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While sailing on a Catamaran, Lagoon 450 into the Strait of Gibraltar we were attacked by orcas.
Specail thanks to the Tarifa Radio Coast Station for advicing us in this situation!
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@edhall9656
@edhall9656 Год назад
They know you went to SeaWorld
@soulblack621
@soulblack621 4 месяца назад
😂😂
@MisterMediocrity-uu9gx
@MisterMediocrity-uu9gx 26 дней назад
Word gets around.
@ashlibabbitt8609
@ashlibabbitt8609 18 дней назад
😂
@funitoo
@funitoo Год назад
Don't interact with orcas, stay away from the sides of the boat - copy that we are going to the edge of the boat and film them
@jeffgee6319
@jeffgee6319 Год назад
😂
@brettclark2067
@brettclark2067 Год назад
Just plain dumb
@ChristinaMcKay
@ChristinaMcKay Год назад
Exactly what I thought.
@orlandomando8486
@orlandomando8486 Год назад
Not doing anything won't save your life...
@59582NE
@59582NE Год назад
So film them might save you?
@wydryfly
@wydryfly Год назад
At least you know there’s no sharks around when they’re around. 😅
@jplockport1
@jplockport1 Год назад
false thats like saying dolphins dont swim with sharks lol and they do
@wydryfly
@wydryfly Год назад
@@jplockport1 false, dolphins don't eat sharks, killer whales eat the livers of sharks. sharks disappear when Orcas appear. fact!
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 Год назад
@@jplockport1 And dolphins are not all sweetness and light either.
@christophercartlidge5466
@christophercartlidge5466 17 дней назад
Sharks will not gk near an orca they legit kill and eat them for there liver only.​@jplockport1
@NotUnymous
@NotUnymous 5 дней назад
Sharks seem to fear Orcas and flee when they sense one. Also, Orcas do hunt sharks.@@jplockport1
@possum9562
@possum9562 Год назад
Very well ORCA straighted
@craigbmm4675
@craigbmm4675 Год назад
witty
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 Год назад
Naughty possum!
@picterpreterearth
@picterpreterearth 4 месяца назад
AW CAn u grab my camera so I can CH ALKA this up on my bucketlist, and pass me that fORK Huh 'cause I'm gonna eat some pOrk AH!
@matthewjamison
@matthewjamison 2 месяца назад
Orca Strait outta Gibraltar
@thomashigdon5015
@thomashigdon5015 Год назад
Must have been a new orca TikTok challenge. What’s wrong with sea life these days!
@MrRaeberz
@MrRaeberz Год назад
Too much human plastic monsters in the ocean.
@celiagisbert9493
@celiagisbert9493 Год назад
Some orcas are starting to attack ships in response to a aggresions by poachers in Spain
@imdurmac1
@imdurmac1 Год назад
🤣🤣😂🤣😂
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Год назад
This is only happening in this region outside Gibraltar. Orca learn this behavior and it normally starts as a response to some event. It seems logical to assume that one of the local pods had contact with the rudder of a sailboat that resulted in some traumatic event. Maybe a calf was struck and killed or even a matriarch. Such an event would have been traumatic. It is even possible that a young calf could have been hung up and dragged along by a sailboat for some time. In any event; as a result they have started treating these appendages on passing sailboats as threats and try to break them off. They are not attacking the people or any other part of the boat so the root cause is clear.
@travel_sim
@travel_sim Год назад
arguably , but quite possible🤔I think that's how they study the world
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Год назад
@@travel_sim We do know that orca tend to use hunting techniques common to regional pods and rarely adopt new ones. This is thought to be because it is a learned behavior taught to new pod members. They have been seen teaching juvenile orca how to use hunting techniques. This is also why it is hard on Orca populations when their normal food supply is depleted as they don't have a ready source of new food to switch to because they have always hunted a select regional diet, fish, mammals, (other)dolphins, etc and have not learned techniques for hunting other food sources in their region. Some pods can hunt many different food types but these tend to be ocean pods that encounter a larger variety. In my region they stick primarily to salmon and other fish. Even seals and sea lions are a rare snack for them (unfortunate because this would help the salmon population). The decline in local salmon populations, mostly due to neglect of salmon streams and over development, has led to an endangered species designation for them in the Puget Sound region (NW USA).
@travel_sim
@travel_sim Год назад
@@socket_error1000 maybe hunting, but still doesn't feel right, why don't they finish the hunt🤔and something it seems to me that the current cardboard boats are not a big problem for them.
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Год назад
@@travel_sim I was using the hunting techniques to demonstrate that they teach these behaviors to each other and they can become generational behaviors within the pod. I don't think they are hunting the sailboats but simply treating the rudder itself as a threat because of some past negative encounter with a sailboat rudder. Sailboat rudders are typically long and strait, unlike the more square shape normally seen on a propellor driven boat. They would be easily discerned and the sailboat rudders are what are being targeted in these attacks. Even in the one that sank it was because of the damage to the rudder and leaks caused there that led to the loss of the vessel. It should be noted that there are no reports of them attacking the keel of the sailboats either, a much larger and more prominent feature. This makes it less likely this is just playful hooligan behavior of juvenile orca, as some have suggested, as they are not randomly targeting different areas of the boats nor any variety of boats. If these were random attacks I think we would have cases where sport fishermen and pleasure boaters would be reporting hostile encounters with orca when adrift in these waters.
@alanlashbrook6442
@alanlashbrook6442 Год назад
No. They are just bored. Wise up and stop virtue signaling.
@CalledUntoHoliness
@CalledUntoHoliness Год назад
The Little one was carefully observing and learning how to destroy boats lol.
@KS-gd3uj
@KS-gd3uj Год назад
In Hawaii, the sharks have become "trained" to chase boats on the North Shore of Oahu. There are several "shark diving" and "cage" tour companies that take people offshore 1 mile to swim the with sharks. The sharks (Galapagos, Tiger, and reef usually, occasionally great white) are attracted to the sound of the boat motors, because many of these tour companies feed or chum the sharks to attract them. There are many boat tour operators in the Tarifa region offering Orca tours - if they are chumming the waters, this may be why the Orcas attacked your boat. The tour boat companies profit, but puts the non-tour boaters at risk of attack.
