Lack of Preservation Is Killing Video Games! 

I'll be honest after the popcorn part I stopped reading cause I was fascinated. My sister just made it and it's amazing! Thanks so much for this!

So are you saying you just can't afford to pay for the classics you want to play even though there's several ways to do that?

Nah, I ain't reading all that.

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@@ItsMeBarnaby"Sneaking into a movie theater isn't stealing because I didn't take the Film Strip."

FACTS

@@ItsMeBarnabyexactly!

@@Guy-cb1ohyes. Youll get trouble but its not stealing

It's only illegal if you get caught

I'm pretty sure (In the US at least) its legal. Company has to actually sell it for it to be "piracy" good example is the PC version of Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow. Ubisoft literally will not sell that game. As such it is abandonware and thus fair game

The answer is copyright reform. Stop writing copyright law to suit Disney. Put something in there about abandoned works. Wonder if that would prompt them to put their back catalogue on the market (for sale via emulation)

@@Autotrope IP law shouldn't exist at all, it's quite literally a form of thoughtcrime

@@FantomMisfit It's not, but a law is only as strong as the enforcement, and nobody will enforce against someone downloading a copy of a game that's not being sold anymore.

just like somehow nintendo keeping the shop open for the wii/wii U/3ds makes them lose money, but rom websites can afford to provide the same service by running 3 ads on their site

One word: greed!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

​@@AnnRita45 More spesifically, Iressisponsible out of touch corporate management. Same situation as how WarnerBros lost a massive amount of money by refusing to pay any of the creators of the shows on HBO and dumping a boatload of notable series in the trash due to incompetence and arrogance, Companies could make way more money by having old media still be accesible for accisibel purchase. Arrogance, mismangment, and warped pride, causes these isssues for the industries and loss of experince for audiences and loss of potential profits for companies.

All I hear is excuses on why obtaining something for free is justified. Nothing justifies it. If a company doesn't choose to preserve a game however way you thinking of preservation, it is their creation, they can do or not do what they want with it. All these white knight pirates coming to the rescue as if they have rights to something.

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Big titles will have solutions. When I was younger I was even helping to develop a custom world of warcraft server that let people play older versions of WoW before WoW classic was a thing. 100% offline MMO

The games as service model will never remain successful in the longterm for single player titles. If I have to download the game on my computer, then that copy of the game is mine to do with as I please.

It’s not even games as a service you pay for the service and then you barely get a game and return And if you don’t like it, every single game company tells you you shouldn’t have bought it if you don’t like the product Maybe instead of blaming the consumer make a better product for example, call of duty keeps blaming it’s fans for not liking the games that they create Why don’t you create a game? The fans actually like instead of putting functions in that only like 2% of the community want Like I swear to God video game company’s focus on the minority They know nothing about video games, video game, culture or how to build a proper game it’s all about turning out repeatable cash based experienced . Like one single player games, have micro transactions in premium currency that we’re things started going out of control Because why the fuck am I going to spend money on a game to earned premium tokens where I’m supposed to be able to unlock everything by working for it? And that’s a big problem I’ve seen in the video game culture is that people don’t wanna work for things anymore. They just wanna pay $20 and get the best cosmetics. Until the next cosmetic pack comes out, and the person who created those cosmetic packs are not paid nearly as much money than the company makes companies make millions of dollars off of the single micro transactions sometimes and those artworks for created by employees They’re not sharing the profits from that artwork with the employees there, just paying them to create the artwork The company will make hundreds of thousands of dollars in a few days after micro transaction is released. Meanwhile the person who created that super popular micro transaction that is being sold for $20 a pop they don’t get a percentage of that money And that’s one big problem that I’ve been seeing is that artists in video game? Creators are not being paid their fair share share of the profits The CEO will literally make millions of dollars a year off of just micro transactions are in their game Meanwhile, the people who created those artworks, for those micro transactions are struggling to pay rent They’re working insane overtime hours and being paid barely enough In most forms of art, you pay the artist or royalty for selling their art Every time you sell a piece of there, are they get a percentage of the money But video games fall into a different category where the company can pay you Minimum wage for 12 hours worth of work And make millions of dollars off of your work meanwhile, not paying you a fair share that millions Like I’m pretty sure artist don’t want millions and millions of dollars I just want to be treated like fucking artists like in every other industry where they get paid royalties for selling their art A lot small game companies do that where every time someone buys a micro transaction a percentage of that micro transaction purchase is given to the artist of that cosmetic

Any game dev would tell you the same. A fan that pirates your game might buy it legally later if they can, but someone who buys from those shady sites already feels like they "paid" for the game, when most of the times those keys are stolen from the devs themselves

How are keys even stolen anyhow? Theres gotta be proof right? Not ya know, the CEO lying and selling keys behind dev's backs or something.

@@mimszanadunstedt441 Credit card fraud is the big thing. Not only do you need to refund the entire purchase, there can be additional fees, hassle to process them, invalidating the stolen keys can cause someone, who thought they purchased the game legally, get mad at you and not the scammer. Also there's a cottage industry of spamming out "I'm a content creator and would love to have a game key so I can stream or make a video about it."

