Okay now she is just simply sitting on her booty not trying to get herself together she is one of those who take advantage of the program just not doing nothing
@@user-pt9dy2rd7m Very familiar with Section 8. She should have gotten a trade or something by now, or used the program to buy a house. It's not meant to be a lifelong assistance program.
Twenty years. Now you know why there's no incentive to get a better job. Even during the last two years nationwide there's a labor shortage. Sec. 8 discourages a recipient to get a better job. At some point you fail its income test. Not surprised. Simply contributes to generational reliance. This was never the intention of Johnson's Great Society. He intended these programs as a lift up. Not a permanent piggyback.
THAT HEFFA BEEN ON SEC 8 FOR 20 YEARS... NOW AINT NO DAMN WAY SHE AINT SAVED ENOUGH TO PAY MARKET RATE RENT BY NOW...THIS IS 1 OF THE ONES THAT NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE ON SEC 8!!!
@@lesriley2062 Disable person needs to be tokens care of by the State. senior citizens normally have a home paid for. and if they don't they can go live in them senior apartments for ages 55 or older and they are nice apartments. I think all disable people and seniors should get 1000 dollars a month in food stamps when they retire. Disable people should get them regardless
@#WhiteLivesDon'tMatter # why should she do anything when us taxpayers are doing it for her . its time to cut all this free bullshit out . or at least crack down too much abuse to the system .
It’s not a right it’s a privilege I’m a landlord depends on how I feel if I want to accept the voucher or not 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ Sec8 also wants your to do so much and stop paying rent for petty shit like transition strip missing doesn’t pass inspection wtf
A landlord can't judge a person when they don't know them. So if this is going to be a huge legally accepted judge festival why can't we just give everyone free housing?
You're telling me that section 8 will pay $1300 for a 1 bed room but since a 1 bedroom is$1500 this lady cannot come up with $200 of her own money to make up the difference ?? Sorry I don't feel sorry for her!! MOVE
That's why there should be time limits to Sec. 8. Ten years max for Pete's sake. Last three years there's been a labor shortage nationwide & this lady can't land a decent job. Just piggybacking on taxpayer's labor.
@@helena3631 you are right but kind wrong because I had a section 8 tenant and her portion was $25 and the check she wrote me bounced!! They don't wanna work
@cobainzlady and want do you consider elderly,if your able bodied,even if you have to work two jobs,do it i know people in their early 60 that work two jobs
No! My sister 45 years! Bitch still feels entitled but the Federal Government created those monsters and allowed them to breed more monsters and keeping them fat, fine and healthy at that!
I agree some section 8 voucher holders have made it bad for others but in their defense the SLUM LORDS can't get by with being a SLUM LORD with section 8 that's one of many reason they don't want to accept section 8.
I know just how she feels. I want to buy a new $50,000.00 pickup truck and all I have is $1,000.00 and no dealer will sell me a new truck for $1,000.00.
Why do you think it's ok to just live on section 8 for 20 plus years then whine because working class people get nice homes? What is wrong with people?
Because most people who are on S/8 through no fault of their own have problems enough without hearing how the last S/8 tenant(s) you rented to. That you would prefer to have nothing but employed tenants has no impact on the fact that they're stuck in a wheelchair and/or need a service dog.
But that's not the next S/8 tenant's problem. The legitimately disabled person can't be bothered with the fact that you had to deal with dopers or bums....Some people are BORN with disabilities, some persons are subsequently injured.
My apartment complex started taking section 8 about 2 years ago. Before then it was quiet and clean. Now, there are always police here over domestic violence, drug busts, the pot smell is so strong it comes into your apartment, music so loud it shakes the whole building, garbage all over the parking lot where they just throw down fsst food bags out of their cars, burglaries, you can't leave anything on your patio or it will get stolen, and my neighbors sell pot so there is a constant flow of people.
I rented to section 8 once and never again. My tennents left my place dirty and flea infested. It was so bad you could not walk into the home. Took me weeks to treat it. I spent a lot of time and money fixing the house up. Sad to turn away families that really need a home. In the end, I need money to make a living too.
