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Language Basics, How to Learn Them 

Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve
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In this video I talk about the basics in a language and how we learn them.
We are often told when starting to learn a new language that we should "start with the basics". Personally I do not find this upfront learning of the so called basics helpful. I need to have had lots of exposure to the language before I can absorb this kind of information.
As always, I look forward to hearing your thoughts and perspectives on this topic in the comments section.

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@Hamminochoe
@Hamminochoe 6 лет назад
I've used your tips for learning languages for years and they work a lot for me. Thank you so much
@7sd957
@7sd957 4 года назад
Yea that s nice. New words every day of our life. Very meaningful!
@oswaldocaminos8431
@oswaldocaminos8431 2 года назад
@@7sd957 it makes a lot of sense. Greetings from the underground!
@TruFlyFox
@TruFlyFox 6 лет назад
I am teaching myself my first foreign language. I have also been studying the techniques of polyglots and other language learners. This video might be one of the most important that I have watched because there is so much truth, at least for me. When I first noticed a specific structure and I look up more info, things become clear and I generally remember it fast better than the times I have attempted to force these ideas into my brain.
@alekmayhew1433
@alekmayhew1433 2 года назад
Have you learned another language now?
@eugeneproff5404
@eugeneproff5404 6 лет назад
When I studied English in school, one of the first words which I learned was "spoon". I don't know why. Maybe because we studied words related with home, kitchen and so forth. When I grew up, and started learning English again, by my own, actually, I can't remember when I counter with the word "spoon". And I was curious why. I downloaded the "word frequency list" and found this word. It was on 5k, 6k, even 7k place, depending on the dictionary. It's not the word that people use a lot in conversation, or in their writings. So why I studied it, at school, at the very beginning? I don't know. Now I don't study lists of words, just only because I "SHOULD TO KNOW them". I study words I counter in my reading, podcasts, or films. I study words what I NEED TO KNOW, not what I SHOULD KNOW
@februaro
@februaro 6 лет назад
+Евгений Лебединский The world has indeed wronged you. I am sorry for your pain.
@futurez12
@futurez12 6 лет назад
Евгений Лебединский If you get an English speaking girlfriend you might find you need that word more than you thought.
@julianwellington3170
@julianwellington3170 4 года назад
i think your using the word "counter" when you mean "encounter"
@tomg268
@tomg268 4 года назад
There is no spoon.
@reireiichi8980
@reireiichi8980 3 года назад
I agree with you. I think you should learn words you need 'right now' instead of later. I remember I made a list of kitchen objects, one of the word was 'kettle' and it was such a weird sounding word at the time, didn't come as a surprise that I forgot it very easily... But eventually ended up learning and memorizing this word with all the times I checked how to say 'kettle' at times I actually needed that word
@jfan3689
@jfan3689 6 лет назад
I would agree with what you said here. My experience learning mandarin was quite strange and different for me. I didn’t understand the basics until I understood the advanced stuff. Then after finally acquiring the basics, I found myself relearning the advanced stuff, then hitting fluency.
@EliteOfTheRad
@EliteOfTheRad 6 лет назад
Julian Same here with Cantonese. I struggled so long because I never felt confident with the basics. I said forget it and moved on to advanced stuff. BAM! Suddenly the basics make sense, and not long after, I found myself speaking quite fluently.
@jfan3689
@jfan3689 6 лет назад
EliteOfTheRad Good Job! That’s the way I think it is for all languages.! It almost just comes with time and getting into the advanced stuff! Congrats with your learning
@EliteOfTheRad
@EliteOfTheRad 6 лет назад
Thanks! And you as well!
@rasakamarauskaite
@rasakamarauskaite 6 лет назад
I think the same is happening to me with Spanish.
@lucasstamper8150
@lucasstamper8150 6 лет назад
That's a very interesting point. Thank you! I'm having difficulties on formulating the sentences and I also ignore the basics. I'll pay extra attention to it.
@vrmartin202
@vrmartin202 Год назад
It‘s so helpful to hear a realistic and honest view of learning a language!
@juanmarcos1145
@juanmarcos1145 3 года назад
It's a pleasure to watch your videos, the way you express yourself, the intonation, the gestures, etc are very engaging and relaxing. In fact, I've noticed myself that when I speak English I tend to imitate your pronounciation and way of speaking. You are like a nice point of reference to imitate
@mounzirr
@mounzirr 5 лет назад
Honestly , clear sound, perfect pronunciation, and expert speaker..... hummmm subscribed and liked for sure ^_^...
@ohwaititsbait
@ohwaititsbait 3 года назад
great video; particularly loved the bit about colours being "basic" I know the japanese vocab for all kinds of computer programming stuff since its my main interest; last week i had to look up "purple". First time I've ever needed it in 3 years of study.