T was Running With scissors, the developer of the Postal series

@@mimszanadunstedt441 I would add to @Xazamas point that nowadays with the flood of games being released every day, if you are a small developer and want the game to be bought by someone else than your mother, you have to give visibility to it in the social networks. And the only way to do that is either by being a famous content creator yourself... or much more likely, by giving away keys to content creators that already have an audience. Preferably niche content creators that specialized in whatever genre is your game. Because ultra-famous content creator won't even see your message asking him to play it. Sadly Steam doesn't offer any way to create temporary keys to give away that expire a few days after they are used, that would solve the key reselling problem in an instant. However it is also true that a lot of content creators (even legitimate ones) may refuse to talk about your game if you give them a temporary key instead of a permanent one. Also, there are developers that fall into the trap of "buying" positive reviews on Steam. It works like this: you give 1000 keys to "someone" and that guy, with an army of bots, gives you 1000 positive reviews on Steam, so your game gets recommended more often and hopefully gets some visibility and sales. The reality is that most of times those keys just end up on key reselling websites.

3D printers have come a long way, give it a few more years

Piracy is closer to taking a picture of a car than stealing one outright. You’re not depriving the owner/distributer of the original car and no ownership changes hands, and if you delete it/tear it up when you’re done it’s like nothing happened.

This thought pops into my head for absolutely no reason once a month or so.

With the prices they are charging for cars now, many people would just out of necessity.

You say that as if we don't have to with (hondas I think) car dlc where you pay subscriptions for already installed features

IKR?

Try double or even triple the original price!

this is a thing for modern games too, look at some of the old call of duty games still 60$ 5+ years later

DOOMed? that's the game for 5 dollars on the MS store and xbox, yes?? exact opposite of your point. OG doom, btw

@@0Heeroyuy01 ehhh older games were actually pretty expensive, not even accounting for inflation

Its because collectors and *investors* are taking it off of everyone's hands, so the price is skyrocketting, because its a limited pool its monopolizable effectively.

@@PretendingToBeAHuman when gaming was ACTUALLY for everyone!!!!! I lost BOTH of my 3DS XL consoles, and I won’t be able to get another 3DS XL for some time. I also had the retro NES Controller one, and im so sure that one i will NEVER be able to get it again! But eh, I WILL get myself another 3DS XL at some point! #3DSAddict

It is possible when younger generations will take over the governments. Those old man will have to retire at some point. The only questions is how many titles will be already lost until that happens.

I would toss so much money at a DRM-free online store where you can just buy old console ROMs and ISOs.

Here Here!!!!!!!

quite literally. and from my experience it also helps continue video game culture as a whole. Like for me i was too poor to own physical copies of games or the old games i want to play are hard to get (earthbound, chrono trigger, etc.). So the only way to play these gems was emulators

Or indie/AA games are saving video games for that matter.

​@@TheSyconerdI used to hate having to pirate games, but now I have no problem

deadass seemed like they wanted to use clickbait but they seemed to miss the mark

Thank you, the title has been bugging me the whole way through.

Haha same for Pakistan. I'm pretty sure PS2 is still the most popular console there

How'd you guys get past the PS1's protection? o_o

​@@LuluTealaExtremely easily.

​@@LuluTealawhere there's a will there's a way. Especially when you consider that these companies almost never translate games behind the main EU languages and even then they usually just stick to English and Japanese only

​@@LuluTeala many stores sold PS1/2s already with modchips in them.

Thats the goal of subscription services in general, offer an initial value to generate a subscriber base then make cuts to your platform so you aren't losing money on the operation and whatever dumbass idiots left autopay on and forgot will give you money in perpetuity

I wish they would of added TMNT: Turtles in Time reshelled. I get many people didn't like it but it needs preservation as it was a digital only release on PS3 and X360

No excuse! If a company isn't providing something you want in a way you want, that doesn't justify obtaining it another way without paying them.

@@TheMeanArenaBoot licking billion dollar companies that don’t give a shit about you.

@@TheMeanArena I gather you work for one of these companies.

Doesn't matter if the company isn't currently selling the game. Does it belong to you or them? That analogy is way off the mark. You are downloading pure software that is owned by someone else off the internet and not paying for it. The game you buy at the store, the medium is yours and can resell if you like which happens to contain the software you played. One was actually purchased at one point. The other, never at any point. If there's 100 copies of a game sitting at GameStop, that's 100 copies that actually got sold at some point. If 100 people download it for free $0 was made.

@@TheMeanArena I think the point being made is that for something to be 'stealing', someone has to lose something. There is undeniably a sub-category of pirated games whose users would not have spent money on the title being played, second hand or new. That means their use isn't 'stealing' a sale. What proportion of pirated games this actually is is debateable (I imagine it's quite large though), and the ethics of pirating software is also a healthy conversation to have - but the implication that all piracy is *stealing* doesn't work. It's like saying all theft is murder: designed to sound dramatic despite being inaccurate (a lot like the choice of the word 'piracy', an incredibly heinous act, to refer to copying copyrighted material). (The statement also misses the very real phenomenon where piracy causes a sale, which does very much happen. 'Free to play' games like League of Legends and shareware releases like doom are great examples of how free products produce fans, buzz, and ultimately sales, but that's getting into business strategy, and I think Shinrayquaza9 was talking about word semantics.)

