Great explanation. It’s worth pointing out that Toyota’s limit is now 80kg for the 2023 Prado roof. By the time I put a Rhino platform, Oztent and awning on the roof, there isn’t much capacity left for anything else.
You delve into your subject matter thoroughly,I find every video interesting and informative,I also have a 200 series and tow a caravan, only new to it at this stage however, so any and all information from a knowledgeable source appreciated.well done again.
Thank you very much. I try and get past the opinions and get straight to facts. I appreciate the comments and am glad that these videos can provide some benefit to the viewers. Again, thanks and I hope you enjoy the future videos. Nathan.
Super informative and I often have to put videos like this on 1.5x to get through them but no mucking around here! Thanks for your clear and concise delivery. Eyeing off these and front runner.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. I try and keep my videos as straight to the point and concise as possible. I hope you find a good solution for your needs. Cheers, Nathan.
G’day Nathan. Excellent video and explanation of ALL necessary details to know. That’s what we like on your work, don’t have to ask twice. I am sold on the Rhino system your size for my 200series. Not bought yet for simple reasons. A. Current Garage free door height. B. What I need to put on the roof while leaving the caravan behind on excursion trips with 2 people only? To find out learning by doing. The only thing you left out to describe is the washing/cleaning of the roof under the rack. Another subject I would be interested in and could not find yet is if someone make a slide for under the rack to carry thin solar panels as a pull out version. Sure for No sunroof version 200 series only. Cheers
Thanks Holger. Again, appreciate the on-going support and the comments. Your reasons for not purchasing yet are understandable. I am lucky, although only just this roof rack does fit into my garage, but this will be an issue for many people. Your reasoning about whether or not you actually need it for your setup is one that is so overlooked these days. People just buy modifications for the point of buying them, but it's good to see you're making that decision based on your personal needs. In regards to washing side of things, I have got a plan in the future to do a washing/car protection video series in the future (just waiting for a dirty trip!), however I can say that the roof rack has made it difficult, but not impossible. I have seen a couple of companies that make slide to mount underneath the Rhino rack, however I can't be sure as to whether they are bolt on or not. I personally choose to mount of top over a sliding under slide panel for a couple of reasons. A. Mounting at the front will prevent the sunroof from operating B. Mounting at the rear - the sliding mechanism would interfere with the opening of the rear tail gate. A sliding solar panel would be a great idea though, just a little more work involved. Thanks again, Nathan.
Another well informed episode mate, I’m using the same system on mine apart from I chose Lightforce ROK 20’s around all 4 corners. Certainly a great choice in roof rack in my opinion 👌🏽
Nathan I got a Rhino ladder and mounts on rack for ladder to hook onto. It folds up to 1m and has a weight rating of 150kg. It's great on sand also. Just thought it's worth mentioning 👌
I love your family tent setup, FYI - your roof will no doubt be overloaded when talking Rhino Racks specs, I too have the Pioneer rack and deeply regret it after I found out their cheeky fine print that virtually says "off sealed roads their load rating is about 30kg" which is pathetic, considering your roof can do 150kg, its more just to keep in mind that even Rhino Rack don't trust their system to hold much weight.
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed the video. I'd be interested to see the fine print you mention here. All the data I could find suggested a percentage of total rating for an 'off-road' rating. I've worked this out to be a fair bit more that 30kg, but happy to stand corrected. Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz been a long time since i looked and it may be more. I just remember it was a heap less, anyways whats more important is your vehicles rating
This is very informed. Thank you. some questions: Did you contemplate a smaller rack to avoid covering the sunroof, do you get much noise, did you contemplate an alternative vendor ARB etc?
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. So yes, did consider the smaller rack, however I prefer the extra storage/working space on the rack and this benefit outweighs keeping the view from the sunroof. The sunroof still opens and angles as per normal, so it's functionality isn't inhibited as such. Further, when I purchased this the ARB base rack hadn't been released yet, but if I was buying now it would be considered. Cheers, Nathan.
Hmm, it definitely pays to know some of the more 'boring' facts sometimes. Saying this, the 200 series has very different mounts when compared to some of the dual cab ute models.
Not overly happy with Rhino rack I just put on my Ranger I think it comes to far forward and if it was 300mm shorter the wind noise would be improved dramatically. The wind noise at the moment is over the top loud and I have used many types of racks but always had them set back from the angle of the windscreen. There is a broblem with noise because Rhino make a wind foil for the rack at yet another considerable outlay of cash. Must mention that other than the noise I am very happy with the rack.
Interesting to hear that. I'm going to assume that Rhino Rack have probably tried the maximise the space and rack size on the dual cab ute, therefore bringing the front of the rack further forward. That sure is a frustrating and annoying regarding potentially having to spend more money on more products. Is this rack the new design they have? I believe their new platform system has a angled front edge, with the intent to keep wind noise down. Thanks for sharing your experience, good to hear all opinions. Cheers, Nathan.
Coming back from the a trip I saw a 200 series towing a caravan and they both flipped upside down. The roof on the 200 didn’t budge and everyone was safe. After seeing the 200 have the weight of the car on he roof i haven’t been to worried about the roof weight any more
Top vid Nathan. I have the same system on my 200 for the same reasons as you. You really have to do your sums to avoid damage to the vehicle and stay legal. Cracked me up at the end. Did you get down off the roof without breaking something? Hahaha, 👍👍
Thanks mate. Yeah, when you start crunching the numbers it can get a bit confusing, but also surprising how little some popular Australian 4WD's can actually load up. Haha, yeah... I'm as nimble and agile as an elephant haha. No broken parts though luckily... Thanks mate
Nice vid. I have e same set up however I should have bought the tradie rack because tying down straps using the backbone is an absolute nightmare and you have spend a fortune for additional tie down points.