@jamesm.9220
@jamesm.9220 6 лет назад
Interesting! Personally, I LOVE grammar, so learning the "basics" as such - in terms of structure, rules etc. - are often quite fun for me. Another peculiarity is that when I was studying Farsi before, I actually found the writing system to be the easiest part, and it was the first thing I learned, so it's intriguing to me when people talk about the difficulties of certain writing systems (incl. Cyrillic, which for some reason many people tend to talk about as some sort of "hurdle" in learning many slavic languages), when it has been rather intuitive for me in these languages when it comes to my learning style. Nevertheless, in my experience, there are also certain areas of language learning that others have found much easier than I have. For example: one of the reasons I enjoy watching these kinds of videos, is that you can really learn a lot from other people's experiences, and discover new ways to overcome certain obstacles like Vocabulary and Intonation - (which is one of my main difficulties with 日本語 Japanese so far). At the end of the day, it all comes down to the learner really - just as Steve said!
@jamesm.9220
@jamesm.9220 6 лет назад
P.S. one way (possibly the most efficient) that I found for memorising and learning vocabulary in Swedish, was to talk to people online, and to look up words when I don't recognise them. This way, when you go back to read the message (or a certain part of it) again, you're instantly applying your newfound knowledge, and that way the knowledge tends to "stick" more. What experiences has anyone else had when it comes to memorising vocabulary, or other aspects of their language learning, that helped you find a stronger sense of "direction" in your language expiditions? :)
@le-gadp5629
@le-gadp5629 2 года назад
Hello Steve. I am applying this to Russian right now. Lingq, Assimil and a grammar book I’ve just found. I know it takes time but I do love the process. Thank you for your enthusiasm.
@resmatifurlanetto9365
@resmatifurlanetto9365 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your learning process with us Steve. It’s been really inspiring for us who are learning though languages like you’ve been doing with arabic
@veronicawu686
@veronicawu686 6 лет назад
Thanks for confirming my way of teaching myself German! Jump into the water, play, and then go back to the basics. Das finde ich sehr practisch.
@afanasymarinov2236
@afanasymarinov2236 3 года назад
praktisch
@davidloveslearning2606
@davidloveslearning2606 4 года назад
Thanks very informative video! I love your videos :) I'm happy I am fluent in Arabic and English, I am studing Spanish, after Spanish I will study German and French
@knvlchan501
@knvlchan501 4 года назад
I personally admire this man and must admit he’s right about getting exposure of the language. My native language is spanish, and i stared learning english ten years ago but because i didn’t like it and the grammar was so confusing to me, i didn’t learn well. After that, i graduated from high school and for some reason, I get interested in reading, and the best resource was in English so what did i do? Make myself exposed to the language and eventually starting learning without noticing. My vocabulary has increased a lot and must say better than when i was in high school. 10 years ago, i was interested in the asian culture (i still i am) but at that time, i just watched dramas/anime/programs. I did get a lot of passive exposure in korean and japanese, and after a lot of thinking, i decided to learn japanese and korean properly. Surprisingly, my vocabulary has been better than i though. Then I started to learn the basics and the difficul part was the hiragana and katana. I already knew how to read hangul so it wasn’t a big deal. Grammar has been the easiest, because i can recall a lot examples from my previous subconsciously exposure, so getting the tones in my pronunciation and understanding the grammar has ben incredibly amazing for me. I also want to study chinese because recently I’ve been interested in the culture but because i haven’t had to much exposure to that language, my progress has slowed down and sometimes it’s difficult to remember what i’ve been studying. I’m trying to improve that while I’m studying and re-studying my material, but again, my progress is incredibly slowly in comparison with my other two languages. In other words, get exposure from the target language. Get really interested so that it won’t be boring. It will get easier as long as you remain interested in learning.
@howardcheung8304
@howardcheung8304 Год назад
Dude maybe I can give u some motivation for studying Chinese as a HK guy. Chinese is one of the oldest culture that has more than 300 year of history. Most of the eastern philosophy that u see in japan or korean mainly descend from Chinese. Talking the language itself, Chinese is very flexible in the sense sometimes u can skip anything the subject the verb the object. U can also condense a long sentence into short one by dropping some character. Same meaning but vey neat.
@MiguelLopez-rc9gh
@MiguelLopez-rc9gh 6 лет назад
I'm learning Arabic, as a beginner I learned the alphabet and my daily work consists in writing basic words and sentences, using Assimil, old courses of FSI, Memrise. It's a very interesting languange with a beautiful writing system that motivates me to study everyday.