@niksuch4169
@niksuch4169 Год назад
Great White, Tiger and Orcas are very intelligent so it's quiet clear that they could as if you are saing, the sound of a boat with feeding. Not only the tourist guided but also from fisherboats there's always a "treat" for them. There are records of schools of orcas besieging tuna fishermen. Especially the fishermen in very small boats from the African side. One or the other came back with only a skeleton.
@rhystekely5622
@rhystekely5622 Год назад
Spear fishers are having the same issues here in Australia. The shark cage tourism has trained the great whites to follow boats and associate them with food. So now everyone that uses boats in the area are at risk.
@bobross5079
@bobross5079 Год назад
Brah ,. good knowledge right there ;)
@surfercanarias
@surfercanarias Год назад
Ok bro but the truth is Orcas protect their natural Feeding zone ( BIG TUNAS). Some orcas was attacked with arpons by fishermans. Sorry my english is bad Im spanish
@sailingdev
@sailingdev Год назад
in San Andres is the same but with manta rays. they will come to you and you can lift them and touch them almost like pets lol is just nuts
@alandavies8431
@alandavies8431 Год назад
Gotta respect our fellow apex preds😂😂❤❤
@alandavies8431
@alandavies8431 Год назад
Dont fuck with orcas .
@alandavies8431
@alandavies8431 Год назад
@Steve Scott
@dylanbenjaminwalter2896
@dylanbenjaminwalter2896 Год назад
Could it have been as simple as them scratching themselves?
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 Год назад
No. This is repeat behavior. Many many sailboats have been attacked. Several have sunk. Pretty clear this pod doesn't like sailboats.
@BostonsF1nest
@BostonsF1nest Год назад
No lol they’ve literally ripped the rudders off boats. It happens often
@dylanbenjaminwalter2896
@dylanbenjaminwalter2896 Год назад
@@BostonsF1nest I wonder if it's because they get fed. There are zero acts of aggression recorded between human ls and Orcas in the wild. And the encounters happen on a daily basis all around the world. No doubt that they'd scan whoever fell in the water and identify them. Seems they either want attention, have been fed from boats or aren't aware of the humans. Mostly at night right?
@dmartinnj
@dmartinnj Год назад
So starting engines is NOT allowed? I would think the engine/prop would keep them away from the rudder. Moving the boat would not stop them??? You would think it would...
@Arthurskipper
@Arthurskipper 17 дней назад
If you move the boat with orcas playing with the rudder, you can sink your boat. 😉⛵️
@the_grand_tourer
@the_grand_tourer 14 дней назад
@@Arthurskipper It doesn't make any sense, if the boat is moving or not, rudder damage can be fatal to a boat ... I'd rather be moving under sail, hope to be clearing their location.
@meadmaker4525
@meadmaker4525 Год назад
For instances like this, they should equip a hydrophone beneath the hull that can be activated to create an unpleasant frequency when this sort of thing occurs. Harmless to the animals and saves damage to the boat, not to mention people's lives. It was only a few months ago that orcas attacked a monohull and everyone on board was killed. Simply floating there, playing dead, and hoping they don't sink the boat isn't really good enough. This is happening way too often not to take some sort of creative action to deter the orcas from pursuing this behavior. Thus far, I think the hydrophone would be the best possible idea.
@brendanukveteran2360
@brendanukveteran2360 Год назад
Hydrophones receive - they do not transmit. You mean some kind of [expensive !] sonar. Sonar has never deterrred any whale or similar form approaching sea going vessels. Orcas are curious animals and they are interacting with somehing in their space ....;and I for one would have been very concerned if I had been on that boat....big powerful fish vs manmade structure in deep water....some experts think the Orcas are wanting the engines to turn the props so they can "enjoy" the prop wash...might be tru and it might not but either way - not an enjoyable encounter.
@WOTArtyNoobs
@WOTArtyNoobs 4 месяца назад
@@brendanukveteran2360 The answer might be an LRAD system fitted for underwater propagation. LRAD are extremely uncomfortable for human ears because the volume is intense. They fixed LRADS on ships being attacked by pirates so that they could broadcast intense noise at a distance. It seems that the Orcas are focusing on the rudders and the centerboards, so it might be necessary to have removable boards fitted.
@i.s.2675
@i.s.2675 2 месяца назад
​@@brendanukveteran2360 they are not fishes, mate)))
@miloradpopovicflyer
@miloradpopovicflyer 2 месяца назад
What about simple big firecrackers?
@oceanbnd
@oceanbnd Месяц назад
That's a better suggestion than mine.
@johncastagna9279
@johncastagna9279 Год назад
Wouldn’t it make sense to start the engines and sail away?
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 Год назад
An Orca can swim two and a half times faster than any cruising Cat that has ever been built.
@peterd1459
@peterd1459 Год назад
That's another reason why I love my steel boat.
@sailing61
@sailing61 Год назад
Wonder how Orca tastes.... hand me my harpoon will find out....
@sunroy1
@sunroy1 Год назад
We charted a Lagoon 450 a few years ago. I know those windows in the berth. I’d be very intimidated seeing orcas swimming around the hulls.
@omz31
@omz31 Год назад
Maaaan, after a few hits, it’s either me or them…I’m shooting them 🤷🏽‍♂️
@ZANGOJOE
@ZANGOJOE Год назад
It's one thing to have sharks around you, but a complete different and more frightening thing when you have highly intelligent killers circling your boat.
@sdeshera
@sdeshera Год назад
Need to make a retractable rudder protector. Razor sharp blades . Let them slice their faces up . Maybe they will pass on that lesson.
@567davefair
@567davefair Год назад
couldn't some form of radio frequency that orca find very unpleasant but not damaging be transmitted out from the hull to send them away?
@thinkcasting3182
@thinkcasting3182 Год назад
Yes, Frequency 7.62
@Darenbranch
@Darenbranch Год назад
that’s what I thought, maybe something like a sonar you can drop into the water which emits a frequency that they don’t like, as long as it doesn’t make them worse that is !
