Thanks for this review, Lao! The Lamy 2000 was not on my list of pens to get, but I was given the opportunity to try it, and I love it! I have the EF nib and it has a slight architect edge to it. It's so wet and smooth, and the feel of the pen body is great in my hands. I put off trying this for so long because it does look boring, it has no other colours, and it just looks so... robotic. But funny enough, it is for those reasons that I think this pen will stay in my collection indefinitely!
That’s true, because it’s the one robotic simple black pen you have, it’s unique and special in the collection! I’m glad you love your EF! This pen is indeed very comfortable in the hands, which is why I kept it and haven’t sold it off! And I don’t think I will because I’ve grown to like it’s unique look! It’s my one and only LAMY gold nib :) thank you for sharing your thoughts Karyna! 🥰
This pen is definitely on my strong maybe list, though I'm not sure how I'd feel about the hooded nib. I'm also one of those people who almost always deliberately avoids things with massive amounts of hype since I usually have the exact opposite opinion from the crowd. If I do end up falling in love with something with a history of hype, it's only after the biggest wave of hype has died away and I can discover it on its own merits.
I love that! Yes it is such a hyped pen, but rightfully so in many aspects. That doesn't mean other pens you love don't also tick the same boxes ❤️ I like your perspective on enjoying a well loved pen in blissful peace after the rampaging storm of people going after it. XD I am glad i got it though. And always happier that I got it for at least half off the market price!
Thanks for this in-depth look. I did succumb to the Endless discount already with a pre-order and I feel reassured about my choice after watching this. I really enjoy writing with the Studio, so not worried about the metal grip. Thanks!! 😻
Yay! Glad you bought one from Endless. It's the best price all around - and 140 for a new Lamy 2000 is a steal! Thanks for watching and I'm happy to hear you feel even better with your purchase from watching this :)
Thank you for making this video! My pen friends have this love/ the relationship with this pen! But it’s still on my list because of Goulet pens. And it comes in a fine nib so extra points to stay on my list.
xD I like the writing experience of this pen after trying a few inks in it. It's a great writer, I just wished this nib quality was on a colorful pen haha! :D I'd pick it up and use it a lot more. It's a pen that SHOULD be in everyone's collection or at least try it once before selling it.
This remains my desert island pen, mostly because of the writing experience. I’m intrigued at your comments about lack of bounce, which hasn’t been my experience… though it is a muted bounce with the semi-hooded nib. So I guess it makes sense. But this was the first pen where i felt that bounce in a gold nib. It is a different writing experience, though. 🤔 The EF and F are indeed usually very close, and I had one EF ground to a needlepoint for that reason. That one used to sometimes feel a skosh broader than the F with some inks. I think it's very much a "your mileage may vary" situation. As always, thank you for your thoughtful review. You always make me want to talk right back to you! "Yes, I feel the same way except for X, that's not been my experience at all! And Y is an interesting observation…" 😂
YES! That's exactly what I wanted for my review videos - to engage and start conversations about folks differing experiences and similarities! It's a lot of fun and very interesting to hear others' experiences. I think generally it is supposed to be slightly bouncy, but in comparison to the rest of my bouncy hard gold nibs, it is on the stiffer side (like the finer sailors shouldn't be bouncy, but they were, and that surprised me. For Sailors to have that kind of bounce...they have become my standards for those hard gold nibs that might give some bounce). To me, Lamy's tiny hooded nib did not have as much of a bounce, but like you said, it may be due to it being a muted bounce from it being so tiny and hooded! I'll have to feel your Lamys out for sure!
My Lamy 2000 (F) has just arrived 😁 I have to say the quality is exceptional, very nice and comfortable to hold with a very smooth nib..!! I also ordered some new inks so it has Diamine Red Dragon in....I also remembered to rinse the pen as it had blue ink in it from the factory. Like you say it is def an equivalent to a Safari Medium...maybe a hair width thinner but if I had gone for the Medium 2000 it would have definately been too thick for my taste....so the Fine is the sweet spot ❤ Thank you again for your help in my decision as this isn't a cheap purchase, but we got it right 😉 Here's to happy doodling/writing and I hope you have a fantastic 2024 👍👍😀
Yes!!!!! I’m always so very happy when my video and discussion can help someone figure out the nib size that’s perfect for them! It’s always a challenge picking the nib on a first time big purchase pen, so I’m glad this worked out perfectly! Thank you for sharing your progress and adventure with me :) you will enjoy it for many days to come!