I know that feeling as well. We always toss away the apps of prospective tenants that are on Section 8, and just make up some excuse to tell them. It's just that the few bad apples completely ruined the bunch... completely sad, there are some people out there that really need the help and housing, but you got these generational welfare slugs screwing things up for others... Anyways, like I .Always. Fucking. Hear. All. The. Damn. Time. "It is what it is"
I owned a couple of duplexes in south Florida years ago, and I stopped doing it, too. I no longer renewed leases with Section 8, mainly because these people were filthy pigs, and they kept breaking appliances, and damaging the place, along with bringing cockroaches. The city and county was also jerking me around for nickel and dime crap that the tenants were responsible for, and they refused to mail the checks, so I had to pick them up every month. After that bs, I had enough and told them I was done with them!
Alot bring bed bugs,I mean property be looking like you never remodeled,alot the tenants and kids don't value the property they say oh you prejudice yes I am when I own...
Completely reasonable. My childhood town was destroyed by reckless section 8 tenants participating in gangs, the drug trade, and burglary. You can't walk through there anymore without hearing gangster rap blasting and people screaming mother-f this, mother-f that, and the n-word everywhere. There's always fighting in the streets and murders committed for the dumbest reasons. Before section 8, that was never an issue.
@@chulabella9196 Ok, but that is just YOU. And good for you for doing well. But section 8 does a horrible job protecting landlords and holding bad tenants accountable for the damage they do to the house and the neighborhood. They don't pay landlords jack when their property is trashed or robbed, they don't do thorough screenings for tenants, and they refuse to acknowledge how they ruined clean, polite neighborhoods by inviting low-class scum to destroy once beautiful properties
Section 8 for 20 years? Wow!! I honestly know that section 8 is a great help, but I've always considered this to be something that should be a time limited service, much like the way welfare is these days. Families who get welfare are asked to work on a welfare to work program, so that folks can take advantage of funds to go to school to get a trade, a degree, and then a job that will allow them to become self-sufficient and get off welfare. This needs to be the same with section 8. It needs to be a time limited program, where recipients agree to a Housing assistance program to ownership. Getting people to move up in their education, work, forced to save for about 5-10 years and have the ability to get into a first-time home buyers situation. However, the caveat would mean not having the ability or permission to sell their home for 15 years. THAT IS HOW POLICY SHOULD WORK. 20 years of section 8 is ridiculous.
Section 8 or similar programs place burdens on landlords by lack of tenant accountability, inconsistent housing standards and unhelpful staff. Since tenants do not have guidelines that are enforced, problems will escalate with property destruction. unauthorized "guests" and tenant entitlement. Some of these tenants lack basic life skills to maintain their living space and need to be educated. If the government wants housing made available, they need to provide education for tenants, enforcement of tenant responsibilities and inspections for tenant infractions.
there are way too many sick in the head criminals who are landlords that purposely rent out severe health hazard apt to poor adn disabled people for many years and many low life criminals who are judges allow this to happen this is an extremely bad problem in usa and has been for many years judges who allow the poor to be victimized are criminals period there is no excuse
@@glorymanheretosleep only a moron would beleive this bs majority of landlrods are sick in the head animals who victimize the poor in many ways and the sick in the head lwo life judges let them get away with it
I was on section 8 for atleast 7 years as a parent of 1. I was grateful for the program, I used it to get a few steps ahead. I am now on my way to homeownership. Section 8 for me was a hand up not a hand out. I pulled myself outta debt and wanted to do better for myself and child.
I have a question if u dont mind.. I wanna start a small business like press on nails.. However, I am scared to start if it will affect my HUD and other benefits.. What should I do? I just dont wanna ruin my great benefits with small business .. Thanks
My daughter was a single divorced mother and could not get no help they told he she made to much money. She end up living with us because she had no child support and had to pay rent, buy food she did not get no foodstamps and pay child care.
20 years on section 8. OMG😡 Housing and utilities always costed 75% of my net working and retirement income. I use the 25% for saving, travel, insurance, education, and helping non beggars from my limited excess. I stayed a virgin, married at 27, and had our only daughter 10 years later at 37. I was able to travel the world on vacation, and raise our daughter as a widow, since her birth.
If you want your property trashed and deal will Gov. inspectors that don’t know any thing about house construction then rent to a section 8 person.
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What landlord would be crazy enough to rent out to section 8 and risk their property asset to a person who will inevitably trash it and destroy the property?