@@TheMeanArena See I understand that. But sometimes said company deserves to lose money.

A lot of old titles are simply no longer available physically. It depends how far back you go. Or for some, perhaps not possible to obtain due to inflated pricing, largely once helped by those services that used to box and grade games. For major developers and modern games, the positive side for them is that people will not be buying anything at a store for long. Physical storage is slow and can't keep up in size with games. Only part of a game is often on a disc, esp on pc. You may also be forced to tie a physical game to an online account that won't be around indefinitely, before you can play. So some modern physical media will become useless in time, unable to be resold, and preservation could be a reason for some that obtain the games via other methods. The arrival of digital stores of course handed all control back to the publisher with the inability to resell (unless using the grey market or outside of the US). This also enabled companies to update and modify what you have legally without noting you. Soundtracks or other elements removed from games. This may also be a reason for people looking for so called backups. The industry will soon attempt to push everyone on console especially to stream only, with fewer physical options available until they disappear, which may avoid all sharing (which was always frowned upon, legal or not) and piracy altogether. If this happens, every console will become a very basic piece of tech, or even reduced to an app on the next generation smart tv. Only general software and indie gaming on pc may be affected by piracy in future. The only argument against punishment for piracy is that not everyone would have bought given the rising cost of AAA games, the current state of a nation regarding income and the age group affected (plenty of students no doubt). Not all of them will bother to share, or obtain on a platform which shares the data by default. With other forms of pirate entertainment (eg bootleg music) it would always be the store or site that would be shut down and not the public that obtained those cds and dvds, so the focus with games should perhaps be on the initial host or not so legal sharer @@TheMeanArena

​@@TheMeanArena How about this situation though: Westwood studios was a famous RTS game developer during the 1990s. When EA scooped them up in '98, they ended up getting shut down in about 5 years. WW's titles DragonStrike, Dune II, Young Merlin, and more are unable to be purchased 1st-hand, and EA refuses to offer distribution for these games. Their bean counters consider anyone who pirates these games to be stealing money, but the thing is, even when these games are distributed again, none of the people who worked on these games will see a cent come to them. Sure, a bunch of sales could mean that the money could go to a new set of devs, but you know, there's also another problem, enshittification. For this, we turn to another studio EA bought out, Pop Cap. PVZ1 and Peggle remain to be legitimately purchaseable (for now), but post-EA absolutely ruined subsequent releases. So, it does not even give me trust in the publisher that my money would result in a good return for an IP. And now to blow up your final point, making $0 is far, FAR less harmful than losing money. Yes, someone made a COPY of your piece of media, but they didn't steal something that cannot be replaced for free. It can be infinitely replicated. I am fine if someone pirates a piece of media I put out too, cause it is beyond just "hehe, I am an asshole", they may be unable to afford the media, they may be unable to afford the medium to play it on, the game may not necessarily be distributed in their region, or something completely different. Would be nice if they considered seeing if they can pay me in the future for it, but it deals no direct harm to me to have something I made be CLONED without being paid. Hell, when I release my first game that is behind a paywall, I am gonna dump the game on major piracy hubs (and free on itch), cause I would rather prevent harm becoming my users from other malicious actors. Anuken did this model, so I know this will work.

Dude it's like every version of it too. The ds version is mad money too and it's like one of squares best games

@@Kevstreehouse Fr, it’s touted as one of the best RPG’s ever created and you can’t even buy it legitimately. At least something like Mario RPG was available on the SNES Classic and is now getting a remake. But having to wait nearly 30 years for that is unacceptable.

@@BlueGlare8 dude Europe is even worse. Like I don't think we got the snes or ps1 release so the ds was the first time we got it and it had such a limited run that it goes for mad money. We didn't even get it on the virtual store. Like before steam sailing the 7 seas was your only option.

Pretty sure it's on steam for not that much

Yes, it is. It's often discounted, and it's very similar to the DS port, it's surely better than the original on Snes (I've tried that version, I would not recommend it to anybody).

Would love to see this enacted but I'm too bitter to believe it'll be happening. Especially when ubisoft are telling us to get used to not own games.

​@@Kevstreehouse I understand people can be deflated and feel as though nothing can be done, I go through that as well. But it is easy for us to forget that industry reforms happen, bills get legislated and even the biggest corporations get reigned in from time to time...when enough a hub bub is created by consumers and workers. It just starts with people casually disucssing solutions. As individuals we don't need to go running a campaign, calling up represetatives, drafiting laws etc.. It can be a collective effort. The more people discuss solutions the more word spreads around and the more chance those who are in more powerful positions to do something about it can pick up on it and action it. We can just look at the 'Right to repair' act created by small businesses fighting the multi-trillion dollar Apple corporation behemoth...and they won with the 'Right to repair' act eventually becoming law. Apple is forced to obide. There are many other actions that has or is taking place - usb-c - sideloading - gatekeeping - digital marketplace monopolies being challenged. etc.. The EU put Apple in its place because of the collective complaints from EU consumers. You can be bitter but also be vindictive as well. "we have a right to own what we buy and DRM should be kicked to the curb" and that's it. more people will pick up on something like that and run with it.

did ubisoft not say they will always support physical games???@@Kevstreehouse

guess they forgot the "till it starts to lose us any amount of money"@@Sneaky_racoon_sly

Sorry bro, but game companies will NEVER go for that, and will lobby you to oblivion. It is all about the money, and it's simply better business for you to rent, than it is to own. So, you'll never own the games you play.

