I would consider the Republicans to be much more socially conservative than all our parties (with the possible exception of the New Conservatives) and the democrats are kind of centre to centre right.
@@bruisedbug while there are some quite left wing people on the Democratic party e.g. Bernie Sanders and the squad, the US parties are ideologically diverse and contain quite a wide section of the political spectrum. So if i had to average the democratic party as a whole I would still say centre to centre right. This is from a political compass kind of way of looking at things.
Nice video, very informative an clearly explained for everyone to understand the spectrum of social and economic views. Overheard someone comparing the likes of American Republican party to the NZ Labour party and might recommend they watch this video they might be able to spot a few more differences that similarities such as their colour. Haha :')
@@burnitdown5828 what do national have in common with the U.S. republican party? They're the opposite, from everything on immigration, to abortion, to conversion therapy laws to even marching in pride parades which Republicans wouldn't be caught dead it. Republicans are a million miles to the right of the national party.
Jacinda ardern should of not off been voted back in as she's not fixing the housing crisis her immigration policy have made it worse there is over 10000 living in motels but she doubled the refuges quota then year 2020 they added 92000 more immgrants putting more strain on this country's infrastructure immigration needs to go back to 10000 a year
ACT is economically conservative or "Classically Libertarian" compared to opposition parties but not socially conservative. Hence their advocacy for women's rights/pro choice abortion stance, civil unions/LGBT rights and pro surrogacy for same-sex couples, and the voluntary euthanasia bill that just went into action around this month. Please don't assume yank politics are identical to NZ. The conflation of ACT with social conservatism may have be a misnomer in this video due to ACTs pro free speech policy which right wing populists in U.S have capitalized on to shill their shitty populist policy. Historically ACT has been against same-sex marriage as an example of social conservatism but the current party has done a 180 degree turn on most social conservative viewpoints.
@@brashlybold8805i can't historically find examples of them taking socially conservative positions either. Individuals in the party like John banks, *cringe* did when they are national Mps, however ACT since its founding by former labour MPs Roger Douglas and Richard Prebble have been quite consistant on their socially liberal views.
As an American college student I'm curious... do other countries know a lot about our politics? I've been watching videos on this channel for a research paper and have noticed that there are many comparisons made to US government structure/parties. I didn't think that people outside the US would know so much (although, it is like a reality tv show half the time lol).
@@j0rdanp Here in Canada we actually study the American political system in high school. Mostly for comparison to our system. American politics can also affect Canada quite a bit too.
sorry for resurrecting a dead comment but in Aus the answer is yes for the most part, mainly by necessity rather than choice, you are the largest economy, have a lot of nukes, and still have a not insignificant influence here (although there is a good amount of effort to change that).
@@Stapler42 Don't want to start an angry political argument. I am genuinely interested in what you mean by there being a good amount of effort to change it? Surely things like the AUKUS treaty are strengthening Australia's ties to America?
@@deanmccourt4800 AUKUS is extremely controversial in Aus, the former government majorly damaged our relationship with France by cancelling our deal for subs with them over the AUKUS deal, and the nuclear subs we are buying from AUKUS are extremely expensive with very little of that money being reinvested into Aus, not to mention the fact we will have to buy nuclear fuel from the US or UK as we dont have ability to create our own. For a lot of Aussies it feels like we are handing over our national defence over the the US (and the UK to a lesser extent) rather than properly developing it ourselves or forming an equal partnership with them. To a lesser extent theres also a lot of unease around the volatility of the US at the moment with the massive rise in right wing extremism and violence, the US is becoming a less secure or reliable diplomatic partner. I doubt that much will change diplomatically overall unless something drastic happens, but there is definitely less desire for US partnerships at the moment.
American here: The placement of your political parties and the contrast with U.S. parties was interesting. I call myself conservative, though find myself having struggles voting with the Republican party. I hope we can learn something from our cousin nations and grow past a two-party paradigm. I still think it was an inspiration at the time if it's creation, just, well, we're growing past the the era of binary thinking aren't we?
These placings aren't correct. Their political compass is not objective, it's Americanized. Labour are neoliberal, so they're economically center right. NZFirst are to the left of Labour economically. Also Labour are liberal socially, but they're still to the authoritarian side of the center. Greens aren't that libertarian either. I say that as a Green voter, who are really where they say Labour are, while I'm where they say the Greens are. Labour are closer to where they've put National, and National are closer to ACT.