@ismailaboulnaga3624
@ismailaboulnaga3624 6 лет назад
HI Miguel, the Arabic writing system is one of the big difficulties for beginners. Since you found it attractive, it will boost your Arabic learning. I will be happy to hear from you, that you found the pronunciation beautiful as well. I am fond of teaching the Non - Arabic speakers the exact articulation and characteristics of letters. Don't hesitate to contact me if needed.
@PeterFelis
@PeterFelis 6 лет назад
Man, you are so very wright! I though I was wrong, but after your talk it all makes sence
@ZachMikeMoller
@ZachMikeMoller 6 лет назад
Another interesting idea. May I tighten up - as I understand it - what you said about the need for learning words right from the beginning. I would say that we need pattern sentences and useful vocabulary. “Pattern sentence” for me is a term. It is a sentence that shows a particular structure and by the substitution of a word/several words, we can generate other sentences. In English, the sentence “Please pass me the sugar,” could be a pattern sentence. By changing “sugar” to anything that is on the table - the tea, the beans, a napkin and so on - we have a sentence that can be used a lot at the table. In Korean, I started with ordering things using 주세요: 카푸치노 주세요, 따뜻한 아메리카노 주세요 and so on. I went on to acquire a number of other useful words for other transactions. My point is that in addition to individual words, there are a good number of sentences that could be learned at the same time. Right now, I am trying, with the help of my Korean iTalki teacher to acquire what I need to ask questions and understand answers about learning Korean in Korean. I know that you are not a strong supporter of memorizing programs, and I have said that I find them useful. In my case, I have found Nemo Korean very helpful in acquiring a fund of pattern sentences and building blocks for sentences.
@MarkBH70
@MarkBH70 6 лет назад
The Purpose of learning a language is to be able to use it, i.e., speak, and maybe read, etc. Grammar is not the purpose of language-learning. When we speak, we think about what we want to say, perhaps in English; the grammar is instinctual, not studied now. The purpose of language-learning is to speak, etc., not to be a grammar expert.
@femmeNikita27
@femmeNikita27 6 лет назад
Well, everything depends on how strict the focus on grammar and proper syntax is within a language we're learning. If someone is learning French a lot can be forgiven, but if someone like me begins to learn German there is really no way around focusing on correct grammar first. Same with Dutch for example ,as far as I can tell ,after watching some videos made by a native speaker of this language. If a language allows for lots of syntaxtic freedom- like Polish, Russian for example and one can say different things using intonation instead of perfect grammar than yes, grammar doesn't have to be the main purpose of learning. The same with various languages within the same family- one may get away easily with poor knowledge of Cogniutivo in Italian but poor knowledge of Subjuntivo in Spanish can make life and communication in a Spanish-speaking country really difficult.
@road2perfect
@road2perfect 5 лет назад
You are so right Steve! I need to show my Spanish teacher this. The curriculum at college is all about basics (grammar) and it's not teaching me to speak it and yet they expect you to know it.
@ifeelfantastic8956
@ifeelfantastic8956 3 года назад
I can't believe people think Arabic is very hard meanwhile I take it for granted.
@2699030
@2699030 6 лет назад
The Languages is first of all the sound communication; as People/Kids we learn to speak-hear = ei. understand the spoken languages. Most languages even do not have t he script; and all languages did not have it until some time. There were studies that showed that Kids which learned some words first in in Script, have difficulties to speak them properly. That is why starting to learn the languages means forget (for now) about the script etc. and (try to) learn only trout the audio. And to me the best for this is (something like) Pimsleur.
@rasakamarauskaite
@rasakamarauskaite 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot Steve! I do agree with you on this one. I started learning English at a young age school, and I have been living in UK for the last 8 years. I'd say my English is quite fluent, but only now I started to notice and take a deeper look at particular grammar structures, especially the particularities of different tenses. Even though I've revised them a million times at school it did not stick in my head. However, now, as I speak the language well, they make much more sense.
@aleksandrastarosta7032
@aleksandrastarosta7032 6 лет назад
I am happy to hear about U. You are amazing! I study English and do the same :)
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
Glad to hear it and good luck.
@jamesgranger9842
@jamesgranger9842 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for your insights and sharing your learning experiences. Back in the mid 1990s, I tried learning a bit of practical Arabic while assigned to work in Riyadh for a couple of years. I never achieved fluency but did get a small degree of understanding when talking and mostly listening. Never did learn to properly read the script.
@likelyowl
@likelyowl 6 лет назад
Great video, couldn’t agree more! I have recently decided to learn Russian and bought a beginner book, but it didn’t work for me at all and it was a massive discouragement. So now I’m just trying to take it easy, one step at a time.
