've always found this to be a flawed practice, as when the weapon fails to fire you'd have fired off the action. Which means the only action to take in the instance of such a stoppage would be to cock the rifle again. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong, it's just a thought I'd had recently.
From my experiments with the weapon, if the bolt is not seated properly pulling the trigger does not fire off the action. Thus a forward assist would put the bolt in place allowing the action to be fired.
But then again, what I did do in basic training during pairs fire & maneuver, is get a stoppage & immediately try to re-cock the weapon, which because the bolt wasn't in contact with the round has caused the round not to be ejected & the next round has been pushed into the back of the round already in the chamber causing a mega stoppage & a great deal of shouting & flapping!
Due to the stoppage not being actually real, it's hard to explain, this stoppage is the bolt carrier not travelling far enough forward, meaning the hammer is not able to be realised due to it being cocked onto the safety sear, not the main sear (which the trigger can control), tapping forward assist would then allow the bolt carrier to move that little further forward, tripping the safety sear allowing the hammer to be cocked on the main sear, so when the trigger is pulled the hammer is realised and fires the round. In this test due to not being able to replicate the bolt assembly not moving forward enough when the trigger is pulled the hammer will come up, and the drill looks pointless, but for a live stoppage, this is absolutely what you should do.
It's only the last 1/8th (one eighth) of inch of forward movement by the bolt carrier assembly that the bolt rotates 22.5 degrees to the right. The hammer is prevented from being released until the BCA is fully forward. This is known as mechanical safety.
A lot of comments on here about the drills, sequence of stripping etc. Some of the drills on the test were wrong, some of the comments also wrong. I did my Skill At Arms Instructor course at the School Of Infantry at Brecon. Where did all you experts do your course?
A couple of non-native-English-speaking soldiers asked to watch this to prepare them for some typical instructions they might encounter while serving as NATO troops in the UK. The voices on the video can be difficult to hear and the voice recognition is often completely wrong, so I recorded as best I can a transcript of what the instructor and soldier being tested say. I'm not military myself, so I may have misheard some of the details. I put it here in case anyone else would find it helpful. If anyone has any suggestions for corrections, please add feedback! Okay, this weapon’s not been under your direct supervision but what-I-want-you-to-do is TAKE CONTROL OF THE WEAPON. What I want you to do is HAND (it) BACK OVER TO ME. The clip. Keep hold of the weapon yourself. Can we do our ???? here? Okay. Take a seat. What I want you to do is STRIP THE WEAPON FOR A NORMAL DAY’S CLEANING. (1:09) Okay, while you’re stripping your weapon can you tell me what sized flannel you’ve used to clean the barrel. 45 by 45 millimetres. What size (something) flannel would you use to clean the barrel? 45 by 45 millimetres Okay, can you show me how you would examine the barrel cleanliness. That's Great! When would you strip a magazine When it’s really needing a clean because of dirty conditions. Yeah that’s fine. Can you explain to me or demonstrate how you’d remove filing or debris from the chamber. Just talk me through it. With the correct tool, I would … erm put a swab in there, or a brush Yes, that’s fine, thank you. 2:15 Okay, what I want you to do is REASSEMBLE THE WEAPON and CARRY OUT THE WEAPONS FUNCTION TEST. 3.56 Okay, for the next test, whachawanya to do is remove the penny, depress it and fill the magazine with 10 new rounds. Are you gonna say start or just, (youknow)…? Okay, go! 4:29 Excellent, well done. And on the word of command, “go” I want you to remove the 10 rounds. “Go!” Can you put the penny press back into the magazine, please? Okay, can you put the magazine in your ammunition pouch. Sling the weapon and stand up. Okay, listen in: with the magazine with the penny depressor fitted, “Load!” “Down!” “Ready!” 5:39 “With the magazine with the penny depressor fitted, “Make set!” (?) 6:01 “Ready!” 6:07 “(Tightens to front). Go on.” Rifle firing right. Rifle firing right. Rifle stops. 6:22 Upon looking at the cocking handle, the cocking handle is fully forwards. Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. 6:32 Stop! 6:37 Go on! Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. Rifle stops. Upon looking at the cocking handle, the cocking handle is fully forwards. Rifle still fails to fire. 7:00 Now, upon examination, the body of the chamber, your see rounds in the magazine and no rounds in the chamber. Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. Stop! Go on! Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. Rifle stops. 7:30 Upon looking at the cocking handle, you see the cocking handle is neither fully forwards, nor fully rearwards. Obstruction. Obstruction clear. Rifle fires right. Stop! Go on! Rifle fires right. 8:01 Rifle fires right Rifle stops. 8:06 Upon looking at the cocking handle…So for this weapon, can you just hold the (?) to the rear 8:16 Upon looking at the cocking handle, you see is full rearwards. Upon looking inside the rifle, you see that there are no rounds in the magazine and no rounds in the chamber. Go on. Rifle fires right. Rifle fires right. Stop. Unload! 8:53 Stand up! End of session What? End of session.