The problem with the US system is it's really just one big party trying to win all the votes. They are both far right compared to us, and they have to be to appeal to their bases for the insane level of funding they require. Both sides would rather steal a rich donor from the other side and count it as two votes. Ie, one less for against, and one more vote for. Now both of the US parties run on very similar policies, but include a few candiadates that appeal to the fringes in an effort to pick up the few uncontested votes. Ie the Progessives like Sanders and the squad appeal to the young voters, while the Tea Party types apeal to the far right neocon types. Both groups are unlikely to swap sides ever, but there is still the challenge to get them to come and out vote in the insane voting conditions. Here we have a whole week to vote, plus mail in, and voting centers all over the country. There hasn't been a line to vote here in the last 4 or more elections. Actually I don't think I've ever had more than 5 people to line up behind ever. That all falls under the heading of big tent politics as described in the video. In the 2 party system you get an all or nothing approach. For exmaple, many black people voted for Trump despite the terrible things he said about them. Why? Because he was promising jobs. There wasn't an alternative, so they have to accept the many bad policies they disagreed with to get the one policy they really wanted. That's the calculation we don't have to make so much here. Having the smaller parties allows us to say exactly what we want, without the extra baggage. There have even been a few one policy parties that formed as a psuedo referendum or a show of support for a specific cause, like the NZ Climate Party or the Ban 1080 Party. They have a good chance of getting in if they cross the threshold which is 5% of the party vote (unlikely) or win a single electorate seat (quite possible), and the usual policy is for the party which wins to pick up any of these small parties even if they have the numbers to further solidify their position and for banking on good will in the future.
@@AholeAtheist Oh, I know. Spectrum changes from one big problem to another. In 2020-21 Labour became FAR-FAR-FAR-left, on the clear way to become CCP and is very close to XIX 30s Germany (how can a premier of a country say into people's faces they create a state with 2 classes of citizens?! It's appalling!) whereas National socially is on a similar path. There are not many true centre nor right parties in NZ.
@@krzysztofmaliszewski2589 LOL. The spectrum doesn't change. People just misrepresent it. Labour became nothing of the sort, they are still slightly right of center. Most of our parties are right wing. Only the Greens and Maori parties can be said to be on the economic left. That is of those that are in parliament. So 3 out of 5 in parliament are economically right wing. Please go back to school.
Labour are not left. I'd say they're centrist when averaged out, some policies slightly left, a fair few centrist, though their overall encompassing ideology falls solidly in the realm of neoliberal corporatism, i.e. centre/slightly right of centre. Even Greens would fall somewhere within Social Democracy, not even even Democratic Socialist. Yes Greens are left of centre, but in the grand scheme of things they're really just dipping their toes into leftist politics. I mean, unlike the US, it's at least nice to have some left of centre representation, though that's a low bar to pass
I don't listen to elders either cause they'd settle for just a new car. Last time I saw da mauwee-king & his missus from Tainui was in the casino @ the high rollers table..the joke in boring H-town was the mauwee-Queen being a regular at the casino. Ps. their cars are always upgraded. 'Yeah Fkn Right'. And m..fkers fundraise for these clowns haha!
Maori vote Maori Party, all Maori we have the talent but never National. Luxon forgot people remember Pike Mine, Motel Generation, Dragon Collins, Sambo Bridges & the Blonde Bridgade. National is like watching Boris Johnson..boring & full of shyt. I monitor overseas media not NZ's.
Incorrect. Labour have been a neoliberal party since the 80s. And neoliberalism is economically right wing, BTW. And they haven't moved back to the left much at all. They're still slightly to the center right economically, despite the misinfo in this video.
@@AholeAtheist I'm not only talking economically, and I didn't say Labour from the 80s; I said 'Ardern'. Arden is intent on social equality in its multifarious guises, whether economically by taking from the rich and giving to the poor and supporting minority groups --and there are plenty of examples of these things. The more she tries to make things fairer, the lefter she goes. Remember, extreme left is communism. Take an honest look, and you'll draw parallels.
@@shimmeringreflection Well social policy(that is non economic) is not left or right. You have no idea what you're talking about. As I said above, neoliberalism is right wing governance. It seeks for private solutions to problems. Labour have been involved in that since the 80s, and they've barely moved back to the economic center. On social issues they aren't that libertarian or progressive either. They didn't support the legalization of cannabis, which also has racial implications for Maori and PI given the way our police go about their job. They're basically a conservative bourgeois champagne "socialist" party that is a long way from communism. So to compare them to communists is insane.
They even use the political compass in this video which shows how left and right is economic issues. And you're still coming at me with that i DiDn'T jUsT mEaN eCoNoMiCaLlY. Go back to school.
@@AholeAtheist I don't think you realise that you've twisted things somewhat. My original comment says labour is pretty left. You said you disagree, and then you talked about economically. Logically, at least based on your first comment, and hence my rebuttal, you only think labour are left in an economic sense and therefore don't disagree that they're otherwise left.
@@krzysztofmaliszewski2589 I wouldn't compare to the past, but just so bad decisions from labour, labour is for the working class, but hot now, shame on the labour party
NZ MAORI not doing their job, not finding their MANA, not finding their ❤️ not sharing their MANA and their pride with the rest of NZ. MAORI are forgiving, MAORI are loving. Long live AOTEAROA