@jazzyeric21
@jazzyeric21 6 лет назад
This is a really interesting topic yet somewhat contradictory to what Steve has suggested in the past. In the past it was suggested to start with a teach yourself book or similar reference first, then start a system such as LingQ. I did exactly that but did it before I even knew anything about LingQ. In this video Steve points out that the references did not make sense. But, that does not mean that there are no methods out there that can teach the basics very effectively. I want to first say that I am a strong believer in LingQ although I am still in the process of learning my first language (Portuguese) using it. But, what Steve says is so logical and LingQ is so effective that I have faith that I will master the language. But anyway, I started with Michel Thomas. For me it did an incredible job of teaching me the basics in a way that I enjoyed and fully understood. Is it designed to take us to fluency? Absolutely not! But, for me it taught me a lot of grammar in a way that I could remember without reading a single word. Now that I'm using LingQ I find that the more advanced I get the worse the translations are that other people have used on the system before me. What I mean is that, at least in Portuguese, a word not only has a definition but it will also imply who is saying it, the sex of the person involved, and of course the tense. But, on LingQ I see people using translations that simply define the basic definition but lack the other details that I know because I got it from Michel Thomas. I have found that I spend a ton of time improving the translations because it is clear to me that many other learners who came before me did not really understand the grammar. They just went to Google translate and pasted in the basic definition with the rest of the meat missing. In summary, if you can find an effective way to learn the basics first, I think that is the best approach to using LingQ. I'm not here to sell Michel Thomas guys but for me it was awesome for learning the basics. I suggest first finding a way to learn the basics that works for you and after completing that, you only need LingQ.
@emet744
@emet744 6 лет назад
It's interesting, I am learning Hebrew on LingQ, and I also find myself correcting and adding to the definitions on there. I am finding the same situation of inadequate translations from previous members. I'm wondering if it's really worth the time of making the translations "perfect". Perhaps this is a kind of perfectionistic trait that we share, one that actually impedes faster learning. But it's almost impossible to turn off the urge to make the translations more complete.
@musosiimo3199
@musosiimo3199 6 лет назад
I'm going to take a guess and assume that you regard Duolingo/Memrise et al as a huge improvement on how to initiate 'the basics', as these apps use pictures, word banks, video of native speakers and audio to gradually introduce words and characters in new alphabets. I find the 'how would you reply to...?' or 'what did they say?' videos on Memrise particularly helpful as right from the start they're getting you into a common real-life situation where you'd have to know/improvise a response.
@angelafraser1603
@angelafraser1603 3 года назад
Thanks Steve for making these videos. I’m finding it so helpful. Mon français est encore très basique mais je progresse !
@CuriousMind1011
@CuriousMind1011 6 лет назад
I’ll be teaching my first Arabic class in September!
@betavulgaris7888
@betavulgaris7888 6 лет назад
Cool story.
@HuntyzChannel
@HuntyzChannel 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, could you please make a video about mental translation? Do you have this problem when you're starting up a new language? Hope you see it. Thank you.
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
We always translate when we begin. How else can we learn. Then in time we do less of it, I think.
@HuntyzChannel
@HuntyzChannel 6 лет назад
And when you're already in intermediate level or something? Is it still normal to translate?
@rauln9273
@rauln9273 6 лет назад
do you know the mimicmethod ??
@Trefender1
@Trefender1 6 лет назад
I did translate in my head a fair bit when I started learning Japanese, but it stopped after I tried forcing myself to think in Japanese. For a couple of weeks I just worked on describing things to myself in Japanese. My brain started just creating simple Japanese sentences without translation after that. Your native language is a crutch to help with comprehension as you get started, but you can go from the beginning without ever really using it. Stephen Krashen has mentioned in interviews and presentations a few times that he really likes TPRS, and that uses almost no English from the very first lesson. I think that the trick is to make the direct association between the meaning and the real thing without using your native language as a middle-man. I know a few people who have advanced levels in their second language who still translate but the simpler stuff has become automatic; as long as you can shift your understanding from your native language to a direct meaning you should be fine. It might just come slower for some people, but I think that you can push it along a little bit. For me, if I have to translate something than I pause to make a picture of the scene in my head and re-state the sentence to myself. I hope that some of that might be useful to you Lucas. Good luck!
@HuntyzChannel
@HuntyzChannel 6 лет назад
That sounds good. I'm going to try even though I can speak without translating, the problem to me is the word order in English compared to my native language, which make it difficult sometimes to understand some phrases without translation.
@RilaQma
@RilaQma 3 года назад
Thank you for your videos. My native language is Chinese. I need to keep learning English and Japanese. Thanks for the tips .