Sounds like you found it.

@@unimac6163 If I say my son was lost, and I find out he was last seen getting beat up at the back of a Denny's I wouldn't exactly say I "found him" if he still wasn't home safe and sound, literally still absent.

Check soulseek

Which show?

I kept a playlist on youtube that lost like 600 songs. Like 1/4 or 1/3 of all the tracks it had. Many were original works, not copyrighted stuff.

So would buying a copy and sitting it on your shelf.

@@TheMeanArena while I’m all for owning physical, you also have to consider that physical media degrades. Connections corrode, chips burn out, things stop working. If no effort is taken to preserve a piece of software in a digital format, and either all physical copies of it or the devices required to run it no longer function, it becomes lost media.

​@@blind3dbylight I understand that argument and many other things people like to say but the issue is bottom line that the software people buy is owned by someone else. They and they only have the right and choice on what to do with that software regardless of the hundreds of excuses people like to make about piracy. What media degrades over time specifically? How long does it take? I have music CD's and games from 20-30 years ago or more that there is nothing wrong with them. It can't be cartridge based games you're talking about as all my Atari games run perfectly fine. Perhaps another media you're talking about?

@@TheMeanArena You are dodging the point to argue about pure legality. All physical media won’t last forever regardless of its form. You know of Nosferatu, yes? Piracy literally rescued what would become a highly influential film in the horror genre from becoming lost media. You are going around to several comments here continuing to argue for pure legality of it all, attempting to shame others for understanding piracy has ultimately saved many games from becoming lost media. I sense you aren’t actually here in any sort of good faith.

​@@blind3dbylight I would not argue that "Piracy is Preservation" but I would argue that it is accessibility (Even if its illegal.) Game accessibility is a separate problem to preservation as preservation is just the act of archiving a work in such a way that it is not lost or destroyed. It dose not have much to do with making games more accessible to the public. My argument would be "Piracy is Accessibility" (Even if illegal).

With half of the budget of a game Nintendo can buy some congressman to change the law in no time. They just don't bother in doing that because it wouldn't be profitable. I'd say we should enjoy this while we can. I have no simpathy towards big companies. I mostly buy indie only to support their effort. Let rich countries audience fund the AAA market. Comparatively they can handle this much better than us in developing countries.

​@@LeafarR1657Nintendo doesn't care

Tbf Nintendo consoles were never popular in Brazil, most of the people who bought it are either youtubers or those lunatics that only buy consoles to play Pokemon on it

​@@Chadfill8348 I'm that lunatic. But 25 years later, I still have nearly every copy, plus many, many other games for those consoles.

Copyright does not always the matter when money is not involved.

Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, most major publishers, along with The Big 3, are leaving money on the table, because I would absolutely, legally support any re-release of their old games released in an affordable and accessible format that isn't tied to a subscription. I'm going to play my retro favourites regardless, and it's up to the companies if they want me to pay them for it.

FACTS

Piracy is an entitlement problem. You are not entitled to play other people's games for free even if they don't make them readily available to play. The Law is clear in this matter.

@@Guy-cb1oh so the guy that doesnt want to pay a couple thousand dollars for old used stuff to play a game from his childhood is entitled? Go stick a baguette in "you know where", amigo

@@Guy-cb1oh Oh, we all know the law protects the rights of suits over cultural preservation; that is nothing new. I've never heard of police breaking down people's doors over downloading some ROMs though. Distributers of ROMS may have a civil trial on their hands if busted, but those of us who download them do not. As such, I do not care whether the law entitles me to play old games the way that's most convenient for me, because I'm going to do it anyways.

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You own the software you create. Not the software someone else created.

@@TheMeanArena So you do not actually own any software that you bought? It is just a temporary rental license? Publishers own the software not the development studios. The artists who make these things are just faceless employees as far as the big corporations are concerned. Chris Roberts crowdfunded Star Citizen on his own terms because EA still owns the rights to his baby Wing Commander. American McGee recently approached EA with a pitch for a third Alice game, but they turned him down because it was going to be a singleplayer game with no monetization, the whole experience made him become completely disillusioned with game development. EA is sitting on a huge mountain of IP that they have no idea what to do with.

​@@michaelvansise4887 Correct! You do not own software that you purchase, only the medium it comes packaged in which obviously you can resell. The rest of what you said I don't see how it relates to piracy.

@@TheMeanArena Good luck reselling PC software. Most things have non-transferable activation keys even when they come on physical media these days.

Either that lawsuit will happen and (begrudgingly) these companies will be saved from their own incompetence, or it won't and they will go out of business because they just killed their own product.

I'm always on the fence about this because some places seem to do a good restoration that is closer in quality to what you might have seen from the original film version, rather than a vhs or dvd copy. Then others are like you said overly corrected using computer tools to correct things that weren't an issue in the first place. I still collect some of my favorite films on bluray though, but lately I've been thinking about making a hard drive 'library' for myself. The other downside to physical media for film is it can degrade somewhat quickly... dvds and even blurays can get damaged or simply stop playing and are difficult to repair. Digital files can be more easily backed up, transferred, etc.