@bertplank8011
@bertplank8011 Год назад
Obviously the Coast guard should arm up with a large calibre rifle and firei if neceassary ....Once they become emboldened this could become a serious life threatenin problem....nip it in the bud. Its like the croc problem in Aussie....they USED to move away rapidly now theyre taking lives every year in some gruesome incidents too.
@lcarus42
@lcarus42 Год назад
@@thinkcasting3182 I was thinking the good ol M80
@susanb4816
@susanb4816 Год назад
Or something they find soothing and nonthreatening
@halboone4127
@halboone4127 Год назад
Those are not orca, just angry dolphins!!!! Swim with them and they will be happy
@glamdring0007
@glamdring0007 Год назад
There's a reason they're called killer whales and not ocean ponies...
@iroc341
@iroc341 Год назад
Thanks, Ron!
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
By the comments descriptions, I think they're disgruntled ocean unicorns.
@paulvr3158
@paulvr3158 4 месяца назад
'Whale Killers' actually, it's a meaning lost in translation.
@maryjoymary9433
@maryjoymary9433 Год назад
New fear unlocked
@philiptowell3281
@philiptowell3281 Год назад
Who doesn’t like chewing plastic things? Such a nice sensation
@adrenazanetti3660
@adrenazanetti3660 Год назад
I wonder if you weren’t inadvertently in a nursery or birthing area? This seems to be happening more and more with orcas
@Cyndy101
@Cyndy101 Год назад
good point!!!
@grzegorzfajfer3987
@grzegorzfajfer3987 Год назад
OREK, ORKOWIE TO BYLI W WŁADCY PIERŚCIENIA
@MomsTravelTeam
@MomsTravelTeam Год назад
Oh my gosh - this must have been so scary!
@fraa888grindr6
@fraa888grindr6 Год назад
Orcas, in the Straight of Gibraltar, have been attacking and sinking boats for over a year (2022-2023). It's thought possibly over competition for fish with fishing vessels operating in the straight.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Год назад
Then why don't they attack fishing vessels? They are bright enough to notice the obvious differences between such vessels and how they act in open sea. No sailing boats are busy fishing like stationary fishing boats ...
@fraa888grindr6
@fraa888grindr6 Год назад
@@OmmerSyssel they have, though smaller ones. They're large brained, intelligent mammals - they're not going to attack something they can't successfully dominate. Similar to their experience in nature, they coordinate attacks on species where they've a clear advantage, whether by size, speed, health, or circumstance. Orcas generally avoid other species that pose a serious threat i.e the male sperm whale or pilot whale, unless those whales are sick/injured. So, likewise, orcas coordinate attacks on smaller sea vessels whom they 1) see as a threat and 2) likely can dominate. Orcas, in the Straight of Gibraltar , are the only orcas throughout the world to be documented attacks a sea vessel. It's a completely isolated phenomenon.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
Whales have been attacking boats for many centuries. There's no reason necessary. They are just oceanic pests that are aggressive and "territorial" (water version).
@kaspervestergaard2383
@kaspervestergaard2383 Месяц назад
@@OmmerSyssel You are giving it way to much credit. It's a fucking animal after all. They are smart, but to say they know the difference between a fishing boat and a normal one is rather optimistic.
@dc1544
@dc1544 Год назад
Are the rudders white? Black? would be nice to know what color rudder are being attacked most.
@talulatilly
@talulatilly Год назад
Was thinking the same
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
I was thinking the same. Maybe paint them the color of their predators, or a foreign color like bright red?
@dc1544
@dc1544 Год назад
@@jackfntwist I do not think they have predators except men. Maybe a bright color could work.
@Antipodean33
@Antipodean33 Год назад
They've heard about the shit build quality of those lagoons and are testing the bulkheads to see if it's seaworthy or not
@kay834
@kay834 6 месяцев назад
lol exactly - glad someone said it. they want the shittty lagoons on the bottom of the ocean
@mikecarnivale7304
@mikecarnivale7304 Год назад
ID curious to find out if every single one of these boats that keep getting attacked by orcas are using a certain type of depth sonar or the same brand of depth sonar. I'm wondering if there's equipment that's putting out a certain frequency thats driving the orcas crazy.
@ct1762
@ct1762 Год назад
nah. its all basically one of 4 frequencies. its just food. they are trying to get people to throw them food. not that difficult to figure out.
@HRkapitan
@HRkapitan Год назад
@@ct1762 What food would you give them, a can of sardines from the fridge, maybe a banana or an apple
@paddlefar9175
@paddlefar9175 Год назад
@@HRkapitan A Salmon? ... or a Chihuahua. No sorry, that last one would just be me, in my dream, throwing the neighbour’s Chihuahua overboard for peeing on my ankle during the day.
@ct1762
@ct1762 Год назад
@@HRkapitan what? how would an Orca know what food you have? but yes, sardines would be perfect . its the fact that they are waiting for food. not that deep or complicated.
@Icarus_II
@Icarus_II Год назад
@@ct1762 They aren't waiting to be thrown food, these orcas have a specific diet and they are perfectly capable of getting it for themselves. The sound of the engines are irritating them in some way. In the video they were told to shut off the engines and wait. After a few hours the orcas left, then when they turned their engine back on , the orcas returned.
@nzmeateater
@nzmeateater Год назад
Take the hint from the Orcas and leave, your in their space.
@asabove_sobelow_333
@asabove_sobelow_333 Год назад
Curious to know how their behavior changed, if at all, when you turned off the engine/electronics and their behavior when they returned after you restarted the engine? Did you notice a change in where they were hitting the cat, if more hit the boat at one time or how often they hit and where? I look forward to your reply.
@DeeDeevanGogh
@DeeDeevanGogh Год назад
You ask too many questions. Please try to keep it to one question per comment. Thank you.
@Omega-wi6fl
@Omega-wi6fl Год назад
Nah... nothing they just wanted trouble from the start.
@autumnryn
@autumnryn Год назад
It says at the end they came back when they switched the engines on.
@MartinezC.