@ms.justice KITCHEN - If Section 8 tenants are better then why are more and more landlords abandoning the program? Because people who get their shit for free don't appreciate the things that other people EARN.
Wow a lot of ignorance in the comments. I have section 8. I am a single working mom. I work full time as a stylist. I waited years on the list and was happy when it came up on the list. For me it means not having to have a roommate or a man. Independence. Affordable rent is all it is. My rent is $995 i pay $567 each month and section 8 covers the rest. I keep my place spotless . I work, i pay taxes. Been with my landlord 8 years (2 on section 8). I was a good tenant before and still a good tenant now 🤷♀️one income is hard to live on. You can find PLENTY of tenant horror stories from people without section 8 as well 😂 so lets be real.
Yet, if your section 8 housing included a program where you would require saving for a house to own, would you do that? If it included being able to use a first time home buyers incentive to getting you to own, wouldn't that be better than renting under voucher for 20 years? When Clinton reformed welfare in the 1990s, he made it time limited. He created the welfare to work program, where recipients were given between 5-7 years of monetary assistance and a chance to get a college degree or a trade. Then once employed, reduction of welfare followed. It encourages folks to work.
20 years she was on Section 8? There should be a limit that people can be on government assistance. In 20 years, she could've earned a PhD or established a business. Pure Laziness!!
Section 8 may be necessary for some, especially the truly disabled but the fact of the matter is others who work hard and are barely on the brink financially yet don't qualify for section 8 or HUD are harmed because it causes rents to rise artificially for everyone else and those lower waged hard workers are left paying higher rents than they would otherwise.
Landlords shouldn't have to rent their property to someone they don't want as a tenant. Key words it's the landowners property not Huds. Hud should not be allowed to tell people who they have to rent too.
She don't look disabled to me....so why has she been on section 8 for 20 years....????? She needs to get a job and pay her own bills....just like everyone else.
Traci Vela ....here’s the kicker she can pass the section 8 voucher down to her kids so the enabling continues...I think it should only be a 5 year program after that your on your own, how long do it take to get on your feet
Everyone else don't pay their own bills. If that's so she wouldn't need section 8. And when you pay a portion, it goes according to your income and not fill rent. She is low income.
My cousin is disabled and has struggled to find housing on section 8 in Calif. She is NOT lazy struggles with a mental disability to affect daily functioning. Please dont lump everyone in the same category
So HUD needs landlords to be reasonable in rent? Will HUD be reasonable with landlords and help repair damaged units from neglectful and abusive tenants? No, then they need to protect their property and investment with rents that will cover damages.
People like me who is told no always filing serious complaints against the country all I ask for is segeration and I get a no I don't want section 8 😡 better yet keep filing serious complaints against the country about the terrisom acts the country keep accusing me of from 1976 it's like 50 complaints against the country already it like 300 complaints against the country about this situation
Section 8 messes up areas. Due to the fact that most people on section 8 are not going to take care of their place to live because it's really not theirs. I have seen a lot of sec 8 properties in my city and they are ALL fucked up. Some use to be nice but after time they turn to shit because people do not take care of their area.
God after twenty years help yourself I am senior maryland we have pay full price twenty years is enough don't u think tax payers think few years get on your feet help yourself
And now Denver will FORCE property owners to take Section 8. In 2 years, those property owners will get tired of the Section 8 BS and will sell their properties in Denver to buy rental investments in the suburbs. Then watch everyone whine about how many less rentals there are. But thank you Denver, because my rental property is already in the suburb, and now the rental value will go up because of this ill conceived law.
You can't force them to accept anyone as a tenant. They can't outright deny them without discriminating, but they can just tell them "the rental has been filled, sorry"
Public assistance housing should be a pain in the ass by design. That means a barebones apartment with only the essentials to make it habitable. Central heat and a/c, reliable plumbing, a range to cook and bake, and a fridge. If they still make the kind you have to defrost yourself, use that. As for a dishwasher, Section 8ers can use the two they already have, their right hand, and left hand. No Wi-Fi hotspots, no provisions for cable or dish. And Section 8 should be TEMPORARY!!! Not a lifestyle!! No more than 18 months max!!! Taxpayers should not have to carry any able bodied person from cradle to grave!!!