Anaconda used to have a graphic, bloody tracheotomy scene, which was cleaned up via zooming in the bluray. PG-13 used to mean parents would guide, but now there are very few parents paying attention to what their kids watch, so they just sanitize the old works to not be overly graphic. There is a reason all those Star Wars Original Trilogy fan projects exist, and we will eventually see more of that kind of behavior, but not until it is too late, and people lose something that they can't replace.

@@NamelessAidanAbsolutely. Especially small boutique labels often take great care in restoring movies to their best possible authentic versions. Even though you could argue that a pristine scan of the camera negative today looks much better than any 35mm copy ever did. I'm fine with that though.

@@penguinjayYes, Star Wars is the classic example. In the case of Anaconda, I'm not sure if this is just a case of an open matte VHS showing more than later widescreen releases. But these open matte releases still deserve preservation. And of course there are plenty of movies that were only ever released uncut on VHS or maybe Laserdics, like for example Nightmare on Elm Street 1 and 5, which had their unrated cuts widely available.

Don't forget censorship. I have seen a few videos on youtube comparing the same movie in versions that were released in TV in the 70ss 90s and 2010s each with a different audio. The oldest one full of n-words, medium one full of s-words and f-words and the newest one just a nice "I hate that guy"

Shhhhhh!!! Quiet!! Nintendo has their attention in youtube enough to manipulate and inflate the reception of their newer games. This is not a safe space!!

@@tafferchuck1349 It's kind of like the first rule of gaming fight club. You don't talk about gaming fight club.

@@thepancakemann Lmao, we need to push it while being discreet. That way there's always an abundance of sources and nintendo isnt able to push back.

Yeah about that...

Rip

The fat PS2s take every laser revision, and that should be the case on the slims too. I don't stock more than 2 types of lasers for PS2s in my store.

Funner fact about PS2 lasers - they're actually pretty sturdy. You can get away with simply adjusting the laser height most of the time, but people often skip straight to laser replacement. Some will fail eventually, but it's been 24 years and they're still holding it together

@@RaverRacer I personally assume that might not be a great idea considering the PS2 can already allow the laser to impact the surface of the disc when it has trouble tracking, albeit it seems that only Gran Turismo players running the Endurance races encounter it given the amount of hours their consoles run for.

@@BenignStatue71 im sorry, you are correct. My damb ass is refering to the entire disk tray with laser module included. Im not the best with sodering, so i tried to find the entire unit

@@BenignStatue71 it's risk v reward. You can probably get away with it once or twice, but that once or twice will definitely give it some longevity. My PS2 fat is still going strong

The music industry doesn't pay artists anymore, millions of plays on spotify translates to a handful of dollars in revenue.

@@Vanity0666 That's why I said for consumers. They do need to compensate artists better, especially smaller ones.

Legitimately this sounds like a great idea! Barcades but also a video game museum. Amazing!

This is literally a thing in Akihabara. There are bars that provide old school console games for you to play while you drink, but you have to pay "rental fees" per play that are legally kicked back to Nintendo, SEGA, etc. like some sort of mafioso protection racket, or Nintendo and other corpos can shut them down for facilitating piracy.

Yeah we're literally already at that point lmfao it's called a Barcade

@@MastaGambit What barcade have you been to that has all the things I mentioned? I'd like to go.

I know a bar with old consoles and a few "fake" arcade machines (ones where you have dozens of arcade games in one machine). You can play games and get blasted.

I wonder if its per country. In Poland CDs were not too popular until 2000s. You could buy them in the 90s but until 2000 a typical music store would have 90% cassettes and 10% CDs. Around 2000 a huge shift happened switching it to 90% CD and 10% cassette over just 2 years (not sure which years exactly though).

These words are pure gold.

And Atari is a dude who is wearing the skin of the prostitute you once loved.

Don't do anything to lose it. TOS's exist for a reason.

well it seems to me that i didnt lose my account, but i lost some of my games it seems, pretty weird still video explained it, so its not so weird anymore

Why would you give your money to Ubisoft in the first place? Just pirate them

@@anonanonymous9670 Because you're wanting to experience what they created? Worth playing but not paying?

@@TheMeanArena So.... Just pirate Ubisoft games instead of giving them money? Ubisoft rarely makes anything worth playing (or even pirating for that matter)

Yeah it's the BREIN one not that but the reporting has generally failed to recognise there was more than one anti-piracy campaign, probably not helped since the Harry Potter DVD in at least some English speaking territories used the more famous one.

Ahh, A sonic fan in his natural habitat.

physical media deteriorates. digital+emulation is the way to go.