@forgottenmemories21
@forgottenmemories21 6 лет назад
Yay!!! You are my hero for speaking out against these beginner books ...whether textbooks or not ...they are horribly boring, overwhelming, and therefore useless.
@MarkBH70
@MarkBH70 6 лет назад
I Heart Nihon I agree. "[A]nd therefore useless." I found one that I finally like, but it doesn't focus on the grammar but on the reading.
@Trefender1
@Trefender1 6 лет назад
I tried several different books for Japanese, and after 5 years I found a really good app (Human Japanese) that moved me from beginner to intermediate in a month! What made it work for me was that it was just fun to read. The author rarely discussed grammar; but preferred to make jokes, relate things to the culture, and compare to English to give perspective. I could honestly imagine somebody going through it for fun instead of to learn Japanese. I think there's a fair bit of personal preference with respect to beginner books though. I'm working on mandarin right now, and even with my experience with bad starter books in Japanese I wouldn't be happy if I tried going with Steve's route myself. I feel more comfortable getting an overview before I dive into the language, but I do always skip the exercises. Those suck and do nothing but waste paper!
@cwash08
@cwash08 6 лет назад
thanks for your comment, I'm too bored to get through lesson 3 of Genki. Reading the description and your assessment of Human Japanese, it looks promising.
@chillhomie7
@chillhomie7 6 лет назад
I Heart Nihon I wish someone told me that when I first started learning Japanese. Genki actually sucks, it’s much better to learn grammar through Tae Kim’s guide and start building vocab on lingQ or other easy reading resources.
@syannasylwiaanna7468
@syannasylwiaanna7468 6 лет назад
I generally agree but I think it depends on the person. I've always been this "ok show me how to do things and let me play with it on my own" kind of person. I remember maths classes where our teacher would present a new issue to us and write down the exercises we were supposed to do during the lesson and at home. From that point I wouldn't care about what's going on on the black board AT ALL, I'd just do my exercises and compare them with the key at the end of the book. If I had something wrong I'd try again and only if I had no idea why it's wrong I'd check it with the black board. This is kind of my attitude with languages. Let me learn some basic words and grammar and try to build sentences like "how many sisters do you have?" based on my knowledge so far, without learning them by heart (knowing how to conjugate verbs, how to ask this kind of question, how is sister and how to make plural). I just have to understand what's going on in the sentence. I bought myself a book for French and it's pretty decent but then there are 10 occupations in the lesson one and well I don't need to know how you say these in French (informaticienne is enough for me), there's more interesting stuff to learn. Or right at the beginning of lesson 2 you get numbers 21-63 without having enough practice with 0-20. I get it's about telling your age but does anyone really expect students to memorize them all + the twisted French spelling? You can just learn your age so you can tell it, no need for knowing 59 at the beginning if you're 20. But I guess you guys have similar experiences...
@didoulabete6662
@didoulabete6662 6 лет назад
You made my day Steve!!! Thanks!
@TofuFiesta
@TofuFiesta 6 лет назад
When I started reading easy Japanese News Articles, I noticed all of these unknown interjunctions and now I just quickly look them up in the dictionary. If I can't find out what it means exactly, I probably will on a later day when I have more experience with the language.
@gamzeugur5355
@gamzeugur5355 6 лет назад
Thank you Steve Kaufmann!!! Very helpful!!!
@stpapadop
@stpapadop 6 лет назад
Hello, I am VERY casually, also, trying to learn Arabic and I find the videos/lessons of Imran Alawiye here on RU-vid to be helpful. Perhaps they are not for you as you may have advanced yourself in Arabic, but maybe they'll help a beginner. Could you even consider doing a review of these kind of lessons, in order to listen to an experienced learner's opinion?!
@imadelk5040
@imadelk5040 6 лет назад
Your motivation and diligence are impressing!
@jackwong9007
@jackwong9007 6 лет назад
Thanks , exposure first , noticing comes next.
@thouniverse2950
@thouniverse2950 5 лет назад
am Arabian and let me tell you. arabic grammar subjects are the hardest in college. I pass English grammar with a+ and barely pass Arabic grammar. if i was you ill probably just skip the whole grammar part of the language and focus on other parts. i can explain English grammar to you very well but if you asked me to do that for Arabic gramma i would have problems. and this thing isn't just for me. i study English translation and all of my peers have the same issue. we understand English more than our language.