@MartinezC. Год назад
​@DeeDeevanGogh you must be Russian KGB
@DeeDeevanGogh
@DeeDeevanGogh Год назад
@@MartinezC. Close. I fish professionally all over the world. Much like the KGB what we do requires covert intel and it's all top secret. #SlavaRussia
@ethanmurray2203
@ethanmurray2203 Год назад
A few seal bombs would have done it. Worst case, play the Motley Cru song "I'm Coming Home" over and over. It's been proven to drive the listener away
@NZL50505
@NZL50505 Год назад
I heard these attack orcas have been trained by the local repair boatyards
@davidhakes3884
@davidhakes3884 Год назад
Hahaha, just as I suspected, !!!
@Veldtian1
@Veldtian1 Год назад
😆😆😆
@Martin37vg
@Martin37vg Год назад
Exactly what i thought Wonder what they are getting paid per rudder.
@NZL50505
@NZL50505 Год назад
@@Martin37vg apparently the going rate is 10kg of sardines
@m.gertrudish.g.7630
@m.gertrudish.g.7630 Год назад
Very clever chaps!
@zappaduck4782
@zappaduck4782 3 дня назад
orca v 12 gauge ........orca Always Sinks!!!!
@samcarrs
@samcarrs Год назад
If your bulkheads weren’t already cracked they are now.
@curtissharris8914
@curtissharris8914 Год назад
Play them some violin music
@michaelreed9805
@michaelreed9805 Год назад
If this had been an actual attack there would be no doubt about it. You would know right away. Curiosity from a marine animal this big will do some damage...but a actual attack would disassemble your craft pretty quick
@huga-t3j
@huga-t3j 6 дней назад
it's their theretorium, we're just guests in there, shit happens, gladyou're safe
@TRACKERV
@TRACKERV Год назад
Just curiosity on the orcas part. If that many of them had been truly attacking, we would never have seen that film.
@youtooaromatherapyyoga2991
@youtooaromatherapyyoga2991 Год назад
I agree! They’re one of the ocean’s top predators and if they wanted they’d have done way more damage! Why are they filming over the side of the boat when they’ve been specifically told not to?
@margaretep.
@margaretep. Год назад
Wow! Das war aber ein Abenteuer, Gott sei dank, alles hatte ein gutes Ende, liebe Grüsse!
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Год назад
Ganz große Kino 😱😆
@dan-sc7fm
@dan-sc7fm 18 дней назад
According to the experts on Orca behavior, it's not an attack but rather the younger orcas having a little fun, playing.
5 дней назад
training even, for catching tuna!
@emersoncoelho7187
@emersoncoelho7187 4 дня назад
That behavior is clearly not a "playing" type of behavior. They are not hunting but there's something that they don't like in certain boats maybe the sound of some propulsion motors but they are not playing for sure.
@dan-sc7fm
@dan-sc7fm 4 дня назад
@@emersoncoelho7187 Look into what the orca experts who study them say. They suggested it was a form of play from the young ones.
@dan-sc7fm
@dan-sc7fm 4 дня назад
@emersoncoelho7187 NPR news had a report about this behavior, and they interviewed people who study orcas and this group in particular.
@peterjarnes25
@peterjarnes25 Год назад
Attacked... more like played with.
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 Год назад
My daughter's dog used to play with lizards. Would bring them into the house to play. You would not like to be one of the battered bleeding corpses that dog had played with. I had to euthanize a few.
@stefanmargraf7878
@stefanmargraf7878 Год назад
I f it is a more serious attack, i would recommend something else: detonating Birdbangers (Pyroknallpatronen, Umarex, P1, Blitzkartusche), shot by a flare pistol into the water. They detonate in the water after a few seconds swimming and do no harm to the animals beside of the loud bang. There have been live threating attacks. I believe they learned that those boats are evil, because of an accident with an orca baby and a boat. The problem is, that aggressive behaviour is learned by the others, meanwhile.
@craigbmm4675
@craigbmm4675 Год назад
yup my thoughts too . flare into the water .. or gun shots
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 Год назад
I wondered if they like chili oil. It spreads like magic on water. Breathing it in is about the least fun you can have.
@freddybeltran5148
@freddybeltran5148 Год назад
This has been happening in coasts of Spain and Portugal since at least 2 years
@mateobarrett6829
@mateobarrett6829 Год назад
Orcas are highly intelligent creatures. The Mediterranean Sea is basically empty due to overfishing at this point, and Orcas are intelligent enough to realize HUMANS are to blame. They're starving, and they know exactly why. They seem to attack the boats particularly when the engines are on, as moving boats are a threat to their food. As we destroy our oceans, the intelligent species that live within it aren't going to play nice anymore.
@bargepoled
@bargepoled Год назад
Yes and they are teaching their young to do it. One theory is that they know humans are to blame for the lack of fish in the area so they are seeking revenge
@bargepoled
@bargepoled Год назад
@@janm.j9924 well they are very intelligent!
@freddybeltran5148
@freddybeltran5148 Год назад
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@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Год назад
@@bargepoled why should such a bright animal attack sailing boats which doesn't fish? If they're starving wouldn't they seek other hunting grounds instead of wasting energy on sailing vessels, which they have no interest in after sinking? More likely a new sort of entertainment, like playing baseball with seals without eating them.
@ChristopherNips81
@ChristopherNips81 Год назад
I was doing my RYA Yachtmaster in Marbella, Spain in 2021 and we took several voyages through the straights. The first time we heard a mayday for an orca attack just 5 NM from our position. We saw them get helicoptered off their small sailboat. The next trip a month later we were in La Liñea and SEVEN cats were in the marina for rudder repairs. As we departed, a family monohull was getting ready to head north as we were heading east back into the Med. As they were checking out, they were asking the marina about attacks. Sure enough, we heard their mayday over the radio less than an hour later. This has been going on for years, but it was very common during that time.
@alandavies8431
@alandavies8431 Год назад
Great to hear from the horses mouth ,very much apprieciated to hear the reality.make sure its all well documented too as its great info as ur there to witness it,gotta love fresh info 😘
@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786
This is incredible! Imagine the raw power of these majestic creatures ❤
@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786
Does anyone know or have Theory on why they do this? I'm very intrigued to understand. Do they want to eat the humans? Do they view them as a threat? They're irritated by the sound of the engine frequency it's putting off? Maybe the engine scares away their prey?