I’m not so sure about voiding the warranty. This is the first time I’ve seen that suggested. But even if you don’t take the section completely apart, the grip section does unscrew very easily - just be careful not to lose that clutch ring! Then cleaning is super easy with a blunt syringe or bulb syringe.
Yeah, I didn't want to touch too much into disassembly or warranty as most warranties just want to make sure you use their inks and that the defects are not from your own mishandling. It was EXTREMELY easy, though, from just using the knob to clean the pen out! :) I love how easy it was. The piston is definitely smoother by a ton compared to twsbi and leonardos.
@@KenchanKrafts makes sense. It’s good to be at least aware of the possibility of voiding a warranty. Lamy’s wording is vague, but I have usually heard that they offer generous and excellent support.
ok after seeing this, I can tell that my Lamy 2000 did come wrong out of the box... it needs sooo much pressure to be able to write. It's insane, I might try tuning it myself
Oh yeah, if you’ve tried your pen with waterman Serenity blue (or any other well behaving ink) and it still has that issue then it’s the nib for sure. I thought it was just mediocre when I used a dry ink in it, but no, it was just the ink haha! Sorry to hear yours didn’t come perfect out of the box.
Hello there! I hope you had a great thanksgiving! Frankly, I have a hard time seeing anything in the ink window. That's my only complaint- otherwise I like it a lot more than I thought I would.
I can agree with that, it is very thin, so it can be very difficult to tell or know if there's ink left in there. For ink windows like this, I just turn the pen a few times and if I don't see any small movement inside the tiny window, then I know I'm out of ink haha! So it is stealthy, but also not so easy to read. Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving, too, Lorelei! ♥
Hello Lao, thanks to the 8penQuestions I’m new to your channel 😊 This is a great video, thank you so much! I have also the F nib and thought it’s a bit broad, but I see, yours is similar. Also (it’s difficult for me to explain…) the lines are not like made with a „round tipping material“ but a „square“. And I see that in my writing and also in your video. Didn’t thought the Pilot M is so broad, that was interesting!
Hi MrsAlchemist! So happy to have you here :) Yeah, I think almost all Lamy 2000 Fines are grounded a bit stubbish, so thicker down and thinner cross strokes. Glad you were able to find similarities to assure you your pen is as it should be ^_^ As for the Pilot Custom Medium nib...I do get a lot of different opinions (on my Custom 823 video) and experiences of this nib. Some people say it's a Western Fine, but as you can see from my samples, it is nowhere near a western fine. So I can only think of the ink being the culprit here - a dry ink will make thinner M lines for people, wetter ink makes broader lines. As well as paper - more coated paper = thinner lines. Tomoe River paper is coated but appears to absorb inks pretty well to show a thicker line. Hope you find other videos helpful and enjoyable, too. ^_^ Thanks again for subbing!
@@KenchanKrafts thank you for the warm welcome! You’re of course right with ink and paper being a huge factor. I tried to also „read“ the Twsbi and I have only the Diamond in F and it’s way thinner- but like you said, depends too much on the other 2 factors.
I actually think that the EF nib on my one Lamy 2000 writes finer than the F nib on my other… I just compared them again and it‘s a very slight difference, but noticable. I love them both. And my medium as well, just the broad is a bit too much for everyday use, so it mostly sits in the drawer. ;)
Hmm, interesting. I'm sure there is a small slight difference, I should have indicated that might be the case in the video xD It's just that I remembered the grind was different so it might not be what people expect if they drop down from a Fine to an EF. I remembered you got all 3 in one of your posts!! I'm sorry about that broad. I , too...bench most of my broads because I don't like writing too big haha. I'd love to try the architect-ish grind of the EF someday - maybe when I go to the Chicago pen show!! :D But maybe I would be able to see some samples on your instagram - I believe we follow each other there, yes? XD
@@KenchanKrafts I think I‘m going to make a post on Instagram right now… ;) But of course you are right, the difference is very slight. And I do think the fine nib is the better choice because it writes a lot smoother… but when I want to write very fine, I like picking the EF. I have different inks in all pens, so that influences the writing experience as well… :)
Oh, I did not discuss that after my writing sample, thanks for pointing out that observation. It is true, the Lamy 2000 nibs appear to be more stub like and then the EF is grounded to be more of an architect grind (based on information from Brian at Goulet). So I am happy that I had gone with the Fine, since I don't quite care for architech nibs...but it wouldn't hurt to try! Thanks for sharing your experiences with the M and B nib as well - that's very helpful info!