@mohamedgo9403
@mohamedgo9403 6 лет назад
I told you, and advised you before. Watch the next TV shows, ( you can find them here on RU-vid with HD, They are available by their production company): صقر قريش ربيع قرطبة ملوك الطوائف شهرزاد الحكاية الأخيرة They are in Classical Arabic, it is understood throughout the area, besides that they are enjoyable, especially صقر قريش
@mohamedgo9403
@mohamedgo9403 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--4fDUoAyxMY.html
@xXMoonlightQueridaXx
@xXMoonlightQueridaXx 6 лет назад
I have come to realize that the basics become reinforced as one progresses further. It is after familiarizing your brain clicks and you understand what you struggled with in the beginning. I realized you just have to give yourself time especially if it is your first language you are learning; synaptic plasticity is a hell of a function the brain is ridiculously good at. Time is the solution
@samaval9920
@samaval9920 9 месяцев назад
See Zoe from China & her experiences in learning MSA & Levantine (?) versions. Zoe.languages.
@AceWall73
@AceWall73 6 лет назад
Thanks for your Videos Steve!
@erturtemirbaev5207
@erturtemirbaev5207 6 лет назад
it is nice to watch your videos. Вы молодец!
@prince223681
@prince223681 6 лет назад
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but I personally believe the language learning experience is more or less different for everyone You can totally grasp basics But I don’t think you need ALOOOOT of vocabulary You need a healthy amount of words that are frequently used at least
@GoblinRage472
@GoblinRage472 6 лет назад
Hello Steve, thank you for all the videos you share with us your experiences. One of my struggles is I am learning a Philippino language called Cebuano and it is a mostly spoken language without a lot of reference material. I did manage to find a grammar book which also has an introduction to the language. I understand the sounds and it uses most of the same characters as English, my first language. I have been learning and studying for about 1 year now and I have mostly only been studying vocabulary lists and flashcards on Memrise. My Fiancee is from the Philippines and speaks Cebuano as her first language. I have a hard time getting her to speak to me in Cebuano because she does not like having to explain herself twice. So I really need to figure out how to progress in my language learning with limited resources. I am not finding podcasts to listen to or storybooks to read. I can find some news articles but I do not know enough words to understand what I am reading. Any advice with this challenge would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
Not much I can say. You can't treat your fiancé as a tutor. You may be able to find people online who will create content and transcribe. I doubt we will add this language to LingQ, although if we get enough content we could.
@GoblinRage472
@GoblinRage472 6 лет назад
Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve thank you for your response. I will keep studying and learning. There are lots of Americans that have learned this language and I am determined to keep trying. I have gotten better. So it will just take more time and effort.
@maccaj6565
@maccaj6565 6 лет назад
Completely agreed. I think a lot of the difficulty level re: learning the basics also has to do with how different the language you're learning is from your native language. If the orthography is very different, oftentimes you're not reading at the start, you're *decoding* ... reading (recognizing groups of symbols as words) comes later. If you're a monolingual English speaker, languages with lots of cases start to feel overwhelming quickly, and it's not because it's not possible to learn them, but rather that you're trying to internalise a whole new concept that doesn't *exist* in English... there's no parallel for you to lean on as you familiarise yourself. I struggled massively with the concept of lenition in Irish, because no matter how many times it was explained to me, I couldn't get the concept itself to stick in my head - again, there's no real parallel and it is very much a basic concept in Irish, but it took a *lot* of exposure for my brain to fully accept the fact that it even existed (and what it sounded/looked like)... only then could I comprehend the explanations of why and when it happens.
@liderjustiniano9556
@liderjustiniano9556 5 лет назад
Thanks you.
@godnezha1870
@godnezha1870 4 года назад
Thank you せんせい
@zaisant1502
@zaisant1502 6 лет назад
You are awesome Steve!!☺👍
@Min2d.a
@Min2d.a 6 лет назад
스티브님 전 당신을 존경해요 근데 영어라서 해석을 못해요 한국말로 영상을 올려주시면 감사하겠습니다
@Tehui1974
@Tehui1974 4 года назад
Language learning is an iterative process not a linear process.
@cabezzadevaca4157
@cabezzadevaca4157 6 лет назад
Small letters! I had the same problem with my Assimil for writing mandarin. The characters are small to very small that you can barely register the contours of strokes and they expect you to learn them and be able to write them.
@etienneturgeon
@etienneturgeon 6 лет назад
Agree with you except for japanese, I feel the basic holds me back.
@akeyrtainment8507
@akeyrtainment8507 6 лет назад
I learned arabic since i was in primary school & I am a malay speaking person. I am from Malaysia Learning Arabic is really recommended if someone is a muslim and to understand the holy book of Al-Qoraan, which is all the writings is in arabic.
@mecharenastuff
@mecharenastuff 5 лет назад
I'm taking up a training project in which I have to train and coach non-English speakers (They probably just know the alphabet). My job would be to teach them how to communicate in simple English. On a scale of 1-10, I'd like to take them to a 3 or a 4 in terms of spoken English ability. I'd really appreciate any advice, suggestions or road map on how to get this implemented and executed. I'm also gonna be doing the same for people who are probably a 3 or a 4 in the same scale and take them to a level of say 4 or 5 or 6. Cheers!