@@anustart989fg As someone who prefers physical games myself, I'm not out here trying to invest in anything. I just want to own the games I'd like to play. While reproduction titles are certainly not to my taste, I do find the prices they go for to be utterly tasteless myself. A bootleg copy of Pokemon FRLG that went on eBay for around 5-10 USD pre-Covid should certainly not be going for around 30-40 USD in today's market. There's also no proper authority making sure that reproduction carts are made to certain standards either. I've known plenty of people end up with unstable reproductions because they were manufactured as cheaply as could possibly be. I throw my hat in the ring that the publishers should do something about it. It certainly would not cost a large company like Nintendo or Microsoft a lot of money to just set up some supply infrastructure for re-releasing old game titles. Heck, they could just throw up listings on their websites for made-to-order batches of the games themselves and just reopen the listings once or twice a year. It's not hard, indie-release titles on older consoles do things like that all the time. Which, might I add, has been a great way for previously canceled titles to eventually get released on their original platforms. I'm already educating myself on how to repair and refurbish my own hardware, but I bet we'd both agree in that the gateway to entry should be far lower than where it currently is.

@@penguinjay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@s0lid_sno0ksthe only sad part: not all content has a digital download 😔😔😔😭😭😭😭

Yes I am all for copyright law but yeah it’s to long

Sameish here, I love the fact that noone can take away my beloved nes and contra

I just wish we actually owned our games on Steam, but its not like Steam will ever take legal action if the company tanks. I can just pirate my steam games after that without much guilt because I can say that I've owned these games before. Like, i've bought Minecraft 4(?) times now on separate platforms, and i've bought Skyrim on 3 separate occasions as well.

@@four-en-tee thats it. i mean nobody ever got into jail for pirating. and as long the company dont exist anymore or its a game for under 10 bucks. who cares

​@@Sneaky_racoon_slyNintendo wants to care lol

yeah if the service is not available hacker will make it hence Hshop for the 3ds or the wiiU downloder for the wiiU games

@@MikeSW Bad news buddy, but that ain't happening. Valve updated the Steam client to use Electron, which is using Chromium to render everything, and Google decided to kill off Win7 support on... Chromium. The future is Electron and JavaScript, give it enough time and even Win10 will no longer be supported, which shouldn't take too long, support for LTSC ends in 2029 iirc. Now if Valve did not update the Steam client to use Electron and kept using VGUI, you would be able to use it without any issue on Win7 and with better performance too.

The thing is they aren't. What they are is the holders of your favorite IP that don't quite deal them out in loveable fashion. The slimiest ones are companies like TakeTwo, EA and Activision Blizzard. You just aren't on their juice so you don't realize how slimy they are. Like WarCraft 3 Reforged exists, the game that actively harmed preservation since it deleted the old version. A lot of their legacy releases are simply because they can take advantage of Windows maintaining backwards compatibility. We can't play any of the old Medal of Honors, Battlefields and what smaller names they own whereas we can play most of old Nintendo's library via NSO. The legacy sports titles would be possible to rerelease if they put in the effort even. It would be better if Nintendo simply left the Wii, Wii U and 3DS eShops open but, like NSO has maintained its price in spite of literally everyone increasing theirs. Even Ubisoft did for their abyssmal Ubisoft+.

im done whit nintendo better get steam deck or window handheld and emulate the heck out of them.

​@@TatsuyaWowmig switch

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Paid online service was the nail in the coffin for me with console gaming, because I already have an online service it's called an ISP - been PC only ever since. (Cheaper hardware costs & the benefits of emulation too!)

This quote is gonna be morphed so much until it turns into “big money game i no own so i no buy”

@@Bakedbeans780 So? You can't lose a sale from somebody who couldn't buy it anyway.

You own the medium, not the software. What is it that you're owning when you download it for free? Nothing, you're pirating software you don't own.

And that makes it OK how exactly?

@@TheMeanArena Because people who payed for the full experience can finally get the full experience through piracy?

@@peteryeeterson5766 You don't dictate what a products full experience is. Next!

@@TheMeanArena "You don't dictate what a products full experience is. Next!" First of all, thats not a counter argument. Second, if stuff was originally in one release of the game and was censored in another release, then the game is missing content. Therefore its not the full or originally intended experience. I don't have to "dictate" anything, its just a fact. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 I still haven't heard a legit justification for piracy. So what content was cut from Ace Combat 3? Localization stuff? (a single game in a sea of thousands).

Emulation for life.

Emulation and piracy is what got kid me to actually play games at all Specially given I'm Brazillian

Emulation is how I discovered Super Mario RPG in 2006, and playing that game is one the best choices I've made.

@@ForestGuardian777 it really is i remember learning about it through the super mario rpg song online and i immediately wanted to know more

Same here. Never really had a nice computer in my childhood/teens so the only games I could really run on it were emulators

Oooooooooh, have fun!!!!!!!!!!!🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮

Just curious but what makes you feel like you're entitled to those games for free without buying them somewhere?

@@TheMeanArena Cuz that’s gay. I’m not entitled to anything I just don’t give a fuck.

@@brimstoner982 Clearly! That just shows the mentality about piracy wrapped in a bunch of nonsense excuses.

@@TheMeanArena I’m not excusing shit. I just don’t wanna pay for a 20 year old game.

Amen!

Also Sony wanted to remove an bunch of Discovery movies users purchased but were forced to back down after backlash and governnment pressure

I love the developers and creatives there as they always seem to push the envelope but the business side is ridiculous. I'm doing research for another video at the mo and their history of pig head ignorance goes all the way back to the n64.