Been a long time but dont you check your on single shot as part of making ready? Safety catch, change lever check range on sights then cock the weapon?
The L98A2 does not have a change lever as it is a system designed for use in the cadet forces and is semi only (no automatic capability). You may be thinking of the L85A* SA80 and L86A* LSW systems that can fire semi and auto.
@@anglo6248 Stpoppage drills are a fundamental part of weapon training in the British Army and are part of the MATT 1 weapon handling test. They are some of the most basic drills and all trained soldiers have to demonstrate proficiency at them yearly at a minimum.
The foward assist is old doctrine, I don't know why it would still be being taught? If you have a failure to feed, or the bolt will not go into battery behind a chambered round, then the round should be discarded. Any round that does not want to go into the chamber on it's own, should not be forced in. The bullet could have been pushed back into the neck of the case slightly during the malfunction, or the brass could have been damaged causing headspace issues.
I'm thinking of joining air cadets, do you guys still do skill at arms? I left army cadets because it wasn't for me but i loved the skill at arms training. So if they do then that would be a bonus
@@steelernation1989 ok thank you :) I might join after lockdown is over but im still not sure as its on Wednesday and Friday and im usually busy on Friday and i do stuff with my family on Wednesday and in army cadets was Tuesday and Thursday, but ill give it a try
passed my weapon's handling test once and i'll have to do it again so i'm here just revising. update: i did the test the second time, kinda made 2 mistakes. i don't know if thats a fail or not but um i passed in the end so its alright
In the cadet forces, the weapon is stripped only to a certain extent to prevent the risk of losing small components. Stripping the bolt carrier assembly is restricted to adult instructors to ensure proper handling. The same principle applies here as if you were to give a cadet two ball bearings in a sealed room - one would get lost, and the other will get broken.
This isn’t a scenario according to all possible FTC’s/stove-piping etc. It’s actually a demonstration of a fully operational BAE systems model of the SA-80 before H&K played with it. 🤓❤️👍
This is the function test where the safety catch is tested it prevents the trigger firing when on. The safety sear is then tested to make sure it engages with a click to ensure the weapon does not fire on automatic.
@@JnC_DnB Check the safety catch is at safe (S) Cock the weapon allowing the working parts to go forward and forward assist With the safety catch at safe operate the trigger, It should not fire Put the safety to fire (F) and operate the trigger, the weapon should fire. DO NOT RELEASE THE TRIGGER. Whilst holding the trigger back, cock the rifle, forward assist and then release the trigger. You should then hear a loud click this is the safety sear. If no loud click inform inform your instructor immediately operate the trigger and the weapon should fire Set the safety catch to safe (S) and close the dust cover
Cadet Rifles are variants of the L85A2 called the L98A2. In short, it basically is the same rifle, but has no automatic firing and cannot have added attachments. That's why there's no automatic test.