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Год назад
@@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786they are just curious animals
@jeffoneill3429
@jeffoneill3429 Год назад
@@fritty9927There is likely much more to this than just being curious IMO.
@fabreezem8174
@fabreezem8174 Год назад
Ok, so I have the same boat, I know for a fact that both engines at 3000rpm gives you a solid 9 to 10 knot top speed not accounting for additional sail power, at the very least it would make them work for it and soon lose interest, with that in mind. I would have sped up and not set there like a huge scratching post. Sounds like he has family on board to protect, the Orcas could have easily damaged his prop and let in quite a bit of water through that saildrive. Than he would of been in a real dilemma, a sinking boat with angry orcas waiting for you. I hope people can get their priorities in check at times like this, quite frankly I don't care how endangered something might be, At the end of the day if it's your family's safety or theirs, I think most people here would choose self-preservation. 😅
@billorr2213
@billorr2213 Год назад
What an incredibly ignorant point of view. You’re in their domain. They are protected in most jurisdictions. If you are so irresponsible to suggest utter disregard for creatures such as these then you seriously don’t deserve to be at sea. Unbelievable hubris. This is why I’m a misanthrope. 😠
@graceydez6199
@graceydez6199 Год назад
Then don’t boat. But of course you are suggesting killing them.
@briansrensen8204
@briansrensen8204 18 дней назад
Agree. Sadly 90% of comments seems to come from sofa skippers.
@ATAP...AnotherTime
@ATAP...AnotherTime Год назад
This happens when a boat injures a orca... They all defend
@RoySATX
@RoySATX Год назад
The Orca in that area have a history of this, they've sent many sailboats in for repairs and have sunk a few. And they are actively teaching this behavior to the calves. It's been going on for years and is getting worse, no sign the Orca are getting bored of it yet.
@Chwodnacoc
@Chwodnacoc Год назад
Humans follow them to take the fishes they’re supposed to hunt, and attack them if orcas try to get some from those fishing companies, so they have to do what they have to do. These pots are close to extinction already.
@kampflabor2227
@kampflabor2227 Год назад
Maybe they are bored with the people loitering on their sea.
@boatlifescotland
@boatlifescotland Год назад
They sunk reportedly two boats, one of the boats with structural damage before even the incident with the orcas happened. There was never an “attack” as what marine biologists would account as attack on any boat. This are interactions that unfortunately cause damages to the boats and more unfortunately two to sink. But no human life lost yet. I’m myself a sailor and I have to say that I don’t understand sailors still using this passages solo and not in convoys. The orcas only interact with single boats, not with convoys or more than two boats. I know it’s not completely unavoidable to use this area but at least don’t attend the passage with a single boat. There are also measures that keep the orcas of the boat like towing a dinghy behind and the orcas plat normally with the dinghy instead of the sailboat. A real attack would be that the orcas would jump onto the deck to damage the structure and to sink it in like they do with whales. Sadly no one knows if this interactions are intentionally or just out of curiosity or training of the calves. Also is a decline in whales being observed in this area, might be a reason why orcas use sailboats as substitution or it’s even a revenge for us fishing their food away (which I personally doubt because they would attack most likely the fishing boats and not sail boats). Also I hope that people don’t start reacting violent towards the orcas by using fireworks, guns or even pouring diesel or engine oil into the sea. To make a pod of orcas angry won’t end up well for the boat and crew though. We normally see only 1/3 of the entire pod, mostly one or two adults and the calves, the pod is most likely three times bigger as what we see, when they get angry and really try to sink a boat it will happen for sure. I doubt that (expect maybe a steel or aluminium yacht) will be able to withstand a hit of a jumping orca. This would mean a hit of 6 tons punctual onto the hull, I doubt that the structural integrity will withstand this force, which would cause the boat to break apart and sink, but even if it would withstand this punctual force, it would definitely flood the boat by sinking it in and the boat, because most likely the doors might be open will take on water which will also result in sinking the boat… each way the outcome of a real attack would be devastating for the boat and crew…
@lucplisson2115
@lucplisson2115 Год назад
Some of the Orcas in this region have a history of being part of the U.S. Navy U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program (NMMP), target identification, search for drifting divers and neutralization of nautical vectors... a few decades ago, killer whales of the MK xx series did not return to their enclosure, including one positioned off Morocco. they transfer their "gains" to other lineages and to young people.
@alexmaness4138
@alexmaness4138 Год назад
Can we shoot them if my family is under attack?
@jamesmason8944
@jamesmason8944 Год назад
I know it would be highly illegal but what if the crew shot one of them.? Would it scare them away or turn them into an attacking frenzy.?
@pacific7775
@pacific7775 Год назад
M80s being thrown near them may have changed their tune
@hawkman302
@hawkman302 Год назад
So they attack the thing that is needed to get back to shore. Do nothing? Play dead so you may die because of the damage anyways. Interesting tactic. I guess we won’t know from the ones it failed.
@americanpatriot8402
@americanpatriot8402 Год назад
You need long poking devices to show them it will hurt if you do this.
@shellymilligan2953
@shellymilligan2953 Год назад
It’s their home!!!
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
@@shellymilligan2953 It's not their home. It belongs to everyone.
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 Год назад
In this area, you all need to carry some cherry bombs. they are small fireworks that will blow up underwater, do not hurt the Orcas but you need to tell them no and to stop. the min the look like they are playing with rudder you drop one into the water away from them and make a boom, these Orca have learned how to play with sailboat rudders.
@heimihenderson4543
@heimihenderson4543 Год назад
Why didn’t they drop some depth charges and blow those oversized dolphins to hell?