@@Kevstreehouse Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! I’m super excited about the upcoming video then. Nintendo has done a lot of good things for the gaming industry but it can’t be ignored how damaging some of their decisions are. Lately I’ve been thinking a lot about how they influenced the whole gaming culture when it saved the industry from the big video game crash back then. Before that gaming was a quite diverse hobby where people of all ages and genders liked to enjoy the game arcades and such. When the industry crashed it was Nintendo that revived it which is something I’ll always be grateful for but it’s so damn damaging how they suddenly started to aggressively market gaming to young teen boys completely alienating a huge part of the previous player base creating big bias against femme players, pushing video games into certain stereotypes thus limiting creativity and making it even harder for women in the industry to get the respect they deserve. I want to believe that there wasn’t any malicious intention back then but I can’t help and feel some kind of disgust about it. Looking forward to the next video!

@@RikkuX5 yeah really good point there. I have another separate video I'm toying with and I'd love to include a point like that if that's okay with you?

@@Kevstreehouse Of course, I’d love to! Thanks for asking though. I appreciate you a lot.

@@RikkuX5 @RikkuX5 ever since I saw hbomberguys video on yt plagerism I've been trying to get better about that kind of stuff. Really good point and I hate to touch on it and not credit where the inspiration came from. Like I thought I'd done a good job with my citation on this video but he showed me this was even lacking 🤣

Didn't they remaster that one?

@@armandostockvideos8386 The ORIGINAL Ps1 Version

I actually only found out about it recently enough. Think game grumps and did you know gaming had videos on it a few years ago

I knew dolphin used copyrighted code but i didnt know it was bios. Thanks for clarifying

I thought it was because they have decryption keys in their code?

@@XENON2028 oh you're probably right, I forgot what it was called for a while

A bios "file" that was just a 16 byte key. A number somewhere between 10^36 and 10^39. When you really get down to it, every piece of digital media could be described as just really big individual numbers. And once it's been reduced to a single number or series of bytes, that number can be presented in a myriad of ways, including as an actual 5-color flag. The entire key can fit in this youtube comment dozens of times over in different forms. Remind me again how it's legal to copyright something like this? And in what forms is it copyrighted? All of them seems frankly ridiculous, but any of them can be easily converted to any other.

@@angeldude101 BIOS as a concept is used in all kinds of electronic gadgets, and your windows PC is one of those devices. BIOS is an acronym for Basic Input/Output System, and essentially facilitates the software to interface with the hardware at a low level. The BIOS is a much more closely kept secret by the hardware manufacturers, as it operates at the core of the machine. This is where the concept of an API (application programming interface) comes into play, which is basically a set of instructions and guidelines for compatibility between the software on the ROM chip in the cartridge, and the BIOS which exists in a chip in the console. In the early days the concept of an API was a lot more abstract, but the basic function is to obfuscate between the proprietary secret code that exists within the BIOS, and the "public" software code that exists on the cartridge. Yes, the end user paid money for the hardware with the BIOS embedded inside it, but not explicitly as an exclusive license to the proprietary code. In the early days, the BIOS was never public-facing, and generally did not contain an operating system, as an operating system is a layer above the bios, and it wasn't really a necessity in the days of cartridge based systems. So ultimately it comes down to proprietary low level vs publicly licensed higher level software. The Game software is also generally reliant on the BIOS to operate. Technically the BIOS would be written on a ROM chip inside the console, but that's just semantics as far as this debate goes. In Nintendo and Playstation consoles that utilize a BIOS, the proprietary decryption would also be handled by the BIOS, otherwise the game just won't start. Thus why without the BIOS file for said emulators, the games just won't start. At least one early PSX emulator I remember, functioned without the PSX Bios. But it was a really hacky setup and compatibility was a nightmare because of the various encryption used. Dolphin Steam provided that BIOS, ripped directly from the system, in their Steam version. But hey, if you can just mix and match them as you say, then use the PS2 BIOS file in a PSX emulator. Let me know how far that goes.

I always felt the teachers who could make a lesson entertaining retained the most attention even if the subject matter isn't naturally something you maybe interested in.

So true, and so sad 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

You did mention this ^^^ in your video, but on the note of localisation, even current gen systems like the Nintendo Switch don't get priced locally. A Switch here, converted to USD, costs 450 USD, which is a 50% markup from the USA price!! Which is insane because I got a brand new PS4 slim for half of that price in 2018

@@sashanilssen nah you raise a great point there and one a coworker from india recently raised with me. It's a great point and did you know gaming have done a whole book on games that were never released internationally. Here in Europe we missed out on a ton of classic like we didn't get chrono trigger till the ds we have never gotten xenogears and there's a ton of harvest moon games we missed.

many licensed games on gamecube also never released in europe or jak 3 never released in japan@@Kevstreehouse

Thumbs Up for Golden Boy. 👇

True software has always been for license use, but not having physical media makes it way easier for rights holders to exercise those rights.

They are not pirates if it's the only source of owning this games. Most of these games are inside a subscription service or even are unavaliable to purchase today. It is impossible to get Silent Hill 2: Enhanced Edition for PC nowadays without downloading it in an abandonware website.

I have more respect for pirates than i do for "fans" of companies that encourage people to grossly overpay for a product just to experience it in the morally objective way, no matter how much time has passed since release they keep access to those games alive and well for new players to explore and generate new interest

they deserve a ton of credit and and I'm more than happy to give it to them lol

That's because 'gaining power' serves pretty much any other goal. Want to make money? Gain power over your customers and take power away from them.