I’m not on section 8, but dang that’s harsh! I’m low income, but even my apartment has an automatic dishwasher, in unit laundry, and AC (spend a summer where I live and you’ll appreciate the necessity of having one). I don’t own them, but rather my landlord does.
2:22 The "housing providers" have invested their $$ into these units and they should be able to extract the maximum rent that the market will bear. They're paying the maintenance, the taxes, the insurance etc.
Believe this or not, if you ever put that in writing “never rent to section 8” Section 8 (people on it can sue you). I know a couple of people who rented to section 8 and their properties were destroyed Low income, in some cases bring down the community. When it comes to tenants, Choose wisely
HOnestly I cannot fault anyone who does not want a section 8 tenant. If I ever become a landlord, I won't accept it either because of the risks. I think the only people who should accept section 8 is well established landlords who are also handymen/carpenters have already made/ saved a bunch of money who can deal with the repairs or the skills to do them themselves. Many new landlords who are just getting started cannot take a chance on a tenant who will possibily cause extensive damage to the home...Most would rather not get rent vs guaranteed rent with significant damage.
Do not profile. That isn't right there is plenty os good voucher holders such as my self. I have perfect credit score and can't even get an apartment just because I have a voucher. Also it is ILLEGAL IN SOME STATES TO DENY PEOPLE JUDT BECAUSE THRY HAVE A VOUCHER.
@@fucklife1 It is unfortunate but you are a part of a demographic where the majority is known to tear up stuff and cause problems. It is really unfortunate, but people have to group you together because there is no way to differentiate who is who. Trust me, I am obviously black and get grouped too. It is what it is. But like I said the only landlords who should take a chance are the ones who are financially stable (without rent) and those who are capable of fixing the repairs themselves. A new landlord starting out should not because it could ruin him if they ruin the property and he has no financial means to fix it.
THESE HOS MAKE ......A LIFETIME OF WELFARE!!! I CANNOT FEEL SORRY FOR ANY OF THEM.....THEY NEVER TRY TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES!!! THEY ARE...IGNORANT......STOP GETTING KNOCKED UP!!! WORK...OR YOU DO NOT EAT!!!
I own several properties throughout the country. I used to rent to section 8 tenants but learned very quickly from that mistake. These people are free loaders and have a general DISREGARD for your property. I rather let a place sit for month or years then rent to someone vindictive, who will run it down or flat out destroy it !
Girl 20 years!!!👀 She needed to do something along time ago and she shouldn’t be on section 8 anymore. No MAS!!!! At the rate she’s going, she’ll retire still on section 8.
Sometimes Section 8 awards vouchers to families who lost their homes in wild fires, tornadoes. Sometimes Section 8 vouchers go to people who are recently widowed. Sometimes the holder of these vouchers has been a good tenant all their lives, always paid their rent on time and left the property in perfect condition and received a reimbursement deposit in full. Normally I wouldn't care about bad mouthing comments but I ask all of you to consider your words carefully . Thank you.
but the good tenants will now get thrown in with the bad by landlords and have a hard time getting places, ,through no fault of their own,landlords are like people who walk into stores or schools etc and shoot anyone, just for no justified reason,their blood thirsty with greed, and misplaced vengeance,
You make my point. The few bad apples ruin it for everyone. Prob is those bad apples cost an average of $5,000-$10,000 in damages--inside & outside the home w/appliances damaged or stolen.
@@cherimerchant6279 Landlords want to keep good tenants. Otherwise, what's the use of getting into the rental business if they avoid both bad and good tenants? Think again.
If sec 8 was responsible for damages cause by people on their program it would be accepted more. They need to change the rules on those on the program. Like 1 car working tents no cell phone only land line take care of lawn pay all utilities.
There are grave cultural and behavioral shortcomings typical with Section 8 recipients. Such as ghetto culture and too many children to take care of, even if one, as well as more of course.
Poor Lisa. She's having a hard time. She cannot find a free house. She's flabbergasted that her city has changed with the passing of time. She feels that she has seniority in the free house game. Well Lisa, I pay $1200. In rent. Nobody helps me. I am always 30 days from being homeless. I think about every time I am short on rent. Guess what Lisa?, you are having are having trouble getting free housing, but I'm having a WORSE time paying. As we are all pushed to the margins with rent increasing and wages stagnant, it becomes very difficult for the working poor and struggling middle class to sympathize with these people and their "sad" situations. Sympathy can be found in the dictionary in between the words "shit" and "syphilis".