@briansrensen8204
@briansrensen8204 18 дней назад
My thoughts exactly. Never understood the advise of doing nothing even in a potentially dangerous situation. Had it been a pod of rogue bears they would have been dealt with a long time ago
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 13 дней назад
depth charges??? Dude would you be sailing the ocean with sticks of dynamite on board? a single spearfishing gun would do
@stealthybushcraft4545
@stealthybushcraft4545 10 дней назад
They have been hurt by boats before, so they don't like you being around. If they wanted to sink you it would of been done in seconds
@bedford1941
@bedford1941 Год назад
pole spear ...spear guns ...shot guns hand guns riles all need to be carried if passinf here ..sorry to say this but they are teaching there young to do this and if they attact you then you should be able to fight back they may get the message
@MonkPetite
@MonkPetite Год назад
According to the presented study’s the orcas behaviour is trained due to fishermen. Apparently they where fishing here and orcas waited for the fish to be hauled up to their depths to catch some fish. Now the sea is empty and orcas don’t have any thing to feed on. So now they nock on the door of any vessel.
@jaeljade3609
@jaeljade3609 Год назад
exactly.
@SledPemberton
@SledPemberton Год назад
Probably the fishermen were feeding them with their waste catch. Doesn't take much to alter an animal's behavior.
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 Год назад
@@SledPemberton I was on a commercial fishing vessel. Because of quotas and restrictions on the kind of fish we were allowed to catch we were throwing back a continual stream of around half a tonne of "by catch" every net haul. Forced by governments to do that, unless you want to have your boat confiscated and go to jail.
@stephaniemorrissey5114
@stephaniemorrissey5114 23 дня назад
The sea is not empty 😂😂😂
@MonkPetite
@MonkPetite 23 дня назад
@@stephaniemorrissey5114 I don’t understand your comment really well. Are you laughing and dismiss the dacht that the sea is empty of is it my type O and bad grammer. It’s stupid to short line a comment to end with emoji. Nobody understands what you like to say. Nevertheless the sea is Empty for them. I pointing to the orcas. And as many fishermen admitted they can’t find any bleu tip tunas . Also the Mediterranean sea is empty. Only fish farms are in abundance of fish. If you know better please hand out that data and make us all happy
@honumoorea873
@honumoorea873 Год назад
I can't see any attack... you maybe better stay on land as I see it.... Lol Maybe they do not want your petrol trash boat in their ocean...?
@suparerksoponpis4450
@suparerksoponpis4450 Год назад
They might need help. I saw one clip that they stop the boat and then the boat follow them to see one of them being tangle with string net. And a guy on the boat cut it to free the one.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
interesting theory. they are trying to turn the boat, maybe?
@lorenwilson8128
@lorenwilson8128 Год назад
Carry some loud firecrackers to light and toss in the water. They will leave.
@horse-lover68
@horse-lover68 Год назад
I did not understand everything what they talked in the radio - did the coast guard offer help?? What if the orca's had sunken she vessel?? I don't want to be in a plastic rescue thingi with 15 orca's arround me which just sunk my boat?? Did the coat guard say they will come and help you???
@christopheripad477
@christopheripad477 Год назад
It wasn’t the Coast Guard, it was a radio station that was listening on Ch16. They did offer advice, these 2 decided to ignore some of it.
@briansrensen8204
@briansrensen8204 18 дней назад
@@christopheripad477 rightfully so since the advice was useless
@wpolycarpo
@wpolycarpo 6 месяцев назад
De resposta a s orcas. O que poderia fazer um bom arqueiro nesta situação são bons alvos.
@macman1469
@macman1469 Год назад
Orcas showing you don't have to be a human to be an arsehole .
@gkemplen
@gkemplen Год назад
Maybe because humans in boats are depleting their food source. Not sure if they can figure that out but it’s a thought.
@JonDunnmusician
@JonDunnmusician Год назад
I have read a lot of ignorant comments over the years but this one may take the cake
@crazyfish9977
@crazyfish9977 Год назад
🤡
@hawaiianrayz
@hawaiianrayz Год назад
Attacked?! I don't see anything that shows an attack going on
@D.M.ggww21
@D.M.ggww21 4 месяца назад
Amazing animals. And so graceful. And they know what there doing.
@scottb2231
@scottb2231 Год назад
Attacked? It looked they were probing the hull. I've seen Orca's hunt in Puget Sound and they get going at massive speeds (15-25 kph?) - if they wanted to "attack" it would be much worse IMO. I would suspect it may be a curiosity - as if the rudder mimics the dorsal of a capsized whale. This behavior appears more curious than aggressive. Unfortunately, the results are not good for these boats.
@Steve-cs8nd
@Steve-cs8nd Год назад
They will kill someone if something is not done.
@rustykilt
@rustykilt Год назад
There is no real aggression. they seem to be more inquisitive. but it is frightening.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
No aggression? You seem to not understand how strong fiberglass / metal is.
@littleredhen3354
@littleredhen3354 Год назад
I wonder how these orcas would react to broadcasting the vocalizations of a large pod of pilot whales🤔
@editingreality4779
@editingreality4779 Год назад
Something must have happened. These beautiful but dangerous creatures don’t just attack your vessel. Did they hit one while sailing or did one get tangled up into their anchor. Something is wrong here and I bet these orcas are trying to save one of their own family members. Probably one is caught up in their anchor line or the boat hit one.
@menacceterro2554
@menacceterro2554 Год назад
Leave the animal alone 🐬🐳🐋👀👀👏👏🌍🤣🤣🤣
@vancekeith5642
@vancekeith5642 Год назад
Curious to why the engine isn't on and your underway attempting to leave the area?
@michelles1517
@michelles1517 Год назад
Yeah exactly
@carloslee2663
@carloslee2663 2 месяца назад
The orcas can swim at 60 km pero hour, the are so faster than the bost
@el_Contra
@el_Contra Месяц назад
as soon as he turned his engine on, they returned... (it's in the vid)
@briansrensen8204
@briansrensen8204 18 дней назад
it shouod have been, but the coast guard continues to give this stupid advise of just waiting it out
@AMan-io7wt
@AMan-io7wt Год назад
If you shot one would the lot of them become distracted by sharks?