@@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches power is a weak man’s fantasy. Kings fall. Monopolies get broken up. And in the case of gaming or entertainment in general people have the ability to just “quit”. Not as unlikely anymore in an internet world. Influence beats power everytime when your fans serve you without prompting and they’re happy to do so. Thats why Nintendo and Playstation (and to some degree Xbox) have enjoyed success while competing, and historically Xbox started buying everything up in a scramble when they were losing…winning by owning IP and subscribers.

I'm surprised he didn't have to explain CDs

Youngsters be like: "So silly. Compact discs aren't compact and floppies aren't floppy."

thanks man really appreiacte it espaically as this video didn't do well at all 😅

Totally agree. I had to snap that guy up on physical when it came out. Sadly even that's only a temp fix as eventually either the cart or my switch will breakdown no matter how kindly I look after them.

at least scott pilgrim is back on ps4

Scott pilgrim video game got physical release on switch

Devs have no say, publishers are the issue. Devs will straight up tell you to your face that they want you to pirate their games if you can't get them legally because to us the only thing that matters is whether or not you liked it.

@@Vanity0666 okay, so I had developer and publisher wrong. My point still stands, though.

@@joshdillon9637 they make more money through seeking damages than they would by selling the games legally

I just bought a saturn and a pseudo saturn to play burned discs, the least expensive fpga unit will still run you around $500 meanwhile I spent $70

Honestly, listing an emulator on Steam is a complete waste of time anyway when the ability to add Non-Steam apps to your Library exists.

@@MastaGambit well, dolphin was gonna get cloud saves and maybe remote play together, the thing here is nintendo didn’t wanted dolphin to be on steam bc of how accesible it’d be to regular audiences,most people nowadays don’t know how to download and install a pc program, they just open steam or windows store and download the last version of whatever they need, those people are the thing Nintendo wanted to avoid restricting dolphin into the steam store, not only that, the people who bought a steam deck and don’t know and don’t even care to learn how to install dolphin on steamos linux would have had dolphin pretty easily if it was on steam

@@CarlosAMaldonado I guess cloud saves would be nice, but you can already remote-play apps through Steam Link im pretty sure. Also, the reason nintendo went after it is because it contained product encryption keys.

@@MastaGambit I mentioned the encryption keys on my og comment, and you’re right, you can already use stream play if you use a donor app and replace the .exe file with the dolphin file and rename it to look as the donor, you can do it with retroarch which is free! My main concern is Nintendo didn’t wanted the mainstream public to get dolphin through steam cuz it’s way easier to just get it there than downloading the app from the page

@@CarlosAMaldonado And yet RetroArch is still on Steam iirc, which has nintendo cores

go raibh maith agat. Always nice to see a mother paddy in the comments.

@@Kevstreehouse céad míle fáilte romhat.

We got that complete rebuild of the copyright system. We also got an anti-circumvention law.

Digital takes up WAYYYYY too much space at this current time

All things in the video are the answer, not just digital.

@@FallingStar1080 Incorrect: Memory is cheap nowadays.

@@bootmii98 Citation needed

The Halo 1 port is still the broken port. The needles on the needler are supposed to be translucide, but they aren't

so where halo reach

@@Poodleinacan What are you talking about? I just booted up Halo: CE Anniversary on the MCC and have old graphics on it. And then I booted up my original Xbox with Halo: CE. Not only do both have translucent needles sticking out of the rifle, the 4k resolution makes it so that I actually CAN see things on the other side of the needles themselves.

I’m sick of this history retcon on MCC. It literally did not work for more than a year. I don’t give z as shit if it’s better now, it’s was easily the longest time ever between a games release and being playable. They should have made their asses sued off.

@@theremix54 True. A lot of issues should have been fixed day one. Hell, the entire Halo 3 campaign at first was unplayable unless you did a power dump trick with the Xbox One.

That's awesome 👌

I love tech❤

If you ever do it again, build it on/in a boombox. Pi4 will handle a lot of games w/RetroPie and Android on a separate USB because sometimes you want to watch movie with a cell phone hotspot. Pi5 will be hard to power fully, overclocked, and no headphone jack complicates things a little.

Glad I'm not the only one bothered by it in here. I feel like we're just getting engagement baited.

He probably wants people to click on his video, just guessing..

That's an American Capitalism thing, everywhere else treats consumers with respect The copyright problem stems from the Napster v Metallica case in 03

@@Vanity0666 American capitalism thing? Video games have historically been more Japanese than American. Even today, two of the three first party companies are Japanese. These companies sell internationally. I don't see how their business model differs from Europe, to Asia, to America. It's not like if you bought a PS2 outside the US it would be more durable.

@@spaghettiking7312 no but the consumer culture would be more likely to take better care of their belongings rather than treat them as disposable

@@Vanity0666 These video game consoles weren't designed to last decades, even with good care. I've never been rich, so I've had to take care of my systems, but I'd be hardpressed to say they'd last my lifetime. I'm talking about the company mentality, not the consumer's.

@@spaghettiking7312 they were designed to be repaired and have parts replaced however, its a one inch hurdle