@rosebarbaro1969
@rosebarbaro1969 5 лет назад
Thank you Steve so right what you just says, my problem is I can read the short story when am looking at the word. When I red the short story no more than 8 to 10 words need to look up. Without looking I miss a lot Why.?
@tomaslangebaek
@tomaslangebaek 6 лет назад
How do you start reading a text in a complete different language? Do you look up for every word in the dictionary or just read while hearing, hoping for patterns or something to start making sense?
@Trefender1
@Trefender1 6 лет назад
He uses LingQ. It's worth a try if you haven't given it a shot. It wasn't for me personally, but it does follow with current second language acquisition research. I like the feel of a physical book too much myself. If just diving in seems too much to you then maybe find a softer introduction to the language. If you look harder enough you can probably find a book or an app that you like, or you could take a class (TPRS classes are probably the way to go).
@cuentadeyoutube5903
@cuentadeyoutube5903 6 лет назад
Yes, that's what he's not saying explicitly (or too clearly)... what he's doing is following his web app's lessons. He knows the lessons in English so while he listens to/reads the lessons on his target language he kinds of gets it. The app provides a way of making custom annotations, but the app is basically useless if you don't pay for it; and even if you paid for it I used it and it is an UX nightmare. I find his method tempting, but I don't think the product he's selling is really polished. I guess the alternative could be to find interesting reading material and some sort of app that allows you to quickly take notes. What I'm trying at the moment for learning Chinese is using Fluent-Forever method (I bought the book and trainer); but it builds slowly towards fluency (even slower due to the inherent complexity of hanzis). For french, I'm using Duolingo.
@mu8639
@mu8639 6 лет назад
Dear Steve, i want to learn japanese and spain and there are a some good videos on the grammer of both languages. The way i learned arabic was that i built a strong basis of vocabulary (about 500-1000 words), meaningwhile heard much audios and than learnt the grammer in few weeks through videos. I liked this method as i didnt had to struggle with not knowing the used words in the lessons. I want to do the same for japanese and spain: learn both languages at once by building some vocab (500-1000), hearing a lot of stuff and get a feeling for both languages and than studying in short time the grammer. What do you think about this approach? I think its the fastest way to learn a language on once own. Would love to hear your opinion, thanks
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
Sounds good. You may need to stay with the input a little longer, at least that has been my experience.
@sixpackkorkman8069
@sixpackkorkman8069 4 года назад
This guy is so awesome ! ! !
@darraghdonnellan6125
@darraghdonnellan6125 6 лет назад
Steve, may I ask you if you are learning MSA or a specific dialect. I have plans to learn Arabic as my next language and I hope to focus specifically on Levantine Arabic because it is a language that I will have to use a lot in the coming years. I really love using the LingQ system for learning. Could you give me any tips, please? Thank you! :)
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
I am learning MSA right now. We may get different versions of Arabic at LingQ one day but for now it is MSA. I just listen and read and create LingQs.
@Airvian
@Airvian 6 лет назад
Do you think Arabic is the hardest language you’ve tried to learn or do you think some of the first ones like Chinese and Japanese were harder? At that time you didn’t have the experience you do now but even now it seems Arabic is quite the challenge for you.
@marcoenot6677
@marcoenot6677 4 года назад
what book you recomend for basic american english?
@gabrielinacio6331
@gabrielinacio6331 6 лет назад
What do you mean by BASICS?
@Drigger95
@Drigger95 6 лет назад
Which arabic stories do you refer to when you said you listened to them? Thanks!
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
60 Mini-stories at LingQ.
@rehamhessien8951
@rehamhessien8951 6 лет назад
Did the Arabic language is difficult than any other laguages do you learn it before ???
@JornadaDoInvestidor1
@JornadaDoInvestidor1 6 лет назад
Do you star reading or listening? how i can star reading a language like arabic ou japones if i don't know the pronunciation?
@arto1789
@arto1789 6 лет назад
Super! Vous avez tout a fait raison Monsieur Kaufmann!- Pardon, peu importante, mais vous ne regardez pas directement vers la caméra. Moi, je suis convaincu de vôtre méthode.
@vinniskarnak
@vinniskarnak 6 лет назад
After years completely focused in on English, Spanish and Japanese. Today I decided to start studying German throught LingQ. I know 0% of the language... :/
@MsAdaCat
@MsAdaCat 6 лет назад
You know at least 0,001%: Ich Will; Du Riechst So Gut; Du Du hast Du hast mich... :)
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 6 лет назад
Good luck to you!!