@mojoneko8303
@mojoneko8303 Год назад
I've sailed the coast of Alaska for months at a time for 20+ years. I've had several Orcas come very close to my boat on many occasions but I've never had one actually make contact with it. Up here in the summer the Orcas are more interested in feeding on schools of salmon than messing with boats unless your a commercial fisherman with a net full of Salmon.. I think these Orcas in the Straits of Gibraltar are bored and have created a new game. Sail Boat Tipping. 🙂 Maybe if you fired off an air horn or even an air cannon under water that would drive them off. Good Luck
@Cyndy101
@Cyndy101 Год назад
I agree!
@MobileMood
@MobileMood Год назад
Orca's are smart and humans in the ocean are on their turf so to speak.
@humanbean1424
@humanbean1424 Год назад
If I was there, i wouldve gotten into the waters so they can sense my positive energy.
@canadat4380
@canadat4380 26 дней назад
A positive lunch
@faranger
@faranger Год назад
Sorry but I would be fighting back.
@ShinLeeChan
@ShinLeeChan Год назад
THe boat had no major damage. Do you think that you could survive if they were seriously attacking the boat? c'mon guys use the brain. These orcas aren't fighting, so no need to fight back.
@helderferreira1610
@helderferreira1610 Год назад
Now the nightmare will be to fix the boat in tanger. Good luck and lots of patience
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Год назад
No sensible German would be that naive... 💰🐖💰
@princehector5843
@princehector5843 23 дня назад
I know all about it, I am a Moroccan and soremar are amateurs.
@rubenspinola802
@rubenspinola802 Год назад
turn the engine and go against them...reverse gear
@solidtangent9953
@solidtangent9953 Год назад
Attacked by orcas not really, you were just being dramatic. Looks like they were just curious. You have to remember you’re in their ocean not yours. If they wanted to attack, they could easily sync that catamaran under five minutes.
@deanatkins988
@deanatkins988 Год назад
Yea they would be lit up with a 50 caliber.
@simoneconsciousobserver3105
Wow, I have heard of Orcas attacking vessels. How horrific that must have been
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 Год назад
Talk about a helpless feeling. Can't get way from them. That's a 40+ ft.boat too. They're pretty brazen.
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 Год назад
I agree a 45’ boat is a fair sized boat. I’m not sure if it’s a cat but if it is, it’s a really big boat.
@MrSilus2000
@MrSilus2000 Год назад
​@@jeffhodge7272This particular boat weighs like 35,000 pounds the orca can't do shit even if it wanted
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 Год назад
@@MrSilus2000 The sure can damage to the rudder.Then you have no way to control and you become driftwood. 😏
@MrSilus2000
@MrSilus2000 Год назад
@@jeffhodge7272 are they really gonna come close to the propeller though?
@ragga_muffin_84
@ragga_muffin_84 Год назад
If it hadn’t of been the orcas that would have been orcward
@jaeljade3609
@jaeljade3609 Год назад
its humans fault. not these humans, but fish are harder for them to find. certain pods eat certain things and they aren't stupid, they know what boats do....fish and we have over fished. I didn't make this up. Also a baby orca was struck by a boat. Just imagine their terror. I wish people would have more compassion instead of what I've read here in the comments. We take and take and take from the ocean and get a little upset when smart creatures decide to fight back.
@Gatmow
@Gatmow 4 месяца назад
A new study came out saying that it may be that the orcas are actually just bored. That due to the recovery of the fish stocks they do not need to work as hard to feed themselves so they’re playing with boats…. What a scary experience.
@D.M.ggww21
@D.M.ggww21 4 месяца назад
What freaks me out. There so smart.
@humbertomonteiro6742
@humbertomonteiro6742 Год назад
They have already sunk 2 sailboats On the coast of Portugal... 😮😮
@whistlerlife7180
@whistlerlife7180 Год назад
anyone die? they have insurance? competent sailers? have the proper repair materials for offshore sailing & know how? appropriate offshore boat? Sailing is not mall shopping, there are risks, still pirates too. *Ships hitting whales have killed at least 12 in Canada this year & injured many more...
@Mach1Greeble
@Mach1Greeble Год назад
@@whistlerlife7180 Not much repair work too be done when a whale swims off with your rudder and leaves a gaping hole in your boat.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Год назад
@@whistlerlife7180 it's not a question of competences or adequate behaviour. These vessels are not constructed for attacking creatures ...
@whistlerlife7180
@whistlerlife7180 Год назад
@@Mach1Greeble read 'Nigel Calders repairs at sea' lots that could be done if you are prepared & understand there are many possible risks in offshore sailing. Some boats are inherently weaker/lighter in design/construction and are easier to damage & harder to repair ie spade rudders, bolt on keels, balsa cored hulls etc
@whistlerlife7180
@whistlerlife7180 Год назад
@@OmmerSyssel Yes I agree, as the owner of a 49' 24 ton Colin Archer for 26 year, out board rudder on Gudgeon/pintles (no hole in hull for steering tube), encapsulated ballast in the solid hull, I would feel more secure, from deadheads, semi- submerged objects ie containers, groundings etc as well. I would also try to alter course to avoid any hazard that might sink or endanger my crew & boat; hurricanes, pirates, poorly charted reefs/shallow water, Icebergs, the Sargasso sea....
@Joe90V
@Joe90V Год назад
The music over the top is really calming, don't know what all the fuss is?
@marcbloch1963
@marcbloch1963 Год назад
They only attack lagoons as they have figured out how cheaply they are built….🤣
@willknight1005
@willknight1005 3 месяца назад
Orcas hate defective bulkheads and poor quality 👍
@captainjimolchs
@captainjimolchs 24 дня назад
I believe it's the flavor of the gel coat.
@BRP_USA
@BRP_USA 7 дней назад
Were you sailing or anchored?? I had an ENCOUNTER a few weeks ago off the coast of Finistere in the Galacia region of Spain. After several proactive maneuvers and maintaining enough situational awareness to get the whale off my rudder, this was all it took to disengage their interest and they moved on. You are sitting there, frozen, with your phone out, and allowing them to do what they want, like a cat playing with a toy, they will take advantage of the situation and play around until they damage something. Let's be clear; these are ENCOUNTERS not attacks. If they were attacks a lot more boats would be sunk and possible lives lost.
