Lake Perris: The Making and Destruction of a Trophy Spot Lake

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Episode 38
With the success of the Florida Bass experiment conducted in San Diego beginning in the late 1950s and through the early 1970s, California biologists turned to another bass sub-species for one of their new lakes. This new lake, Lake Perris, would be devoid of cover and have drastic water-level changes over the course of a season, not conducive conditions for rearing largemouth. Because of this, the DFG looked to the Alabama spotted bass to fill a niche.
Spotted bass were known to spawn in deeper waters than their big-mouthed cousin and didn’t need the cover associated with typical bass waters. They also provided great sport to the angler.
In 1973, CADFG started talks with the Alabama Fisheries Department and set up a trade: Florida strain largemouth from California for spotted bass from Lewis Smith Lake, Alabama. By 1974, the lake was stocked with 200 spotted bass from the lake that held the world record. Within five years, this second black bass experiment proved to be on track to set a new world record.
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@kidsguitaracademy 10 месяцев назад

This episode really hit home for me. My dad was there in the late 70's fishing the Spotties. I caught the bass fishing bug as a young teen in 89', but by then we were only pulling largemouth from the lake. My dad, who had taken a hiatus from fishing due to the demands of his job, was puzzled over the fact that the Spotties were gone and assumed that the introduction of the largemouths was the reason. I guess he was mostly right. He would had loved this episode. Unfortunately, he passed away almost exactly one year ago. Even so, I can still hear a faint echo of his voice talking about the "beautiful Spotties of Lake Perris".

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! We're glad it brought back some memories for you! Terry

@user-dd1hs7ur9r 9 месяцев назад

Great episode. I cut my teeth on Perris as a kid fishing and learned a lot from gentlemen like Gil Rowe, Dave Nollar, Woody Woodruff, and Bob Bringhurst. I still have a box of Perris special worms and olive green Westy worms.

@thebigbasspodcast 9 месяцев назад

thanks user-dd! Terry

@Bassgrabber1 6 месяцев назад

Dave Nolar is a legend out here !

@thebigbasspodcast 6 месяцев назад

Yes he is! One of the OGs from the 1970s! Terry

@Bassgrabber1 6 месяцев назад

This is great guys ! Love all the history of my fishing hole !

@thebigbasspodcast 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Bassgrabber! Terry

@kenmccarthyfishing 10 месяцев назад

I can’t believe people don’t know what there State record is,that blows me away.Thank you gentlemen ❤👏👏👏

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Ken, the only defense he has is that it was falling at a pretty fast rate. Still, he should have known himself instead of relying on someone else. Terry

@lroyson 10 месяцев назад

Man, you guys get the details. Great show.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank lroyson! There were more but Ken cut me off! LOL. Terry

@lroyson 10 месяцев назад

🤣

@rickrobinson7032 10 месяцев назад

Another great show boys!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Rick! Terry

@rogerdudra178 7 месяцев назад

Back in 2015 I fished the Musselshell river in south central Montana, the state small mouth record was 6.66 pounds which I vowed to topple. I saw a smallmouth in the river that could have beat the record by a couple pounds but the fish had to die to get the record. Now that I'm 74 I'm glad that fish got to live too. I saw that fish from a distance of a couple feet as it spit out my tiny red fox spinner.

@estebancoronafishing8900 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the awesome history lesson of the record spots Lake Perris use to have.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@socal_outdoors 5 месяцев назад

Awesome show! And love the history of my home lake. I've been fishing Perris since the 90's and only had one night catching a mix of largies and spots.

@benonem 10 месяцев назад

another awesome podcast guys, look forward every week!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Ben! Terry

@johnblaha5692 10 месяцев назад

Interesting episode this week. Keep up the good work, fellas.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you John! Terry

@kevinatwell9781 10 месяцев назад

Great podcast thanks guys!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Kevin! Terry

@DouglasSubbs 10 месяцев назад

Awesome show. And that’s for the single source of state records and world records

@gregc7314 3 месяца назад

Great episode fish Perris all the time. One correction though Southern California is not a desert it's biome is chaparral.

@dariusking2927 10 месяцев назад

Great show guys👍👍 as you may know Terry there is a big controversy over Alabama Spots in Tennessee, North Carolina and so on. As them devastating the fishing and largemouth and smallmouth populations. As living on Kentucky lake I hope these things don’t take over the Tennessee river system and Cumberland river system. You think people would learn to quit moving nonnative fish to other parts of the country. It usually ends up, biting them in the ass 😂

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Darius, are they Kentucky Spots or Alabama Spots they're worried about here? I have heard nothing good about Kentucky Spots and their ability to take over watersheds. Do you have any links where I can read up on this? Terry

@dariusking2927 10 месяцев назад

@@thebigbasspodcast it’s Alabama spots the latest thing I’ve seen about it is on Alex Rudd fishing RU-vid they have a fish biologist on there Alex live in Knoxville there has been other shows about it too if you got time watching Alex‘s show

@dariusking2927 10 месяцев назад

@@thebigbasspodcast the show was on about 3 weeks ago

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Darius, I'll check it out! Thanks man! Terry

@bryanventura157 10 месяцев назад

Wow grate show, 268 views and 46 likes 19 comments come on views hit the likes git it up there. One of the top 3 podcast Boom lets go.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Bryan!! Terry

@fakegucci2244 5 месяцев назад

This is my home lake I think some of the bigger bass in there can be hybrids

@orionhunt6901 10 месяцев назад

Terrys back who was that other guy 😂

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

LOL. Some imposter....