@darioj606
@darioj606 6 лет назад
Good luck! I am in a similar situation. Deutsch ist eine schöne Sprache!
@abeldnite
@abeldnite 6 лет назад
You already know some words in German since you speak English. You'll realize that the further you get into the language.
@herr_k69
@herr_k69 4 года назад
Still studying?
@BrentStrathdeePehi
@BrentStrathdeePehi 6 лет назад
I’m learning Indonesian by myself and have reached perhaps a low intermediate level so far without any specific method or system - once I’d learned some basic introduction type phrases then basic grammar/sentence construction, I leapt into a diverse range of activities including; Babbel, listening to songs, RU-vid videos, a little of the Colloquial book (not often) - but the single biggest aid iv found was and remains communicating with native speaking friends both online and in person when I can. I don’t know that it’s any better as a learning system cos it’s not any kind of system at all lol but I remain interested and motivated because my learning is real, realistic and in context. I’m going to Indonesia in July for 3 months so I’ll be immersed- I’m fairly confident I’ll emerge somewhat conversational at least and for me that will be great - I’m not too concerned with being perfect or native-like as long as I can communicate and be understood!
@jamesm.9220
@jamesm.9220 6 лет назад
Also, would anyone be able to give me some studying tips that would minimise the amount of writing done, in order to actually memorise a language's vocabulary and grammar? :)
@femmeNikita27
@femmeNikita27 6 лет назад
Lots of reading. Of materials aimed at native speakers. Online newspapers work just fine. But books and magazines that really interest You could work as well. Sure, You will need to get some basic idea of grammar so that You could recognize the tense or some some structure like passive voice etc. but reading is the best and most painless way of learning grammar and expanding vocabulary. As for vocabulary learning, spaced repetition works well too. I would never learn the word "the beetle" in German while learning basics of this language if it wasn't for a set of words in one spaced repetition system. Plus it makes me memorize the articles well.
@sajjadkhorasani9169
@sajjadkhorasani9169 5 лет назад
What about farsi?
@Thelinguist
@Thelinguist 5 лет назад
What about it? I am trying to learn three languages right now, Arabic, Farsi and Turkish. 3 months at a time on each.
@thierrycattel6793
@thierrycattel6793 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, Thanks for updating us with your progresses in Arabic, it happens i am more or less at the same point as you. I learnt the "basics" 25 years and forgot everything. Coming back from Marrakesh one month ago, this excited me so much that i started again. With this first : Apprenez à LIRE ET PRONONCER L'ARABE / Arabe Reusssite ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GzXN2tQBiVw.html but quickly switched to Assimil, the french version (my mother tongue). I am currently at lesson 28. First I don't get why you bother with the german flavour of Assimil, it exists an english one : fr.assimil.com/methodes/arabic from here fr.assimil.com/ select your mother tongue and the learned language) Second there exists also apparently great ressources here (though expensive ) tresoreducatif.com/ You can have a look at the preview of one of the books here www.amazon.fr/Jardin-Histoires-Bilingues-arabe-fran%C3%A7ais-Niveau/dp/153526862X/ref=la_B01M73O1EG_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522178155&sr=1-1 Unfortunately no digital version... I did not buy of these (yet) but it seems adapted for childrens so the progression is slow and your can get plenty of content to listen here tresoreducatif.com/audio-le-jardin-des-dialogues-bilingues-arabe-francais/ I have discovered Lingq and your blogs and videos 2 or 3 weeks ago (thanks to the Gold list method...) and I attempt to apply your hints to Arabic and German, the latter being a nightmare since I am 14yo, but thanks to reading/listening thru Lingq or with germans songs with Spotify : (Reinhard Mey, Annet Louisan...) I am feeling the progresses ! I do listen repeatedly the Assimil lessons but only marginally the Lingq content for the moment. Hope it helps. Cheers, Thierry Cattel Longevilles Mont D'Or France
@lvzee
@lvzee 4 года назад
Weird to teach language learning techniques based on a language he hasn't yet successfully learned or spoken.
@nicoles_handle
@nicoles_handle 5 лет назад
this reminds me so much of "i've grown accustomed to her face"
@towerdefense428
@towerdefense428 2 года назад
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@janslovak1887
@janslovak1887 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, have you ever met Vladimir Skultety?
@ZhuangzisDream
@ZhuangzisDream 3 года назад
A big part of the reason for this false compartmentalization and laddering of concepts is to make language teachers feel like scholars, keep watching over more difficult concepts students (supposedly) can't understand without them
@parryhotter7036
@parryhotter7036 2 года назад
I still don't know why colors are basics 🤣
@JameBlack
@JameBlack 6 лет назад
first))
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