@hegedusattila5655
@hegedusattila5655 Год назад
Maybe they are protecting something in that area. Don't attack really the boats justcheck it. If that ship was attacked by them, it wouldn't look like this.
@andrewwardle-bu9yx
@andrewwardle-bu9yx Год назад
stay away from the sides stay calm and under no circumstances do and filming ... ha ha
@TheAgentAssassin
@TheAgentAssassin Год назад
hold the camera
@TrondOleJensen
@TrondOleJensen Год назад
Filming #1 priority 😂 get out of sight for fuc.. sake. As long as they can see you they won’t leave. What part of stay away from the sides did you not understand?
@hwn8088
@hwn8088 Год назад
U know if they wanted they could sink the sailboat real quick could be an area where the Orcas ,, give birth so protecting their Babies from anything that might harm them so smashing the sailboat and tearing at the Rudders letting you know not to sail around these areas..That is what I think is happening who knows maby they just being kids and the sailboat is a new Toy that they can tear apart lol 😅😂😮🦈🦈
@HondoTrailside
@HondoTrailside Год назад
Or someone, some day, ran down a baby with a sailboat, and they are not impressed. Person in the boat would probably not even know it. We had a cat that tried to climb a juniper to get a grackle nest. From that point on, every time, during the season, that she was outside a grackle was posted to follow her and make a nasty noise. They never let up. Years later they were still at it, it must have been passed down through the generations. So a whale, no sense of humor if it ever lost a calf.
@HondoTrailside
@HondoTrailside Год назад
People could easily kill these things. TNT would be a good method to change their minds, and might be lessor lethal if tossed in the water away from them. Do their skull have more than the 17 inches of bone people have regularly shot through to kill elephants. Just using military calibers, not even "elephant guns" The people who fish for whale species in Canada use elephant guns to put them down. If I was a whale I would attack every Zodiac I saw. Nothing like environmental tourism to ruin the neighbourhood.
@TheAgentAssassin
@TheAgentAssassin Год назад
You know we used to hunt wales 10 times their size before we even had light-bulbs.
@fredrikandersson3885
@fredrikandersson3885 Год назад
@@TheAgentAssassin What does that have to do with anything?
@SailProMarina
@SailProMarina Год назад
Please Pass This Along To Other Vessels ------- Step 1. Flare Gun Shots -- Directly at any that surface -- this usually spooks them out of their playtime mode and they leave. Remember they PLAYING at your expense, and like children they need to be "snapped" out of playtime mode. STEP 2 . pour FUEL of any type into the water. ( diesel , gas or even engine oil ) *** DO NOT IGNITE IT **** Gasoline or Diesel is a huge irritant to their skin and the fumes infect their dorsal hole and they will move along FAST.
@charliesimeon
@charliesimeon Год назад
They're teaching the young how to attack whales... the rudders of sail boats in many ways are similar shape to whale flappers (side fins). And disable the whale in much the same way as disabling a sailboat. The demise, or lack of prevalence, of whales in the region means the training gets done on boats instead. There is another sailing channel called Sailing Thula, where in a recent video you can see them sailing from the Azores to Nth France and crossing what can only be described as a "Whale motorway", or migration route. I'd bet good money that Orca train their young on boats in the Gib to Nth Spain stretch before nipping north to munch on the migrating whales. An adult orca could tear a sailboat to pieces in seconds if it so wanted, so even though its an expensive episode for the boat owners, it's not really a vicious attack. Convoy sailing may well be the way to go in that region, or maybe someone can invent an ultrasound device to lure the pesky chompers away from the boats. Who knows what the solution is...
@fredericcolombier5380
@fredericcolombier5380 Год назад
the only correct answer is only 5 likes, damn humans are really stupid.
@johntchb
@johntchb Год назад
An interesting theory but l doubt it to be correct.
@fredericcolombier5380
@fredericcolombier5380 Год назад
@@johntchb If you could avoid liking yourself like a big ass**ole that would be good. And argue that you have the right answer ! Maybe.
@stevecurran3007
@stevecurran3007 Год назад
Orcas have learned how to eat the catch of long line fishermen off Alaska. The US allows them to use sonic devices attached to lines to repel them. The Government of Spain does not. Most of what I have read says these are young whales having fun. Probably only belonging to one pod.
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn Год назад
You are correct most likely a nice training tool for Orcas.
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 Год назад
Wonder if some bear spray at the blowhole when they surface would deter them (or enrage them and they eat you).?
@Davebohl4
@Davebohl4 Год назад
I think an M 80 or two in the water will get them to move along pretty quickly
@muffdiver4973
@muffdiver4973 Год назад
Exactly what I was thinking.
@aikidoisthebombyeah
@aikidoisthebombyeah Год назад
why didn't you just harpoon one... teach it a lesson...
@russbates493
@russbates493 Год назад
luv it , was thinking the same, it will stop that behavior pretty quick
@edl617
@edl617 Год назад
Until one leaves the water and belly flops on to your Boat
@SailingMarly
@SailingMarly Год назад
I’m not sitting on my boat while a monster eats it. Shut the camera off do what ya gotta do
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 Год назад
This happens everytime this Pod of Orcas watches the film " Free Willy ". It gets the juveniles all worked up.
@easygame7955
@easygame7955 Год назад
When you are dry they are orcas, so cute. When you are wet they are killer whales, reality bites.
@Sailing-alma
@Sailing-alma Год назад
Ich habe gesehen das ihr eine starlink Antenne habt funktioniert die gut?
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 Год назад
Take some kind of underwater sonic device that plays extremely loud sounds at various frequencies then note which one's make the whales leave the area.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist Год назад
Yeah like a shotgun.
@nickwells1588
@nickwells1588 Год назад
If you shot one of them, they'd get the message
@sammylacks4937
@sammylacks4937 Год назад
That may be part of the reason they are attacking boats.
@nickwells1588
@nickwells1588 Год назад
@@sammylacks4937 do you have any evidence that people have been shooting them?
@ShinLeeChan
@ShinLeeChan Год назад
Yeah for sure! They get the message that you want your boat rip apart and be left alone in the waters.
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