@reb5166 10 месяцев назад

Another piece to the So Cal puzzle. They should have put spots in Diamond Valley.

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

Bassketballs!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

There you go Secretbassrigs!! I like it! Terry

@gcharter97 10 месяцев назад

I believe the biggest limit of spots ever weighed in a tournament was in our club at Bullards 40.01lbs!!! Have you heard of a larger limit weighed in?

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

gcharter, all that Bullards Bar data is hard to find and clarify. You guys kept that place on lockdown for a long time. But, anyway, I have never heard of a bigger limit than 35lbs so a 40lb limit would be the biggest. Terry

@gcharter97 10 месяцев назад

Bullards would make a great show, the record has been broken multiple time in the past 10-15 years and held once by Cody Meyer

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

gcharter, we're going to be moving up the list with Pine Flat and then Bullards. Terry

@bassman4201000 10 месяцев назад

Do a show on spring lake in santa rosa?

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

We’ll get there!

@PeterWFishing 10 месяцев назад

best intro yet no doubt about that 😂

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Peter, don't egg him on!

@PeterWFishing 10 месяцев назад

Hahaha it was partially Terry's embarrassment to be associated with such a fool that made it so entertaining! @@thebigbasspodcast

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

From that intro, I finally figured out which comedic duo Ken and Terry remind me of...The Sicilian and the Giant from the Princess Bride.

@kenduke6631 10 месяцев назад

My name is Inigo Montoya.... -- Ken

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

@@kenduke6631 "Inconceivable!"

@jackack8100 10 месяцев назад

i saw your Casitas story...what do you think of the fact that Casitas is up to 70% full heading into an el nino winter...does it have a chance to come back?

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Jack, well it depends on what you mean by come back? Will the population of bass increase and will the fishing get better? Yes. Will it again produce world-record class fish? I don’t think so. From what I understand they no longer stock trout that are small enough to become a good source for bass and that’s a key ingredient to big bass production.

@chrishampton8842 10 месяцев назад

Does Parris have any spots at all today guys? Thanks for a great podcast again

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

"While all of the other reservoirs where spots have been planted in California remain excellent spotted bass fisheries, Lake Perris is completely devoid of spots. They have not shown up in a Department survey or in an angler’s catch for over 20 years." (From Outdoor News Service, March 28 2020, Mathews)

@reb5166 10 месяцев назад

Stripers took them out.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Chris, I would have to say no. Thank you for the kind words! Terry

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you secretbassrigs! Terry

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Reb, I won't give you my opinion of stripers...... Terry

@garretdeckert1749 10 месяцев назад

The the Florida bluegill took them out, in addition of the largemouth

@davidblake5199 8 месяцев назад

Green is a color of the deep water, and they can easily see it… So they say

@qaze0338 10 месяцев назад

We have been fishing perris since the early 90’s and never caught a spotted bass …sad to say 🙁

@TheirsHopewithJesusChrist_277 10 месяцев назад

Maybe it's over pressured or over fished?

@bryanhead4040 10 месяцев назад

chasing a record and don’t know what number your chasing. Hhmmm 😂😂 Good show as usual !!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Yeah Bryan, pretty amazing...... Terry

@curvinh6289 10 месяцев назад

A 21" fish can be over 7lbs with a 18" girth in my experience. That's largemouth I don't know a thing about spots🤷 Great show as always!!

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, they just look like balls when they get like that. Terry

@curvinh6289 10 месяцев назад

@@thebigbasspodcast the way we like em!

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

@@thebigbasspodcast BASSketballs!!!

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

"...if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

LOL. Yeah, in this case they screwed up a pretty good thing. Terry

@secretbassrigs 10 месяцев назад

@@thebigbasspodcast the oldest son should have known better than to risk it. But of course he should have been taught better. So it's always Dad's fault. 🙄😒

@maxcole3930 6 месяцев назад

There's a lot of spots in Clarks Hill & their even worse in Lake Russell on the Savannah River Chain. Idk why guys put spots in these lakes back in the day? Should have stocked ton of largmouth & or even smallmouth. In past 2 years sense I've lived down here the biggest spot I've seen/caught was only 3.4 I would absolutely 100% rather catch largmouth. Which I why I prefer Santee Cooper lakes , Murray & other smaller lakes in my area. Spots are the last on list of species I want to target or catch. Maybe if I saw some biggins, even decent ones that would change. I haven't seen that. 95% of spots I've seen are 12-14 inches.

@benbunting2491 10 месяцев назад

Yep, there comes a time all pod-casters lose it.............just kidding great show.

@thebigbasspodcast 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Ben! Terry

@sikamoreify 6 месяцев назад

The biggest threat to the future of our fisheries is anglers, nothing less, nothing more. Far too many people with lines in the water are uneducated on sustainability and have zero interest in learning.