Victor O'Rourke I sympathize with you, not the welfare leach. I’m glad you have a roof over your head.. and I’m sorry you are one paycheck from going under.
If Denver is too expensive perhaps she should move next door to Lakewood. When I vacationed in Colorado I didn't want to pay those high prices for hotel rooms in Denver. So instead I stayed in Lakewood along this street that was lined with motels. Denver Public Transit has a bus that runs between the two cities almost twenty-four hours. I had complete access to Denver without burning a hole in my pocket because I stayed in Lakewood.
I never took section 8.I was on food stamps because I needed help buying food for myself and mother.When I found a job I came off of it because I did not want to be a mooch like other people.
Drago Musevini exactly! I did the same thing! I never had Section 8. I had food stamps for a little while and that was it. I went to school and leveled up. She plays too much!
I did the same thing. I was on food stamps for a couple of months. When I got a job, I went down to the office and told them I have a job, instead of just letting it "run out" like other people wanted me to do.
Numerous studies have shown that tenants of comparable income who are NOT on Section 8 take better care of the property, violate lease terms less often, and generate fewer police calls to the residence. No responsible landlord would ever accept Section 8.
Why are you laughing? If that what takes for her to survive then so be it. Not all section 8 or govt receipts are trashy or uneducated, I am 50 years old due to my health and because I am hearing impaired i have to do what I have to do. This is my first time living un low income apt and yes just receiving section 8. My home is always clean and neat. Nothing was giving to me off of platter. Despite of my hearing as deaf woman, I struggled and raised my son until he was old enough to take care of himself and when my health started take its turn. If I need help I didn't mind asking. Some of the same people who critisize others that's in glass houses, Those homes are either broken into, or burned down so be careful who you make fun of God is always watching
If an individual cannot afford to live in a particular area, perhaps the city could save money by assisting with relocation to an area of the country with cheaper housing. The Federal and State governments charge homeowners yearly taxes for the privilege of owning a home...let them use those funds to build cheap housing. The government has basically created this problem by removing personal responsibility and subsidizing illegitimate births. There is no excuse for someone who is able bodied to be receiving section 8 for 20 years.
She can not find a home in the neighborhood she wants, but i would bet she could find one in another section. She said they come over here, and now we are homeless, we've been here all of our lives!. She wants a high rent place, at section eight prices. Funny how none of these folks blame the poor records of folks before them? It's the bad attitudes is the reasons she can not find a place.
I wish I could get help with living expenses; I can't so I hobble to work in pain everyday. The older people that I know have utilized these programs appreciated the help and were very responsible. I can see some not all young adults being a problem
When a section 8 moves from one place to another they need to bring a letter from their previous landlord stating they are a good renter/tennant to give to the new landlord. No good letter, no rental period. It is clear section 8 housing is not working. 20 yrs, WTF. Section 8 people need to be educated, not the landlord. Section 8 people need to be drug tested also.
Who's on section 8 for 20 years? It should be temporary, people are taking advantage of this program. Landlords aren't turning away the vouchers, they're turning away the mentality.
The promise people rely on the government too much and too long 20 years on the government assistance that's too long but twenty years she can been putting back money I'm case of an accident like this
Who would you want to rent to section 8 recipients? What’s the benefit to renting to section 8 over non section 8... she’s been on section 8 for 20 years enough said !!!!
I DON'T WORK I'M 39 AND HAVE MY OWN APRATMENT I HAVE LOW INCOME HOUSING SO I'D KEEP MY MOUTH QUIET IF I WERE YOU AND BE THANKFUL INSTEAD OF PICKING ON PEOPLE!!!