This review helped me understand the lamy 2000 better since I will be purchasing one soon in fine. What it also helped me out with is my other dilemma! I can’t decide between pilot custom 823 fine or medium nibs. The gap between the 2 is just too much. Medium is too broad and fine needs to be a little thicker like the lamy 2000 nib. Your examples showed me better examples of how they write and I appreciate that, thank you.
Hey Aaron, I'm glad this helped! :) I figured the custom 823 were perfect ones to put here to compare since lots of people rave about the 823, so knowing their line widths compared to other popular pens is very crucial! XD I hope you enjoy your Lamy 2000 in Fine! It's a beautiful smooth writer! :) Thanks for watching!
@@KenchanKrafts would you say the custom 823 in fine writes smooth similar to the medium nib? I don’t want to regret buying the fine but the medium looks like a ton of ink. I wish the had a medium fine for the custom 823
@@07SAtown the custom 823 Fine is just as smooth as the medium in terms of it gliding smoothly through the page. The medium will inevitably feel smoother just because there is more tipping material on the nib, but the fine isn’t scratchy or toothy by any means. You can feel the smoothness of the Fine nib in my Nibs Feedback shorts :) ru-vid.comC04URVGOusA?si=UiC1PpCFWHJhD0I2 Also, you can get the FineMedium by buying it from Japan! If you want to go that route!
@@KenchanKrafts great short, I liked the camera angle also. Helped me some more understanding how the fine nib writes. Where do you recommend getting the fine medium nib from? And I read mixed answers about changing the nib on the 823. Have you changed the nib on it before?
@@07SAtown Changing the nib will void your warranty and by changing the nib, you're releasing the tight vacuum that the pen was engineered well for. If you do not reassemble or ensure the pen is airtight, the vacuum mechanism may not work as well as before. There's an off chance you can crack parts as you're changing the nibs, too. I have not changed my nibs and am quite afraid to do so for lack of experience, but I'm sure it's not too terribly difficult. I would only change the nib after the warranty is over since anything done to the pen won't be covered anyways. As for the Soft Fine Medium nib 823, I had a friend who purchased it, I will ask him where he got it, but Pensachi.com had them in the past.
Great review as always. Funny I just ordered an Estie Raven Piston (waiting on it to arrive), but wondering if I made a mistake and should have picked up this LAMY instead. Do you have any experience with the Raven? 🐦⬛ Curious how the two would compare.
Thank you!! ♥ I don't have any experience with the Raven, but I think it probably has a really unique and lovely matte texture to it that is very different from the makralon on this Lamy 2k. If you like black pens, I think the Lamy 2k is a staple pen to carry in your collection - a great EDC and a very fine writer - I thought makralon meant a heavier metal, but this pen is quite light but feels substantial at the same time. I think the lamy's writing experience is better than a jowo experience, at least. It's not a pen that will go out of production any time soon, so you can always opt for it later on :)
@@KenchanKrafts thanks for the excellent advice and feedback. I really wish there were an all blacked out version of the lamy2K! Otherwise I would have jumped!
Great review.....I'm inbetween a F or M nib. Would the 2000 Fine be similar to a Safari Medium..? Everybody seems to agree the 2000 is wet and writes wider 🤔
Hi moonlight! Thanks for watching and your question. I have 3 lamy al star mediums and all three are slightly different in terms of thickness and wetness. I just dip tested all 3 lamy al star mediums and they are slightly less thick than my lamy 2k Fine. With that, I would say lamy 2k Fine is definitely about an Al-Star medium! My all star nibs are all scratchy in comparison to the 2k lolol!! Such a difference! :)
I don’t have the Lamy 2000…. but talking about boring black pens, I really love my black matte Lamy Safari… black body, black clip and black nib… I find it very stylish, and is livened up right now with Diamine Werewolf’s Blood ink….. a limited edition they did with a store in Oxford.
OMG jean, that name is so cool!! So I suppose werewolf blood must be black XD such a cool ink I’d love to see a writing sample with it if you can sends me one :) and yeah it’s a simple basic black pen that packs a huge punch of good writing! XD I am happy I have one!
Hey there! The notebook in this video is the Hobonichi A5 Techo from 2023 with original Tomoe River paper! My other reviews I’ve used the hobonichi notebook, which is also TR paper.