Cheers mate. Yeah, I guess if you're frequently tying things down, especially if they are mounted differently each time I guess it can be frustrating. In my circumstances, I use the same accessories in the same place each time. Now that I've got it sorted it only take a few minutes with a set number of eyelets. Thanks again, Nathan.
XploringOz Yep totally understand why you’re happy. Unfortunately I’m always tying down different items so repetition isn’t my friend. Perhaps someone out there would like to swap platforms... ;).
200-500 Kg to be SUPPORTED properly you are look towards a full exoskeleton roll cage with rack build on the top something rated for 200kg on road realistically has has a weight limit between 50-100kg though i wouldn't go much above 50-75kg.. because water channels aren't designed to be anchor points for the roof racks.. the only way i would anchor to the to a roof with the above roof rack or any other roof rack for that matter is gut the roof lining a weld in 1-2 inch thick metal and dynabolt the fucker to the roof.. though my opinion the exoskeleton is a better option as affixes to at 8-10 points on the vehicle at the bull bar,, engine side guard foot well/rock slide rear leg is 1 welded piece whether the rear attaches under the wheel well or off the rear end on the rear bumper pending what you do with your rear windows if you are into boating without a trailer on a 8-9 foot tinnie which bolts to the rack for transport
For sure, there are definitely some good points when considering loading that much weight onto a roof. Luckily I'm never in that sort of weight range and this is not only a much simpler and easier system to install, but adequate for my needs at the moment 👍
@@XploringOz problem is even at a 250kg off road opposed to on road rating of 500kg you are at 125-250 kg, though looking at the crap the that has plagued the 4x4 accessory market shit made of thin metal 25-75 kg is about the max weight it is rated for, this is a test on the rack if you can bend it if you put a slat on a brick or 2 and you can physically bend it by walking on it it tells you the weight it can carry, which is vastly different the the bs you might be fed by the manufacturer of said product if you want to correctly carry load including a tinnie this would be the only way to it both structurally and legally... otherwise you ripping out the head liner and welding support brackets to dyno bolt the expensive cheap arse rack on the roof's rain channel that was never designed to hold a rack to the roof in the 1st place...
Thanks mate. Appreciate that feedback 👍 so unfortunately the supplier I got the panel from has reported it is out of stock. It has been like this for a little while. I’m assuming COVID has something to do with this.
i have the pioneer rack on my prado 150. i would never carry a rooftop tent on it. A 270 degree awning,, oztent and gas bottle is pretty much the limit i feel safe with. Max traxx and shovel will be good as well. if i didnt get that rack so cheap and not nowing the weight issues i would of got the ARB base rack or wedgetail
For sure, I think some people forget about how much weight is up there, especially in off-road situations. I haven’t done much research on the ARB base rack, what sort of weight ratings are they claiming?
@@XploringOz arb claim as per roof spec of the prado. The difference is that it is all welded and not riverted like the rhino. The wedge tail is the same. Only best part of that one it is Australian made
Hey mate, so I just use 4 50cm buckle straps. These strap from the handle to 4 eyelets that attach to the roof rack and are made by Rhino Rack. This system has been working for about 5 years and I've never had an issue. Cheers, Nathan.
Hi Nathan, thank you for a very informative review once again. What concerns me with the standard 200 series is that it doesn’t appear to have a very good payload all up, by the time you fuel up, chuck in the camping gear, water, family, roof rack maybe solar panel and awning the vehicle it’s self would be over weight.
For sure, it is a little disappointing how limited the GVM is. If you’ve watched my video on my Landcruiser weights, there’s a testament to how quickly they fill up! 😱 Cheers, Nathan.
Hey mate, you can get a shorter version of this rack - www.rhinorack.com/en-au/products/roof/roof-racks/pioneer-platform/pioneer-platform-1528mm-x-1236mm-with-backbone_jb1064 This would allow for the sunroof to be visible. Keep in mind the sunroof still retains full functionality with all the options, it would just be covered with the larger units.
Question about your ROK light setup. How did you install the lights at the back..? Did you screw them into the underbody above each wheel.? I’m trying to install them myself and need some advice on it. Ta
Hi mate, so yes, all the interior panels were removed from the interior of the vehicle. The bolts and the wiring were bolted straight through the metal wheel arch and secured from inside the vehicle. This also protects the wiring from being exposed in the wheel arch. It’s a fair bit of work, but will last the time if installed correctly 👍 I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Nathan.
Cheers mate. So I have a detachable long handled shovel that comes in a small bag and is stored in side the car, on the driver's side of the fridge in the rear cargo area.
This is a long term tourer for our family. Initially we plan on travelling around Australia in 2022/2023 and then we plan to keep the vehicle past this for future trips.
Hey mate, I currently have the tradesmen roof rack on my 200. I like the rack but I have decided to look at the Rino rack design that I think would suit me better. Just mate what dimensions is your rack because I think they come in 1200 wide and 1400 wide.
They are great systems mate 👍 This is the full length narrow model, 1236mm I believe. I do mention it briefly towards the start of the video Cheers, Nathan
Thanks for sharing. No offence, the information given is great 👍; although I found the speed of your speech is too fast for me (50 plus age). I think it will more relaxing to watch and listen, just speak a bit slower. Keep the good work!
Cheers mate, no offence taken. I encourage constructive criticism, it's the only way for us to learn and improve. I will keep this in mind in the future. Appreciate it mate. Cheers, Nathan.