Peter Northrup I don’t understand it. Meanwhile we are out here busting our butts to have the government put money into their account to feed and house another family but we can’t afford to put our kids through college! Man if I had say on where my tax money has gone for the last 20 years my husband and I would have enough money saved for our children to attend college for the next ten years.
in the state i live. Landlords was pulling scams on people that was on Section 8 they had a lawyer serving people on section 8 a 90 notice to move saying the landlord was no longer going to except their section 8. causing a lot of people to become homeless . some they made move to other units to get more money from section 8. some went to lawyers and good they did because they found out the notice was being given out all over town by landlords and it was against the law and it was from the same attorney. the landlords was busted . and most of the tenants was able to stay in their units.
So what? I can't find a place and I'm not section 8. They build for young professionals who have the common sense to not have kids until ready so the apartments are not going to look like a warhorse after like so many sec-8 people who don't care about your stuff let their kids do. I would not rent to people on sect-8 with kids! But there is no affordable housing being put up and if cities think that will work then go have you new San Fransisco if you like with tenants living in those nice $4000 a month apartments and a line of tents outside as the view wit human waste on the streets.
20 years. There should be a cut off for some people. It's understandable for disabled citizens needing the assistance but able bodied people who have not bettered their situation in 20 years is difficult to understand
a female with 2 kids can "earn" 60k tax-free per year by using all the programs available that's about 100k Hard to convince someone to work when doing nothing pays that well.
I know right, i find it PATHETIC that some of these section 8 tenants cant pay the very low subsidized rent. Hell i know someone at my job that only works 16 hours a week, and i took notice to how she is pretty much paying her rent, its because its because its subsidized so of course working 16 hours is good enough.While i myself have to work two jobs and live with a roommate to just afford the whole market rent.
She's been on section 8 for 20 years???!!!! Why didn't she go to school to better herself???!!! I don't feel bad for her. She's a leach who chose to do nothing with her life.
I don't like seeing people loosing their place. But 20 years on section 8? This is a women who assumed that she will always have section 8 housing. After 20 years, it never dawned on her, that it's time to find a better means of secure housing. She's going to playing this section 8 for the rest of her life.
Have custody of my grandkids ages 1 and 2. Working hard afraid of eviction. Section 8 says they are full nothing for me. I work!!! Guess I got to get a second job. Please help us who really need it.
Sec 8 - really helped me. I was able to keep a roof over my son's head. I was able to work and go to school. I had Sec 8 from 19 yrs old though 27 yrs old. I enjoyed working but some jobs paid too little to consistently afford rent. So I would work 2 P.T. jobs or 1 FT job and go to school. So I was grateful. Also being a young teen parent my hardship was the daycares weren't open on wknds or evenings so it was hard for me to work and go to school. My son was in daycare during the week and I would have to depend on others on wknds and or after daycare hours. In Denver they couldn't miss more than 3 days of daycare per year to get daycare assistance. I never got the cash just daycare and food stamps but once you made over 8$ per hour it could only be daycare and medical, Sec8 is separate. Being in healthcare I landed a job at KP- and worked there 13 yrs but there is no KP in the state I moved to. I did not finish college due to not being able to depend on people - I was told just work- but luckily after high school while still living at home I obtained a medical assistant certificate. My point of telling my business lol is that some one out there will not give up and wait to have more kids. My boys are 10 yrs apart-due to being a teen parent. If you want the best for our kids WAIT!
I rent to a section 8 recipient here in NJ and part of the problem is increasing property taxes.. I have an excellent tenant but NJ taxes go up every year... there are HOA fees, insurance, maintenance/repair costs... I really feel for these people, sometimes us landlords have our hands tied... Wishing her luck in Colorado!
Would you run her out or sell the house to someone who might? This is what keeps happening. HUD is supposed to be paying fair market value, not premium value. It seems landlords think they are entitled to get more for a property if they can without regard to the tenant. If you aren't getting paid enough, you can ask for rent increases with HUD.
So go to work? Yes, it’s that easy. I. California it’s sickening. I was @ the grocery store yesterday and the women in front of me had a Gucci handbag, nails looked good, gorgeous weave, and shopping cart of crab, lobster, hot Cheetos, and more junk food. Then she reached in her wallet and pulled out her EBT card. Yes we paid for her feast. I worked 60 hours a week and budget so I can pay people to eat like kings.
Just go to yalls local housing authority in your home town or a neighboring town and live in their income based apartment u don't need a mf section 8 voucher u may have to move but apply at different housing authority's in different CITIES some have a wait list some don't
